When dems start to eat each other...
https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.html
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim <tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart looking at her checkered past. They could "
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart looking at her checkered past. They could "
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim <tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt
is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long
she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart looking at her checkered past. They could "
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim <tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt
is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long
she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris.
I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart looking at her checkered past. They could "
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim <tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt
is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long
she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris.
I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change
the perspective" on how badly the war with the Taliban was going?
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to
take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not".
Shades of Vietnam.
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim <tschnautz@gmail.com>
wrote:
When dems start to eat each other...
https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.html
You know what they say about going after the king.
If Biden survives this, and there is no reason to think he won't,
Harris will be lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might even
start looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.
Then it really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of the
crypt and pull the stake out of her heart.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart looking at her checkered past. They could
wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim <tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt
is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long
she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris.
I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change
the perspective" on how badly the war with the Taliban was going?
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to
take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not".
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were
Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before
we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and
other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before
we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck
tie under it.
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives
this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be
lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart
looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it
really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt
is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long
she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller.  ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change
the perspective"Â on how badly the war with the Taliban was going?
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to
take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not".
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were
Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before
we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and
other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before
we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck
tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be
lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart
looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt
is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long
she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller.  ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change
the perspective"Â on how badly the war with the Taliban was going?
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to
take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not".
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were
Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before
we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and
other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before
we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck
tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be
lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart
looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller.  ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>> the perspective"Â on how badly the war with the Taliban was going?
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to
take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were
Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before
we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and
other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before
we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be
working for the Taliban now.
<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s
Carter left there and they are still flying.
On 9/2/2021 1:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>> wrote:> >> On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r>>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Aug
news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>> > The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled> out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.> In fact the stuff we left behind was scatteredwaving at people.>>>>>>>>>> Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this>> source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying>> to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.>>>> Amazing how much BS "news" we get.>>>> <https://
On 9/2/2021 1:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart
looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller.  ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>> the perspective"Â on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to
take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were
Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over
Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be
working for the Taliban now.
<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s
Carter left there and they are still flying.
Greg, I think you are confusing two different weapons/equipment cache's.
The stuff that was at the airport during the "bug out" was the equipment
that was rendered useless. Some images of the helicopters and trucks
were shown this morning. They *are* worthless.
The bulk of the gear, including the 280 something Blackhawks and
vehicles that the Taliban "inherited" in working condition is the
gear that we supplied to the Afghan forces before they gave up the
fight. *That* equipment was not located at the airport and is mostly >operational. There were videos shown recently of the armored trucks
and Humvees being driven in the streets along with the mentioned
flying Blackhawk.
"Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:r0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r>>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Aug
On 9/2/2021 1:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>> wrote:> >> On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -
looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she,no doubt>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.>>>>>>>>>>>> The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris.>>>>>> I doubted it was the
ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were>>>> Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.>>>> I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul>>>> Airport thatthey destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before>>>> we pulled back to the airport.>>>> We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were>>>> flying it
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.>>>> <https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>> > The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled> out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.> Infact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over> Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.> Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts> to keep these things flying for years. The Security
Some images of the helicopters and truckswere shown this morning. They *are* worthless.The bulk of the gear, including the 280 something Blackhawks and vehicles that the Taliban "inherited" in working condition is thegear that we supplied to the Afghanforces before they gave up thefight. *That* equipment was not located at the airport and is mostly operational. There were videos shown recently of the armored trucksand Humvees being driven in the streets along with the mentionedflying Blackhawk.--
If Biden had half a brain he would have destroyed or removed all
US assets of value before walking away from Afghanastan with his
tail between his legs.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:10:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/2/2021 1:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart >>>>>>>>>> looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller.  ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>>> the perspective"Â on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to >>>>>>> take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were >>>>>> Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over
Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be
working for the Taliban now.
<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s
Carter left there and they are still flying.
Greg, I think you are confusing two different weapons/equipment cache's.
The stuff that was at the airport during the "bug out" was the equipment
that was rendered useless. Some images of the helicopters and trucks
were shown this morning. They *are* worthless.
The bulk of the gear, including the 280 something Blackhawks and
vehicles that the Taliban "inherited" in working condition is the
gear that we supplied to the Afghan forces before they gave up the
fight. *That* equipment was not located at the airport and is mostly
operational. There were videos shown recently of the armored trucks
and Humvees being driven in the streets along with the mentioned
flying Blackhawk.
