A coroner has ordered Hertfordshire County Council to take action over lorries parked for loading and unloading on a stretch of road near Tring after a cyclist sustained fatal injuries when he crashed into the back of
an HGV whose driver had stopped there ahead of it being unloaded.
https://road.cc/content/news/council-ordered-act-over-parked-hgvs-after-cyclist-killed-305025
A coroner has ordered Hertfordshire County Council to take action over lorries parked for loading and unloading on a stretch of road near Tring after a cyclist sustained fatal injuries when he crashed into the back of an HGV whose driver had stoppedthere ahead of it being unloaded.
David Andrews, aged 63 and from Berkhamsted, died in St George’s Hospital, south London, the day after the crash which happened at Cow Roast on the A4251 Tring Road on 11 July last year, reports HertsLive (link is external).constituted an “ongoing risk.”
Witnesses told a coroner’s inquest earlier this year that allowing HGVs to be loaded and unloaded at the location where the fatal crash took place was “an accident waiting to happen,” while a forensic collision investigator said that the practice
After recording a conclusion of death due to a road traffic collision at the inquest in July, assistant coroner Jacques Howell sent Hertfordshire County Council, which is the highways authority responsible for the stretch of road in question, aPrevention of Future Deaths Report (link is external).
“During the course of the inquest the evidence revealed matters giving rise to concern,” he wrote.
“In my opinion there is a risk that future deaths could occur unless action is taken. In the circumstances it is my statutory duty to report to you.”
The specific matter of concern he raised was “that on this particular stretch of road heavy goods vehicles are permitted to stop in order to unload, thereby effectively blocking the southbound carriageway.”
The report highlighted evidence presented to the inquest regarding the characteristics of road, as well as lorry drivers being permitted to park there for loading and unloading of goods to nearby commercial premises.
“At the location where the road traffic collision occurred, the road is single carriageway road, with one lane serving each direction,” the coroner noted in the report.
“The carriageway is 7 metres wide with each lane measuring approximately 3.1 metres in width with a double solid white line system with a gap between the lines of approximately 0.8 metres.
“Adjacent to the southbound lane is a grass verge, this gives way to an area of hard standing approximately 0.9 metres in width. A footpath is adjacent to the northbound lane.
“The speed limit at this point is 40mph, there are no parking restrictions and it is not a designated clearway.
“Photographs taken of the scene show that notwithstanding the heavy goods vehicle had stopped as far to the left as possible, the vehicle still took up nearly all of the southbound carriageway which bends to the right at this point,” the reportcontinued.
“Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as ‘ … an accident waiting to happen’.
“Evidence was also received from the Forensic Collision Investigator, who gave evidence that in his view the current ability for heavy goods vehicles to lawfully stop outside the commercial premises to unload represents an ongoing risk.”
A spokesperson for Hertfordshire County Council, quoted on HertsLive, said that the local authority had responded to the report, as it is required by law to do, and that the council is planning to implement a ban.
“In light of the issues highlighted by the coroner’s report, we are looking to introduce a ban on lorries loading and unloading on this stretch of the A4251,” the spokesperson said.
“We hope to begin the statutory and consultation processes needed to introduce these restrictions in the near future,” they added.
https://road.cc/content/news/council-ordered-act-over-parked-hgvs-after-cyclist-killed-305025
Secret_squirrel | 2 hours ago
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But will the restrictions be enforced.....?
Judging from the description and the state of the photos its here abouts:
https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/Screenshot%202023-11-10%20at%2014.26.31.png
On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 5:08:36 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
Secret_squirrel | 2 hours ago
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But will the restrictions be enforced.....?
Judging from the description and the state of the photos its here abouts:
https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/Screenshot%202023-11-10%20at%2014.26.31.png
QUOTE: A spokesperson for Hertfordshire County Council, quoted on
HertsLive, said that the local authority had responded to the report, as
it is required by law to do, and that the council is planning to implement a ban.
“In light of the issues highlighted by the coroner’s report, we are looking to introduce a ban on lorries loading and unloading on this
stretch of the A4251,” the spokesperson said. ENDS
Well done - that wasn't too hard, was it?
Flâneur | 18 min ago
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It's already illegal to park (or stop) on a road with double white lines FFS
https://www.southyorks.police.uk/find-out/crime-prevention-advice/road-safety/parking-on-double-white-lines/
Why can't the relevant authorities know this and enforce the law?
On 10/11/2023 04:40 pm, Spike wrote:
One might have to ask why the cyclist failed to see an HGV parked so as to >> almost block the lane.
This cyclist didn’t see a parked car, in good daylight with no weather
problems. He just wasn’t looking, as is clear from the video:
<https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9OrKLGEOVRA>
Ouch!
No matter how many times you see that, it always shocks (and one can
almost feel the pain... of the vehicle's owner).
Still, the chav's fridge-freezer insurance probably covered the damage. Assuming the chav on the chav-bike accepted liability, of course.
Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
A coroner has ordered Hertfordshire County Council to take action over
lorries parked for loading and unloading on a stretch of road near Tring >>> after a cyclist sustained fatal injuries when he crashed into the back of >>> an HGV whose driver had stopped there ahead of it being unloaded.
