• Eweb

    From HusTler@1:103/705 to All on Wed Oct 2 09:02:57 2019
    Ftelnet does not work on my Synchronet BBS web page. What are the trouble spots? I think this is a provider problem but what do I know. I haven't touched any of the default settings. I thought it worked out of the box but I could be wrong. What should I check for? It didn't work with the stock web and now it doesn't world with ecwebv4. I believe the site runs under Linode.

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 2 10:11:22 2019
    Re: Eweb
    By: HusTler to All on Wed Oct 02 2019 09:02:57

    Ftelnet does not work on my Synchronet BBS web page. What are the trouble
    spots? I think this is a
    provider problem but what do I know. I haven't touched any of the default
    settings. I thought it
    worked out of the box but I could be wrong. What should I check for? It
    didn't work with the stock
    web and now it doesn't world with ecwebv4. I believe the site runs under
    Linode.

    https://github.com/echicken/synchronet-web-v4/wiki/ftelnet

    ftelnet is trying to connect to your WebSocket proxy server at havens.synchro.net port 1123. Your server is refusing connections on that port. For starters make sure that port is forwarded correctly.

    The documentation at the above URL also contains information which may help you (or Marisa, I presume) check some other details.

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  • From Marisag@1:103/705 to echicken on Wed Oct 2 14:22:59 2019
    Re: Eweb
    By: echicken to HusTler on Wed Oct 02 2019 10:11:22

    https://github.com/echicken/synchronet-web-v4/wiki/ftelnet

    ftelnet is trying to connect to your WebSocket proxy server at havens.synchro.net port 1123. Your server is refusing connections on that port. For starters make sure that port is forwarded correctly.

    The documentation at the above URL also contains information which may help you (or Marisa, I presume) check some other details.

    Hiya, at one point I had it working, I will check that link above and see if I can narrow it down....

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to echicken on Fri Oct 4 08:21:32 2019
    Re: Eweb
    By: Marisag to echicken on Wed Oct 02 2019 02:22 pm

    The documentation at the above URL also contains information which may help you (or Marisa, I presume) check some other details.

    Everything checks out as per the instructions on gitub. Any other suggestions? Is it possible MarisaG's provider is not allowing ftelnet connections? Where else can I look? The ports are open and listening. I get "connecting to sever" or "redirecting to server and then a blank screen.

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Fri Oct 4 09:27:37 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to echicken on Fri Oct 04 2019 08:21:32

    Everything checks out as per the instructions on gitub. Any other
    suggestions? Is it possible
    MarisaG's provider is not allowing ftelnet connections? Where else can I
    look? The ports are open
    and listening. I get "connecting to sever" or "redirecting to server and
    then a blank screen.

    You could try altering your [WS] (and [WSS] if you offer HTTPS) section(s) of ctrl/services.ini like so:

    [WS]
    Port=1123
    Options=NO_HOST_LOOKUP
    Command=websocketservice.js havens.synchro.net 23

    In other words, just add host and port parameters to the Command line(s).

    Your services thread should restart after you alter that file. If unsure about that, just restart your BBS.

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to echicken on Sat Oct 5 07:46:10 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: echicken to HusTler on Fri Oct 04 2019 09:27 am


    Everything checks out as per the instructions on gitub. Any other suggestions? Is it possible

    You could try altering your [WS] (and [WSS] if you offer HTTPS) section(s) of ctrl/services.ini like so:

    [WS]
    Port=1123
    Options=NO_HOST_LOOKUP
    Command=websocketservice.js havens.synchro.net 23

    Ok that didn't work. Anything else? What is ftelnet doing when it is "redirecting to server" ? Is there an error log for ftelnet?

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Sat Oct 5 11:13:27 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to echicken on Sat Oct 05 2019 07:46:10


    Ok that didn't work. Anything else? What is ftelnet doing when it is
    "redirecting to server" ? Is
    there an error log for ftelnet?

    The "Redirecting to server..." message comes from websocketservice.js. At this point ftelnet has connected to your websocket server, and the websocket server is trying to connect to your telnet server.

    ftelnet is the thing that runs in your browser. If it generates any error messages, they would appear in the browser's console.

    websocketservice.js runs on your BBS. Any error messages it generates would appear in your server's logs. They should include 'WS' or whatever you named this servce in ctrl/services.ini. You'll probably see something like "Error <something> connecting to server at <host>:<port>".

    If you're at an OS command prompt / shell on your BBS' server, can you 'telnet havens.synchro.net' and are you able to connect to your BBS that way? If not, figure out what combination of hostname/IP address and port you need to type in to make that work, then use those as the host and port parameters to websocketservice.js in services.ini.

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to echicken on Sun Oct 6 13:11:11 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: echicken to HusTler on Sat Oct 05 2019 11:13 am

    The "Redirecting to server..." message comes from websocketservice.js. At If you're at an OS command prompt / shell on your BBS' server, can you 'telnet havens.synchro.net' and are you able to connect to your BBS that way? If not, figure out what combination of hostname/IP address and port you need to type in to make that work, then use those as the host and port parameters to websocketservice.js in services.ini.

    Hmmm. I can't telnet to the BBS from the Server command prompt. Why is that? I can telnet and ssh from my home pc to the server (Ubuntu) but from the server command prompt to the BBS the connection closes imidietly. Of course I can telnet and ssh to the BBS from my home pc but nothing doing from the command prompt of the server to the bbs. I'm not a server expert. I leave the server stuff to MarisaG. What do I ask her to look at? I suspect a permission problem (as usual). This must be a network problem somewhere. No??