I was simply pointing out how they are portraying it in the news. I
know people who think we destroyed all or at least most of it.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 13:31:19 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:>"Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:r>> On 9/2/2021 1:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>> wrote:> >>On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021
Pelosi.>>>>>>>>>>>> The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris.>>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change>>>>> thepull the stake out of her heart.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be
lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart
looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>> the perspective" on how badly the war with the Taliban was going?
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to
take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were
Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before
we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and
other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before
we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over >Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be
working for the Taliban now.
<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s
Carter left there and they are still flying.
On 9/2/2021 1:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart
looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>> the perspective" on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to
take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were
Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over
Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be
working for the Taliban now.
<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s
Carter left there and they are still flying.
Greg, I think you are confusing two different weapons/equipment cache's.
The stuff that was at the airport during the "bug out" was the equipment
that was rendered useless. Some images of the helicopters and trucks
were shown this morning. They *are* worthless.
The bulk of the gear, including the 280 something Blackhawks and
vehicles that the Taliban "inherited" in working condition is the
gear that we supplied to the Afghan forces before they gave up the
fight. *That* equipment was not located at the airport and is mostly >operational. There were videos shown recently of the armored trucks
and Humvees being driven in the streets along with the mentioned
flying Blackhawk.
On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:15:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart
looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller.  ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>> the perspective"Â on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to
take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were
Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over >>Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be >>working for the Taliban now.
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
Carter left there and they are still flying.
The Pentagon discussed only the equipment left in Kabul airport. Most of the >equipment left for the Taliban was that of the Afghan army.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:10:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> wrote:
On 9/2/2021 1:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart >>>>>>>>>> looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller.  ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>>> the perspective"Â on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to >>>>>>> take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were >>>>>> Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over
Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be
working for the Taliban now.
<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s
Carter left there and they are still flying.
Greg, I think you are confusing two different weapons/equipment cache's.
The stuff that was at the airport during the "bug out" was the equipment >>that was rendered useless. Some images of the helicopters and trucks
were shown this morning. They *are* worthless.
The bulk of the gear, including the 280 something Blackhawks and
vehicles that the Taliban "inherited" in working condition is the
gear that we supplied to the Afghan forces before they gave up the
fight. *That* equipment was not located at the airport and is mostly >>operational. There were videos shown recently of the armored trucks
and Humvees being driven in the streets along with the mentioned
flying Blackhawk.
Yup.
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 06:48:14 -0400, John <salmonbait@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:15:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart >>>>>>>>>> looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>>> the perspective" on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to >>>>>>> take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were >>>>>> Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over >>>Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be >>>working for the Taliban now.
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
Carter left there and they are still flying.
The Pentagon discussed only the equipment left in Kabul airport. Most of the >>equipment left for the Taliban was that of the Afghan army.
Unfortunately that is not how the story was spun. I still have people
telling me we destroyed it all and pointing to the Kabul pictures
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:20:50 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 06:48:14 -0400, John <salmonbait@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:15:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled >>>>out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart >>>>>>>>>>> looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris.
I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller.  ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>>>> the perspective"Â on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to >>>>>>>> take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were >>>>>>> Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul >>>>>>> Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were >>>>>>> flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html> >>>>
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over >>>>Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in. >>>>Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts >>>>to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be >>>>working for the Taliban now.
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s >>>>Carter left there and they are still flying.<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
The Pentagon discussed only the equipment left in Kabul airport. Most of the >>>equipment left for the Taliban was that of the Afghan army.
Unfortunately that is not how the story was spun. I still have people >>telling me we destroyed it all and pointing to the Kabul pictures
There is no way we could have destroyed the equipment held by the Afghan army >with so few soldiers who were confined to the airport and had no time to get out
and destroy equipment.
On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 06:31:52 -0400, John <salmonbait@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:20:50 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 06:48:14 -0400, John <salmonbait@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:15:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled >>>>>out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each >>>>>>>>>>>> other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart >>>>>>>>>>>> looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris.
I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>>>>> the perspective" on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to >>>>>>>>> take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were >>>>>>>> Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul >>>>>>>> Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were >>>>>>>> flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html> >>>>>
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over >>>>>Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in. >>>>>Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts >>>>>to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be >>>>>working for the Taliban now.
