A neighbour (non cat owner) has a problem with cats defecating in his
front garden which is covered with white chippings.
The perimeter is too long & has too many access points to prevent them entering.
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
A neighbour (non cat owner) has a problem with cats defecating in his
front garden which is covered with white chippings.
The perimeter is too long & has too many access points to prevent them entering.
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
A neighbour (non cat owner) has a problem with cats defecating in his
front garden which is covered with white chippings.
The perimeter is too long & has too many access points to prevent them entering.
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
And of course, deaf cats are immune to this. If the perp is a white cat
with two blue eyes, it's quite likely to be deaf. White with one blue eye >and it could well be deaf, white with no blue eyes and it stands a good >chance of being deaf.
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible cat owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples gardens. :(
On 06/03/2024 10:01, wasbit wrote:
A neighbour (non cat owner) has a problem with cats defecating in his
front garden which is covered with white chippings.
The perimeter is too long & has too many access points to prevent them
entering.
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
What doesn't work is those ultrasonic cat/dog/mouse sounders. It will
scare the cat off a few times but after a couple of days they take no
notice.
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible cat
owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples gardens. :(
TBF they have built something that looks just like a giant cat litter tray with pristine white litter, so it's not surprising the cats think it's an ideal place to poop. Pooping in the litter tray provided is them doing exactly what humans have trained them to do.
Theo
On 06/03/2024 11:47, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible cat >>>owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples gardens. :(
TBF they have built something that looks just like a giant cat litter tray >>with pristine white litter, so it's not surprising the cats think it's an >>ideal place to poop. Pooping in the litter tray provided is them doing >>exactly what humans have trained them to do.
Theo
So the victims of irresponsible cat owners are to blame?
On 06/03/2024 11:47, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible cat
owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples gardens. :(
TBF they have built something that looks just like a giant cat litter tray with pristine white litter, so it's not surprising the cats think it's an ideal place to poop. Pooping in the litter tray provided is them doing exactly what humans have trained them to do.
So the victims of irresponsible cat owners are to blame?
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 11:47, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible cat >>>> owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples gardens. :(
TBF they have built something that looks just like a giant cat litter tray >>> with pristine white litter, so it's not surprising the cats think it's an >>> ideal place to poop. Pooping in the litter tray provided is them doing
exactly what humans have trained them to do.
So the victims of irresponsible cat owners are to blame?
How exactly are the cat owners irresponsible?
Somebody has built something that looks to them like a luxury toilet. So their options are to make it unappealing in some way - either physical measures like covering it or changing the litter, or let it get dirty enough that it's no longer an attractive toilet.
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 00:23:16 +1100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 11:47, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible cat >>>> owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples gardens. :(TBF they have built something that looks just like a giant cat
litter tray
with pristine white litter, so it's not surprising the cats think
it's an
ideal place to poop. Pooping in the litter tray provided is them doing >>> exactly what humans have trained them to do.
Theo
So the victims of irresponsible cat owners are to blame?
For deliberately making what the cat thinks is a giant cat litter tray,
yep.
On 06/03/2024 14:27, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 11:47, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible
cat owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples
gardens. :(
TBF they have built something that looks just like a giant cat litter
tray with pristine white litter, so it's not surprising the cats
think it's an ideal place to poop. Pooping in the litter tray
provided is them doing exactly what humans have trained them to do.
So the victims of irresponsible cat owners are to blame?
How exactly are the cat owners irresponsible?
By owning a pet that they know that they cannot control and then not
taking any responsibility for cleaning up their pet's shit.
On 06/03/2024 14:27, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 11:47, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible cat >>>>> owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples gardens. :(
TBF they have built something that looks just like a giant cat litter tray >>>> with pristine white litter, so it's not surprising the cats think it's an >>>> ideal place to poop. Pooping in the litter tray provided is them doing >>>> exactly what humans have trained them to do.
So the victims of irresponsible cat owners are to blame?
How exactly are the cat owners irresponsible?
By owning a pet that they know that they cannot control and then not
taking any responsibility for cleaning up their pet's shit.