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Sun Oct 6 15:31:12 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to echicken on Sun Oct 06 2019 13:11:11

    Hmmm. I can't telnet to the BBS from the Server command prompt. Why is
    that?

    I could only guess. There may be an 'Interface' listed for the telnet server in sbbs.ini; maybe try connecting to that. (Can't remember if you've tried that yet.)

    closes imidietly. Of course I can telnet and ssh to the BBS from my home
    pc but nothing doing from
    the command prompt of the server to the bbs. I'm not a server expert. I
    leave the server stuff to
    MarisaG. What do I ask her to look at? I suspect a permission problem (as
    usual). This must be a
    network problem somewhere. No??

    A "permission problem" typically relates to the filesystem, which is unlikely to be the cause here.

    It may not be a network *problem* but it'll have something to do with how networking is configured.

    You or Marisa need to figure out how to make this command work:

    telnet <address> <port>

    Once any problems are resolved and you know what value of <address> and <port> will connect to your BBS from the same server, those can be the parameters to websocketservice.js.

    Did you ever get MRC working? If so, how? It might have had a similar solution, since the MRC client connects to an MRC service on the same machine.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to HusTler on Sun Oct 6 12:41:08 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to echicken on Sun Oct 06 2019 01:11 pm

    Re: Ftelnet
    By: echicken to HusTler on Sat Oct 05 2019 11:13 am

    The "Redirecting to server..." message comes from websocketservice.js.
    At If you're at an OS command prompt / shell on your BBS' server, can
    you
    'telnet havens.synchro.net' and are you able to connect to your BBS that way? If not, figure out what combination of hostname/IP address and
    port
    you need to type in to make that work, then use those as the host and port parameters to websocketservice.js in services.ini.

    Hmmm. I can't telnet to the BBS from the Server command prompt. Why is that?

    Is the BBS and the Server the same system or on the same private network? If on the same system, can you telnet to "localhost" (or 127.0.0.1 or ::1)? if on the same private network, can you telnet to its private IP address (10.* or 192.168.*)?

    I can telnet and ssh from my home pc to the server (Ubuntu) but from
    the server command prompt to the BBS the connection closes imidietly. Of course I can telnet and ssh to the BBS from my home pc but nothing doing from the command prompt of the server to the bbs. I'm not a server expert. leave the server stuff to MarisaG. What do I ask her to look at? I suspect permission problem (as usual). This must be a network problem somewhere. No??

    Sounds possibly like a lack of support for hair-pinning, but without understanding this server vs. BBS naming of things and where they reside, that's just a guess.

    digital man

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  • From Mortifis@1:103/705 to HusTler on Sun Oct 6 23:33:31 2019
    I telneted to your board, filled out the NUQ and was kicked off saying I had already sent too many emails today and I have to send Hustler an email ... might want to check your restrictions :-/




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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Mortifis on Mon Oct 7 13:29:45 2019
    Re: Havens BBS
    By: Mortifis to HusTler on Sun Oct 06 2019 11:33 pm

    I telneted to your board, filled out the NUQ and was kicked off saying I
    had
    already sent too many emails today and I have to send Hustler an email ... might want to check your restrictions :-/

    Wow really? Thanks. I'm not surprised though. The BBS has been nothing but trouble. Thanks again.

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Mortifis on Mon Oct 7 16:23:27 2019
    Re: Havens BBS
    By: HusTler to Mortifis on Mon Oct 07 2019 01:29 pm

    I telneted to your board, filled out the NUQ and was kicked off saying I had already sent too many emails today and I have to send Hustler an email ... might want to check your restrictions :-/

    Wow really? Thanks. I'm not surprised though. The BBS has been nothing but trouble. Thanks again.

    Thanks very much for letting me know about this. I have no idea how long this has been going on which really sux! When you find the time I'd appreciate it if you tried again. I want to make sure the problem has been resolved. Thanks again.

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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to HusTler on Mon Oct 7 18:58:00 2019
    HusTler wrote to Mortifis <=-

    Re: Havens BBS
    By: Mortifis to HusTler on Sun Oct 06 2019 11:33 pm

    I telneted to your board, filled out the NUQ and was kicked off saying I
    had
    already sent too many emails today and I have to send Hustler an email ... might want to check your restrictions :-/

    Wow really? Thanks. I'm not surprised though. The BBS has been
    nothing but trouble. Thanks again.

    Well, in all fairness to "the BBS", it does exactly what it's
    Sysop has configured it to do...



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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Tue Oct 8 08:44:26 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Mon Oct 07 2019 06:58 pm

    Well, in all fairness to "the BBS", it does exactly what it's
    Sysop has configured it to do...

    Not when the BBS is installed and run on another SysOps server.

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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to HusTler on Tue Oct 8 11:26:00 2019
    HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Mon Oct 07 2019 06:58 pm

    Well, in all fairness to "the BBS", it does exactly what it's
    Sysop has configured it to do...

    Not when the BBS is installed and run on another SysOps server.

    Not sure I understand here... If I recall correctly, you're
    running on one of "MarisaG"'s hosted servers? OK.... but are
    *YOU* the Sysop of Havens BBS? If so, it's configured by you, not
    her (or anybody else). Doesn't really matter where it's running,
    the Sysop configures it. That's you, right?



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  • From Rampage@1:103/705 to HusTler on Tue Oct 8 14:55:02 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: HusTler to Gamgee on Tue Oct 08 2019 08:44:26

    Well, in all fairness to "the BBS", it does exactly what it's
    Sysop has configured it to do...

