• Trump wanted to court-martial prominent retired military officers

    From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 18 11:51:04 2022
    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the
    combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in “A Sacred Oath,” had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman
    of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders “jumped to their defense,” Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be
    “extreme and unwarranted.”

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Wed May 18 17:46:26 2022
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the
    combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in A Sacred Oath, had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of
    the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders jumped to their defense, Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be
    extreme and unwarranted.

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.

    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to John H on Wed May 18 17:34:43 2022
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the
    combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in “A Sacred Oath,” had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley,
    chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders “jumped to their defense,” Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action
    would be “extreme and unwarranted.”

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ===

    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The
    second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay
    good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp

    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the
    right thing to do.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Thu May 19 01:11:24 2022
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the
    combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government institutions. >> >
    Trump, Esper recounts in “A Sacred Oath,” had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley,
    chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven
    court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders “jumped to their defense,” Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be “extreme and unwarranted.”

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ===

    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the
    right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
    which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed
    incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp


    Well defined but I have been talking about printing money out of thin
    air since the Bush II administration.
    10-4


    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the
    right thing to do.

    That is why I respect the 4th branch of government to be another check
    on the executive. Checks and balances is how the system chugs along.
    They just need more people checking on the 4th branch.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Thu May 19 06:55:55 2022
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the
    combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government institutions. >> >
    Trump, Esper recounts in A Sacred Oath, had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman
    of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders jumped to their defense, Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be
    extreme and unwarranted.

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ===

    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The
    second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay
    good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp

    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the
    right thing to do.

    That was a stupid idea.

    I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices.

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to John H on Thu May 19 09:55:19 2022
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about
    the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in “A Sacred Oath,” had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley,
    chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders “jumped to their defense,” Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action
    would be “extreme and unwarranted.”

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ===

    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second
    reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good
    dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp

    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the
    right thing to do.
    That was a stupid idea.

    I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices.

    ===

    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its
    probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 19 15:51:16 2022
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:> On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 May
    2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> > > >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired
    military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government
    institutions. > >> > > >> >Trump, Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen.
    Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking
    such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> > > >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> But Joe's perfect: > >> > >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-
    migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> > >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > > > >=== > > > >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation
    of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the right thing to do but it has
    consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > > > >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/
    demandpullinflation.asp > > > >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and
    fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do.> That was a stupid idea. > > I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices.===The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street
    Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, whereas Fox appeals to a more
    gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.

    You have the whole main stream media and most of social media to
    validate and confirm your prejudices. Allow us little white
    folks, and a growing number of hispanics, blacks and others a
    small affirmation of what we believe.
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Thu May 19 21:47:28 2022
    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired
    military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his
    former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the
    latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in
    chief and his attempts to upend government institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in A Sacred Oath, had developed a disdain for
    Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential
    leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump
    informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
    Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven court-martialed, the
    two Pentagon leaders jumped to their defense, Esper writes, arguing
    that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such
    action would be extreme and unwarranted.

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of
    Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/


    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ==
    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at
    work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything.
    That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during
    the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The
    second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own
    quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on
    my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp

    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the
    character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do.


    About the same as the Democrats and Pelosi trying to impeach Trump after he left office. Neither was a good idea. Same as Pelosi keeping house investigating Trump instead of doing what we hired them to do. And the inflation is not from the printing of faux dollars but according to Pelosi
    It is low unemployment and scarce goods. Low unemployment? Only if you change who you count as unemployed. As to us old people on fixed incomes
    and social security. I think we should all go down to the state employment office and sign up for unemployment. We are not employed, not looking for
    jobs just like a large percentage of those collecting unemployment. And
    pays more than social security.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Thu May 19 21:01:45 2022
    On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about
    the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in “A Sacred Oath,” had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley,
    chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven
    court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders “jumped to their defense,” Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be “extreme and unwarranted.”

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ===

    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which
    is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp

    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the
    right thing to do.
    That was a stupid idea.

    I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices.

    ===

    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its
    probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS,
    whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.

    Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gfre...@aol.com on Sat May 21 08:07:23 2022
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about
    the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government
    institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in “A Sacred Oath,” had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley,
    chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven
    court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders “jumped to their defense,” Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be “extreme and unwarranted.”

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ===

    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the
    right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
    which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed
    incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp

    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for
    the right thing to do.
    That was a stupid idea.

    I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices.

    ===

    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its
    probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS,
    whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.
    Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.

    ===

    Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 21 11:31:23 2022
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18
    May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <
    wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and
    disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper recounts
    in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
    Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.
    ? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-
    highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of
    virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has
    consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/
    d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character
    and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that
    Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, >
    whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that
    most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)
    --
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  • From True North@21:1/5 to Justan Ohlphart on Sat May 21 10:04:06 2022
    On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 12:31:25 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed,
    18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <
    wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and
    disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper recounts
    in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
    Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.
    ? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-
    highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of
    virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has
    consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/
    d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character
    and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that
    Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, >
    whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that
    most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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    That's a good thing, Justine.
    Y'all should try it.

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to True North on Sat May 21 13:35:21 2022
    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 12:31:25 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On
    Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in
    office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to
    raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and
    influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to
    their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as
    reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. >
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid
    crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e.,
    demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few
    energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-
    martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought
    the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain
    a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of
    prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I
    Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > how you've changed. :-)> -- > lets go Brandon... > > > ----
    Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlThat's a good thing, Justine.Y'all should try it.

    Enlighten me dummy. How does focussed narrow mindedness lead to
    good change? A constant diet of main stream media tends to make
    you lazy and unable to think on your own.
    Salesmen know this. Unfortunately for you, It's hard to teach an
    old dog new tricks. I hope this was an appropriate response to
    whatever the hell you were thinking when you made that stupid
    remark.
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat May 21 13:30:48 2022
    On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:07:23 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims
    about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government
    institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in “A Sacred Oath,” had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley,
    chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven
    court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders “jumped to their defense,” Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be “extreme and unwarranted.”

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ===

    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the >> right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
    which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed >> incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp

    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for
    the right thing to do.
    That was a stupid idea.

    I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices.

    ===

    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its
    probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS,
    whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.
    Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.

    ===

    Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    Exactly my point so WSJ has to be more subtle in their spin.

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  • From True North@21:1/5 to Justan Ohlphart on Sat May 21 14:06:40 2022
    On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 14:35:22 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 12:31:25 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (
    PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On
    Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in
    office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to
    raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and
    influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to
    their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as
    reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. >
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid
    crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e.,
    demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few
    energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-
    martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought
    the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain
    a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of
    prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I
    Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > how you've changed. :-)> -- > lets go Brandon... > > > ----
    Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlThat's a good thing, Justine.Y'all should try it.
    Enlighten me dummy. How does focussed narrow mindedness lead to
    good change? A constant diet of main stream media tends to make
    you lazy and unable to think on your own.
    Salesmen know this. Unfortunately for you, It's hard to teach an
    old dog new tricks. I hope this was an appropriate response to
    whatever the hell you were thinking when you made that stupid
    remark.
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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    SNERK!
    Sure looks like I touched a nerve there, Justine.
    What do y'all say..."bang on"?