And then they think this anti-social behaviour is perfectly acceptable
by taking pride in quoting the bullshit that cats cannot be controlled.
Somebody has built something that looks to them like a luxury toilet. So
their options are to make it unappealing in some way - either physical
measures like covering it or changing the litter, or let it get dirty enough >> that it's no longer an attractive toilet.
Typical response from a cat person who fails to recognise that they are
sole reason for this type of problem. It is no longer acceptable to have
so many cats in a built up urban area and the law should be changed to
reflect that cats are a problem, and more so for the owners that make
excuses for their failure to act in a responsible social manner when it
comes to cat shit.
I'll bet you would be the first to complain if a dog owner let their pet
shit in your front garden.
The solution that should have been adopted by those
who are obsessed about cat shit is to not have a front
yard that is a gigantic litter tray that all the neighbour
cats will choose to use.
Cats don't have owners, they have people who provide bed & board.
On 06/03/2024 11:47, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible cat
owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples gardens. :(
TBF they have built something that looks just like a giant cat litter
tray
with pristine white litter, so it's not surprising the cats think it's an
ideal place to poop. Pooping in the litter tray provided is them doing
exactly what humans have trained them to do.
Theo
So the victims of irresponsible cat owners are to blame?
On 06/03/2024 18:00, charles wrote:
Cats don't have owners, they have people who provide bed & board.
Again typical response from cat owners that take no responsibility for
the problem they have created.
On 06/03/2024 18:18, Rod Speed wrote:
The solution that should have been adopted by those
who are obsessed about cat shit is to not have a front
yard that is a gigantic litter tray that all the neighbour
cats will choose to use.
Here in the uk if dogs shit anywhere they want and it is not cleaned up
by their owners it is considered to be anti-social.
Why is acceptable for cat owners not to be held to the same standards?
On 06/03/2024 14:27, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 11:47, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible
cat owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples
gardens. :(
TBF they have built something that looks just like a giant cat
litter tray with pristine white litter, so it's not surprising
the cats think it's an ideal place to poop. Pooping in the litter
tray provided is them doing exactly what humans have trained them
to do.
So the victims of irresponsible cat owners are to blame?
How exactly are the cat owners irresponsible?
By owning a pet that they know that they cannot control and then not
taking any responsibility for cleaning up their pet's shit.
And then they think this anti-social behaviour is perfectly acceptable
by taking pride in quoting the bullshit that cats cannot be controlled.
Somebody has built something that looks to them like a luxury toilet. So >> their options are to make it unappealing in some way - either physical
measures like covering it or changing the litter, or let it get dirty
enough that it's no longer an attractive toilet.
Typical response from a cat person who fails to recognise that they are
sole reason for this type of problem. It is no longer acceptable to have
so many cats in a built up urban area
and the law should be changed to
reflect that cats are a problem, and more so for the owners that make
excuses for their failure to act in a responsible social manner when it
comes to cat shit.
I'll bet you would be the first to complain if a dog owner let their pet
shit in your front garden.
On 06/03/2024 05:31 pm, alan_m wrote:
I'll bet you would be the first to complain if a dog owner let
their pet shit in your front garden.
Hereabouts, dogs do not have the right to roam and must be kept on a
lead on the highway or in any other public place.
On 06/03/2024 18:18, Rod Speed wrote:
The solution that should have been adopted by those
who are obsessed about cat shit is to not have a front
yard that is a gigantic litter tray that all the neighbour
cats will choose to use.
Here in the uk if dogs shit anywhere they want and it is not cleaned up
by their owners it is considered to be anti-social.
Why is acceptable for cat owners not to be held to the same standards?
On 06/03/2024 17:41, Rod Speed wrote:
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 00:23:16 +1100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>
On 06/03/2024 11:47, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible cat >>>>> owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples gardens. :(TBF they have built something that looks just like a giant cat litter tray
with pristine white litter, so it's not surprising the cats think it's an >>>> ideal place to poop. Pooping in the litter tray provided is them doing >>>> exactly what humans have trained them to do.
Theo
So the victims of irresponsible cat owners are to blame?
For deliberately making what the cat thinks is a giant cat litter tray, yep.