    Not when the BBS is installed and run on another SysOps server.

    sure it does... the operator of the BBS should always check the settings when running something that someone else has set up... it doesn't matter who's server it is, really... just that the install is workable and the settings are as the operator desires... yes, there are hundreds of them for that full old-school feeling and enjoyment ;)


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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Wed Oct 9 08:43:38 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Tue Oct 08 2019 11:26 am

    Not sure I understand here... If I recall correctly, you're
    running on one of "MarisaG"'s hosted servers? OK.... but are
    *YOU* the Sysop of Havens BBS? If so, it's configured by you, not
    her (or anybody else). Doesn't really matter where it's running,
    the Sysop configures it. That's you, right?

    Of course it matters. I didn't configure it when it was installed she did. Don't try and think too much. You might hurt yourself.

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to All on Wed Oct 9 08:57:09 2019
    Ok I need to know who to ask for help fixing the Ftelnet on Havens BBS.

    A) MarisaG The Server Administrator and orginal installer of Synchronet

    B) Digital Man Synchronet Author and Updater

    C) Echicken Author of Ewebv4 which uses ftelnet (Note Ftelnet did not work
    prior to the install of echickens web)

    D) The SysOp that runs the BBS but has made no changes to the original install
    of ftelent

    At this point I'd be happy to give anyone any permissions to fix the darn thing.

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to All on Wed Oct 9 10:43:42 2019
    This is the section of sbbs.ini MArisaG installed. Is it correct?

    [BBS] Terminal Server
    ; Set to 'false' to disable Telnet/Rlogin/Event server:
    AutoStart = true
    ; Set to IP address of network interface (or blank for default):
    TelnetInterface =
    RLoginInterface = 45.56.88.52
    SSHInterface =
    ; TCP port for Telnet server:
    TelnetPort = 23
    ; TCP port for RLogin server:
    RLoginPort = 513
    ; TCP port for Secure Shell (SSH) server:
    SSHPort = 2222
    ; TCP port for 80-column PETSCII connections (any terminal protocol):
    Pet80Port = 128
    ; Note on PETSCII support: you must add the same port(s) to one of your
    ; *Interface= values above to open/listen/accept connections on that port.
    ; Example:
    ; TelnetInterface = 71.95.196.34,71.95.196.34:64,71.95.196.34:128

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 11:05:41 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to All on Wed Oct 09 2019 08:57:09

    Ok I need to know who to ask for help fixing the Ftelnet on Havens BBS.

    A) MarisaG The Server Administrator and orginal installer of Synchronet

    Depends on how your support arrangement with her works.

    B) Digital Man Synchronet Author and Updater

    No. He has offered a suggestion though.

    C) Echicken Author of Ewebv4 which uses ftelnet (Note Ftelnet did not
    work prior to the
    install of echickens web)

    You did and I replied. Maybe my messages aren't getting out - I have offered some suggestions and asked some questions that went unanswered. If you see this, please let me know.
    D) The SysOp that runs the BBS but has made no changes to the original
    install
    of ftelent

    I suggested that you change the command line to websocketservice.js in services.ini. Making no changes at this point will not resolve anything.

    I'm sorry this isn't working automatically. When it doesn't, that usually means there's something about your system which the scripts don't currently account for. Or you're using an older version of websocketservice.js and it isn't picking up the right host/port to connect to.

    Maybe Marisa, who knows how your server is configured and should understand its network configuration, can tell you what IP address and port you must use to connect to the telnet server locally - as in from the same machine.

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 11:13:04 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to All on Wed Oct 09 2019 10:43:42

    This is the section of sbbs.ini MArisaG installed. Is it correct?

    There's nothing inherently wrong with it. "Correct" depends on your server.

    How about ctrl/services.ini? Here's what my websocket service is like there:

    [WS]
    Port=1123
    Options=NO_HOST_LOOKUP
    Command=websocketservice.js

    Does yours look like that? Is anything else in that file configured to listen on port 1123? Is there anything else in that file with "websocket" in the "Command" line?

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to All on Wed Oct 9 10:49:50 2019
    Here is the bottom half of the services.ini. Again installed by MarisaG

    [BINKP]
    Enabled=false
    Port=24554
    Command=binkit.js

    [FlashPolicy]
    Port=843
    Command=flashpolicyserver.js
    Enabled=false

    [WS]
    Port=1123
    Options=NO_HOST_LOOKUP
    Command=websocketservice.js

    [WSS]
    Port=11234
    Options=NO_HOST_LOOKUP|TLS
    Command=websocketservice.js



    [JSON-Service]
    Port=10088
    Options=STATIC|LOOP

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 11:35:55 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to All on Wed Oct 09 2019 10:49:50

    Here is the bottom half of the services.ini. Again installed by MarisaG

    [WS]
    Port=1123
    Options=NO_HOST_LOOKUP
    Command=websocketservice.js

    And is anything else in that file configured with Port=1123?

    Check that these files are up to date with what's in CVS:

    exec/websocketservice.js
    exec/load/ftelnethelper.js

    Also check that there are not copies of either of these files in your mods/ directory.

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to echicken on Wed Oct 9 11:43:38 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: echicken to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 11:05 am

    I suggested that you change the command line to websocketservice.js in services.ini. Making no changes at this point will not resolve anything.

    I did reply sir. I made the changes you suggested but the problem still persists.

    I'm sorry this isn't working automatically. When it doesn't, that usually means there's something about your system which the scripts don't currently account for. Or you're using an older version of websocketservice.js and it isn't picking up the right host/port to connect to.