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to True North on Sat May 21 22:54:59 2022
    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 14:35:22 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 12:31:25 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r>
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com
    wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On
    Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, >>>> 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
    <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at >>>> 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04
    -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged
    behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump
    wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for
    their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary
    Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to
    raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts
    to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper
    recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley
    McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders
    who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed
    Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
    of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two
    Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that >>>> both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such
    action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >>
    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of
    Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's
    perfect: > >> >> >
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/
    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden.
    There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price
    inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the
    expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to
    keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT.
    In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has
    consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too
    many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull
    inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course
    the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are
    options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks
    which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans
    regardless. > >> > > >>
    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp >
    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about
    Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who
    were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we
    had people like Esper and Milley with the character and
    fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >>
    That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the
    party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > >
    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find
    it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street
    Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the
    WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective
    outlook on the world. I think its probably because the
    WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing
    BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market
    looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of
    prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their
    target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ
    readership is a great deal more rational than the
    average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I Imagine there are
    many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from
    time to time. Your point of view interferes with > your
    rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it.
    My, > how you've changed. :-)> -- > lets go Brandon... >
    ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlThat's
    a good thing, Justine.Y'all should try it.
    Enlighten me dummy. How does focussed narrow mindedness lead to
    good change? A constant diet of main stream media tends to make
    you lazy and unable to think on your own.
    Salesmen know this. Unfortunately for you, It's hard to teach an
    old dog new tricks. I hope this was an appropriate response to
    whatever the hell you were thinking when you made that stupid
    remark.
    --
    lets go Brandon...


    ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html


    SNERK!
    Sure looks like I touched a nerve there, Justine.
    What do y'all say..."bang on"?


    Weird statement from someone who gets their guidance from Dr. Phil and Dr.
    Oz.

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to True North on Sat May 21 20:08:53 2022
    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 14:35:22 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 12:31:25 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in
    message:r> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >>
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@
    hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived
    slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the
    Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme
    and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-
    u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price
    inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it
    has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/
    d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character
    and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that
    Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, >
    whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that
    most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > your rationalization, but
    you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > how you've changed. :-)> -- > lets go Brandon... > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlThat's a good thing, Justine.Y'all should try it.> Enlighten me
    dummy. How does focussed narrow mindedness lead to > good change? A constant diet of main stream media tends to make > you lazy and unable to think on your own. > Salesmen know this. Unfortunately for you, It's hard to teach an > old dog new tricks. I
    hope this was an appropriate response to > whatever the hell you were thinking when you made that stupid > remark.> -- > lets go Brandon... > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlSNERK!Sure
    looks like I touched a nerve there, Justine.What do y'all say..."ba

    bang on?
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to me@yourservice.com on Sat May 21 20:36:55 2022
    On Sat, 21 May 2022 20:08:53 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
    <me@yourservice.com> wrote:

    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 14:35:22 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 12:31:25 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in
    message:r> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >>
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@
    hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for
    their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >
    Trump, Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley,
    chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action
    would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >>
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There
    are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In
    fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the
    Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my
    boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership?
    Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The
    party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably
    because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their
    target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch
    Tucker > Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > how you've changed. :-)> -- > lets go Brandon... > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-
    west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlThat's a good thing, Justine.Y'all should try it.> Enlighten me dummy. How does focussed narrow mindedness lead to > good change? A constant diet of main stream media tends to make > you lazy and unable to think on
    your own. > Salesmen know this. Unfortunately for you, It's hard to teach an > old dog new tricks. I hope this was an appropriate response to > whatever the hell you were thinking when you made that stupid > remark.> -- > lets go Brandon... > >
    ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlSNERK!Sure looks like I touched a nerve there, Justine.What do y'all say..."bang on"?

    bang on?

    That is a UK thing
    He can't remember the difference between the Brits or the US.
    Don, that is the queen on your $20, not Eleanor Roosevelt.

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  • From Alex@21:1/5 to Bill on Sun May 22 00:15:22 2022
    Bill wrote:
    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

    SNERK!
    Sure looks like I touched a nerve there, Justine.
    What do y'all say..."bang on"?

    Weird statement from someone who gets their guidance from Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz.


    And salespeople, of course!

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Sun May 22 09:17:42 2022
    gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Sat, 21 May 2022 20:08:53 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart<me@yourservice.com> wrote:>True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 14:35:22 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in
    message:r> > On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 12:31:25 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19
    -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in
    office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for>their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to
    raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and
    influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to
    their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as
    reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >>>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. >
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid
    crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e.,
    demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few
    energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my>boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-
    martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought
    the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain
    a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of
    prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their>target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I
    Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > how you've changed. :-)> -- > lets go Brandon... > > > ----
    Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlThat's a good thing, Justine.Y'all should try it.> Enlighten me dummy. How does focussed narrow mindedness lead to > good change? A constant diet of main stream
    media tends to make > you lazy and unable to think on your own. > Salesmen know this. Unfortunately for you, It's hard to teach an > old dog new tricks. I hope this was an appropriate response to > whatever the hell you were thinking when you made that
    stupid > remark.> -- > lets go Brandon... > >>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---

    I wish that little fool would learn to speak the language.
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to Alex on Sun May 22 16:35:11 2022
    Alex <Xela777@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bill wrote:
    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

    SNERK!
    Sure looks like I touched a nerve there, Justine.
    What do y'all say..."bang on"?

    Weird statement from someone who gets their guidance from Dr. Phil and Dr. >> Oz.


    And salespeople, of course!


    Isn’t that what Dr. Oz is?

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to Bill on Sun May 22 12:51:06 2022
    Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Alex <Xela777@gmail.com> wrote:> Bill wrote:>> True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:>>> >>> SNERK!>>> Sure looks like I touched a nerve there, Justine.>>> What do y'all say..."bang on"?>>> >> Weird statement from someone who gets their guidance
    from Dr. Phil and Dr.>> Oz.>> > > And salespeople, of course!> Isn?t that what Dr. Oz is?

    Dr Oz is a heart surgeon. Dr. Phil is just a PHD
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to me@yourservice.com on Sun May 22 17:08:13 2022
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 12:51:06 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
    <me@yourservice.com> wrote:

    Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Alex <Xela777@gmail.com> wrote:> Bill wrote:>> True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:>>> >>> SNERK!>>> Sure looks like I touched a nerve there, Justine.>>> What do y'all say..."bang on"?>>> >> Weird statement from someone who gets their guidance
    from Dr. Phil and Dr.>> Oz.>> > > And salespeople, of course!> Isn?t that what Dr. Oz is?

    Dr Oz is a heart surgeon. Dr. Phil is just a PHD

    They are both quacks.

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Mon May 23 02:35:18 2022
    <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 12:51:06 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart <me@yourservice.com> wrote:

    Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Alex <Xela777@gmail.com> wrote:> Bill wrote:>> True North
    <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:>>> >>> SNERK!>>> Sure looks like I
    touched a nerve there, Justine.>>> What do y'all say..."bang on"?>>> >>
    Weird statement from someone who gets their guidance from Dr. Phil and
    And salespeople, of course!> Isn?t that what Dr. Oz is?

    Dr Oz is a heart surgeon. Dr. Phil is just a PHD

    They are both quacks.


    I see Dr. Oz on lots of advertisements, not related to hearts, or even
    medical.

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Justan Ohlphart on Sun May 22 23:13:12 2022
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed,
    18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <
    wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and
    disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper recounts
    in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
    Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.
    ? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-
    highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of
    virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has
    consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/
    d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character
    and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that
    Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, >
    whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that
    most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-
    abortion movement.

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Bill on Sun May 22 23:02:19 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 10:35:21 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
    <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 12:51:06 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart <m...@yourservice.com> wrote:

    Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Alex <Xel...@gmail.com> wrote:> Bill wrote:>> True North
    <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:>>> >>> SNERK!>>> Sure looks like I
    touched a nerve there, Justine.>>> What do y'all say..."bang on"?>>> >> >>> Weird statement from someone who gets their guidance from Dr. Phil and >>> Dr.>> Oz.>> > > And salespeople, of course!> Isn?t that what Dr. Oz is? >>
    Dr Oz is a heart surgeon. Dr. Phil is just a PHD

    They are both quacks.

    I see Dr. Oz on lots of advertisements, not related to hearts, or even medical.

    ===

    I think he's for sale to the highest bidder.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon May 23 09:16:08 2022
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed,
    18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <
    wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and
    disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the
    Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme
    and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-
    u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is
    overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing
    to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing
    some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.
    com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker?
    I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less
    prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a
    good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-
    abortion movement.

    I agree.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon May 23 09:22:21 2022
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed,
    18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <
    wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and
    disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the
    Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme
    and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-
    u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is
    overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing
    to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing
    some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.
    com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker?
    I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less
    prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a
    good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-
    abortion movement.