[…]
https://road.cc/content/news/council-ordered-act-over-parked-hgvs-after-cyclist-killed-305025
One might have to ask why the cyclist failed to see an HGV parked so as to almost block the lane.
This cyclist didn’t see a parked car, in good daylight with no weather problems. He just wasn’t looking, as is clear from the video:
<https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9OrKLGEOVRA>
Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
A coroner has ordered Hertfordshire County Council to take action over
lorries parked for loading and unloading on a stretch of road near Tring
after a cyclist sustained fatal injuries when he crashed into the back of
an HGV whose driver had stopped there ahead of it being unloaded.
[…]
https://road.cc/content/news/council-ordered-act-over-parked-hgvs-after-cyclist-killed-305025
QUOTE: eburtthebike | 19 hours ago
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We need a complete new system for road safety, by analysing the risk
before someone is killed, not after. ENDS
A coroner deciding that a road should be NO PARKING *IS* a new system!
CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE DEATH
Mr Andrews was a keen cyclist and had been interested in cycling for
about 10 years. On 11 July 2022, he was cycling south along the A4251,
Tring Road, where he collided with a stationary heavy good vehicle which
had stopped outside commercial premises waiting to unload. Sadly, he
suffered significant traumatic injuries from which he did not recover,
and he died on 12 July 2022 at St George’s Hospital, London.
The inquest received evidence that:
· At the location where the road traffic collision occurred, the
road is single carriageway road, with one lane serving each direction.
The carriageway is 7 metres wide with each lane measuring approximately
3.1 metres in width with a
double solid white line system with a gap between the lines of
approximately 0.8 metres. Adjacent to the southbound lane is a grass
verge, this gives way to an area of hard standing approximately 0.9
metres in width. A footpath is adjacent to the northbound lane.
· The speed limit at this point is 40mph, there are no parking restrictions and it is not a designated clearway.
· Photographs taken of the scene show that notwithstanding the
heavy goods vehicle had stopped as far to the left as possible, the
vehicle still took up nearly all of the southbound carriageway which
bends to the right at this point.
· Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound
carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as “…an accident waiting to happen.”
· Evidence was also received from the Forensic Collision
Investigator, who gave evidence that in his view the current ability for heavy goods vehicles to lawfully stop outside the commercial premises to unload represents an ongoing risk.
ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN
In my opinion action should be taken to prevent future deaths and I
believe your organisation have the power to take such action.
7 YOUR RESPONSE
You are under a duty to respond to this report within 56 days of the date
of this report, namely by 18 October 2023. I, the coroner, may extend the period.
Your response must contain details of action taken or proposed to be
taken, setting out the timetable for action. Otherwise you must explain
why no action is proposed
https://www.judiciary.uk/prevention-of-future-death-reports/david-andrews-prevention-of-future-deaths-report/
The article below carefully avoids any mention of why the cyclist cycled
into the back of the lorry.
As the lorry was parked, i.e. not moving, the only possible conclusion is that the cyclist cycled into the back of the lorry, not having been aware
of its presence at least until far to late to take avoiding action, such as braking to a controlled stop or swerving round it.
None of this as addressed, mentioned, or even alluded to in the report. One might think that this not satisfactory. People are not supposed to walk, wheel, cycle, or drive into stationary objects.
There is no also no mention of a safety helmet.
Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE DEATH
Mr Andrews was a keen cyclist and had been interested in cycling for
about 10 years. On 11 July 2022, he was cycling south along the A4251,
Tring Road, where he collided with a stationary heavy good vehicle which
had stopped outside commercial premises waiting to unload. Sadly, he
suffered significant traumatic injuries from which he did not recover,
and he died on 12 July 2022 at St George’s Hospital, London.
The inquest received evidence that:
· At the location where the road traffic collision occurred, the
road is single carriageway road, with one lane serving each direction.
The carriageway is 7 metres wide with each lane measuring approximately
3.1 metres in width with a
double solid white line system with a gap between the lines of
approximately 0.8 metres. Adjacent to the southbound lane is a grass
verge, this gives way to an area of hard standing approximately 0.9
metres in width. A footpath is adjacent to the northbound lane.
· The speed limit at this point is 40mph, there are no parking
restrictions and it is not a designated clearway.
· Photographs taken of the scene show that notwithstanding the
heavy goods vehicle had stopped as far to the left as possible, the
vehicle still took up nearly all of the southbound carriageway which
bends to the right at this point.
· Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound
carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as “…an
accident waiting to happen.”
· Evidence was also received from the Forensic Collision
Investigator, who gave evidence that in his view the current ability for
heavy goods vehicles to lawfully stop outside the commercial premises to
unload represents an ongoing risk.
ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN
In my opinion action should be taken to prevent future deaths and I
believe your organisation have the power to take such action.
7 YOUR RESPONSE
You are under a duty to respond to this report within 56 days of the date
of this report, namely by 18 October 2023. I, the coroner, may extend the period.
Your response must contain details of action taken or proposed to be
taken, setting out the timetable for action. Otherwise you must explain
why no action is proposed
https://www.judiciary.uk/prevention-of-future-death-reports/david-andrews-prevention-of-future-deaths-report/
Ping JNugent
Not knowing much at all about Coroner’s Reports, are they available for public scrutiny, preferably online? Or are they stuck in some Victorian time-warp of ‘the peasants don’t need to know’, and hence difficult to get?