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s >>>>>Carter left there and they are still flying.<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
The Pentagon discussed only the equipment left in Kabul airport. Most of the
equipment left for the Taliban was that of the Afghan army.
Unfortunately that is not how the story was spun. I still have people >>>telling me we destroyed it all and pointing to the Kabul pictures
There is no way we could have destroyed the equipment held by the Afghan army >>with so few soldiers who were confined to the airport and had no time to get out
and destroy equipment.
I understand all of that. It is what I have been saying. I am just
pointing out that is not how it is being spun.
On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 12:39:37 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 06:31:52 -0400, John <salmonbait@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:20:50 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 06:48:14 -0400, John <salmonbait@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:15:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled >>>>>>out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe. >>>>>>In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over >>>>>>Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in. >>>>>>Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts >>>>>>to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be >>>>>>working for the Taliban now.
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:rThe story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris.
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each >>>>>>>>>>>>> other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart >>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and
pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi. >>>>>>>>>>>
I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller.  ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>>>>>> the perspective"Â on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to >>>>>>>>>> take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not".
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were >>>>>>>>> Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>>>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul >>>>>>>>> Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>>>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>>>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were >>>>>>>>> flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck
tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html> >>>>>>
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s >>>>>>Carter left there and they are still flying.<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
The Pentagon discussed only the equipment left in Kabul airport. Most of the
equipment left for the Taliban was that of the Afghan army.
Unfortunately that is not how the story was spun. I still have people >>>>telling me we destroyed it all and pointing to the Kabul pictures
There is no way we could have destroyed the equipment held by the Afghan army
with so few soldiers who were confined to the airport and had no time to get out
and destroy equipment.
I understand all of that. It is what I have been saying. I am just
pointing out that is not how it is being spun.
Yeah, there's very little mention of the equipment left by the Afghan army.
On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:15:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart
looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>> the perspective" on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to
take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were
Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over >>Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be >>working for the Taliban now.
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
Carter left there and they are still flying.
The Pentagon discussed only the equipment left in Kabul airport. Most of the >equipment left for the Taliban was that of the Afghan army.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:10:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> wrote:
On 9/2/2021 1:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart >>>>>>>>>> looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris. >>>>>>>> I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>>> the perspective" on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to >>>>>>> take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were >>>>>> Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul
Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were
flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html>
The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over
Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be
working for the Taliban now.
<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s
Carter left there and they are still flying.
Greg, I think you are confusing two different weapons/equipment cache's.
The stuff that was at the airport during the "bug out" was the equipment >>that was rendered useless. Some images of the helicopters and trucks
were shown this morning. They *are* worthless.
The bulk of the gear, including the 280 something Blackhawks and
vehicles that the Taliban "inherited" in working condition is the
gear that we supplied to the Afghan forces before they gave up the
fight. *That* equipment was not located at the airport and is mostly >>operational. There were videos shown recently of the armored trucks
and Humvees being driven in the streets along with the mentioned
flying Blackhawk.
Yup.
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 06:48:40 -0400, John <salmonbait@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:10:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> wrote: >>
On 9/2/2021 1:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each
other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart >>>>>>>>>>> looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris.
I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>>>> the perspective" on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to >>>>>>>> take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were >>>>>>> Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul >>>>>>> Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were >>>>>>> flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html> >>>>
out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over
Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts
to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be
working for the Taliban now.
<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s
Carter left there and they are still flying.
Greg, I think you are confusing two different weapons/equipment cache's.
The stuff that was at the airport during the "bug out" was the equipment >>>that was rendered useless. Some images of the helicopters and trucks >>>were shown this morning. They *are* worthless.
The bulk of the gear, including the 280 something Blackhawks and
vehicles that the Taliban "inherited" in working condition is the
gear that we supplied to the Afghan forces before they gave up the
fight. *That* equipment was not located at the airport and is mostly >>>operational. There were videos shown recently of the armored trucks
and Humvees being driven in the streets along with the mentioned
flying Blackhawk.
Yup.
You're not stupid.
