now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
...mumble, mumble, mutter, I'm geting steadily more and more like
Victor Meldrew. :-)
On 26/04/2024 20:38, Chris Green wrote:
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
You first push them down without screwing so they click into place, then tighten them by screwing.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
...mumble, mumble, mutter, I'm geting steadily more and more like
Victor Meldrew. :-)
On 26 Apr 2024 at 22:11:01 BST, "Clive Arthur" <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
On 26/04/2024 20:38, Chris Green wrote:
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
You first push them down without screwing so they click into place, then
tighten them by screwing.
I thought that too. But they don't click.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
3. They are much shallower than the old ones, and so are harder for older, >more arthritic, hands to open.
4. What is the supposed point of this change?
On 26/04/2024 20:38, Chris Green wrote:Yea
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
You first push them down without screwing so they click into place, then >tighten them by screwing.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
...mumble, mumble, mutter, I'm geting steadily more and more like
Victor Meldrew. :-)
--
Cheers
Clive
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
...mumble, mumble, mutter, I'm geting steadily more and more like
Victor Meldrew. :-)
In message <l93mqkFkdihU1@mid.individual.net>, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> writes
On 26 Apr 2024 at 22:11:01 BST, "Clive Arthur"
<clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
On 26/04/2024 20:38, Chris Green wrote:
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
You first push them down without screwing so they click into place, then >>> tighten them by screwing.
I thought that too. But they don't click.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and >>>> messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
3. They are much shallower than the old ones, and so are harder for
older,
more arthritic, hands to open.
4. What is the supposed point of this change?
Try looking at this from the manufacturers POV.
Probably helps automate some production process or save a fraction of
one pence per item.
The designer may consider re-fitting to be unnecessary.
On 26 Apr 2024 at 22:11:01 BST, "Clive Arthur" <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
4. What is the supposed point of this change?
Try looking at this from the manufacturers POV.
Probably helps automate some production process or save a fraction of
one pence per item.
The designer may consider re-fitting to be unnecessary.
Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2024 at 22:11:01 BST, "Clive Arthur" <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
4. What is the supposed point of this change?
Try looking at this from the manufacturers POV.
Probably helps automate some production process or save a fraction of
one pence per item.
The designer may consider re-fitting to be unnecessary.
OP here. I think it's some sort of green/recycling idea to keep the
top with the bottle when it's thrown away.
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
...mumble, mumble, mutter, I'm geting steadily more and more like
Victor Meldrew. :-)
Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2024 at 22:11:01 BST, "Clive Arthur"
<clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
4. What is the supposed point of this change?
Try looking at this from the manufacturers POV.
Probably helps automate some production process or save a fraction of
one pence per item.
The designer may consider re-fitting to be unnecessary.
OP here. I think it's some sort of green/recycling idea to keep the
top with the bottle when it's thrown away.
On 26/04/2024 20:38, Chris Green wrote:
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
...mumble, mumble, mutter, I'm geting steadily more and more like
Victor Meldrew. :-)
Complain. Tesco handed over £10 when I reported this issue to them.
Why can't we make anything properly nowadays - other than a mess of things?
Clive Arthur wrote:
On 26/04/2024 20:38, Chris Green wrote:Yea
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
You first push them down without screwing so they click into place, then
tighten them by screwing.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
...mumble, mumble, mutter, I'm geting steadily more and more like
Victor Meldrew. :-)
--
Cheers
Clive
It’s little bit tricky to close the cap
But, what’s the purpose for non separating cap? 🤔
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:42:24 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2024 at 22:11:01 BST, "Clive Arthur" <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
4. What is the supposed point of this change?
Try looking at this from the manufacturers POV.
Probably helps automate some production process or save a fraction of
one pence per item.
The designer may consider re-fitting to be unnecessary.
OP here. I think it's some sort of green/recycling idea to keep the
top with the bottle when it's thrown away.
Exactly the same as the change to the ring-pull beer can that happened decades ago.
I'm sure our local council (Bury MBC) once advised that bottle caps
were not recyclable and should go in the general waste.
Now it seems to be the form-factor that determines what goes in the
recycling bin. If it looks lika a bottle it goes in, irrespective of
the material.
it is a crap design
a so called improvement over what was before which worked perfectly well.
There is probably some environmental reason behind it with drinks manufacturers trying to virtue signal
I think it's some sort of green/recycling idea to keep the
top with the bottle when it's thrown away.
Now it seems to be the form-factor that determines what goes in the
recycling bin. If it looks lika a bottle it goes in, irrespective of
the material.