Spike
Spike <aero.spike@btinternet.invalid> wrote:
The article below carefully avoids any mention of why the cyclist cycled
into the back of the lorry.
As the lorry was parked, i.e. not moving, the only possible conclusion is
that the cyclist cycled into the back of the lorry, not having been aware
of its presence at least until far to late to take avoiding action, such as >> braking to a controlled stop or swerving round it.
None of this as addressed, mentioned, or even alluded to in the report. One >> might think that this not satisfactory. People are not supposed to walk,
wheel, cycle, or drive into stationary objects.
There is no also no mention of a safety helmet.
Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE DEATH
Mr Andrews was a keen cyclist and had been interested in cycling for
about 10 years. On 11 July 2022, he was cycling south along the A4251,
Tring Road, where he collided with a stationary heavy good vehicle which >>> had stopped outside commercial premises waiting to unload. Sadly, he
suffered significant traumatic injuries from which he did not recover,
and he died on 12 July 2022 at St George’s Hospital, London.
The inquest received evidence that:
· At the location where the road traffic collision occurred, the
road is single carriageway road, with one lane serving each direction.
The carriageway is 7 metres wide with each lane measuring approximately
3.1 metres in width with a
double solid white line system with a gap between the lines of
approximately 0.8 metres. Adjacent to the southbound lane is a grass
verge, this gives way to an area of hard standing approximately 0.9
metres in width. A footpath is adjacent to the northbound lane.
· The speed limit at this point is 40mph, there are no parking
restrictions and it is not a designated clearway.
· Photographs taken of the scene show that notwithstanding the
heavy goods vehicle had stopped as far to the left as possible, the
vehicle still took up nearly all of the southbound carriageway which
bends to the right at this point.
· Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound
carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as “…an
accident waiting to happen.”
· Evidence was also received from the Forensic Collision
Investigator, who gave evidence that in his view the current ability for >>> heavy goods vehicles to lawfully stop outside the commercial premises to >>> unload represents an ongoing risk.
ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN
In my opinion action should be taken to prevent future deaths and I
believe your organisation have the power to take such action.
7 YOUR RESPONSE
You are under a duty to respond to this report within 56 days of the date >>> of this report, namely by 18 October 2023. I, the coroner, may extend the period.
Your response must contain details of action taken or proposed to be
taken, setting out the timetable for action. Otherwise you must explain
why no action is proposed
https://www.judiciary.uk/prevention-of-future-death-reports/david-andrews-prevention-of-future-deaths-report/
CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE DEATHwaiting to unload. Sadly, he suffered significant traumatic injuries from which he did not recover, and he died on 12 July 2022 at St George’s Hospital, London.
Mr Andrews was a keen cyclist and had been interested in cycling for about 10 years. On 11 July 2022, he was cycling south along the A4251, Tring Road, where he collided with a stationary heavy good vehicle which had stopped outside commercial premises
The inquest received evidence that:northbound lane.
· At the location where the road traffic collision occurred, the road is single carriageway road, with one lane serving each direction. The carriageway is 7 metres wide with each lane measuring approximately 3.1 metres in width with a
double solid white line system with a gap between the lines of approximately 0.8 metres. Adjacent to the southbound lane is a grass verge, this gives way to an area of hard standing approximately 0.9 metres in width. A footpath is adjacent to the
· The speed limit at this point is 40mph, there are no parking restrictions and it is not a designated clearway.
· Photographs taken of the scene show that notwithstanding the heavy goods vehicle had stopped as far to the left as possible, the vehicle still took up nearly all of the southbound carriageway which bends to the right at this point.
· Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as “…an accident waiting to happen.”
· Evidence was also received from the Forensic Collision Investigator, who gave evidence that in his view the current ability for heavy goods vehicles to lawfully stop outside the commercial premises to unload represents an ongoing risk.
ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN
In my opinion action should be taken to prevent future deaths and I believe your organisation have the power to take such action.
7 YOUR RESPONSE
You are under a duty to respond to this report within 56 days of the date of this report, namely by 18 October 2023. I, the coroner, may extend the period.
Your response must contain details of action taken or proposed to be taken, setting out the timetable for action. Otherwise you must explain why no action is proposed
https://www.judiciary.uk/prevention-of-future-death-reports/david-andrews-prevention-of-future-deaths-report/
Flâneur | 18 min ago
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It's already illegal to park (or stop) on a road with double white lines FFS
https://www.southyorks.police.uk/find-out/crime-prevention-advice/road-safety/parking-on-double-white-lines/
Why can't the relevant authorities know this and enforce the law?
On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 6:08:51 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
Flâneur | 18 min ago
It's already illegal to park (or stop) on a road with double white lines FFS >> https://www.southyorks.police.uk/find-out/crime-prevention-advice/road-safety/parking-on-double-white-lines/
Why can't the relevant authorities know this and enforce the law?