On Tue, 07 Sep 2021 18:56:08 -0700, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 06:48:40 -0400, John <salmonbait@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:10:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> wrote: >>>
On 9/2/2021 1:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:06:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>> wrote:
On 9/2/2021 6:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:The important fact was they had a Blackhawk flying the day we pulled >>>>> out so it wasn't "DeMilled" as the pentagon would have us believe.
On 9/1/2021 7:00 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 9/1/2021 3:10 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:39 -0500 (CDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<tschnautz@gmail.com>wrote:>When dems start to eat each >>>>>>>>>>>> other...>>https://www.stardem.com/news/local_news/harris-wants-biden-to-resign-over-afghanistan-chaos-kabul-attacks/article_c3b0db71-2b41-5c48-be7c-4a5d259f2da1.htmlYou
know what they say about going after the king. If Biden survives >>>>>>>>>>>> this, and there is no reason to think he won't,Harris will be >>>>>>>>>>>> lucky to represent the US at funerals. They might evenstart >>>>>>>>>>>> looking at her checkered past. They could "Agnew" her ass.Then it >>>>>>>>>>>> really gets scary. The Dems might drag Hillary out of thecrypt and >>>>>>>>>>>> pull the stake out of her heart.
That's not the Harris Tim is referring to, although she, no doubt >>>>>>>>>>> is hopeful that she will be queen for a day. Thats about how long >>>>>>>>>>> she will survive under the scrutiny of princess Pelosi.
The story was pulled down so I just had to look at the obvious Harris.
I doubted it was the guy on Barney Miller. ;)
Did you read the Reuters article about Biden asking Ghani to "change >>>>>>>>> the perspective" on how badly the war with the Taliban was going? >>>>>>>>>
This was on July 23rd.
It means that Biden was well aware that the Taliban was going to >>>>>>>>> take over ... well before he claims "it was unexpected".
He asked Ghani to put a positive spin ... "whether it's true or not". >>>>>>>>>
Shades of Vietnam.
I think the ARVN were more motivated than the ASF. I bet there were >>>>>>>> Security Force leaders who were already negotiating surrender before >>>>>>>> we even pulled the combat troops.
I am amused about them showing pictures of the equipment at Kabul >>>>>>>> Airport that they destroyed but no mention of the stuff at Bagram and >>>>>>>> other places in the country that was left, tuned up and fueled before >>>>>>>> we pulled back to the airport.
We know they have at least one manned Blackhawk because they were >>>>>>>> flying it around Kabul with some poor SOB hanging from an Epstein neck >>>>>>>> tie under it.
I don't know if that "hanging" is true or not.
At least one of the major media outlets looked
at zoomed images of that video and reported that
it looked like the guy was in a harness and was
waving at people.
Ok. Seems it *wasn't* a "hanging". According to this
source, it was a guy tethered to the helicopter trying
to put a Taliban flag up on a building or something.
Amazing how much BS "news" we get.
<https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-shows-taliban-225028809.html> >>>>>
In fact the stuff we left behind was scattered across bases all over >>>>> Afghanistan and we had no way of getting to it to destroy in.
Presumably we left enough people on the ground there and enough parts >>>>> to keep these things flying for years. The Security Force seems to be >>>>> working for the Taliban now.
<https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thehulltruth.com-vbulletin/647x443/screen_shot_2021_08_29_at_2_04_59_pm_029fd32304cb2c920b54e534298e2324a5cf34c6.png>
It does remind me of us saying Iran could never maintain the F-14s
Carter left there and they are still flying.
Greg, I think you are confusing two different weapons/equipment cache's. >>>>
The stuff that was at the airport during the "bug out" was the equipment >>>>that was rendered useless. Some images of the helicopters and trucks >>>>were shown this morning. They *are* worthless.
The bulk of the gear, including the 280 something Blackhawks and >>>>vehicles that the Taliban "inherited" in working condition is the
gear that we supplied to the Afghan forces before they gave up the >>>>fight. *That* equipment was not located at the airport and is mostly >>>>operational. There were videos shown recently of the armored trucks >>>>and Humvees being driven in the streets along with the mentioned
flying Blackhawk.
Yup.
You're not stupid.
Yes, you are...
| Sysop: | Keyop |
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| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 371 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 180:19:10 |
| Calls: | 7,918 |
| Calls today: | 3 |
| Files: | 12,989 |
| Messages: | 5,798,182 |
| Posted today: | 1 |
