I'm trying to set up the open source "Silent Notes" Android app,
which says it shares to online WebDAV servers, to share to a LOCAL
WebDAV server.
Apparently Windows already has a local WebDAV server built in so I
looked up how to set that up with self-signed certificates for
encryption.
Do you have a Server edition of Windows? As I recall, WebDAV was
bundled with IIS. I don't remember the WebDAV server bundled with IIS
for non-Server (client) editions of Windows.
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/end-of-microsoft-support-for-its-webclient-service-on-windows-10-and-11/174121
Looks like WebDAV is dying.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/deprecated-features https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV#WebDAV_clients
SilentNotes mentions support for FTP.
You'll need an FTP server (not a
client). SilentNotes would be the FTP client. FileZilla Server (https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?type=server) looks to be
free. Others may suggest different free FTP servers.
While the app's Play Store page says "Currently supported protocols are
the FTP protocol, ...", it doesn't say if FTPs or sFTP are supported. However, also mentioned is end-to-end encryption, so the data
transferred via FTP can be encrypted. That still leaves unmentioned how
to pass the login credentials to the FTP server if FTPs or sFTP are not supported.
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 19:30:03 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
Do you have a Server edition of Windows? As I recall, WebDAV was
bundled with IIS. I don't remember the WebDAV server bundled with IIS
for non-Server (client) editions of Windows.
Every Windows version since XP has a webdav server built into its iis. https://www.sevenforums.com/software/419824-there-any-free-webdav-server-programs-out-there.html
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/end-of-microsoft-support-for-its-webclient-service-on-windows-10-and-11/174121
Looks like WebDAV is dying.
Webdav is alive and well. https://medium.odrive.com/how-to-easily-setup-a-webdav-server-on-windows-and-sync-to-it-8469b9259435
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/deprecated-features
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV#WebDAV_clients
A client is different than a server.
SilentNotes mentions support for FTP.
SilentNotes supports webdav too.
https://www.martinstoeckli.ch/silentnotes/
"Currently supported are the FTP protocol, the WebDav protocol,
Dropbox, Google-Drive and One-Drive."
You'll need an FTP server (not a
client). SilentNotes would be the FTP client. FileZilla Server
(https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?type=server) looks to be
free. Others may suggest different free FTP servers.
Besides FTP not being webdav, Silent Notes supports webdav.
https://github.com/martinstoeckli/SilentNotes
"Currently supported are the FTP protocol, the WebDav protocol, Dropbox, Google-Drive and One-Drive."
While the app's Play Store page says "Currently supported protocols are
the FTP protocol, ...", it doesn't say if FTPs or sFTP are supported.
However, also mentioned is end-to-end encryption, so the data
transferred via FTP can be encrypted. That still leaves unmentioned how
to pass the login credentials to the FTP server if FTPs or sFTP are not
supported.
FTP isn't webdav. A client isn't a server. Silent Notes supports webdav.
Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 19:30:03 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
Do you have a Server edition of Windows? As I recall, WebDAV was
bundled with IIS. I don't remember the WebDAV server bundled with IIS
for non-Server (client) editions of Windows.
Every Windows version since XP has a webdav server built into its iis.
https://www.sevenforums.com/software/419824-there-any-free-webdav-server-programs-out-there.html
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/end-of-microsoft-support-for-its-webclient-service-on-windows-10-and-11/174121
Looks like WebDAV is dying.
Webdav is alive and well.
https://medium.odrive.com/how-to-easily-setup-a-webdav-server-on-windows-and-sync-to-it-8469b9259435
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/deprecated-features
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV#WebDAV_clients
A client is different than a server.
SilentNotes mentions support for FTP.
SilentNotes supports webdav too.
https://www.martinstoeckli.ch/silentnotes/
"Currently supported are the FTP protocol, the WebDav protocol,
Dropbox, Google-Drive and One-Drive."
You'll need an FTP server (not a
client). SilentNotes would be the FTP client. FileZilla Server
(https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?type=server) looks to be
free. Others may suggest different free FTP servers.
Besides FTP not being webdav, Silent Notes supports webdav.
https://github.com/martinstoeckli/SilentNotes
"Currently supported are the FTP protocol, the WebDav protocol, Dropbox,
Google-Drive and One-Drive."
While the app's Play Store page says "Currently supported protocols are
the FTP protocol, ...", it doesn't say if FTPs or sFTP are supported.
However, also mentioned is end-to-end encryption, so the data
transferred via FTP can be encrypted. That still leaves unmentioned how >>> to pass the login credentials to the FTP server if FTPs or sFTP are not
supported.
FTP isn't webdav. A client isn't a server. Silent Notes supports webdav.
Oh, wow, gee, I had no clue SilentNotes support WebDAV. Uh huh. What a putz.
2) Certificate chain. Nobody is going to issue a certificate for
a non-routable address (192.168.1.2).
Paul wrote:
2) Certificate chain. Nobody is going to issue a certificate for
a non-routable address (192.168.1.2).
That's OK, because nobody needs to, IPs aren't baked into certs, only
FQDNs.
Get free certs from LetsEncrypt or use openSSL to make your own cert and import your own CA's root so it's trusted by your client.
Arno Welzel wrote:
LetsEncrypt requires a public domain name. It will not work without that.