    To the best of my knowlege Synchronet is current and updated

    Maybe Marisa, who knows how your server is configured and should understand its network configuration, can tell you what IP address and port you must use to connect to the telnet server locally - as in from the same machine.

    I suspect MarisaG's server/provider is where the problem is. I'm thinking maybe her provider has ftelnet blocked for security reasons maybe? This is just a guess. I don't know the details of her provider. She keeps telling me she's busy and will "look into it" but it's been 2 months now. That's why I'm trying to trouble shoot it myself but I'm spinning my wheels. I don't have the network "know how" to trouble shoot server problems. Especially someone else's. I can tell you a lot of "weird" things have happened in the past beyond my control. Thanks for your reply. I know for a fact ftelnet works out of the box. I never had trouble with it when I ran Synhronet on my own machine. Thanks again

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to echicken on Wed Oct 9 11:50:11 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: echicken to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 11:13 am

    This is the section of sbbs.ini MArisaG installed. Is it correct?
    How about ctrl/services.ini? Here's what my websocket service is like there:

    [WS]
    Port=1123
    Options=NO_HOST_LOOKUP
    Command=websocketservice.js

    Does yours look like that? Is anything else in that file configured to listen on port 1123? Is there anything else in that file with "websocket" in the "Command" line?

    Yes sir. It looks like that and there's nothing I know of listening to that port. However the BBS comes preconfigured with a shit load of Xternal programs (Doors) and I've never checked what ports they all use. I didn't install those neither. MarisaG did. I'll have to go through them one by one.

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 13:00:19 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to echicken on Wed Oct 09 2019 11:43:38

    I did reply sir. I made the changes you suggested but the problem still
    persists.

    Have you found a way yet to telnet to your BBS from the BBS server itself?

    Did you ever get MRC working? It may have been having a very similar problem with a very similar solution.

    To the best of my knowlege Synchronet is current and updated

    When is the last time it was updated?

    How is it being updated?

    Do you update it or does Marisa update it?

    The CVS repository has a web interface if that makes things easier. You can see the current version numbers of these scripts and compare them to what you have:

    http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/exec/websocketservice.js http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/exec/load/ftelnethelper.js

    I suspect MarisaG's server/provider is where the problem is. I'm thinking
    maybe her
    provider has ftelnet blocked for security reasons maybe? This is just a
    guess. I don't

    They are not blocking the port that your websocket server is listening on. I just connected to it from here. Your websocket server is failing to connect to your telnet server, which is on the same machine. This is not the hosting provider blocking anything.

    know the details of her provider. She keeps telling me she's busy and
    will "look into
    it" but it's been 2 months now. That's why I'm trying to trouble shoot it
    myself but

    Are you paying her?

    Are you paying her solely for use of a server?

    Are you paying her for a server and for application support?

    The answers to these questions determine what she owes you and whether you might just want to run the BBS on your own system.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 10:53:10 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to All on Wed Oct 09 2019 08:57 am

    Ok I need to know who to ask for help fixing the Ftelnet on Havens BBS.

    A) MarisaG The Server Administrator and orginal installer of Synchronet

    That'd be a good place to start.


    B) Digital Man Synchronet Author and Updater

    C) Echicken Author of Ewebv4 which uses ftelnet (Note Ftelnet did not work prior to the install of echickens web)

    D) The SysOp that runs the BBS but has made no changes to the original install
    of ftelent

    Isn't that you?

    At this point I'd be happy to give anyone any permissions to fix the darn thing.

    There's also option E) Rick Parrish, the author of fTelnet and original contributor of websocketservice.js: https://www.ftelnet.ca/contact/

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #13:
    Synchronet was the first BBS software to ship with internal QWK networking. Norco, CA WX: 65.8øF, 72.0% humidity, 3 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 10:56:35 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to All on Wed Oct 09 2019 10:43 am

    This is the section of sbbs.ini MArisaG installed. Is it correct?

    [BBS] Terminal Server
    ; Set to 'false' to disable Telnet/Rlogin/Event server:
    AutoStart = true
    ; Set to IP address of network interface (or blank for default):
    TelnetInterface =
    RLoginInterface = 45.56.88.52

    As I think I explained recently, websocketservice.js connect to 'localhost' by default and your RLoginInterface value does not include localhost. You need to either set your RLogin server to *also* listen on localhost (127.0.0.1) or tell websocketservice.js to connect to the IP address you have shown above.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #46:
    MODEM = Modulator/Demodulator
    Norco, CA WX: 65.8øF, 72.0% humidity, 3 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 13:51:09 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to echicken on Wed Oct 09 2019 11:50:11

    However the BBS comes preconfigured with a shit load of Xternal programs
    (Doors) and
    I've never checked what ports they all use. I didn't install those
    neither. MarisaG

    Pretty much any server that Synchronet runs will be listed in sbbs.ini or services.ini, including stuff required for external programs.

    Only you and Marisa know about stuff that is running independent of the main Synchronet process.

    Try using telnet to connect to port 1123 of your server, and watch your BBS' log output when you do so. You should see a line like:

    WS connection accepted from: 127.0.0.1 port 56312

    address and port may be different.

    If you do see something like that corresponding to your connection attempt, then it is the WS service that is accepting the connection, and you don't need to worry about anything else occupying its port.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Oct 9 16:15:42 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: Digital Man to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 10:53 am

    Ok I need to know who to ask for help fixing the Ftelnet on Havens BBS.
    A) MarisaG The Server Administrator and orginal installer of Synchronet

    That'd be a good place to start.
    D) The SysOp that runs the BBS but has made no changes to the original install
    of ftelent
    Isn't that you?