    It is also possible to not particularly like Trump without saying he
    was always wrong.
    You have a hard time finding any policy decision from Biden that was
    good but he is a kinder gentler guy. Unfortunately we are not
    selecting our favorite uncle. we are trying to pick the one best for
    our future.
    That is not a nuclear war, runaway inflation or shutting down our
    ability to produce reliable energy supplies.

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 23 09:41:57 2022
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (
    PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On
    Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in
    office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to
    raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and
    influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to
    their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as
    reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. >
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid
    crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e.,
    demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few
    energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-
    martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought
    the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain
    a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of
    prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I
    Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > how you've changed. :-)===What change is that? It's entirely
    possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-abortion movement.

    I don't recall you being a hater in the past. That's what changed.
    Hate has displaced common sense and good judgement. Explain this.
    When a pregnant woman is murdered, the acused is charged with two
    homicides. When an abortion is done there is no victim. "It's
    just a fetus". Why is the ultimate crime charged in one case and
    no charges were brought in the second.Both homicides were
    committed intentionally. Tucker is an entertainer. No need to
    call bullshit on his performance. Just don't watch. I suggest, if
    you want to see fair and honest news reporting, tune into Fox
    News at 6PM weekdays.
    lets go Brandon...
    Trump ran his mouth much of the time. That's Trump. Aside from
    that minor flaw, he was the most attentive and action oriented
    president I can remember.He accomplished much, all the while
    being attacked by Nancy and her flock of vultures,


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  • From True North@21:1/5 to Justan Ohlphart on Mon May 23 06:48:47 2022
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:42:00 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -
    0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in
    office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to
    raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and
    influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to
    their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as
    reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. >
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid
    crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e.,
    demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few
    energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-
    martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought
    the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain
    a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of
    prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I
    Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > how you've changed. :-)===What change is that? It's entirely
    possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-abortion movement.

    I don't recall you being a hater in the past. That's what changed.
    Hate has displaced common sense and good judgement. Explain this.
    When a pregnant woman is murdered, the acused is charged with two
    homicides. When an abortion is done there is no victim. "It's
    just a fetus". Why is the ultimate crime charged in one case and
    no charges were brought in the second.Both homicides were
    committed intentionally. Tucker is an entertainer. No need to
    call bullshit on his performance. Just don't watch. I suggest, if
    you want to see fair and honest news reporting, tune into Fox
    News at 6PM weekdays.
    lets go Brandon...
    Trump ran his mouth much of the time. That's Trump. Aside from
    that minor flaw, he was the most attentive and action oriented
    president I can remember.He accomplished much, all the while
    being attacked by Nancy and her flock of vultures,
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    Boy...did y'all ever guzzle the KoolAid!
    I don't recall y'all being so anal retentive.

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  • From justan@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Mon May 23 13:53:33 2022
    On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed,
    18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
    <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and
    disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the
    Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme
    and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-
    u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is
    overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing
    to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing
    some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.
    com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker?
    I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less
    prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a
    good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-
    abortion movement.

    I agree.
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more
    passionately partisan than he believes.

    --
    Lets go Brandon..

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to justan on Mon May 23 12:37:35 2022
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On
    Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.
    com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights
    and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the
    Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme
    and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-
    u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is
    overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right
    thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is
    causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.
    investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and
    Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute
    and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-
    abortion movement.

    I agree.
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more passionately partisan than he believes.


    ===

    Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a better fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods about the 2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive attacks on anyone who refused to support his baseless
    allegations. This was, and is, a full on attack of our constitution and democratic institutions. It is vitally important that everyone become aware of just how serious that is, and that no amount of favorable policy decisions/actions can make up for it.
    It is also vitally important that he never holds public office again.

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 23 16:15:58 2022
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT), > >"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:
    25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: > >>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > >>> Wrote in message:r > >>> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@
    hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18,
    2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >>
    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the
    combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, > >>Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who,
    in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper
    writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington
    Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >>
    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is > >>overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The
    second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good
    dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who
    were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper > >>and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and
    other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on
    the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just
    saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict. > >>> > >>> I Imagine there are many WSJ
    addicts that also watch Tucker > >>> Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > >>> your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > >>> how you've changed. :-) > >> > >>=== > >> > >>What change is that? It's
    entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-abortion movement. > > > >I agree.>
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more > passionately partisan than he believes. > ===Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a better fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods
    about the 2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive

    Suit yourself. Go ahead and worry about what Trump says. If I'm
    angst about anything it's the dire state the country is in. And
    no, it's not Trumps fault. Do you watch Fox news at
    all?

    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Justan Ohlphart on Mon May 23 14:30:18 2022
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 4:16:03 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT), > >"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:
    25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: > >>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > >>> Wrote in message:r > >>> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@
    hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18,
    2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >>
    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the
    combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, > >>Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who,
    in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper
    writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington
    Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >>
    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is > >>overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The
    second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good
    dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who
    were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper > >>and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and
    other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on
    the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just
    saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict. > >>> > >>> I Imagine there are many WSJ
    addicts that also watch Tucker > >>> Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > >>> your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > >>> how you've changed. :-) > >> > >>=== > >> > >>What change is that? It's
    entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-abortion movement. > > > >I agree.>
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more > passionately partisan than he believes. > ===Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a better fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods
    about the 2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive attacks on anyone who refused to support his baseless allegations. This was, and is, a full on attack of our constitution and democratic institutions. It is vitally important that everyone
    become aware of just how serious that is, and that no amount of favorable policy decisions/actions can make up for it. It is also vitally important that he never holds public office again.

    Suit yourself. Go ahead and worry about what Trump says. If I'm
    angst about anything it's the dire state the country is in. And
    no, it's not Trumps fault. Do you watch Fox news at
    all?
    --

    ===

    Why would I want to watch Fox News when there are so many other news sources that come without the political hyperbole? I actually prefer to read the news instead of watching it unless it's a story best told with visual media, and there aren't that many.
    Tornadoes and other natural disasters come readily to mind, as well as some of the Ukraine war coverage. Reuters, the Associated Press, the Wall Street Journal and the BBC are all good sources with relatively little political bias. And I'm not
    convinced the country is in such dire straits that we need a dictator to fix things. At one time or another we've faced all of the same issues, and worse, that are out there today. Am I happy with Biden's leadership or lack thereof? Not at all, but he
    was the lessor of two evils and we'll survive while he muddles through.

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon May 23 23:24:49 2022
    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com
    wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On
    Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On
    Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 >>>>>> at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022
    11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
    <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example >>>>>> of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >>
    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent
    retired military officers for their perceived slights and
    disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a >>>>>>> new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the
    combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > >>>>>>> institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley >>>> McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders
    who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed
    Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
    of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two
    Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that >>>> both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such
    action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >>
    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of
    Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's
    perfect: > >> >> >
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/
    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden.
    There are two root causes at work. The first is >>>> overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly
    because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid
    crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero,
    DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has
    consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many
    dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The
    second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion
    of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. >>>> As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I
    own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut
    back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >>
    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >>>>> >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting >>>>>>>> to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership?
    Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right
    thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've
    bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > >
    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it
    interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned >>>>> by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a
    fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because
    the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, >
    whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for
    entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of
    them are just saying what their target audience wants to
    hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that >>>>> most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the
    average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some
    conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull
    shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative
    causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-abortion movement. >>>
    I agree.
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more
    passionately partisan than he believes.


    ==
    Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a better
    fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods about the 2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive attacks on anyone who refused to support his baseless allegations. This was, and is, a full on attack of our constitution and democratic institutions. It is vitally important that everyone become aware of just how serious that is, and
    that no amount of favorable policy decisions/actions can make up for it.
    It is also vitally important that he never holds public office again.