Here is the relevant law: https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/Screenshot%202023-11-12%20at%2008.08.30.png
Flâneur | 18 min ago
0 likes
It's already illegal to park (or stop) on a road with double white lines FFS
https://www.southyorks.police.uk/find-out/crime-prevention-advice/road-safety/parking-on-double-white-lines/
Why can't the relevant authorities know this and enforce the law?
ktache | 1 day ago
4 likes
My thoughts are with the family and friends of David.
QUOTE: Hertfordshire County Council has confirmed it is looking into a
ban on lorries loading and unloading near where the incident took place.ENDS
*******AH - IT'S THE COUNCIL THAT WILL IMPOSE THE BAN - NOT THE CORONER. *******
https://www.hemeltoday.co.uk/news/politics/council/coroner-says-council-must-act-after-death-of-a-cyclist-in-cow-roast-near-tring-4405077
A coroner has said Hertfordshire County Council must act after the death
of a cyclist in Cow Roast. Jacques Howell, the county's assistant
coroner, has said road users could be at risk because heavy goods
vehicles are allowed to stop and unload on the A4251 Tring Road.
A coroner has said Hertfordshire County Council must act after the death of a cyclist in Cow Roast. Jacques Howell, the county's assistant coroner, has said road users could be at risk because heavy goods vehicles are allowed to stop and unload on theA4251 Tring Road.
Berkhamsted cyclist David Andrews, aged 63, died at St George’s Hospital in London on July 12, 2022 after a crash on the route the day before. Hertfordshire County Council has confirmed it is looking into a ban on lorries loading and unloading nearwhere the incident took place.
After an inquest which took place earlier this year, the assistant coroner issued a Prevention of Future Deaths report. "The inquest received evidence that ... heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound carriageway in order to unload, andwitnesses have described this as 'an accident waiting to happen'," Mr Howell wrote.
"Evidence was also received from the forensic collision investigator, who gave evidence that in his view the current ability for heavy goods vehicles to lawfully stop outside the commercial premises to unload represents an ongoing risk." He added: "MrAndrews was a keen cyclist and had been interested in cycling for about 10 years.
"On July 11, 2022, he was cycling south along the A4251, Tring Road, where he collided with a stationary heavy goods vehicle which had stopped outside commercial premises waiting to unload. Sadly, he suffered significant traumatic injuries from whichhe did not recover, and he died on July 12, 2022 at St George’s Hospital."
According to the report, the stationary HGV involved was stopped "as far to the left as possible", but it still took up "nearly all of the southbound carriageway, which bends to the right at this point". The assistant coroner said: "In my opinion,action should be taken to prevent future deaths and I believe your organisation have the power to take such action."
A Hertfordshire County Council spokesperson confirmed the authority has responded to Mr Howell, which it had a duty to do. The spokesperson said: "In light of the issues highlighted by the coroner’s report, we are looking to introduce a ban onlorries loading and unloading on this stretch of the A4251. We hope to begin the statutory and consultation processes needed to introduce these restrictions in the near future."
QUOTE: "In my opinion, action should be taken to prevent future deaths
and I believe your organisation have the power to take such action." ENDS
You believe correctly - Hertfordshire County Council does INDEED have the power to impose parking restrictions.
It's what they do.
QUOTE: Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as “…an accident waiting to happen.”ENDS
Well done HCC - you have a stunning understanding of the risk assessment system - STEP ONE - REMOVE THE HAZARD...
QUOTE: Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as “…an accident waiting to happen.”ENDS
Well done HCC - you have a stunning understanding of the risk assessment system - STEP ONE - REMOVE THE HAZARD.
https://sitemate.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Hierarchy-of-risk-control-4.png
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:32:20 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
QUOTE: Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound
carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as
“…an accident waiting to happen.”ENDS
Well done HCC - you have a stunning understanding of the risk assessment
system - STEP ONE - REMOVE THE HAZARD.
https://sitemate.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Hierarchy-of-risk-control-4.png
Wearing plastic hats comes dead last.
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:32:20 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
QUOTE: Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as “…an accident waiting to happen.”ENDS
Well done HCC - you have a stunning understanding of the risk assessment system - STEP ONE - REMOVE THE HAZARD.
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:44:59 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:32:20 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
QUOTE: Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound
carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as
“…an accident waiting to happen.”ENDS
Well done HCC - you have a stunning understanding of the risk
assessment system - STEP ONE - REMOVE THE HAZARD.
QUESTION.
What safety policy has a council implemented here?
https://road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/schema_org/public/anpr-protected-ltn-lb-ealing.jpeg
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:44:59 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:32:20 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
QUOTE: Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as “…an accident waiting to happen.”ENDS
QUESTION.Well done HCC - you have a stunning understanding of the risk assessment system - STEP ONE - REMOVE THE HAZARD.
What safety policy has a council implemented here?
https://road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/schema_org/public/anpr-protected-ltn-lb-ealing.jpeg
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:35:20 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:44:59 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:32:20 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:QUESTION.
QUOTE: Heavy goods vehicles frequently park on the southbound
carriageway in order to unload, and witnesses have described this as
“…an accident waiting to happen.”ENDS
Well done HCC - you have a stunning understanding of the risk
assessment system - STEP ONE - REMOVE THE HAZARD.