They won't know whether the client resolves the hostname via public DNS server, private DNS server, or hostsfile ...
if you create your own CA to sign your own cert, just import the root
cert into Android's cert store, so it trusts your cert.
LetsEncrypt requires a public domain name. It will not work without that.
if you create your own CA to sign your own cert, just import the root
cert into Android's cert store, so it trusts your cert.
Even more deeply buried than it used to be, but ...
Settings, Security & Privacy, More Security & Privacy, Encryption & Credentials, Install a Certificate, CA Certificate
On 1/17/2024 12:13 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
if you create your own CA to sign your own cert, just import the root
cert into Android's cert store, so it trusts your cert.
Even more deeply buried than it used to be, but ...
Settings, Security & Privacy, More Security & Privacy, Encryption &
Credentials, Install a Certificate, CA Certificate
All this security stuff confuses me because I have no need for it.
I don't even have a password or pin on my phone. I don't need it.
Nor do I have a password on my user/admin account on Windows.
I don't need it.
Not when everything is on my own LAN I don't.
Do I need to create a certificate for a WebDAV server on Windows
and do I need ANOTHER certificate on Android too?
All this security stuff confuses me because I have no need for it.
I don't even have a password or pin on my phone. I don't need it.
Nor do I have a password on my user/admin account on Windows.
I don't need it.
You do.
Not when everything is on my own LAN I don't.
You still need to take basic security steps. Your phone or PC may be
stolen, and then likely you're in deep shit, just how deep depending on
the abilities of who it ends up in the hands of.
Does anyone else NOT see the Silent Notes' developer's comments on this thread?
I think most of us on Usenet have Google Groups filtered so we won't see
what Martin Stoeckli has been trying to say
What do I need to do in order to set up Windows WebDAV the way you suggest?
Do I need to create a certificate for a WebDAV server on Windows
As far as windows is concerned, no; but SilentNotes might insist on it
Do I need to have a user/password in order to use WebDav from Android
to Windows over my own LAN (and can I use "guest" or "everyone")?
I will do whatever I have to do to get WebDAV working with Android.
On 1/17/2024 7:01 PM, Java Jive wrote:
All this security stuff confuses me because I have no need for it.
I don't even have a password or pin on my phone. I don't need it.
Nor do I have a password on my user/admin account on Windows.
I don't need it.
You do.
Not when everything is on my own LAN I don't.
You still need to take basic security steps. Your phone or PC may be stolen, and then likely you're in deep shit, just how deep depending on the abilities of who it ends up in the hands of.
I will do whatever I have to do to get WebDAV working with Android.
But I have to say I'm so confused that I don't know what's the next step.
I already (think I) enabled the Windows native WebDAV server
1. But I did that without a specific username/password.
2. And I have no idea if the steps I did "created" the certificate.
I need help.
a. If I need to create a username & password on Windows, I can do that.
b. If I need to create a certificate on Windows, I probably can do that.
Can you help me?
What do I need to do next just to make sure the Windows WebDAV server is working (with or without Silent Notes on Android and/or on Windows)?
Please just tell me what I need to do next because I'm not at all sure if
the Windows WebDAV server is working (so there's no point in trying to get Silent Notes to work with it until I can get Windows WebDAV working).
What do I need to do in order to set up Windows WebDAV the way you suggest?
It's worked twice for me, then each time has broken afterwards
On 1/18/2024 1:47 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Do I need to create a certificate for a WebDAV server on Windows
As far as windows is concerned, no; but SilentNotes might insist on it
Does anyone else NOT see the Silent Notes' developer's comments on this thread?
1. https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/URMgMHvb5ls/m/orJgqYaCAgAJ
2. https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/URMgMHvb5ls/m/p90Y4YcfAwAJ
3. https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/URMgMHvb5ls/m/VdavXvUkAwAJ
Martins posts are to comp.mobile.android only.
Perhaps GG removes cross-posts, before POST ?
Or Martin set it that way ?
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3C841de574-0340-4f95-8b50-20c555f10271n%40googlegroups.com%3E
Paul wrote:
Martins posts are to comp.mobile.android only.
Perhaps GG removes cross-posts, before POST ?
Or Martin set it that way ?
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3C841de574-0340-4f95-8b50-20c555f10271n%40googlegroups.com%3E
The Android newsgroup is about 1000 spams to one real post without
filtering out all the Google Groups posts. So it's unusable without
deleting all the Google Groups posts (which only started happening about a month or two ago at this huge level - although it slowly ramped up).
But I don't know how posting with Google Groups to Usenet works (and it probably won't matter in a month anyway).
Even so, I'm guessing Martin Stoeckli probably couldn't post to the two Windows newsgroups because they're not archived by Google Groups.
That's also maybe why the thousand to one spams is not happening on the Windows ngs.
As a separate complaint, I don't know why Google lets so many spammers spam using their accounts. You'd think Google, of all companies, would know a robot from a human, especially as it requires a Google account to do it.
I will do whatever I have to do to get WebDAV working with Android.
I will do whatever I have to do to get WebDAV working with Android.
Did you get this working?
Andy Burns wrote:
Did you get this working?
Not yet.
What's confusing is nobody has ever gotten the WebDAV server that comes
with Windows to work based on the responses to date, so that's an issue.
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