So the solution that has be adopted by irresponsible cat owners is to make their own property look like the ideal litter tray so that their cats prefer shitting there.
Cat owner need to take responsibly for their own pets and not insist that others spend money degrading their properties to make them unattractive as a cat toilet , or spend money on other cat deterrents.
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 18:00, charles wrote:
Cats don't have owners, they have people who provide bed & board.
Again typical response from cat owners that take no responsibility for
the problem they have created.
I don't own a cat.
JNugent <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 05:31 pm, alan_m wrote:
I'll bet you would be the first to complain if a dog owner let
their pet shit in your front garden.
Hereabouts, dogs do not have the right to roam and must be kept on a
lead on the highway or in any other public place.
Back when I passed my test, dogs were one of the nine Notifiable
Animals, a collision with one having to be reported to the police. Cats
were not.
A neighbour (non cat owner) has a problem with cats defecating in his
front garden which is covered with white chippings.
The perimeter is too long & has too many access points to prevent them >entering.
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Hereabouts, dogs do not have the right to roam and must be kept on a lead
on the highway or in any other public place.
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 18:18, Rod Speed wrote:However we seem not to worry about all the urban (or other) foxes,
The solution that should have been adopted by those
who are obsessed about cat shit is to not have a front
yard that is a gigantic litter tray that all the neighbour
cats will choose to use.
Here in the uk if dogs shit anywhere they want and it is not cleaned up
by their owners it is considered to be anti-social.
Why is acceptable for cat owners not to be held to the same standards?
squirrels, deer, etc., not to mention all the birds around the place.
Why pick on domestic animals?
No cat ever woke me up by barking at 06:00.
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh. Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
On 06/03/2024 21:17, JNugent wrote:
<snip>
No cat ever woke me up by barking at 06:00.
Cats around here howl at each other at all times.
On 06/03/2024 18:18, Rod Speed wrote:
The solution that should have been adopted by those
who are obsessed about cat shit is to not have a front
yard that is a gigantic litter tray that all the neighbour
cats will choose to use.
Here in the uk if dogs shit anywhere they want and it is not cleaned up
by their owners it is considered to be anti-social.
Why is acceptable for cat owners not to be held to the same standards?
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh. Can
anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has
worked effectively for me before.
On 06/03/2024 22:45, David Paste wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh. Can >>> anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has
worked effectively for me before.
All these so called remedies that involve sprinkling something on the
ground may only work for a short time AND if it doesn't rain.
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept indoors
all the time is not going to shit on my property.
On 6 Mar 2024 at 21:04:15 GMT, "Chris Green" <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 18:18, Rod Speed wrote:However we seem not to worry about all the urban (or other) foxes,
The solution that should have been adopted by those
who are obsessed about cat shit is to not have a front
yard that is a gigantic litter tray that all the neighbour
cats will choose to use.
Here in the uk if dogs shit anywhere they want and it is not cleaned up
by their owners it is considered to be anti-social.
Why is acceptable for cat owners not to be held to the same standards?
squirrels, deer, etc., not to mention all the birds around the place.
Why pick on domestic animals?
And the Bodgers, too, who shit all over our lawn and dig holes.
No cat ever woke me up by barking at 06:00.
and cats are allowed to roam. If people are annoyed by a bit of cat shit (which is normally buried and in the soil,
unlike dog muck that is
deposited on pavements, on grass verges that people walk over and on
playing fields children play on), are they bothered by bird droppings
and that of other wild animals?
On 06/03/2024 11:51 pm, alan_m wrote:
On 06/03/2024 22:45, David Paste wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh. Can >>>> anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has
worked effectively for me before.
All these so called remedies that involve sprinkling something on the
ground may only work for a short time AND if it doesn't rain.
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept indoors
all the time is not going to shit on my property.
How would you prove which cat had dropped the offending matter?
On 06/03/2024 23:51, SteveW wrote:
unlike dog muck that is deposited on pavements, on grass verges that
people walk over and on playing fields children play on), are they
bothered by bird droppings and that of other wild animals?
Again, criticising irresponsible and anti-social dog owners for not
picking up their pet's shit but applying a double standard for cat owners.