On 27-Apr-24 14:03, Peter Able wrote:
On 26/04/2024 20:38, Chris Green wrote:
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
...mumble, mumble, mutter, I'm geting steadily more and more like
Victor Meldrew. :-)
Complain. Tesco handed over £10 when I reported this issue to them.
Why can't we make anything properly nowadays - other than a mess of
things?
You might be happy with your £10, but it solves nothing and is simply
their way of saying "Go away and stop bothering us."
On 27-Apr-24 14:03, Peter Able wrote:
On 26/04/2024 20:38, Chris Green wrote:
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and
messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
...mumble, mumble, mutter, I'm geting steadily more and more like
Victor Meldrew. :-)
Complain. Tesco handed over £10 when I reported this issue to them.
Why can't we make anything properly nowadays - other than a mess of
things?
You might be happy with your £10, but it solves nothing and is simply
their way of saying "Go away and stop bothering us."
On 27/04/2024 19:11, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 27-Apr-24 14:03, Peter Able wrote:
On 26/04/2024 20:38, Chris Green wrote:
Does anyone else find the new (supposedly wonderfully brilliant and
clever) non-separating screw caps for plastic bottles incredibly
frustrating?
I put up with them for a while thinking I might get used to them but
now I simply pull them separate from the bottle and, with great
relief, use them the way they used to be!
There's two major problems with them:-
1 - When you screw them back on they are **much** more difficult to
get straight so you often cross thread them. They then don't seal
properly and the fizz goes (if it's a fizzy drink) or the next
time you shake your orange juice it dribbles.
2 - When you pour from the bottle the attached cap gets in the way and >>>> messes up the pouring, you either have to orient the bottle carefully
or (if the cap is loose as it often is) hold the cap out of the way.
...mumble, mumble, mutter, I'm geting steadily more and more like
Victor Meldrew. :-)
Complain. Tesco handed over £10 when I reported this issue to them.
Why can't we make anything properly nowadays - other than a mess of
things?
You might be happy with your £10, but it solves nothing and is simply
their way of saying "Go away and stop bothering us."
Like the customer service practice of refunding if there is something
the matter with a product - no-one tells the supplier there is something wrong, so it isn't corrected unless quality control picks it up.
Graham. wrote:
Now it seems to be the form-factor that determines what goes in the
recycling bin. If it looks lika a bottle it goes in, irrespective of
the material.
I see we've been given a four year delay on the "reverse vending
machine" scheme for plastic bottles and cans ...
Chris Green wrote:
I think it's some sort of green/recycling idea to keep the
top with the bottle when it's thrown away.
Normally they'd complain about mixed plastics (the bottle is PET and the
cap is HDPE).
Or the glass bottles which have a plastic cap & pouring spout firmly
embedded in the neck[1]. I would be happy to separate the glass and
plastic if I could, but how can you do it without shedding blood?
On 27/04/2024 12:47, Graham. wrote:
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:42:24 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2024 at 22:11:01 BST, "Clive Arthur"
<clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
4. What is the supposed point of this change?
Try looking at this from the manufacturers POV.
Probably helps automate some production process or save a fraction of
one pence per item.
The designer may consider re-fitting to be unnecessary.
OP here. I think it's some sort of green/recycling idea to keep the
top with the bottle when it's thrown away.
Exactly the same as the change to the ring-pull beer can that happened
decades ago.
That was to protect wildlife.
I'm sure our local council (Bury MBC) once advised that bottle caps
were not recyclable and should go in the general waste.
Now it seems to be the form-factor that determines what goes in the
recycling bin. If it looks lika a bottle it goes in, irrespective of
the material.
What about bottles with metal caps? Usually there is also a metal collar
on the neck of the bottle that stays on the bottle, sometimes quite a substantial one.
On 28/04/2024 00:58, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham. wrote:
Now it seems to be the form-factor that determines what goes in the
recycling bin. If it looks lika a bottle it goes in, irrespective of
the material.
I see we've been given a four year delay on the "reverse vending
machine" scheme for plastic bottles and cans ...
Good. For me it is nothing but extra hassle.
We buy a *lot* in plastic bottles (fizzy drinks, fizzy water, milk) -
enough to almost fill a 240l bin every 4 weeks. All end up in our bottle
and can recycling bin, collected 4 weekly by the council or in the
recycling bin at work. Having to gather them up to take with me when
shopping and then feed them into a machine to receive the deposit back,
just means more effort for me and more of my time wasted - for exactly
the same number of bottles returned for recycling.