    There is a huge basis for Trumps claims. The same claims have been swept
    under the carpet for years. Why is it wrong to ask for ID when voting?
    Why is it wrong to verify someone actually is a citizen and is alive when
    they vote? JFK and a lot of others have had lots of votes from dead
    people. Why is it wrong to question more votes from a jurisdiction than
    there are people living there.

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to True North on Mon May 23 23:24:49 2022
    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:42:00 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r>
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com
    wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On
    Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, >>>> 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
    <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at >>>> 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04
    -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged
    behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump
    wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for
    their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary
    Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to
    raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts
    to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper
    recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley
    McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders
    who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed
    Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
    of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two
    Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that >>>> both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such
    action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >>
    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of
    Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's
    perfect: > >> >> >
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/
    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden.
    There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price
    inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the
    expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to
    keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT.
    In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has
    consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too
    many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull
    inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course
    the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are
    options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks
    which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans
    regardless. > >> > > >>
    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp >
    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about
    Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who
    were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we
    had people like Esper and Milley with the character and
    fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >>
    That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the
    party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > >
    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find
    it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street
    Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the
    WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective
    outlook on the world. I think its probably because the
    WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing
    BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market
    looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of
    prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their
    target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ
    readership is a great deal more rational than the
    average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I Imagine there are
    many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from
    time to time. Your point of view interferes with > your
    rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it.
    My, > how you've changed. :-)===What change is that?
    It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative
    causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull
    shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some
    conservative causes without embracing the terribly
    misguided anti-abortion movement.

    I don't recall you being a hater in the past. That's what changed.
    Hate has displaced common sense and good judgement. Explain this.
    When a pregnant woman is murdered, the acused is charged with two
    homicides. When an abortion is done there is no victim. "It's
    just a fetus". Why is the ultimate crime charged in one case and
    no charges were brought in the second.Both homicides were
    committed intentionally. Tucker is an entertainer. No need to
    call bullshit on his performance. Just don't watch. I suggest, if
    you want to see fair and honest news reporting, tune into Fox
    News at 6PM weekdays.
    lets go Brandon...
    Trump ran his mouth much of the time. That's Trump. Aside from
    that minor flaw, he was the most attentive and action oriented
    president I can remember.He accomplished much, all the while
    being attacked by Nancy and her flock of vultures,
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    Boy...did y'all ever guzzle the KoolAid!
    I don't recall y'all being so anal retentive.


    You have guzzled the kook-aid Blanco, You think Trump did nothing correct.
    As President, he was probably the best one we have had for at least 50
    years. Not saying he is not personally an asshole, but he did a hell of a
    lot correctly as POTUS.

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  • From justan@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 23 19:24:47 2022
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com Am I
    happy with Biden's leadership or lack thereof? Not at all, but
    he was the lessor of two evils and we'll survive while he muddles
    through.

    Who thinks either one of them is evil? Who thinks we are better
    off now than we were two years ago? Who can guarentee we will
    survive while "he muddles through"? I'm not even confident he can
    make it to the end of his term. He isn't far from being a
    vegatable now.

    --
    Lets go Brandon....


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  • From True North@21:1/5 to Bill on Mon May 23 17:28:29 2022
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 20:24:51 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:42:00 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> >>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r> >>> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com
    wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On
    Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, >>>> 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
    <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at >>>> 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 >>>> -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged
    behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump
    wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for
    their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary >>>> Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to
    raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts >>>> to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper
    recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley
    McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders
    who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed
    Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, >>>> of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two >>>> Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that >>>> both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such
    action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >>
    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of
    Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's
    perfect: > >> >> >
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/
    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden.
    There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price
    inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the
    expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to
    keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT.
    In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has
    consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too
    many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull
    inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course
    the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are
    options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks
    which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans
    regardless. > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp >
    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about
    Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who
    were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we
    had people like Esper and Milley with the character and
    fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >>
    That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the
    party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > >
    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find
    it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street
    Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the
    WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective
    outlook on the world. I think its probably because the
    WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing
    BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market
    looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of
    prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their
    target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ
    readership is a great deal more rational than the
    average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I Imagine there are
    many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from
    time to time. Your point of view interferes with > your
    rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it.
    My, > how you've changed. :-)===What change is that?
    It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative
    causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull
    shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some
    conservative causes without embracing the terribly
    misguided anti-abortion movement.

    I don't recall you being a hater in the past. That's what changed.
    Hate has displaced common sense and good judgement. Explain this.
    When a pregnant woman is murdered, the acused is charged with two
    homicides. When an abortion is done there is no victim. "It's
    just a fetus". Why is the ultimate crime charged in one case and
    no charges were brought in the second.Both homicides were
    committed intentionally. Tucker is an entertainer. No need to
    call bullshit on his performance. Just don't watch. I suggest, if
    you want to see fair and honest news reporting, tune into Fox
    News at 6PM weekdays.
    lets go Brandon...
    Trump ran his mouth much of the time. That's Trump. Aside from
    that minor flaw, he was the most attentive and action oriented
    president I can remember.He accomplished much, all the while
    being attacked by Nancy and her flock of vultures,
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    Boy...did y'all ever guzzle the KoolAid!
    I don't recall y'all being so anal retentive.

    You have guzzled the kook-aid Blanco, You think Trump did nothing correct.
    As President, he was probably the best one we have had for at least 50
    years. Not saying he is not personally an asshole, but he did a hell of a
    lot correctly as POTUS.


    I think you'd better pour yourself another stiff drink, Swill. The withdrawal symptoms are showing.

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to True North on Tue May 24 01:03:17 2022
    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 20:24:51 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:42:00 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> >>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r> >>>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com
    wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On
    Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, >>>>>> 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
    <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at >>>>>> 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 >>>>>> -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged
    behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump >>>>>> wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for >>>>>> their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary >>>>>> Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to >>>>>> raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts >>>>>> to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper >>>>>> recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley
    McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders >>>>>> who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed
    Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, >>>>>> of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two >>>>>> Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that >>>>>> both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such >>>>>> action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >>
    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of >>>>>>> Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's
    perfect: > >> >> >
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over
    the weekend. Thanks, Joe.
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden.
    There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price
    inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of
    the
    expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to
    keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT.

    In fairness, it was probably the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > right thing to do but it has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of
    too
    many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull
    inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course
    the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes
    are
    options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy
    stocks
    which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans
    regardless. > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp >

    Back to the original >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic, how do you feel about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals
    who
    were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad
    we
    had people like Esper and Milley with the character and

    fortitude to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stand up for the right thing to do. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought
    the
    party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > >

    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I
    find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street
    Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the
    WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective
    outlook on the world. I think its probably because the

    WSJ audience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is more astute and less prone to swallowing
    BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass
    market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation
    of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their
    target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the
    WSJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readership is a great deal more rational than the
    average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I Imagine there are

    many WSJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from
    time to time. Your point of view interferes with >
    your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it.

    My, > how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you've changed. :-)===What change is that?
    It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative
    causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull
    shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some
    conservative causes without embracing the terribly
    misguided anti-abortion movement.

    I don't recall you being a hater in the past. That's what changed.
    Hate has displaced common sense and good judgement. Explain this.
    When a pregnant woman is murdered, the acused is charged with two
    homicides. When an abortion is done there is no victim. "It's
    just a fetus". Why is the ultimate crime charged in one case and
    no charges were brought in the second.Both homicides were
    committed intentionally. Tucker is an entertainer. No need to
    call bullshit on his performance. Just don't watch. I suggest, if
    you want to see fair and honest news reporting, tune into Fox
    News at 6PM weekdays.
    lets go Brandon...
    Trump ran his mouth much of the time. That's Trump. Aside from
    that minor flaw, he was the most attentive and action oriented
    president I can remember.He accomplished much, all the while
    being attacked by Nancy and her flock of vultures,
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    Boy...did y'all ever guzzle the KoolAid!
    I don't recall y'all being so anal retentive.