    Yes sir. I have access to make any changes to the Synchronet BBS configuration. I don't think I have access to make changes on the server the BBS lives on which is a Ubuntu server. Or maybe I do have access? I don't know? What would I need to do to trouble shoot the server? I don't see anything wrong with the BBS configuration. All the other services work fine eg. Telnet, SSH, HTTP, IRC,. Ftlenet is the only service not working.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.net
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Mortifis@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 17:21:42 2019
    Re: Havens BBS
    By: HusTler to Mortifis on Mon Oct 07 2019 01:29 pm

    I telneted to your board, filled out the NUQ and was kicked off
    saying
    I had already sent too many emails today and I have to send Hustler
    an
    email ... might want to check your restrictions :-/

    Wow really? Thanks. I'm not surprised though. The BBS has been nothing but trouble. Thanks again.

    Thanks very much for letting me know about this. I have no idea how long this has been going on which really sux! When you find the time I'd appreciate it if you tried again. I want to make sure the problem has been resolved. Thanks again.

    Do you have user restrictions FLAG S set? if yes, remove it

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ AlleyCat! BBS - http://alleycat.synchro.net:81
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 16:45:13 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to Digital Man on Wed Oct 09 2019 16:15:42

    Ftlenet is the only service not working.

    Remember that fTelnet is not a service - it's a browser-based telnet-over-websocket application. "WS" is the service (a websocket server).

    server. Or maybe I do have access? I don't know? What would I need to do
    to trouble
    shoot the server? I don't see anything wrong with the BBS configuration.
    All the other

    SSH into the server. Try each of these commands:

    telnet havens.synchro.net 23
    telnet havens.synchronetbbs.org 23
    telnet 45.56.88.52 23
    telnet 127.0.0.1 23

    Did any of them result in a successful telnet connection to your BBS? If so, which one(s) worked? If none of them worked, what output / errors did you receive?

    If the error was "telnet: command not found" (or similar), try "nc havens.synchro.net 23" instead, and repeat with the other hostnames.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to echicken on Wed Oct 9 17:04:20 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: echicken to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 04:45 pm

    SSH into the server. Try each of these commands:

    telnet havens.synchro.net 23
    telnet havens.synchronetbbs.org 23
    telnet 45.56.88.52 23
    telnet 127.0.0.1 23
    When I SSH to the server and try to connect I get this:

    root@havens:/home/heliarc# telnet havens.synchro.net 23
    Trying 45.56.88.52...
    Connected to havens.synchro.net.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    Connection closed by foreign host.

    The same with all the others. Now if I try the same remotely (My home PC)

    I am able to connect with no problem. I could also give you the netstat results but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to publish those results in a public message area. Maybe I could email them to you??

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.net
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 17:43:21 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to echicken on Wed Oct 09 2019 17:04:20

    root@havens:/home/heliarc# telnet havens.synchro.net 23
    Trying 45.56.88.52...
    Connected to havens.synchro.net.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    Connection closed by foreign host.

    Are *you* disconnecting, or is it spontaneously disconnecting you right after you connect? Just wondering what is precipitating this "Connection closed by foreign host" message.

    Check the ip-silent.can, ip.can, and host.can files in your text/ directory. Remove any lines containing 45.56.88.52, 127.0.0.1, havens.synchro.net, havens.synchronetbbs.org, or localhost.

    The same with all the others. Now if I try the same remotely (My home PC) I am able to connect with no problem. I could also give you the netstat
    results but I'm

    Netstat results not needed.

    The problem isn't with ftelnet or with the websocket service, nor (likely) anything at a basic networking level. You can connect to your telnet server locally, but something is disconnecting you immediately after that. Could be due to an entry in your filter files, could be some other weird thing happening during your login process.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to HUSTLER on Wed Oct 9 17:30:00 2019
    Make sure your services.ini has something like the following:

    ;WebSocket service (for fTelnet loaded via http://).
    ;For troubleshooting, please see https://www.ftelnet.ca/synchronet/
    [WS]
    Port=1123
    Options=NO_HOST_LOOKUP
    Command=websocketservice.js

    ;WebSocket Secure service (for fTelnet loaded via https://).
    ;For troubleshooting, please see https://www.ftelnet.ca/synchronet/
    [WSS]
    Port=11235
    Options=NO_HOST_LOOKUP | TLS
    Command=websocketservice.js

    I believe that those ports also need to be opened on your router/firewall.

    ---
    þ SLMR 2.1a þ Arkansas figured out a way to get rid of Billy-Jeff.
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to ECHICKEN on Wed Oct 9 17:31:00 2019
    You did and I replied. Maybe my messages aren't getting out - I have offered >me suggestions and asked some questions that went unanswered. If you see this,
    please let me know.

    It got here so you are getting out.

    ---
    þ SLMR 2.1a þ !enilgat cinataS !eraweB
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to HUSTLER on Wed Oct 9 17:35:00 2019
    Yes sir. It looks like that and there's nothing I know of listening to that po
    rt. However the BBS comes preconfigured with a shit load of Xternal programs (D
    ors) and I've never checked what ports they all use. I didn't install those nei
    her. MarisaG did. I'll have to go through them one by one.

    Well, I don't know for sure which service is doing the listening... it
    could be ftelnet or something else... but something is listening on Port
    1123.

    $ telnet havens.synchro.net 1123
    Trying 45.56.88.52...
    Connected to havens.synchro.net.
    Escape character is '^]'.