[1] I was thinking of Worcestershire Sauce bottles[2] but there are
plenty of others.
[2] Does anyone (in the UK) actually call it anything other than
Worcester Sauce?
SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 28/04/2024 00:58, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham. wrote:
Now it seems to be the form-factor that determines what goes in the
recycling bin. If it looks lika a bottle it goes in, irrespective of
the material.
I see we've been given a four year delay on the "reverse vending
machine" scheme for plastic bottles and cans ...
Good. For me it is nothing but extra hassle.
We buy a *lot* in plastic bottles (fizzy drinks, fizzy water, milk) -
enough to almost fill a 240l bin every 4 weeks. All end up in our bottle
and can recycling bin, collected 4 weekly by the council or in the
recycling bin at work. Having to gather them up to take with me when
shopping and then feed them into a machine to receive the deposit back,
just means more effort for me and more of my time wasted - for exactly
the same number of bottles returned for recycling.
The idea behind the vending-machine approach to recycling is to keep environmental matters to the fore in your mind.
On 28/04/2024 00:58, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham. wrote:
Now it seems to be the form-factor that determines what goes in the
recycling bin. If it looks lika a bottle it goes in, irrespective of
the material.
I see we've been given a four year delay on the "reverse vending
machine" scheme for plastic bottles and cans ...
Good. For me it is nothing but extra hassle.
We buy a *lot* in plastic bottles (fizzy drinks, fizzy water, milk) -
enough to almost fill a 240l bin every 4 weeks. All end up in our bottle
and can recycling bin, collected 4 weekly by the council or in the
recycling bin at work. Having to gather them up to take with me when
shopping and then feed them into a machine to receive the deposit back,
just means more effort for me and more of my time wasted - for exactly
the same number of bottles returned for recycling.
On 28/04/2024 22:35, Spike wrote:
SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 28/04/2024 00:58, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham. wrote:
Now it seems to be the form-factor that determines what goes in the
recycling bin. If it looks lika a bottle it goes in, irrespective of >>>> the material.
I see we've been given a four year delay on the "reverse vending
machine" scheme for plastic bottles and cans ...
Good. For me it is nothing but extra hassle.
We buy a *lot* in plastic bottles (fizzy drinks, fizzy water, milk) -
enough to almost fill a 240l bin every 4 weeks. All end up in our
bottle and can recycling bin, collected 4 weekly by the council or in
the recycling bin at work. Having to gather them up to take with me
when shopping and then feed them into a machine to receive the deposit
back, just means more effort for me and more of my time wasted - for
exactly the same number of bottles returned for recycling.
The idea behind the vending-machine approach to recycling is to keep environmental matters to the fore in your mind.
More likely put people off the idea entirely.
I can remember the 3d deposit scheme for bottles - in this case the
bottles were washed and reused: much more "environmental" than smashing
up bottles and melting them down - that heat costs a lot of CO2.
on holiday in France - 40 years ago - I remember machines at supermarkests which accepted bottles and gave out coins.
I used to buy a lot of fizzy water, pretty cheap from Lidl, but got fed
up with lugging it in from the car and embarrassed by the amount of
recycling it was creating. OK, better than landfill, but still...
So I stopped and didn't buy a Sodastream or similar. Now I'm thinking I might - any advice about the best type? I'm not bothered about
flavours, just water. [BTW, cola drinks with Phosphoric Acid are
implicated in kidney stone problems.]Â And can such a device be used to somehow charge SWMBO's half empty Cremant bottles to stop it going flat?
charles wrote:
on holiday in France - 40 years ago - I remember machines at supermarkests which accepted bottles and gave out coins.
Even bank machines which take-in real coins and credit it to your
account manage to get clogged-up very easily. I can imagine a machine
that's supposed to take-in bottles and cans being unavailable half the
bloody time ...
On 28/04/2024 19:24, Sam Plusnet wrote:
Or the glass bottles which have a plastic cap & pouring spout firmly
embedded in the neck[1]. I would be happy to separate the glass and
plastic if I could, but how can you do it without shedding blood?
It can be done, with care, using a skewer!
On 28/04/2024 19:24, Sam Plusnet wrote:
[1] I was thinking of Worcestershire Sauce bottles[2] but there are
plenty of others.
[2] Does anyone (in the UK) actually call it anything other than
Worcester Sauce?
Well you just did. (Apparently both terms are acceptable.)