    You have guzzled the kook-aid Blanco, You think Trump did nothing correct. >> As President, he was probably the best one we have had for at least 50
    years. Not saying he is not personally an asshole, but he did a hell of a
    lot correctly as POTUS.


    I think you'd better pour yourself another stiff drink, Swill. The
    withdrawal symptoms are showing.


    Another stupid response. I guess when you are as dumb as you appear to be,
    it is inevitable to get such a response from you. What did he do wrong as POTUS?

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  • From True North@21:1/5 to Bill on Mon May 23 19:55:50 2022
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 22:03:19 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 20:24:51 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:42:00 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> >>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r> >>>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com
    wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On >>>>>> Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, >>>>>> 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at >>>>>> 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 >>>>>> -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged
    behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump >>>>>> wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for >>>>>> their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary >>>>>> Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to >>>>>> raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts >>>>>> to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper >>>>>> recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley >>>>>> McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders >>>>>> who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed >>>>>> Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, >>>>>> of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two >>>>>> Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that >>>>>> both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such >>>>>> action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >>
    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of >>>>>>> Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's >>>>>>> perfect: > >> >> >
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over
    the weekend. Thanks, Joe.
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden.
    There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price
    inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of
    the
    expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to
    keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT.

    In fairness, it was probably the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > right thing to do but it has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of
    too
    many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull
    inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course
    the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes
    are
    options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy
    stocks
    which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans
    regardless. > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp >

    Back to the original >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic, how do you feel about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals
    who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad
    we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had people like Esper and Milley with the character and

    fortitude to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stand up for the right thing to do. > >>
    That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought
    the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > >
    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I
    find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street
    Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the
    WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective
    outlook on the world. I think its probably because the

    WSJ audience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is more astute and less prone to swallowing
    BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass
    market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation
    of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their
    target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the
    WSJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readership is a great deal more rational than the
    average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I Imagine there are

    many WSJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from
    time to time. Your point of view interferes with >
    your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it.

    My, > how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you've changed. :-)===What change is that?
    It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative
    causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull
    shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some
    conservative causes without embracing the terribly
    misguided anti-abortion movement.

    I don't recall you being a hater in the past. That's what changed.
    Hate has displaced common sense and good judgement. Explain this.
    When a pregnant woman is murdered, the acused is charged with two
    homicides. When an abortion is done there is no victim. "It's
    just a fetus". Why is the ultimate crime charged in one case and
    no charges were brought in the second.Both homicides were
    committed intentionally. Tucker is an entertainer. No need to
    call bullshit on his performance. Just don't watch. I suggest, if
    you want to see fair and honest news reporting, tune into Fox
    News at 6PM weekdays.
    lets go Brandon...
    Trump ran his mouth much of the time. That's Trump. Aside from
    that minor flaw, he was the most attentive and action oriented
    president I can remember.He accomplished much, all the while
    being attacked by Nancy and her flock of vultures,
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    Boy...did y'all ever guzzle the KoolAid!
    I don't recall y'all being so anal retentive.

    You have guzzled the kook-aid Blanco, You think Trump did nothing correct. >> As President, he was probably the best one we have had for at least 50
    years. Not saying he is not personally an asshole, but he did a hell of a >> lot correctly as POTUS.


    I think you'd better pour yourself another stiff drink, Swill. The withdrawal symptoms are showing.

    Another stupid response. I guess when you are as dumb as you appear to be,
    it is inevitable to get such a response from you. What did he do wrong as POTUS?


    Well Billy Goat....
    He brought out the worst in the worst 'mericans.
    Ample proof of that right here in this group

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to True North on Tue May 24 04:01:43 2022
    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 22:03:19 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 20:24:51 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:42:00 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> >>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com >>>>>>>> wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On >>>>>>>> Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, >>>>>>>> 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at >>>>>>>> 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 >>>>>>>> -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged >>>>>>>> behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump >>>>>>>> wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for >>>>>>>> their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary >>>>>>>> Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to >>>>>>>> raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts >>>>>>>> to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, Esper >>>>>>>> recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley >>>>>>>> McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders >>>>>>>> who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed >>>>>>>> Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, >>>>>>>> of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two >>>>>>>> Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that >>>>>>>> both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such >>>>>>>> action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >>
    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of >>>>>>>>> Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's >>>>>>>>> perfect: > >> >> >
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/


    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over
    the weekend. Thanks, Joe.
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden.
    There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price

    inflation of virtually >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything. That is mostly because of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis
    to
    keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero,
    DJT.

    In fairness, it was probably the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right thing to do but it has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of
    too
    many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull
    inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of
    course
    the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major
    disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes

    are
    options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy
    stocks
    which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating
    plans
    regardless. > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp


    Back to the original >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic, how do you feel about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals
    who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad

    we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had people like Esper and Milley with the character
    and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    fortitude to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stand up for the right thing to do. > >>
    That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought

    the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== >
    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I
    find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street
    Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but
    the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective
    outlook on the world. I think its probably because
    the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSJ audience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is more astute and less prone to swallowing
    BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass
    market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking for entertainment and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> validation/confirmation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their
    target >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the
    WSJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readership is a great deal more rational than the
    average Tucker Carlson addict. > > I Imagine there
    are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many WSJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addicts that also watch Tucker > Carlson from
    time to time. Your point of view interferes with >
    your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of
    it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My, > how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you've changed. :-)===What change is that?
    It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative
    causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson
    bull >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some
    conservative causes without embracing the terribly
    misguided anti-abortion movement. >>>>>>
    I don't recall you being a hater in the past. That's what changed. >>>>>> Hate has displaced common sense and good judgement. Explain this.
    When a pregnant woman is murdered, the acused is charged with two
    homicides. When an abortion is done there is no victim. "It's
    just a fetus". Why is the ultimate crime charged in one case and
    no charges were brought in the second.Both homicides were
    committed intentionally. Tucker is an entertainer. No need to
    call bullshit on his performance. Just don't watch. I suggest, if
    you want to see fair and honest news reporting, tune into Fox
    News at 6PM weekdays.
    lets go Brandon...
    Trump ran his mouth much of the time. That's Trump. Aside from
    that minor flaw, he was the most attentive and action oriented
    president I can remember.He accomplished much, all the while
    being attacked by Nancy and her flock of vultures,
    ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html


    Boy...did y'all ever guzzle the KoolAid!
    I don't recall y'all being so anal retentive.

    You have guzzled the kook-aid Blanco, You think Trump did nothing correct. >>>> As President, he was probably the best one we have had for at least 50 >>>> years. Not saying he is not personally an asshole, but he did a hell of a >>>> lot correctly as POTUS.


    I think you'd better pour yourself another stiff drink, Swill. The
    withdrawal symptoms are showing.

    Another stupid response. I guess when you are as dumb as you appear to be, >> it is inevitable to get such a response from you. What did he do wrong as
    POTUS?


    Well Billy Goat....
    He brought out the worst in the worst 'mericans.
    Ample proof of that right here in this group


    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Tue May 24 02:46:44 2022
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 12:37:35 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On
    Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.
    com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights
    and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >>
    Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of
    the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?
    extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-
    arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is
    overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right
    thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is
    causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.
    investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like
    Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and
    Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute
    and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-
    abortion movement.

    I agree.
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more
    passionately partisan than he believes.


    ===

    Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a better fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods about the 2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive attacks on anyone who refused to support his baseless
    allegations. This was, and is, a full on attack of our constitution and democratic institutions. It is vitally important that everyone become aware of just how serious that is, and that no amount of favorable policy decisions/actions can make up for it.
    It is also vitally important that he never holds public office again.

