On 03-31-20 22:34, Digital Man wrote to All <=-
So I've been working on this wizard-style installer for FidoNet and FTN-Othernets in Synchronet (v3.17c+).
It's a pretty automated process setting up FidoNet zone 1 and fsxNet (mainly because their echolists are http[s]-gettable).
You can look at the data file that this script uses here: http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ctrl/init-fidonet.ini?view=ma rkup
Currently represented are FidoNet zones 1-4, fsxNet, Agoranet, and
VKRadio net. If you are the administrator/coordinator of a network incorrectly or under represented in this file, please let me know the details.
http://cvs.syOn 03-31-20 22:34, Digital Man wrote to All <=-
So I've been working on this wizard-style installer for FidoNet and FTN-Othernets in Synchronet (v3.17c+).
Now this sounds cool. :)
It's a pretty automated process setting up FidoNet zone 1 and fsxNet (mainly because their echolists are http[s]-gettable).
You can look at the data file that this script uses here:
nchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ctrl/init-fidonet.ini?view=ma rkup
Just had a look. Would it help you if I made the echolist available separately? I do have a copy of the echolist in my infopack.
Currently represented are FidoNet zones 1-4, fsxNet, Agoranet, and VKRadio net. If you are the administrator/coordinator of a network incorrectly or under represented in this file, please let me know the details.
I'm happy to make things easier for your wizard, just let me know how I can help for my net.
On 04-01-20 01:38, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
The directly http-downloadable echolist is the main thing. Also, just double-check my work in that init-fidonet.ini file, if you would be so kind. :-)
It's a pretty automated process setting up FidoNet zone 1 and fsxNet(mainly because their echolists are http[s]-gettable).
And so far, that file looks good, except the infopack URL is now https://, rather than http://
i think what you are asking for is a backbone.na style list of echos for other FTNs?
On 04-01-20 16:45, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: Call-out to administrators of FTN Othernets
By: Tony Langdon to Digital Man on Wed Apr 01 2020 09:23 pm
And so far, that file looks good, except the infopack URL is now https://, rather than http://
http://vkradio.com/vkradio.zip seems to auto-redirect to https://vkradio.comvkradio.zip/ (note the missing slash?).
https://On 04-01-20 16:45, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: Call-out to administrators of FTN Othernets
By: Tony Langdon to Digital Man on Wed Apr 01 2020 09:23 pm
And so far, that file looks good, except the infopack URL is now
rather than http://
http://vkradio.com/vkradio.zip seems to auto-redirect to https://vkradio.comvkradio.zip/ (note the missing slash?).
Hmm, might have to have a closer look at my Apache config, where the redirection is concerned.
On 04-01-20 22:23, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Hmm, might have to have a closer look at my Apache config, where the redirection is concerned.
Okay and when the .na file shows up, I'll commit an update to the .ini file with changes.
Correct, and that's called an echolist. I know it by no other name.
Re: Call-out to administrators of FTN Othernets
By: Digital Man to Rampage on Wed Apr 01 2020 16:47:13
first, sorry for what will likely appear to be a 'wall of words' below... i've been awake since 0300 and the c0ffee is kicking in pretty hard...
Rampage>> i think what you are asking for is a backbone.na style list of
Rampage>> echos for other FTNs?
Correct, and that's called an echolist. I know it by no other name.
that's one of the problems with english when trying to name or describe things that are similar... kinda like the difference between a FTN origin line and a QWK tag line which both list the origin of the message ;)
the echolist is a database, not a file... there are files generated from it listing echos' data...
for example this is the echolist listing for the ARROWBRIDGE echo...
----->8 snip 8<-----and
TAGname: ARROWBRIDGE GROUP: FIDO
TITLe: ARROWBRIDGE Door Game by Mark Sinclair
DESCription: The purpose of this echo is to discuss the ARROWBRIDGE door
game written by Mark Sinclair. Arrowbridge is based on Dungeons and
Dragons but is far more detailed in RPG oriented play. Discussions include
strategies, game features, future enhancements, beta development, and
third-party support programs. Other topical discussions include help
advice for new players to the game.
MODerator: mark lewis, 1:3634/12
VOLume: 5/month
ORIGin: 1:3634/12
RESTrictions: /REA {REAL Names ONLY}
DISTribution: All Fidonet distribution paths
GATEway: MOD APPROVAL *ONLY*
Reply-to: Waldo's Majik Fingers, 1:3634/12
From: Waldo's Majik Fingers, 1:3634/12
Updated on: 6/28/2018
----->8 snip 8<-----
the backbone.na file is (generally) generated by a backbone distribution system... it contains only the echotag and the short description of the echo...
this is the backbone.na entry for the ARROWBRIDGE echo...