On 29-Apr-24 11:57, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/04/2024 19:24, Sam Plusnet wrote:
[1] I was thinking of Worcestershire Sauce bottles[2] but there are
plenty of others.
[2] Does anyone (in the UK) actually call it anything other than
Worcester Sauce?
Well you just did. (Apparently both terms are acceptable.)
Writing, I'd use the full thing (well, I just did).
Speaking, it's always "Worcester Sauce".
P.S. Should it now be called "Three Counties Sauce"?
P.P.S. The wiki entry mentions:
"The three English agrarian counties of Gloucestershire, Herefordshire
and Worcestershire".
The only times I have seen the word "agrarian" used, it has always been followed by either "revolution" or "reform".
On 29/04/2024 21:42, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 29-Apr-24 11:57, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/04/2024 19:24, Sam Plusnet wrote:
[1] I was thinking of Worcestershire Sauce bottles[2] but there are
plenty of others.
[2] Does anyone (in the UK) actually call it anything other than
Worcester Sauce?
Well you just did. (Apparently both terms are acceptable.)
Writing, I'd use the full thing (well, I just did).
Speaking, it's always "Worcester Sauce".
P.S. Should it now be called "Three Counties Sauce"?
P.P.S. The wiki entry mentions:
"The three English agrarian counties of Gloucestershire, Herefordshire
and Worcestershire".
The only times I have seen the word "agrarian" used, it has always
been followed by either "revolution" or "reform".
Or you could have the American visitor pronunciation eg Wor-ces-ter, Glo-ces-ter, Chel-ten-ham, etc.
On 04-May-24 10:41, wasbit wrote:
On 29/04/2024 21:42, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 29-Apr-24 11:57, Max Demian wrote:Or you could have the American visitor pronunciation eg Wor-ces-ter,
On 28/04/2024 19:24, Sam Plusnet wrote:
[1] I was thinking of Worcestershire Sauce bottles[2] but there are
plenty of others.
[2] Does anyone (in the UK) actually call it anything other than
Worcester Sauce?
Well you just did. (Apparently both terms are acceptable.)
Writing, I'd use the full thing (well, I just did).
Speaking, it's always "Worcester Sauce".
P.S. Should it now be called "Three Counties Sauce"?
P.P.S. The wiki entry mentions:
"The three English agrarian counties of Gloucestershire, Herefordshire
and Worcestershire".
The only times I have seen the word "agrarian" used, it has always
been followed by either "revolution" or "reform".
Glo-ces-ter, Chel-ten-ham, etc.
Loughborough?
wasbit wrote:
Or you could have the American visitor pronunciation eg Wor-ces-ter,
Glo-ces-ter, Chel-ten-ham, etc.
Loughborough?
On Sat, 04 May 2024 21:24:59 +0100, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 04-May-24 10:41, wasbit wrote:
On 29/04/2024 21:42, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 29-Apr-24 11:57, Max Demian wrote:Or you could have the American visitor pronunciation eg Wor-ces-ter,
On 28/04/2024 19:24, Sam Plusnet wrote:
[1] I was thinking of Worcestershire Sauce bottles[2] but there are >>>>>> plenty of others.
[2] Does anyone (in the UK) actually call it anything other than
Worcester Sauce?
Well you just did. (Apparently both terms are acceptable.)
Writing, I'd use the full thing (well, I just did).
Speaking, it's always "Worcester Sauce".
P.S. Should it now be called "Three Counties Sauce"?
P.P.S. The wiki entry mentions:
"The three English agrarian counties of Gloucestershire, Herefordshire >>>> and Worcestershire".
The only times I have seen the word "agrarian" used, it has always
been followed by either "revolution" or "reform".
Glo-ces-ter, Chel-ten-ham, etc.
Loughborough?
Try Goodnestone in Kent. There are two of them, not that far apart. Pronounced differently.
On 4 May 2024 at 21:14:45, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
On Sat, 04 May 2024 21:24:59 +0100, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 04-May-24 10:41, wasbit wrote:
On 29/04/2024 21:42, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 29-Apr-24 11:57, Max Demian wrote:Or you could have the American visitor pronunciation eg Wor-ces-ter,
On 28/04/2024 19:24, Sam Plusnet wrote:
[1] I was thinking of Worcestershire Sauce bottles[2] but there
are plenty of others.
[2] Does anyone (in the UK) actually call it anything other than >>>>>>> Worcester Sauce?
Well you just did. (Apparently both terms are acceptable.)
Writing, I'd use the full thing (well, I just did).