    We are finally starting to hear about the illegal shenanigans the
    Clinton team used in 2016 in the Sussman trial. I doubt she goes to
    jail but just like Whitewater some of her friends might. The problem
    is they ran out the clock on the statute of limitations on most of it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to princecraft49@gmail.com on Tue May 24 02:50:32 2022
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 19:55:50 -0700 (PDT), True North
    <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

    ..
    He <Trump>brought out the worst in the worst 'mericans.
    Ample proof of that right here in this group

    Biden brought out the worst in Putin and got a war started.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Richard Grew@21:1/5 to Bill on Mon May 23 23:50:18 2022
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 7:24:51 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
    waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com
    wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On >>>>>> Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On >>>>>> Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 >>>>>> at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022
    11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
    <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example >>>>>> of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >>
    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent
    retired military officers for their perceived slights and
    disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a >>>>>>> new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the >>>>>>> combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > >>>>>>> institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley >>>> McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders
    who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed
    Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, >>>> of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two >>>> Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that >>>> both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such
    action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >>
    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of
    Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's
    perfect: > >> >> >
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/
    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden.
    There are two root causes at work. The first is >>>> overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly
    because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid
    crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, >>>> DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has >>>> consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many >>>> dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The
    second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion >>>> of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. >>>> As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I >>>> own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut
    back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >>
    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >>>>> >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting >>>>>>>> to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership?
    Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right >>>> thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've
    bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > >
    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it
    interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned >>>>> by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a
    fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because >>>>> the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > >>>>> whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for
    entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of
    them are just saying what their target audience wants to
    hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that >>>>> most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the
    average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some
    conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull
    shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative
    causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-abortion movement. >>>
    I agree.
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more >> passionately partisan than he believes.


    ==
    Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a better
    fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods about the 2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive attacks on anyone who refused to support his baseless allegations. This was, and is, a full on attack of our constitution and democratic institutions. It is vitally important that everyone become aware of just how serious that is, and
    that no amount of favorable policy decisions/actions can make up for it.
    It is also vitally important that he never holds public office again.

    There is a huge basis for Trumps claims. The same claims have been swept under the carpet for years. Why is it wrong to ask for ID when voting?
    Why is it wrong to verify someone actually is a citizen and is alive when they vote? JFK and a lot of others have had lots of votes from dead
    people. Why is it wrong to question more votes from a jurisdiction than
    there are people living there.

    Funny how the dead always seem to vote democrat.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to Mr. Luddite on Tue May 24 11:10:26 2022
    "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 5/24/2022 2:46 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:> On Mon, 23 May 2022 12:37:35 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:> >> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:>>> On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...
    @aol.com wrote:>>>> On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.
    Wrote in message:r>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM
    UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), >
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers
    for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> >
    Trump,>>>>> Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A.
    Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such
    action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/
    immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work.
    The first is>>>>> overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably
    the > right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
    which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://
    www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like>> Esper>>
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and
    Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute
    and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.>>>>>>>>>>>> I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker>>>>>> Carlson from time to time. Your point
    of view interferes with>>>>>> your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,>>>>>> how you've changed. :-)>>>>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>>>> What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or
    Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-abortion movement.>>>>>>>> I agree.>>> I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more>>>
    passionately partisan than he believes.>>>>>>> ===>>>> Hate

    Between the Hillery and Hunter investigations a lot of light will
    be shown on the nowadays Democratic corruption and influence
    peddling. Prepare for a lot of righteous indignation being
    displayed by hundreds of players in this disgusting circus.
    Follow the money and the truth be told. Pass the popcorn.







    p
    --
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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to Richard Grew on Tue May 24 11:13:00 2022
    Richard Grew <rgrew176@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 7:24:51 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:> waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: > >> On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >>> On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:
    13:12 -0700 (PDT), > >>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: > >>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > >>>>> Wrote in message:r > >>
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com > >>>>>> wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> > >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On > >>>>>> Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4,
    John H wrote: > >> On > >>>>>> Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" > >>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 > >>>>>> at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 > >>
    11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" > >>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example > >>>>>> of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> > >>>>>> >President Donald Trump wanted to
    court-martial two prominent > >>>>>>> retired military officers for their perceived slights and > >>>>>>> disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a > >>>>>>> new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the > >>>>>>
    combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > > >>>>>>> institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, > >>>> Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley > >>>> McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and
    influential leaders > >>>> who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed > >>>> Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, > >>>> of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two > >>>>
    Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that > >>>> both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such > >>>> action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> > >>>> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's
    recent book, the former Secretary of > >>>>> Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's > >>>>> perfect: > >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >>>>>>>>>
    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two root causes at work. The first is >
    overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly > >>>> because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid > >>>> crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, > >>>> DJT. In fairness, it was
    probably the > right thing to do but it has > >>>> consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many > >>>> dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The > >>>> second reason for high fuel prices is of course the
    Russian invasion > >>>> of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. > >>>> As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I > >>>> own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut > >>>>
    back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> > >>>> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > > >>>>> >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting > >>>>>>>> to court-martial retired army generals
    who were critical of his leadership? > >>>>>>>> Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper > >>>> and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right > >>>> thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've > >>>>
    bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > > >>>> >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it > >>>>> interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned > >>>>> by the Murdoch family, but the
    WSJ is somehow able to maintain a > >>>>> fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because > >>>>> the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > > >>>>> whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking
    for > >>>>> entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of > >>>>> them are just saying what their target audience wants to > >>>>> hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that > >>>>> most of the WSJ readership
    is a great deal more rational than the > >>>>> average Tucker Carlson addict. > >>>>> > >>>>> I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > >>>>> Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > >>>>> your rationalization,
    but you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > >>

    Thats because there are more deadheads in the Democrat party than
    any other place on earth.
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  • From 3452471@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gfre...@aol.com on Tue May 24 09:12:32 2022
    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 2:50:46 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 19:55:50 -0700 (PDT), True North
    <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:

    ..
    He <Trump>brought out the worst in the worst 'mericans.
    Ample proof of that right here in this group
    Biden brought out the worst in Putin and got a war started.

    And now his dementia-addled brain has pissed of the Chinese. So while we are circling the possibility of war with the Soviets, Biden wants us to square off on China as well?

    Biden is *the* clear and present danger to our democracy.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon May 30 16:34:21 2022
    On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about
    the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in A Sacred Oath, had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley,
    chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders jumped to their defense, Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action
    would be extreme and unwarranted.

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ===

    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second
    reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good
    dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp

    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the
    right thing to do.
    That was a stupid idea.

    I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices.

    ===

    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its
    probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.

    The party line according to Biden.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Mon May 30 16:35:08 2022
    On Thu, 19 May 2022 21:47:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired
    military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his
    former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the
    latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in >>>> chief and his attempts to upend government institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in A Sacred Oath, had developed a disdain for
    Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential
    leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump
    informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of >>>> Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven court-martialed, the
    two Pentagon leaders jumped to their defense, Esper writes, arguing
    that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such >>>> action would be extreme and unwarranted.

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of
    Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/


    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ==
    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at
    work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything.
    That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during
    the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your
    hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the right thing to do but it has
    consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many
    dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The
    second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of
    Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As
    retirees on fixed incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own
    quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on
    my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp

    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to
    court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership?
    Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the
    character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do.


    About the same as the Democrats and Pelosi trying to impeach Trump after he >left office. Neither was a good idea. Same as Pelosi keeping house >investigating Trump instead of doing what we hired them to do. And the >inflation is not from the printing of faux dollars but according to Pelosi
    It is low unemployment and scarce goods. Low unemployment? Only if you >change who you count as unemployed. As to us old people on fixed incomes
    and social security. I think we should all go down to the state employment >office and sign up for unemployment. We are not employed, not looking for >jobs just like a large percentage of those collecting unemployment. And
    pays more than social security.

    Yup. Funny Wayne didn't compare the two.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Mon May 30 16:37:59 2022
    On Sat, 21 May 2022 22:54:59 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 14:35:22 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 12:31:25 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> ne.Y'all should try it.
    Enlighten me dummy. How does focussed narrow mindedness lead to
    good change? A constant diet of main stream media tends to make
    you lazy and unable to think on your own.
    Salesmen know this. Unfortunately for you, It's hard to teach an
    old dog new tricks. I hope this was an appropriate response to
    whatever the hell you were thinking when you made that stupid
    remark.
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    SNERK!
    Sure looks like I touched a nerve there, Justine.
    What do y'all say..."bang on"?