What safety policy has a council implemented here?
https://road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/schema_org/public/anpr-protected-ltn-lb-ealing.jpeg
Correct - "NO MOTOR VEHICLES". Remove the hazard.
QUESTION TWO:
What safety feature has the local council installed here?
https://d1gymyavdvyjgt.cloudfront.net/drive/images/uploads/headers/ws_cropper/1_51x179_623x300_0x520_ltn_funding.jpg
QUESTION TWO:
What safety feature has the local council installed here?
https://d1gymyavdvyjgt.cloudfront.net/drive/images/uploads/headers/ws_cropper/1_51x179_623x300_0x520_ltn_funding.jpg
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 8:12:47 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
QUESTION TWO:
What safety feature has the local council installed here?
https://d1gymyavdvyjgt.cloudfront.net/drive/images/uploads/headers/ws_cropper/1_51x179_623x300_0x520_ltn_funding.jpg
Correct - it's a Low Traffic Neighbourhood that keeps out boy racers and Wankpanzers so that kids, animals, elderly and disabled don't get mown down.
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 8:12:47 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
QUESTION TWO:
What safety feature has the local council installed here?
https://d1gymyavdvyjgt.cloudfront.net/drive/images/uploads/headers/ws_cropper/1_51x179_623x300_0x520_ltn_funding.jpgCorrect - it's a Low Traffic Neighbourhood that keeps out boy racers and Wankpanzers so that kids, animals, elderly and disabled don't get mown down.
On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 7:31:19 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
fallen.On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 8:12:47 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
QUESTION TWO:
What safety feature has the local council installed here?
https://d1gymyavdvyjgt.cloudfront.net/drive/images/uploads/headers/ws_cropper/1_51x179_623x300_0x520_ltn_funding.jpgCorrect - it's a Low Traffic Neighbourhood that keeps out boy racers and Wankpanzers so that kids, animals, elderly and disabled don't get mown down.
Their primary benefit is reducing air and noise pollution through the reduction of through-traffic. They also encourage more people to walk and cycle – and DfT statistics have shown that in areas where LTNs have ben introduced, crime rates have
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 8:12:47 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
QUESTION TWO:
What safety feature has the local council installed here?
https://d1gymyavdvyjgt.cloudfront.net/drive/images/uploads/headers/ws_cropper/1_51x179_623x300_0x520_ltn_funding.jpg
Correct - it's a Low Traffic Neighbourhood that keeps out boy racers and Wankpanzers so that kids, animals, elderly and disabled don't get mown down.
Low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) reduce traffic and air pollution
without displacing the problem to nearby streets, new research has shown.
The study by researchers at Imperial College London looked at three LTNs
in London, to identify their impact on both air pollution and traffic
within the LTN zones and in the surrounding area.
The researchers studied three LTNs in Islington, one of London’s most densely populated boroughs, which were put in place during 2020.
The team compared pollution and traffic levels at monitoring stations
inside the zones, on streets surrounding the zones, and at control sites further away, using data gathered by Islington Borough Council.
Using this analysis, the researchers found that concentrations of
nitrogen dioxide fell by 5.7 percent within the LTNs and by just under
nine percent on their boundaries, compared to the control sites. They
also found that traffic dropped by over half inside the LTNs and by 13 percent at the boundaries, compared to the controls.
Co-author, Imperial College London PhD student Helen Yang added: “This is the first study to use a robust statistical approach to show the impact
of LTNs on surrounding areas, and the results are really encouraging. We worked with a relatively small data set and further research is now
needed to confirm these findings at a larger scale.”
Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
Low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) reduce traffic and air pollution
without displacing the problem to nearby streets, new research has shown.
The study by researchers at Imperial College London looked at three LTNs
in London, to identify their impact on both air pollution and traffic
within the LTN zones and in the surrounding area.
The first question to ask here is: what was the source of the funding for this work?
QUOTE:government’s index of multiple deprivation, down to micro-areas of about 300 residents. ENDS
But the new study, led by Rachel Aldred, a professor of transport at Westminster University in London, uses detailed and sophisticated data to compare streets, including occupants’ age, ethnicity, disability, employment and car ownership, and the
Low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) reduce traffic and air pollution
without displacing the problem to nearby streets, new research has shown.
The LTNs – in St Peter’s, Canonbury and Clerkenwell – were put in place between July and September 2020. The team analysed data gathered from
July 2019 to February 2021. The research is published in Transportation Research Part D.
Because each of the LTNs was set up at a different time and not all monitoring sites gathered data continuously, averaging out the results between the three LTNs would not provide an accurate overall picture. So
the team carried out a more complex statistical analysis.
government’s index of multiple deprivation, down to micro-areas of about 300 residents. ENDSQUOTE:
But the new study, led by Rachel Aldred, a professor of transport at Westminster University in London, uses detailed and sophisticated data to compare streets, including occupants’ age, ethnicity, disability, employment and car ownership, and the
I showed Rachel around the cycling facilities in Hull in 2006 when we had 140 20mph zones around the city.speed reduction implemented throughout the city. ENDS
QUOTE: A council spokesperson says: "Hull City Council has been a pioneer in implementing speed reduction methods. From the mid 1990’s, the council has embarked on a sustained programme of three main schemes that have made our roads safer and seen
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/every-road-hull-cut-20mph-2388710
On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 8:04:12 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
QUOTE:
But the new study, led by Rachel Aldred, a professor of transport at
Westminster University in London, uses detailed and sophisticated data
to compare streets, including occupants’ age, ethnicity, disability,
employment and car ownership, and the government’s index of multiple
deprivation, down to micro-areas of about 300 residents. ENDS
I showed Rachel around the cycling facilities in Hull in 2006 when we
had 140 20mph zones around the city.