Speaking, it's always "Worcester Sauce".
P.S. Should it now be called "Three Counties Sauce"?
P.P.S. The wiki entry mentions:
"The three English agrarian counties of Gloucestershire,
Herefordshire and Worcestershire".
The only times I have seen the word "agrarian" used, it has always
been followed by either "revolution" or "reform".
Glo-ces-ter, Chel-ten-ham, etc.
Loughborough?
Try Goodnestone in Kent. There are two of them, not that far apart.
Pronounced differently.
Like Cosham and Bosham (Cosh'm and Bozzum, about 12 miles apart)
On 4 May 2024 at 21:14:45, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
On Sat, 04 May 2024 21:24:59 +0100, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 04-May-24 10:41, wasbit wrote:
On 29/04/2024 21:42, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 29-Apr-24 11:57, Max Demian wrote:Or you could have the American visitor pronunciation eg Wor-ces-ter,
On 28/04/2024 19:24, Sam Plusnet wrote:
[1] I was thinking of Worcestershire Sauce bottles[2] but there are >>>>>>> plenty of others.
[2] Does anyone (in the UK) actually call it anything other than >>>>>>> Worcester Sauce?
Well you just did. (Apparently both terms are acceptable.)
Writing, I'd use the full thing (well, I just did).
Speaking, it's always "Worcester Sauce".
P.S. Should it now be called "Three Counties Sauce"?
P.P.S. The wiki entry mentions:
"The three English agrarian counties of Gloucestershire, Herefordshire >>>>> and Worcestershire".
The only times I have seen the word "agrarian" used, it has always
been followed by either "revolution" or "reform".
Glo-ces-ter, Chel-ten-ham, etc.
Loughborough?
Try Goodnestone in Kent. There are two of them, not that far apart.
Pronounced differently.
Like Cosham and Bosham (Cosh'm and Bozzum, about 12 miles apart)
On 2024-05-05 09:30, Bob Martin wrote:
On 4 May 2024 at 21:14:45, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
On Sat, 04 May 2024 21:24:59 +0100, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 04-May-24 10:41, wasbit wrote:
On 29/04/2024 21:42, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 29-Apr-24 11:57, Max Demian wrote:Or you could have the American visitor pronunciation eg Wor-ces-ter, >>>> Glo-ces-ter, Chel-ten-ham, etc.
On 28/04/2024 19:24, Sam Plusnet wrote:
[1] I was thinking of Worcestershire Sauce bottles[2] but there are >>>>>>> plenty of others.
[2] Does anyone (in the UK) actually call it anything other than >>>>>>> Worcester Sauce?
Well you just did. (Apparently both terms are acceptable.)
Writing, I'd use the full thing (well, I just did).
Speaking, it's always "Worcester Sauce".
P.S. Should it now be called "Three Counties Sauce"?
P.P.S. The wiki entry mentions:
"The three English agrarian counties of Gloucestershire, Herefordshire >>>>> and Worcestershire".
The only times I have seen the word "agrarian" used, it has always >>>>> been followed by either "revolution" or "reform".
Loughborough?
Try Goodnestone in Kent. There are two of them, not that far apart.
Pronounced differently.
Like Cosham and Bosham (Cosh'm and Bozzum, about 12 miles apart)
In MK we have Broughton, Loughton and Woughton all close together.
Br-OR-ton, L-OW-ton and W-OOF-ton.
nib
On Sat, 04 May 2024 21:24:59 +0100, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 04-May-24 10:41, wasbit wrote:
On 29/04/2024 21:42, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 29-Apr-24 11:57, Max Demian wrote:Or you could have the American visitor pronunciation eg Wor-ces-ter,
On 28/04/2024 19:24, Sam Plusnet wrote:
[1] I was thinking of Worcestershire Sauce bottles[2] but there are >>>>>> plenty of others.
[2] Does anyone (in the UK) actually call it anything other than
Worcester Sauce?
Well you just did. (Apparently both terms are acceptable.)
Writing, I'd use the full thing (well, I just did).
Speaking, it's always "Worcester Sauce".
P.S. Should it now be called "Three Counties Sauce"?
P.P.S. The wiki entry mentions:
"The three English agrarian counties of Gloucestershire, Herefordshire >>>> and Worcestershire".
The only times I have seen the word "agrarian" used, it has always
been followed by either "revolution" or "reform".
Glo-ces-ter, Chel-ten-ham, etc.
Loughborough?
Try Goodnestone in Kent. There are two of them, not that far apart. Pronounced differently.
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