Just because wild animals shit where they like it doesn't excuse those
who choose to keep domestic cats to let their pets do the same.
It's no different to fly tipping rubbish on other people s property.
On 06/03/2024 23:56, JNugent wrote:
On 06/03/2024 11:51 pm, alan_m wrote:
On 06/03/2024 22:45, David Paste wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire
mesh. Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has >>>> worked effectively for me before.
All these so called remedies that involve sprinkling something on the
ground may only work for a short time AND if it doesn't rain.
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
indoors all the time is not going to shit on my property.
How would you prove which cat had dropped the offending matter?
I don't have to prove anything,
...it's up to the cat owner to put measures
in place to always pick up their own pet's shit.
Please stop trying to defend irresponsible cat owners and putting the
blame and burden of proof on the recipients of this total 'don't care' anti-social behaviour.
Rightly, people complain about dog shit but strangely don't think that
cat shit is an equal problem, especially for those on the receiving end
of it.
On 06/03/2024 11:51 pm, alan_m wrote:
On 06/03/2024 22:45, David Paste wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can
anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has
worked effectively for me before.
All these so called remedies that involve sprinkling something on the
ground may only work for a short time AND if it doesn't rain.
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
indoors all the time is not going to shit on my property.
How would you prove which cat had dropped the offending matter?
On 06/03/2024 23:51, SteveW wrote:
unlike dog muck that is deposited on pavements, on grass verges that
people walk over and on playing fields children play on), are they
bothered by bird droppings and that of other wild animals?
Again, criticising irresponsible and anti-social dog owners for not
picking up their pet's shit but applying a double standard for cat owners.
Just because wild animals shit where they like it doesn't excuse those
who choose to keep domestic cats to let their pets do the same.
It's no different to fly tipping rubbish on other people s property.
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 11:12:18 +1100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 23:51, SteveW wrote:
and cats are allowed to roam. If people are annoyed by a bit of cat
shit (which is normally buried and in the soil,
Not buried at all in my front garden!
Never seen any cat shit in my jungle.
On 6 Mar 2024 22:54:23 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2024 at 21:04:15 GMT, "Chris Green" <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 18:18, Rod Speed wrote:However we seem not to worry about all the urban (or other) foxes,
The solution that should have been adopted by those who are obsessed >>>> about cat shit is to not have a front yard that is a gigantic litter >>>> tray that all the neighbour cats will choose to use.
Here in the uk if dogs shit anywhere they want and it is not cleaned
up by their owners it is considered to be anti-social.
Why is acceptable for cat owners not to be held to the same standards? >>>
squirrels, deer, etc., not to mention all the birds around the place.
Why pick on domestic animals?
And the Bodgers, too, who shit all over our lawn and dig holes.
Badgers will totally trash a lawn. They're bad news for well-manicured gardens.
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh. Can
anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has
worked effectively for me before.
I have never had a cat leave a mess on my drive, on the footpath or (as happened frequently with dogs in my youth) on the school foorball pitch.
On 06/03/2024 11:51 pm, alan_m wrote:
On 06/03/2024 22:45, David Paste wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can
anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has
worked effectively for me before.
All these so called remedies that involve sprinkling something on the
ground may only work for a short time AND if it doesn't rain.
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
indoors all the time is not going to shit on my property.
How would you prove which cat had dropped the offending matter?
On 07/03/2024 00:24, SteveW wrote:
<snip>
I have never had a cat leave a mess on my drive, on the footpath or
(as happened frequently with dogs in my youth) on the school foorball
pitch.
It was pretty much every day here, on the concrete step just inside the
back gate.
On 06/03/2024 22:54, Tim Streater wrote:
Why pick on domestic animals?
And the Bodgers, too, who shit all over our lawn and dig holes.
Ewwww that's a whole different league of D.I.Y enthusiasts you have in
your neck of the weeds!
Why pick on domestic animals?
And the Bodgers, too, who shit all over our lawn and dig holes.
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept indoors
all the time is not going to shit on my property.
I don't have to prove anything
Rightly, people complain about dog shit but strangely don't think that
cat shit is an equal problem, especially for those on the receiving end
of it.
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept indoors
all the time is not going to shit on my property.
BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM HERE-ON-
IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN
LETTER ATTACHED!
Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round
to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into insignificance compared to pigeons alone.
THERE'S NO BUTTER IN HELL!
Chilli powder too, probably cheaper than white pepper in big bags from
Asian shops. It was one of many experiments before I tried the
ultrasound device.
IME it does deter, and the thought of the little bastards licking their
paws is somewhat pleasing, but it's rainy here in the south west so it doesn't last.
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 00:36:02 +0000, alan_m wrote:
I don't have to prove anything
YOU TELL 'EM, SISTER!!
Rightly, people complain about dog shit but strangely don't think that
cat shit is an equal problem, especially for those on the receiving end
of it.
Inspired by your well thought-out arguments, I now feel emboldened to
start an anti-horse-shit campaign because whenever I go for a walk there's barrow loads of that littering the paths.
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept indoors
all the time is not going to shit on my property.
BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM HERE-ON-
IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN
LETTER ATTACHED!
Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round
to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into insignificance compared to pigeons alone.
On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:
Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round
to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into insignificance >> compared to pigeons alone.
I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your property
a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small front garden
flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with fucking cats with irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets and just
chuck them to defecate where they please.
What I want to know is who is responsible for all the pigeon duck goose
and jackdaw crap, especially from the jackdaws falling down the chimneys
- the deer that eat everything, and the rabbits hares and foxes digging fallout shelters everywhere Not to mention Mr Mole and his atomic
command centres under my lawns...
THERE'S NO BUTTER IN HELL!
Isn't there? that must make the frying less than healthy.
I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your property
a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small front garden
flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with fucking cats with irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets and just
chuck them to defecate where they please.
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 08:20:05 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 21:17:28 +0000
JNugent <jnugent97@mail.com> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 05:31 pm, alan_m wrote:
I'll bet you would be the first to complain if a dog owner let
their pet shit in your front garden.
Hereabouts, dogs do not have the right to roam and must be kept on
a lead on the highway or in any other public place.
Back when I passed my test, dogs were one of the nine Notifiable
Animals, a collision with one having to be reported to the police.
Fark, where was that ?
Cats were not.
On 06/03/2024 23:56, JNugent wrote:
On 06/03/2024 11:51 pm, alan_m wrote:
On 06/03/2024 22:45, David Paste wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:52 +0000, wasbit wrote:
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire
mesh. Can
anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Sprinkle finely ground white pepper about, a reasonable amount. It has >>>> worked effectively for me before.
All these so called remedies that involve sprinkling something on the
ground may only work for a short time AND if it doesn't rain.
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
indoors all the time is not going to shit on my property.
How would you prove which cat had dropped the offending matter?
At least one Spanish town is using DNA to trace which dog has offended...
... I assume this would work for cats...
https://time.com/4552903/mislata-spain-dog-feces/
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 00:36:02 +0000, alan_m wrote:
I don't have to prove anything
YOU TELL 'EM, SISTER!!
Rightly, people complain about dog shit but strangely don't think that
cat shit is an equal problem, especially for those on the receiving end
of it.
Inspired by your well thought-out arguments, I now feel emboldened to
start an anti-horse-shit campaign because whenever I go for a walk there's barrow loads of that littering the paths.
On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept indoors >>> all the time is not going to shit on my property.
BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM
HERE-ON-
IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN
LETTER ATTACHED!
Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round
to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into
insignificance
compared to pigeons alone.
I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your property
a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small front garden
flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with fucking cats with irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets and just
chuck them to defecate where they please.
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 12:34:19 +0000, alan_m wrote:
I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your property
a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small front garden
flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with fucking cats with
irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets and just
chuck them to defecate where they please.
No, I'd do something about it because I'm not helpless.
If you went away for a few days and left your windows open, would you complain if your house had been burgled? No, of course not, you'd chastise yourself for doing something stupid which is entirely under your control.
What if the cats crappng in your garden are feral? Have no human
custodials? Who do you complain to then? Or do you, as is rational, assume that a small amount of effort on your behalf could sort out a problem
quite effectively, regardless of who may or may not "own" the crapping
cat?