QUOTE: A council spokesperson says: "Hull City Council has been a
pioneer in implementing speed reduction methods. From the mid 1990’s,
the council has embarked on a sustained programme of three main schemes
that have made our roads safer and seen speed reduction implemented
throughout the city. ENDS
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/every-road-hull-cut-20mph-2388710
From 1994, there was a widespread introduction of 20mph zones in Hull,
and by 2003, there were 120 zones
covering 500 streets. The casualty statistics between 1994 and 2001
showed a drop of 14% in Hull, compared
to a rise of 1.5% in the rest of Yorkshire and Humberside. In the 20mph
zones in Hull, there was a decrease in
total accidents of 56% and in fatal and serious injuries of 90%. The
biggest reductions were pedestrian
casualties, which fell by 54%, child casualties, which dropped by 54% and child pedestrian casualties, which fell
by 74%. These figures were reported in Local Transport Today.
QUOTE: It comes as Cllr Paul West's call to implement 20mph zones where needed was backed at the same meeting East Riding Council's full meeting. Cllr West said it was part of the Safer Roads Humber push towards getting zero deaths on local roads.
QUOTE: It comes as Cllr Paul West's call to implement 20mph zones where needed was backed at the same meeting East Riding Council's full meeting. Cllr West said it was part of the Safer Roads Humber push towards getting zero deaths on local roads.
Cllr Hammond said: "North Dalton is a beautiful village. It has a great pub, village hall, pond and church.
"All of which are sadly located on a very tight bend in the centre of the village. The layout of this bend dictates that any sensible driver would not go around it at the allowed 30mph speed limit.
"But many do, and we regularly get complaints of vehicles crashing into walls and gardens. There's also high pedestrian footfall, so it should be 20mph.ENDS
A huge row is raging in Wales after a controversial 20mph speed limit was brought in on residential roads. Supporters say it will save lives and reduce pollution, while opponents argue it will have a negative impact on businesses and the economy.limit has been set at 20mph for many years.
So how would people feel if the 30mph speed limit was reduced to 20mph on residential roads in Hull and other urban areas around East Yorkshire? To find out, BBC Look North spoke to a driving instructor and people in Newland Avenue, where the speed
While there are no plans to bring in such a blanket change in England, councils have long had to consider reducing speed limits in streets where road safety is an issue. But while some Hull people welcomed the idea of more 20mph zones, others describedit as a "war on motorists".
Paula, a driving instructor who regularly takes learners on 20mph roads, said: "Some people will think that it is overly cautious and I guess it depends where they roll it out. If a child or a person was knocked over at 20 miles an hour, they're goingto stand much more chance of surviving, probably up to like 95 per cent."
Asked if the 20mph speed limit in Newland Avenue had made a difference, one local woman said she thought it made it safer, but "ultimately there are still more cars on the streets". She added: "A lot of kids don't play out like they used to."lives and 20,000 casualties in the first decade, while saving the NHS in Wales £92 million a year.
Another woman said: "I think it's good in principle, but I don't think people will stick to the 20 miles per hour."
One male driver said he tried to avoid Newland Avenue because of the 20mph limit. "There's a lot of congestion," he added. "It's already hard to park. People are just using the off streets as cut-throughs.
In Wales, nearly 400,000 people have signed a petition to rescind the new 20mph law, amid claims from some motorists that it is causing "gridlock" and is "completely disorganised". However, the Welsh government says the measure will save up to 100
In England, the Liberal Democrats say they would back moves to reduce speed limits in local communities, if it can be shown that there is public support for the measure. Sir Ed Davy, the Lib Dem leader, told reporter Tim Iredale that people who hadbeen consulted on the idea in his constituency liked the idea of reduced air polliution and increased road safety, particularly families living around schools.
Comments sent in to Look North suggest that the issue will continue to divide opinion. Daniel said: "I agree with the 20mph zone but in reality it will not be policed. Don't hold your breath for this to be a success."
Hull has implemented 20 MPH zones, selecting areas based on speeding-related collisions. From 1994 there was widespread introduction
of 20mph zones in Hull with 120 zones covering 500 streets in place by
2003. As a result in these areas there was a decrease in total accidents
of 56%, with fatal and serious injuries reducing by 90% Pedestrian
casualties fell by 54%. (BCC September 13 Briefing, p. 3)
Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
Hull has implemented 20 MPH zones, selecting areas based on
speeding-related collisions. From 1994 there was widespread introduction
of 20mph zones in Hull with 120 zones covering 500 streets in place by
2003. As a result in these areas there was a decrease in total accidents
of 56%, with fatal and serious injuries reducing by 90% Pedestrian
casualties fell by 54%. (BCC September 13 Briefing, p. 3)
But what was the fall in traffic?