    ---
    þ SLMR 2.1a þ "La Quinta." Spanish for "Next to Denny's."
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 17:43:00 2019
    HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Not sure I understand here... If I recall correctly, you're
    running on one of "MarisaG"'s hosted servers? OK.... but are
    *YOU* the Sysop of Havens BBS? If so, it's configured by you, not
    her (or anybody else). Doesn't really matter where it's running,
    the Sysop configures it. That's you, right?

    Of course it matters. I didn't configure it when it was
    installed she did. Don't try and think too much. You might hurt
    yourself.

    OK, so you're not a Sysop. Got it.

    This echo is for Sysops only.

    This may also explain why you had so much trouble with FidoNet configuration/operation... LOL



    ... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Wed Oct 9 18:28:10 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 05:43 pm

    Of course it matters. I didn't configure it when it was
    installed she did. Don't try and think too much. You might hurt
    yourself.

    OK, so you're not a Sysop. Got it.

    This echo is for Sysops only.

    I thought Hustler was the sysop of Havens BBS? I've seen him talk about updating his Synchronet files, etc.. Marisa G may have set up Synchronet for him, but I think that's probably something she does on her BBS hosting servers.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 23:49:04 2019

    On 2019 Oct 09 11:43:38, you wrote to echicken:

    I know for a fact ftelnet works out of the box. I never had trouble
    with it when I ran Synhronet on my own machine. Thanks again

    no it doesn't... it didn't here when i installed 3.16 from the repo and updated into the 3.17 code in the repo... i specifically had to make some edits to the runescape files for ftelnet to work properly here...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
    ... Cats contribute to living a longer life
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 23:51:06 2019

    On 2019 Oct 09 11:50:10, you wrote to echicken:

    Yes sir. It looks like that and there's nothing I know of listening to that port. However the BBS comes preconfigured with a shit load of
    Xternal
    programs (Doors) and I've never checked what ports they all use. I didn't install those neither. MarisaG did. I'll have to go through them one by one.

    they shouldn't be using any network ports... they're BBS doors and use a virtual com port... likely COM1... that virtual port is then connected to the current connection stream... telnet, rlogin, or ssh depending on how the connection is made... if it is via a web interface, then the websockets come into play and that's been being explained to you recently...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
    ... A cat's courage is only as strong as the dog's chain.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Oct 9 20:12:00 2019
    [BBS] Terminal Server
    ; Set to 'false' to disable Telnet/Rlogin/Event server:
    AutoStart = true
    ; Set to IP address of network interface (or blank for default):
    TelnetInterface =
    RLoginInterface = 45.56.88.52

    As I think I explained recently, websocketservice.js connect to 'localhost' by
    efault and your RLoginInterface value does not include localhost. You need to >ther set your RLogin server to *also* listen on localhost (127.0.0.1) or tell >bsocketservice.js to connect to the IP address you have shown above.

    You may have already covered this but is the proper way to list both IP
    address by putting a semi-colon between the two on the same line?

    My setting is currently BLANK (which the notes say is "for default") and,
    the last I checked, ftelnet works.

    Thanks!

    ---
    þ SLMR 2.1a þ A KGB keyboard has no ESC key.
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Wed Oct 9 22:10:31 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: Mike Powell to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Oct 09 2019 08:12 pm

    [BBS] Terminal Server
    ; Set to 'false' to disable Telnet/Rlogin/Event server:
    AutoStart = true
    ; Set to IP address of network interface (or blank for default):
    TelnetInterface =
    RLoginInterface = 45.56.88.52

    As I think I explained recently, websocketservice.js connect to
    'localhost'
    by >efault and your RLoginInterface value does not include localhost. You need to e
    ther set your RLogin server to *also* listen on localhost (127.0.0.1) or tell w
    bsocketservice.js to connect to the IP address you have shown above.

    You may have already covered this but is the proper way to list both IP address by putting a semi-colon between the two on the same line?

    Multiple addresses must be separated with commas.

    My setting is currently BLANK (which the notes say is "for default") and, the last I checked, ftelnet works.

    Yup. The default is "all interfaces" (0,::).

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #13:
    CP437 = Code Page 437 (so-called IBM Extended ASCII)
    Norco, CA WX: 58.1øF, 87.0% humidity, 0 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Marisag@1:103/705 to HusTler on Wed Oct 9 16:15:42 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: HusTler to Gamgee on Tue Oct 08 2019 08:44:26

    Not when the BBS is installed and run on another SysOps server.

    Don't point that at me - I had updated your BBS and webv4 to the current one working and you told me not to update you anymore and now this happened. You can't tell me to not update you then complain when it gets broken... :(

    Marisa
    --- https://SynchronetBBS.org/OurServers - A list of all our websites
    --- https://SynchronetBBS.org/HostSplash - SBBS hosting for $14/month
    þ Synchronet þ Amiga City - The BBS for the Amiga - more than 3,500+ files
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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to echicken on Thu Oct 10 08:51:22 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: echicken to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 05:43 pm

    Are *you* disconnecting, or is it spontaneously disconnecting you right after you connect? Just wondering what is precipitating this "Connection closed by foreign host" message.

    Check the ip-silent.can, ip.can, and host.can files in your text/
    directory.
    Remove any lines containing 45.56.88.52, 127.0.0.1, havens.synchro.net, havens.synchronetbbs.org, or localhost.


    THAT WAS IT!! YOU GOT IT MR Echicken! 45.46.88.52 and 127.0.0.1 was in ip.can. I can now login to the BBS from the server command prompt and ftelnet now works. Thank you!
    While I'm on the topic of blocking ports the server administrator suggested running fail2ban which I am. Is this a good idea? Does fail2ban get along well with Synchronet BBS?