    Weird statement from someone who gets their guidance from Dr. Phil and Dr. >Oz.

    LOL! But so true!

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon May 30 16:40:40 2022
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed,
    18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <
    wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and
    disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the
    Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme
    and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-
    u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is
    overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing
    to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing
    some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.
    com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker?
    I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less
    prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a
    good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-
    abortion movement.

    That's not a baby kicking, dear, it's just a f'ing fetus!

    Pro-choice means pro-death. Just let a pro-lifer be seen at an
    abortion rally!

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon May 30 16:36:45 2022
    On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:07:23 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims
    about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government
    institutions.

    Trump, Esper recounts in A Sacred Oath, had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley,
    chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven
    court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders jumped to their defense, Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be extreme and unwarranted.

    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post.
    But Joe's perfect:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/

    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.

    ===

    I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy
    afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the >> right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
    which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed >> incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp

    Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for
    the right thing to do.
    That was a stupid idea.

    I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices.

    ===

    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its
    probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS,
    whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.
    Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.

    ===

    Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    You're the second liberal who's come down on Tucker Carlson. What does
    he do/say that is so intriguing to you folks? I've never watched him.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon May 30 16:41:57 2022
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 12:37:35 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On
    Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.
    com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights
    and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >>
    Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of
    the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?
    extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-
    arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is
    overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right
    thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is
    causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.
    investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like
    Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and
    Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute
    and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-
    abortion movement.

    I agree.
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more
    passionately partisan than he believes.


    ===

    Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a better fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods about the 2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive attacks on anyone who refused to support his baseless
    allegations. This was, and is, a full on attack of our constitution and democratic institutions. It is vitally important that everyone become aware of just how serious that is, and that no amount of favorable policy decisions/actions can make up for it.
    It is also vitally important that he never holds public office again.

    And most folks with sense pay little attention to him. But I see
    you're still wrapped around his ass.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon May 30 16:44:21 2022
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 14:30:18 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 4:16:03 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:> On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT), > >"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:
    31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: > >>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > >>> Wrote in message:r > >>> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...
    @hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18,
    2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office:

    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise
    claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump, > >>Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and
    influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to
    their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence,
    as
    reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is > >>overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid
    crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e.,
    demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own
    quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting
    to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper > >>and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see
    you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow
    able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and
    validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average
    Tucker Carlson addict. > >>> > >>> I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker > >>> Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with > >>> your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My, > >>> how you've
    changed. :-) > >> > >>=== > >> > >>What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing
    the terribly misguided anti-abortion movement. > > > >I agree.> I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more > passionately partisan than he believes. > ===Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a
    better fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods about the 2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive attacks on anyone who refused to support his baseless allegations. This was, and is, a full on attack of our constitution
    and democratic institutions. It is vitally important that everyone become aware of just how serious that is, and that no amount of favorable policy decisions/actions can make up for it. It is also vitally important that he never holds public office again.

    Suit yourself. Go ahead and worry about what Trump says. If I'm
    angst about anything it's the dire state the country is in. And
    no, it's not Trumps fault. Do you watch Fox news at
    all?
    --

    ===

    Why would I want to watch Fox News when there are so many other news sources that come without the political hyperbole? I actually prefer to read the news instead of watching it unless it's a story best told with visual media, and there aren't that
    many. Tornadoes and other natural disasters come readily to mind, as well as some of the Ukraine war coverage. Reuters, the Associated Press, the Wall Street Journal and the BBC are all good sources with relatively little political bias. And I'm not
    convinced the country is in such dire straits that we need a dictator to fix things. At one time or another we've faced all of the same issues, and worse, that are out there today. Am I happy with Biden's leadership or lack thereof? Not at all, but he
    was the lessor of two evils and we'll survive while he muddles through.

    When was the last time any of you 'news sources' reported on the
    border problem? They just skip over it, as they do with anything else
    that reflects badly on your boy.

    You are right about Reuters and the AP, but they tend to leave out the
    border issue also. I suppose someone is paying them to keep mum.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John H@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Mon May 30 16:45:51 2022
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 23:24:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com
    wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),>
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On >>>>>>> Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On >>>>>>> Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 >>>>>>> at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022
    11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
    <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example >>>>>>> of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >>
    President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent
    retired military officers for their perceived slights and
    disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a >>>>>>>> new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the >>>>>>>> combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > >>>>>>>> institutions. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley >>>>> McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders
    who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed
    Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, >>>>> of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two >>>>> Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that >>>>> both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such
    action would be ?extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >>
    Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of
    Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's
    perfect: > >> >> >
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/
    Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe.
    === > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden.
    There are two root causes at work. The first is >>>>> overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly
    because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid
    crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, >>>>> DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right thing to do but it has >>>>> consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many >>>>> dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The
    second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion >>>>> of Ukraine, which is causing some major disruptions to energy markets. >>>>> As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I >>>>> own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut
    back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >>
    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >>>>>> >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting >>>>>>>>> to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership?
    Personally, I'm glad we had people like Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right >>>>> thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've
    bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > >
    The party line according to Faux News and Tucker? I find it
    interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned >>>>>> by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a
    fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because >>>>>> the WSJ audience is more astute and less prone to swallowing BS, > >>>>>> whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for
    entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of
    them are just saying what their target audience wants to
    hear.===Perhaps, but I think there's a good argument to be made that >>>>>> most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the
    average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some
    conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull
    shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative
    causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-abortion movement. >>>>
    I agree.
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more >>> passionately partisan than he believes.


    ==
    Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a better
    fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods about the
    2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive attacks on anyone who
    refused to support his baseless allegations. This was, and is, a full on
    attack of our constitution and democratic institutions. It is vitally
    important that everyone become aware of just how serious that is, and
    that no amount of favorable policy decisions/actions can make up for it.
    It is also vitally important that he never holds public office again.


    There is a huge basis for Trumps claims. The same claims have been swept >under the carpet for years. Why is it wrong to ask for ID when voting?
    Why is it wrong to verify someone actually is a citizen and is alive when >they vote? JFK and a lot of others have had lots of votes from dead
    people. Why is it wrong to question more votes from a jurisdiction than >there are people living there.

    Watch Wayne skip over those questions also. We have another Harry in
    the making.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John H@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Mon May 30 16:46:56 2022
    On Tue, 24 May 2022 02:46:44 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Mon, 23 May 2022 12:37:35 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >>> >>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On
    Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.
    com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights
    and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >>
    Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of
    the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?
    extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-
    arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is
    overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right
    thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is
    causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.
    investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like
    Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and
    Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute
    and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-
    abortion movement.

    I agree.
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more >>> passionately partisan than he believes.


    ===

    Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a better fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods about the 2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive attacks on anyone who refused to support his baseless
    allegations. This was, and is, a full on attack of our constitution and democratic institutions. It is vitally important that everyone become aware of just how serious that is, and that no amount of favorable policy decisions/actions can make up for it.
    It is also vitally important that he never holds public office again.

    We are finally starting to hear about the illegal shenanigans the
    Clinton team used in 2016 in the Sussman trial. I doubt she goes to
    jail but just like Whitewater some of her friends might. The problem
    is they ran out the clock on the statute of limitations on most of it.