Without that information the above numbers mean nothing.
Hull has implemented 20 MPH zones, selecting areas based on speeding-related collisions. From 1994 there was widespread introduction of 20mph zones in Hull with 120 zones covering 500 streets in place by 2003. As a result in these areas therewas a decrease in total accidents of 56%, with fatal and serious injuries reducing by 90% Pedestrian casualties fell by 54%. (BCC September 13 Briefing, p. 3)
A grandmother has called for speed bumps on a Hull road after witnessing a number of crashes.
Anne Smith, who lives off Runnymede Lane in Kingswood, said drivers were regularly exceeding the 20mph limit
and some were abusive when challenged.
She is appealing for speed bumps, more signs, crossings and other measures. Hull City Council said speeding regulations were in place but it would always work with local people to address any concerns.
The 69-year-old said she feared for her grandchildren's safety, saying she had seen drivers lose control of their cars.
"We're not just talking about people doing 24mph, there's people doing 40mph or 50mph," she told the Local Democracy Reporting Service.
"We've had someone ram into a road sign in Runnymede Lane at 06:00 in the morning, because they were driving too fast.
"From my kitchen window, I've also seen a car skid and do a 360-degree turn, and then just drove off. People here have been bringing these issues up more and more.
"There's nowhere safe for children to cross the road, if they're going to the primary schools of Kingswood Academy there's nowhere safe for them to cross on Runnymede Lane because there's no straight stretches."
Ms Smith said that people suffered abuse when they signalled to the cars to slow down.
"When I've put my hand out to drivers going too fast, I've had effing and blinding, swearing and all sorts," she said.
"But it's not just boy racers doing this, it could be anyone. It tends to happen from about 06.30 to 08.30. Some of the drivers have been women doing the school run.
The council said safety works had been done on roads in the area and the authority was aware of concerns.
"Several areas of Kingswood are subject to a Traffic Regulation Order (TRO), making side streets 20mph, and main spine routes 30mph," a spokesperson said.
"The council is aware of the need to monitor traffic and speeding issues as Kingswood expands. It will always look to work with residents to address their concerns."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-66325847
QUOTE: "When I've put my hand out to drivers going too fast, I've had
effing and blinding, swearing and all sorts," she said. ENDS
Surely you don't think they will care about mowing children down?
It's what they do.
Every day.
A PROFESSOR of sustainable transport and former Green Party election
council candidate has called on Herefordshire to adopt the Wales-wide approach to 20mph residential speed limits.
A PROFESSOR of sustainable transport and former Green Party election council candidate has called on Herefordshire to adopt the Wales-wide approach to 20mph residential speed limits.injuries.
The move by John Whitelegg, visiting professor of sustainable transport at Liverpool John Moores University comes as Public Health England rates Herefordshire as “significantly worse than the England average” for road-related deaths and serious
Professor Whitelegg, who stood unsuccessfully for the Greens in Arrow ward in May,
is organising a public meeting in Hereford next week in a bid to build support for the idea.
A House of Commons report, reducing the speed limit from 30 to 20mph can drastically decrease the likelihood of pedestrian fatalities from collisions, he says, with the odds dropping from one in two to one in ten.
John Whitelegg said: “Herefordshire Council agreed to support the 20mph policy in March 2020, but 41 months later there is no sign of implementation.”
While the Welsh Government is set to enforce 20mph limits in built-up areas from September 20, citing both public health and safety benefits, England is no stranger to such restrictions.
Over 20 million residents in England, including those in Lancashire, Oxfordshire, and Cornwall, already reside in 20mph zones.
John Harrington, the county’s head of transport in November 2021, mentioned that the initiative had not been advanced “due to resource constraints”.witnessed a 42 per cent reduction in injury accidents and a 53 per cent drop in fatal or serious accidents.
Local trials were conducted in areas like Cusop and Pembridge.
The Welsh Conservative Twitter account voiced its opinion on the matter, stating, “Welsh Conservatives support 20mph speed limits in heavily pedestrianised areas, but a blanket 20mph speed limits across Wales is simply ludicrous.”
In addition, a consultation report commissioned by the Welsh Government, said the move in Wales could cost the national economy up to £4.5 billion over the next 30 years, due to slower delivery times and other factors.
Safety is the main argument for the policy. Data from Hull, where 20mph zones were introduced extensively, showed a 56 per cent decrease in total accidents by 2003 and a 90 per cent reduction in fatal and serious injuries. London’s 20mph zones also
Air quality is another factor. While driving at 30mph is more fuel-efficient than 20mph, the reality in residential areas is different due to frequent stops and starts. Research from Imperial College London found that 20mph speed limits had no negativeimpact on exhaust emissions, with smoother driving resulting in fewer particulate emissions.
These particulate emissions, especially PM2.5, are of significant concern as they can penetrate the lungs and enter the bloodstream, potentially leading to various health conditions.
The cost of implementing the 20mph limit, estimated at £32.5 million, is anticipated to be quickly offset by the economic savings from reduced road casualties.