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.net
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Thu Oct 10 08:54:14 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 05:43 pm

    OK, so you're not a Sysop. Got it.

    This echo is for Sysops only.

    You're still trying to think. Try not to do that. You'll hurt yourself again.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.net
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Oct 10 08:55:58 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Wed Oct 09 2019 06:28 pm

    I thought Hustler was the sysop of Havens BBS? I've seen him talk about updating his Synchronet files, etc.. Marisa G may have set up Synchronet for him, but I think that's probably something she does on her BBS hosting servers.

    I am. Do you have any advice on fixing my BBS?? Maybe I'm in the wrong area?

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.net
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Thu Oct 10 08:59:07 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: mark lewis to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 11:51 pm

    they shouldn't be using any network ports... they're BBS doors and use a virtual com port... likely COM1... that virtual port is then connected to

    Thanks. I was just taking a guess. The problem as been resolved by echicken. Thanks for your input. I learn a lot from all they SySops here. :-)

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.net
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Oct 10 07:32:00 2019
    Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 05:43 pm

    Of course it matters. I didn't configure it when it was
    installed she did. Don't try and think too much. You might hurt
    yourself.

    OK, so you're not a Sysop. Got it.
    This echo is for Sysops only.

    I thought Hustler was the sysop of Havens BBS?

    Yeah, I thought so too, but his recent posts seem to indicate that
    'MarisaG' runs his system. He doesn't "configure" it and is
    therefore not responsible for why it doesn't work.

    I've seen him talk about updating his Synchronet files, etc..
    Marisa G may have set up Synchronet for him, but I think that's
    probably something she does on her BBS hosting servers.

    Yes, I guess she does the initial installation and then turns it
    over. But the Hustler has recently stated that he doesn't even go
    through all the options and settings (afterwards), and doesn't
    even check/edit obvious things like the various 'ini' files.

    <SHRUG>


    ... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Thu Oct 10 10:43:31 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Thu Oct 10 2019 07:32 am

    Yes, I guess she does the initial installation and then turns it
    over. But the Hustler has recently stated that he doesn't even go
    through all the options and settings (afterwards), and doesn't
    even check/edit obvious things like the various 'ini' files.

    Don't you think your getting carried away? Can you show a post where I that? Sounds like you're trying to "think" again. You've done that too many times and it looks like you've hurt yourself permanently. Many thanks to the smart thinking SysOps that were able to help me with the ftelnet problem.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.net
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Thu Oct 10 10:47:16 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Thu Oct 10 2019 07:32 am

    Yes, I guess she does the initial installation and then turns it
    over. But the Hustler has recently stated that he doesn't even go
    through all the options and settings (afterwards), and doesn't
    even check/edit obvious things like the various 'ini' files.

    Don't you think your getting carried away? Can you show a post where I said that? Sounds like you're trying to "think" again. You've done that too many times and it looks like you've hurt yourself permanently. Many thanks to the smart thinking SysOps that were able to help me with the ftelnet problem. Oh and MarisaG. Avoiding my emails is not going to solve things.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.net
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Lupine Furmen@1:103/705 to Marisag on Thu Oct 10 05:43:15 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Marisag to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 16:15:42

    Not when the BBS is installed and run on another SysOps server.

    Don't point that at me - I had updated your BBS and webv4 to the current
    one
    working and you told me not to update you anymore and now this happened.
    You
    can't tell me to not update you then complain when it gets broken... :(

    Oohh, You go gurl!!!!


    -Dallas Vinson
    Furmens Folly - telnet: loybbs.net:23
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to HusTler on Thu Oct 10 12:03:00 2019
    HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Yes, I guess she does the initial installation and then turns it
    over. But the Hustler has recently stated that he doesn't even go
    through all the options and settings (afterwards), and doesn't
    even check/edit obvious things like the various 'ini' files.

    Don't you think your getting carried away? Can you show a post
    where I said that?

    You've said it right here in this thread. Paraphrasing -
    "somebody else configured it, I didn't set it up".

    I understand that it's set up on a remote/cloud hosting site, and
    was "installed" by MarisaG. To me that would be just a starting
    point. I would still go over EVERY setting/config file and make
    sure it's what *I* (as the Sysop) wanted. Especially when you
    seem to keep having problems with everything. Take a step back
    and go through your system to make sure it's set up properly.
    Blaming somebody else for how *YOUR* BBS is configured is just....
    stupid.

    Sounds like you're trying to "think" again.
    You've done that too many times and it looks like you've hurt
    yourself permanently.

    Your personal insults only make you look worse than you already
    do...

    Many thanks to the smart thinking SysOps
    that were able to help me with the ftelnet problem. Oh and
    MarisaG. Avoiding my emails is not going to solve things.

    And once again.... Hustler's BBS problems become a public drama
    show. Seems like we've seen this before...


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to HusTler on Thu Oct 10 10:10:45 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: HusTler to Nightfox on Thu Oct 10 2019 08:55 am

    I thought Hustler was the sysop of Havens BBS? I've seen him talk
    about updating his Synchronet files, etc.. Marisa G may have set up
    Synchronet for him, but I think that's probably something she does on
    her BBS hosting servers.

    I am. Do you have any advice on fixing my BBS?? Maybe I'm in the wrong area?

    I haven't followed the thread thoroughly, but it sounded like it could have been a problem with the new user configuration (allowed emails per day set to 0 or something). If it's a configuration issue, I'd think you should be able to remote login to the machine and run SCFG to change the configuration.