----->8 snip 8<-----Sinclair
ARROWBRIDGE ARROWBRIDGE Door Game by Mark
----->8 snip 8<-----
yes, both do list echos but the format is much different... i've (almost?) always called the backbone.na by its name and the echolist by its name... i know it can be and has been confusing over the years... especially to folks that are not all that familiar with them ;)
to make things even more confused, the last echolist keeper, may he rest in peace, also generated a file named elist.na which was a backbone.na-style listing of all the echos in the echolist... the problem with it is/wasthere
was no separation of areas available in the different networks using the echolist for storage of their echos' data... it was also impossible to see any possible restrictions on the echos listed or who the moderator was...
it was even more confusing in years past when there were three backbone entities in fidonet, each with their own backbone.na-style file...
backbone.na from the NAB (North American Backbone)
backbone.na from the Z1B (Zone 1 Backbone - defunct)
backbone.na from the WWB (World Wide Backbone - defunct)
with all that said, "backbone.na-style echolist" is a mouthfull to say and handful to write... i get it...
On 04-02-20 20:40, Tony Langdon wrote to Digital Man <=-
On 04-01-20 22:23, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Hmm, might have to have a closer look at my Apache config, where the redirection is concerned.
Okay and when the .na file shows up, I'll commit an update to the .ini file with changes.
Should be up within 12 hours. :)
You can look at the data file that this script uses here:
* Fixed some items for Zone 77.
[zone:77]
name = SciNet
desc = Active network for the BBS scene
info = https://scinet-ftn.org/
coord = Frank Linhares
email = scinet@diskshop.ca
addr = 77:1/100
fido = 1:229/101
dns = scinet-ftn.org
echolist = https://scinet-ftn.org/scinet.na
*Fixed line* areatag_prefix = SCINET_
* Micronet info for init-fidonet.ini
[zone:618]
name = micronet
desc = Micronet Information Network
info = bbs.outpostbbs.net
coord = Sean Dennis
email =zc@minftn.net
*Fixed * addr = 618:618/1
*fixed* fido = 1:18/200
dns =
echolist =
*fixed* areatag_prefix = MICRONET
Re: Call-out to administrators of FTN Othernets
By: Gregz to Digital Man on Mon Apr 06 2020 05:46 pm
So looking at the echolist, the prefix I see is "SCI". If you specify an aretag_prefix of "SCINET_", those areas would be imported into SCFG with internal codes:
SCINET_SCICHAT
SCINET_SCIADS
etc.
Is this what you had in mind?
I'm confused, those addr and fido values are already set like that.
And likewise with the Micronet echolist, the sysop would end up with: MICRONETMIN_ADMIN
MICRONETMIN_BBS
etc.
... you want that?
digital man
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Re: Call-out to administrators of FTN Othernets
By: Gregz to Digital Man on Mon Apr 06 2020 05:46 pm
So looking at the echolist, the prefix I see is "SCI". If you specify an aretag_prefix of "SCINET_", those areas would be imported into SCFG with internal codes:
SCINET_SCICHAT
SCINET_SCIADS
etc.
Is this what you had in mind?
I'm confused, those addr and fido values are already set like that.
And likewise with the Micronet echolist, the sysop would end up with: MICRONETMIN_ADMIN
MICRONETMIN_BBS
etc.
... you want that?
I went with the shortened version as you described. It does make it easier when looking at areas.bbs
Hey DM, got one for you.the
There's a couple of networks that originate as QWKnets, but more recently, have become the official FTN gate for them. I have run your idea past the network owner, and he's interested. However, I'm not sure how to report
division of dutires in these nets. While he's the overall net admin, I am the coordinator for the FTN side of things. I've defined the addressing scheme, manage the nodelist, manage FTN feeds, etc.
Also, another issue I need to keep track of is when users apply formultiple
feeds on my system. I may have to change my application forms for thatone.
:)
On 04-07-20 10:36, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
With regards to the init-fidonet.js, the "coord", "email", and "fido"
keys are used for submitting node number applications. So whoever that would (sounds like you). There's an "also" field where you can list the overall net admin's name and contact info as well.
Also, another issue I need to keep track of is when users apply formultiple
feeds on my system. I may have to change my application forms for thatone.
:)
One thing the init-fidonet.js doesn't do is fill out a application
form. It can send an email or netmail request with the necessary
details (binkp session password, areafix password, etc.) in a very-automated fashion. Hopefully that'll be sufficient for the various net admins to assign node numbers.
theOn 04-07-20 10:36, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
With regards to the init-fidonet.js, the "coord", "email", and "fido" keys are used for submitting node number applications. So whoever that would (sounds like you). There's an "also" field where you can list
variousoverall net admin's name and contact info as well.
Yes, I handle all of the FTN side of things. :)
Also, another issue I need to keep track of is when users apply for multiple feeds on my system. I may have to change my application forms for that one. :)
One thing the init-fidonet.js doesn't do is fill out a application form. It can send an email or netmail request with the necessary details (binkp session password, areafix password, etc.) in a very-automated fashion. Hopefully that'll be sufficient for the
VKRadionet admins to assign node numbers.
That's up to the net admins. I certainly am happy with that for any
applications, the application form for me is just an information gathering mechanism. Do you have fields for different connection types? I have IFT capabilities, though I haven't updated my application yet.
On 04-08-20 11:41, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-VKRadio
That's up to the net admins. I certainly am happy with that for any
applications, the application form for me is just an information gathering mechanism. Do you have fields for different connection types? I have IFT capabilities, though I haven't updated my application yet.
No, the setup script assumes BinkP and even installs and configures
BinkIT automatically. There are options, but only the strictly
necessary ones to get NetMail and EchoMail flowing.
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