An East Riding village plagued by regular car crashes into people's walls and gardens is among those where the speed limit should be lowered to 20mph, a councillor has said.
Conservative Cllr Leo Hammond said the B1246's sharp bend through North Dalton was an example of where 20mph limits were needed as councillors backed calls to extend them. [ ... ]
Opposition to Wirral’s new 20mph zones is growing louder as a new
petition calls for Wirral Council to reverse its plans.
A study looking at the Portsmouth scheme did find perceptions were mixed
with 54% saying there had been no change in people’s speed but 40% said they had dropped. However, decreases in casualties on roads in Portsmouth
was 8% more than the national average.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/opposition-grows-new-petition-launched-27461139
A road in the UK sees more than 8,000 drivers using it each day with over half of them breaking the speed limit.
A staggering 4,320 drivers each day on the A164 Willerby bypass near Hull failed to stick to the 40mph speed limit.
And the nearby Cowick Road in Snaith, in the East Riding of Yorkshire had 79.3 per cent of drivers failing to adhere to the 30mph limit and 3,157 drivers speeding each day.
The average speed by motorists is 40.5mph which is 10mph above the legal limit.
It comes as rules around breaking the speed limit were changed in a so-called ‘stealth’ move that has seen thousands of drivers face fines.
The Met Police slashed its speed tolerance by 1mph, triggering a reported 259 per cent increase in the number of drivers who will be punished for breaking the speed limit.
Driving at any speed over the limit is illegal but police guidelines previously stipulated that drivers should be given some leeway.
Guidelines used the formula that motorists wouldn’t face action unless they broke the speed limit by ten per cent plus 3mph.
But the Met quietly dropped to 10 per cent plus 2mph.
Under the ten per cent plus 3mph rule you could drive 25mph in a 20mph zone before facing punishment.
Under the Met Police's change, a motorist in a 20mph limit can now expect to get away with driving at 24mph before they receive a fixed penalty or are sent on a speed awareness course.
Around 347,000 drivers have been warned they will be prosecuted for speeding in the first six months of 2022.
A Met Police spokesman said: “Posted speed limits are the maximum speed that road users should travel at any time ... irrespective of the speed threshold that police commence enforcement action.”
However the change only applies to the Met Police and other forces such as Lancashire Police, still use the ‘plus 3mph’ formula.
However, despite this enforcement across the country could become stricter with the National Police Chiefs Council saying they intended to review its guidance.
On 17/11/2023 07:49 am, Simon Mason wrote:
A road in the UK sees more than 8,000 drivers using it each day with
over half of them breaking the speed limit.
A staggering 4,320 drivers each day on the A164 Willerby bypass near
Hull failed to stick to the 40mph speed limit.
And the nearby Cowick Road in Snaith, in the East Riding of Yorkshire
had 79.3 per cent of drivers failing to adhere to the 30mph limit and
3,157 drivers speeding each day.
The average speed by motorists is 40.5mph which is 10mph above the legal limit.
It comes as rules around breaking the speed limit were changed in a
so-called ‘stealth’ move that has seen thousands of drivers face fines. >>
The Met Police slashed its speed tolerance by 1mph, triggering a
reported 259 per cent increase in the number of drivers who will be
punished for breaking the speed limit.
Driving at any speed over the limit is illegal but police guidelines
previously stipulated that drivers should be given some leeway.
Guidelines used the formula that motorists wouldn’t face action unless
they broke the speed limit by ten per cent plus 3mph.
But the Met quietly dropped to 10 per cent plus 2mph.
It has been that = 110% + 2 - for some years. ACPO guidance.
Police in Burnley have issued parking and speeding tickets as part of an enforcement crackdown.
Officers in the Queensgate area of the town were joined by ticket enforcement officers on patrol last week, resulting in three parking tickets being issued.
They also carried out speed gun checks along Colne Road and Briercliffe Road and handed out eight speeding tickets to driver exceeding the limit.
Neighbourhood inspector for Burnley Rob Grey said: “We are continuing to work closely with out partners to carry out activity and community concerns raised to us.
“We are committed to engaging with our communities and would encourage people to keep reporting issues to us by taking our Lancashire Talking survey.
"They can also sign up to In The Know to receive updates about their area.”
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/23920326.burnley-speeding-parking-tickets-issued-crackdown/
THE police have made one arrest and issued more than a dozen tickets or warnings after carrying out a roads policing operation at communities in the Wharfe Valley.having excessively tinted windows and one person arrested for driving whilst over the prescribed limit for drugs.
In addition to a drugs arrest and a car seizure, the Roads Policing Unit worked with the Leeds North West Neighbourhood Policing Team to also issue six speeding tickets.
A spokesperson for the Leeds North West NPT said: "On Monday, colleagues from the Roads Policing Unit worked alongside NPT Officers to patrol Horsforth, Adel, Holt Park, Tinshill, Weetwood, Bramhope and Rawdon."
Results included: Six speeding tickets issued, two warnings for speed, two tickets for having an expired MOT, one vehicle seized for driving without insurance, one ticket for no insurance, one ticket for driving without a seatbelt, one ticket for
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/23930551.dozen-tickets-handed-road-policing-operation/
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