    Nightfox

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  • From Al@1:103/705 to Marisag on Thu Oct 10 12:59:13 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Marisag to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 04:15 pm

    Sorry to step in on your thread.. :)

    Can you email me at agianson(at)gmail(dot)com? I have a new node app for GameNet to send your way but I have forgotten your email address.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to MARK LEWIS on Thu Oct 10 18:13:00 2019
    they shouldn't be using any network ports... they're BBS doors and use a virtual com port... likely COM1... that virtual port is then connected to
    the
    current connection stream... telnet, rlogin, or ssh depending on how the connection is made... if it is via a web interface, then the websockets come into play and that's been being explained to you recently...

    Some of them do use 10088 (???) to talk to JSON.

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  • From HusTler@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Oct 10 20:10:21 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Thu Oct 10 2019 10:10 am

    I haven't followed the thread thoroughly, but it sounded like it could have been a problem with the new user configuration (allowed emails per day set to 0 or something). If it's a configuration issue, I'd think you should be

    That was a different problem. That was an new user email setting. I've been having trouble with Ftelnet for 2 months now. Echicken solved the problem. I expected some help from MarisaG but never got it. Apparently I need to stop asking her for help. Thanks for your concern Nightfox. Some users feel I don't have the right to ask for help and question my SysOp status.That seems to be their primary conern. I'm expected to be experts like them. SysOps with Big Heads. Well I'm not and never pretended to be. I will however challenge any smart ass on Dovenet or any other network. I was the flamewars king and enjoy it a great deal. Bring it on! I live for it.

    HusTler

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 10 20:28:09 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: Mike Powell to MARK LEWIS on Thu Oct 10 2019 18:13:00

    they shouldn't be using any network ports... they're BBS doors and use a

    Some of them do use 10088 (???) to talk to JSON.

    Those are connecting to remote servers, not tying up that port inbound/locally. Some of them do have a server component, but that's defined in services.ini.

    Something might run its own server from xtrn/, but nothing I'm familiar with.

    In any event, the problem turned out to be a host or IP blacklist. Case closed. :D

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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to HusTler on Thu Oct 10 20:31:26 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to echicken on Thu Oct 10 2019 08:51:22

    blocking ports the server administrator suggested running fail2ban which
    I am. Is this a good idea?
    Does fail2ban get along well with Synchronet BBS?

    I don't use it personally, but I believe some other people around here do. Seems like it should work just fine with appropriate configuration (maybe somebody can share theirs). It'd be a bit redundant to the .can files, but could take some load off of Synchronet if your server gets hammered with bot traffic often.

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  • From Rampage@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 10 22:50:21 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: Mike Powell to MARK LEWIS on Thu Oct 10 2019 18:13:00

    they shouldn't be using any network ports... they're BBS doors and use a
    virtual com port... likely COM1... that virtual port is then connected to the current connection stream... telnet, rlogin, or ssh depending on how
    the connection is made... if it is via a web interface, then the
    websockets come into play and that's been being explained to you recently...

    Some of them do use 10088 (???) to talk to JSON.

    those are native js doors written for sbbs... not old-school dosemu using doors ;)


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  • From Marisag@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Oct 10 23:37:24 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Wed Oct 09 2019 18:28:10

    I thought Hustler was the sysop of Havens BBS? I've seen him talk about updating his Synchronet files, etc.. Marisa G may have set up Synchronet for him, but I think that's probably something she does on her BBS hosting servers.

    Yes, I set it up, and updated him to latest sbbs and webv4, but he complained and sait to not update his BBS in the future. Now he wants me to fix it which need to talk to EC about as telnet to his BBS works fine, just ftelnet isn't working...

    Marisa
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  • From Marisag@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Thu Oct 10 23:38:43 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: mark lewis to HusTler on Wed Oct 09 2019 23:51:06

    they shouldn't be using any network ports... they're BBS doors and use a virtual com port... likely COM1... that virtual port is then connected to

    The doors do not use any ports, correct...

    Marisa
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  • From Marisag@1:103/705 to HusTler on Thu Oct 10 23:40:41 2019
    Re: Ftelnet
    By: HusTler to echicken on Thu Oct 10 2019 08:51:22

    THAT WAS IT!! YOU GOT IT MR Echicken! 45.46.88.52 and 127.0.0.1 was in ip.can. I can now login to the BBS from the server command prompt and ftelnet now works. Thank you!

    Great! Glad that got sorted out!

    Marisa
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  • From Marisag@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Thu Oct 10 23:43:05 2019
    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Thu Oct 10 2019 07:32:00

    Yes, I guess she does the initial installation and then turns it
    over. But the Hustler has recently stated that he doesn't even go
    through all the options and settings (afterwards), and doesn't
    even check/edit obvious things like the various 'ini' files.

    I do the initial setup, and do updates upon request after that...

    Marisa
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  • From Marisag@1:103/705 to Al on Thu Oct 10 23:46:49 2019
    Re: GameNet
    By: Al to Marisag on Thu Oct 10 2019 12:59:13

    Can you email me at agianson(at)gmail(dot)com? I have a new node app for GameNet to send your way but I have forgotten your email address.

    Ok, sent a message...

    Marisa
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to echicken on Fri Oct 11 20:33:00 2019
    On 10-10-19 20:31, echicken wrote to HusTler <=-

    I don't use it personally, but I believe some other people around here
    do. Seems like it should work just fine with appropriate configuration (maybe somebody can share theirs). It'd be a bit redundant to the .can files, but could take some load off of Synchronet if your server gets hammered with bot traffic often.

    It would be good to see a SBBS configuration for fail2ban.


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