    You aren't hearing much about them on CNN, that's for damn sure!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John H@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 30 16:47:56 2022
    On Tue, 24 May 2022 07:10:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2022 2:46 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 12:37:35 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    On 5/23/22 9:16 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 22 May 2022 23:13:12 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT),> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> On
    Wed, 18 May 2022 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT), > >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT), > >> >> "waynebatr...@hotmail.
    com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yet another example of Trump's unhinged behavior while in office: > >> >> > > >> >> >President Donald Trump wanted to court-martial two prominent retired military officers for their perceived slights
    and disloyalty, his former defense secretary Mark T. Esper alleges in a new book, the latest insider account to raise claims about the combative commander in chief and his attempts to upend government > institutions. > >> >> > > >> >>
    Trump,
    Esper recounts in ?A Sacred Oath,? had developed a disdain for Stanley McChrystal and William H. McRaven, popular and influential leaders who, in retirement, criticized the president. When Trump informed Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of
    the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of his wish to see McChrystal and McRaven > court-martialed, the two Pentagon leaders ?jumped to their defense,? Esper writes, arguing that both completed distinguished military careers and that taking such action would be ?
    extreme and unwarranted.? > >> >> > > >> >> >Excerpted from Mark Esper's recent book, the former Secretary of Defence, as reported by the Washington Post. > >> >> But Joe's perfect: > >> >> > >> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-march-migrant-
    arrivals-u-s-border-highest-since-2000/ > >> >> > >> >> Priced diesel lately? I paid $6/gal over the weekend. Thanks, Joe. > >> > > >> >=== > >> > > >> >I'm well aware but I don't blame Biden. There are two root causes at work. The first is
    overall price inflation of virtually everything. That is mostly because of the expansive money printing instituted during the Covid crisis to keep the economy afloat, a policy championed by your hero, DJT. In fairness, it was probably the > right
    thing to do but it has consequences which we are seeing now. It's a classic case of too many dollars chasing too few resources, i.e., demand-pull inflation. The second reason for high fuel prices is of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is
    causing some major disruptions to energy markets. As retirees on fixed > incomes are options are limited. Fortunately I own quite a few energy stocks which pay good dividends but I've cut back on my boating plans regardless. > >> > > >> >https://www.
    investopedia.com/terms/d/demandpullinflation.asp > >> > > >> >Back to the original topic, how do you feel about Trump wanting to court-martial retired army generals who were critical of his leadership? Personally, I'm glad we had people like
    Esper
    and Milley with the character and fortitude to stand up for the right thing to do. > >> That was a stupid idea. > >> > >> I see you've bought the party line about fuel and other prices. > > > >=== > > > >The party line according to Faux News and
    Tucker? I find it interesting that Faux News and the Wall Street Journal are both owned by the Murdoch family, but the WSJ is somehow able to maintain a fairly objective outlook on the world. I think its probably because the WSJ audience is more astute
    and less prone to swallowing BS, > whereas Fox appeals to a more gullible mass market looking for entertainment and validation/confirmation of prejudices.> Both of them are just saying what their target audience wants to hear.===Perhaps, but I think
    there's a good argument to be made that most of the WSJ readership is a great deal more rational than the average Tucker Carlson addict.

    I Imagine there are many WSJ addicts that also watch Tucker
    Carlson from time to time. Your point of view interferes with
    your rationalization, but you don't seem to be aware of it. My,
    how you've changed. :-)

    ===

    What change is that? It's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing Trump or Tucker Carlson bull shit, just as it's entirely possible to embrace some conservative causes without embracing the terribly misguided anti-
    abortion movement.

    I agree.
    I agree with the concept but without all the hate. I think Wayne is more >>>> passionately partisan than he believes.


    ===

    Hate is not the right word. Disgust and serious concern are a better fit. Trump made, and continues to make, a series of falsehoods about the 2020 election. And he continues to make vindictive attacks on anyone who refused to support his baseless
    allegations. This was, and is, a full on attack of our constitution and democratic institutions. It is vitally important that everyone become aware of just how serious that is, and that no amount of favorable policy decisions/actions can make up for it.
    It is also vitally important that he never holds public office again.


    We are finally starting to hear about the illegal shenanigans the
    Clinton team used in 2016 in the Sussman trial. I doubt she goes to
    jail but just like Whitewater some of her friends might. The problem
    is they ran out the clock on the statute of limitations on most of it.


    Hillary is arguably the most corrupt, dishonest and deceitful politician
    (and person) of this century. The Sussman trial and revelations aren't >getting wide coverage (never speak evil of a Clinton) but the facts are >coming out not due to journalistic bias, but due to direct testimony
    by Robby Mook, Hillary's campaign manager.

    Imagine Sussman's defense attorney's reaction when Mook, called by them >(defense}, admitted that the alleged "secret" Trump connection to the
    Russian bank had been found to be completely false by the FBI but
    Hillary still approved that the false story be released to the media
    anyway, paying a rumored $100 million to support the bullshit story
    via a law firm that hired Christopher Steele to create a fictitious,
    damaging story, calling it "opposition research".

    That, in itself, is illegal.

    Greg, you're right. She'll never be charged. The Clintons wear
    Teflon suits. But she makes her husband look like a saint.

    I'm surprised Wayne hasn't jumped in to her defense.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John H@21:1/5 to princecraft49@gmail.com on Mon May 30 16:50:37 2022
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 19:55:50 -0700 (PDT), True North
    <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 22:03:19 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 20:24:51 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:42:00 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
    Wrote in mess
    snippage
    I think you'd better pour yourself another stiff drink, Swill. The
    withdrawal symptoms are showing.

    Another stupid response. I guess when you are as dumb as you appear to be, >> it is inevitable to get such a response from you. What did he do wrong as
    POTUS?


    Well Billy Goat....
    He brought out the worst in the worst 'mericans.
    Ample proof of that right here in this group

    Another non-answer. Taking lessons from Wayne now?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John H@21:1/5 to 3452471@gmail.com on Mon May 30 16:52:23 2022
    On Tue, 24 May 2022 09:12:32 -0700 (PDT), "345...@gmail.com" <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 2:50:46 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 19:55:50 -0700 (PDT), True North
    <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:

    ..
    He <Trump>brought out the worst in the worst 'mericans.
    Ample proof of that right here in this group
    Biden brought out the worst in Putin and got a war started.

    And now his dementia-addled brain has pissed of the Chinese. So while we are circling the possibility of war with the Soviets, Biden wants us to square off on China as well?

    Biden is *the* clear and present danger to our democracy.

    Absolutely. This bit of news is very scary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar5n-IPqpNI&ab_channel=TechMilitary

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to John H on Mon May 30 18:02:01 2022
    John H <jherring@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 19:55:50 -0700 (PDT), True North<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:>On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 22:03:19 UTC-3, Bill wrote:>> True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 20:24:51 UTC-3, Bill wrote: >> >> True
    North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:42:00 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >> >>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> >>>> Wrote in messsnippage>> > I think you'd better pour yourself another stiff drink,
    Swill. The >> > withdrawal symptoms are showing. >> >>> Another stupid response. I guess when you are as dumb as you appear to be, >> it is inevitable to get such a response from you. What did he do wrong as >> POTUS?>>>Well Billy Goat....>He brought out
    the worst in the worst 'mericans.>Ample proof of that right here in this groupAnother non-answer. Taking lessons from Wayne now?

    Wayne Donnie and Fat Harry are three peas in a pod. And to think
    Fat Harry used to call him Whine. Maybe he was right.
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  • From John H@21:1/5 to me@yourservice.com on Tue May 31 07:09:06 2022
    On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:02:01 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
    <me@yourservice.com> wrote:

    John H <jherring@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 23 May 2022 19:55:50 -0700 (PDT), True North<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:>On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 22:03:19 UTC-3, Bill wrote:>> True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 20:24:51 UTC-3, Bill wrote: >> >> True
    North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:42:00 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >> >>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> >>>> Wrote in messsnippage>> > I think you'd better pour yourself another stiff drink,
    Swill. The >> > withdrawal symptoms are showing. >> >>> Another stupid response. I guess when you are as dumb as you appear to be, >> it is inevitable to get such a response from you. What did he do wrong as >> POTUS?>>>Well Billy Goat....>He brought out
    the worst in the worst 'mericans.>Ample proof of that right here in this groupAnother non-answer. Taking lessons from Wayne now?

    Wayne Donnie and Fat Harry are three peas in a pod. And to think
    Fat Harry used to call him Whine. Maybe he was right.

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