That your initial idea of complaining to the owner relies implicitly on assuming that EVERY visiting cat HAS an owner is the flaw in your
hypothesis.
Also, how do you know it's not an urban fox?
On 07/03/2024 12:34 pm, alan_m wrote:
On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat
shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than
tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
indoors
all the time is not going to shit on my property.
BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM
HERE-ON-
IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN
LETTER ATTACHED!
Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get round >>> to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into
insignificance
compared to pigeons alone.
I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your
property a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small
front garden flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with fucking
cats with irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets
and just chuck them to defecate where they please.
You say )to the PP):
"...if I delivered to your property a weeks worth of cat shit I find in
my relatively small front garden flower beds".
But why would you do that?
On 07/03/2024 16:20, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2024 12:34 pm, alan_m wrote:
On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat >>>>> shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than >>>>> tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
indoors
all the time is not going to shit on my property.
BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM
HERE-ON-
IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN >>>> LETTER ATTACHED!
Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get
round
to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into
insignificance
compared to pigeons alone.
I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your
property a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small
front garden flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with fucking
cats with irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about their pets
and just chuck them to defecate where they please.
You say )to the PP):
"...if I delivered to your property a weeks worth of cat shit I find
in my relatively small front garden flower beds".
But why would you do that?
I'd be happy to take it. First rate fertiliser
On 07/03/2024 05:50 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 16:20, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2024 12:34 pm, alan_m wrote:
On 07/03/2024 12:23, David Paste wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:47 +0000, alan_m wrote:
Again, you are advocating that the person on the receiving end of cat >>>>>> shit has to spend time and money to minimise the problem rather than >>>>>> tackling the problem from the other end and make the cat owners
responsible for cleaning up the mess their pets make. A cat kept
indoors
all the time is not going to shit on my property.
BY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT! ANY ANIMAL CRAPPING ON MY PROPERTY WILL FROM
HERE-ON-
IN BE PARCELLED UP AND SENT BACK TO THEIR SO-CALLED OWNER WITH A STERN >>>>> LETTER ATTACHED!
Now can you tell me where to send hedgehogs and birds? I shall get
round
to the cats eventually, but their colonic output pales into
insignificance
compared to pigeons alone.
I'll bet you would soon change your mind if I delivered to your
property a weeks worth of cat shit I find in my relatively small
front garden flower beds. This is an urban area overrun with
fucking cats with irresponsible owners who don't care a damn about
their pets and just chuck them to defecate where they please.
You say )to the PP):
"...if I delivered to your property a weeks worth of cat shit I find
in my relatively small front garden flower beds".
But why would you do that?
I'd be happy to take it. First rate fertiliser
It's his shovelling (or scooping it) up and bringing it round in a bag
that sounds... amusing.
On 06/03/2024 10:01, wasbit wrote:
A neighbour (non cat owner) has a problem with cats defecating in his
front garden which is covered with white chippings.
The perimeter is too long & has too many access points to prevent them
entering.
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
What doesn't work is those ultrasonic cat/dog/mouse sounders. It will
scare the cat off a few times but after a couple of days they take no
notice.
Probably the only way is to apply for an ASBO for the irresponsible cat owners who let their pets roam and shit in other peoples gardens. :(
A neighbour (non cat owner) has a problem with cats defecating in his
front garden which is covered with white chippings.
The perimeter is too long & has too many access points to prevent them entering.
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
On 06/03/2024 10:01, wasbit wrote:
A neighbour (non cat owner) has a problem with cats defecating in his >>front garden which is covered with white chippings.
The perimeter is too long & has too many access points to prevent
them entering.
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Update.
The neighbour has now covered the garden with wire mesh.
Ironically there was a pile of cat poo on top of the mesh the morning
after it was laid but none since.
In article <fv0iui97f7d0re10gf5kr4dbvbaqpsfrlj@4ax.com>, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2024 22:54:23 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2024 at 21:04:15 GMT, "Chris Green" <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/03/2024 18:18, Rod Speed wrote:However we seem not to worry about all the urban (or other) foxes,
The solution that should have been adopted by those who are obsessed >>>>>> about cat shit is to not have a front yard that is a gigantic litter >>>>>> tray that all the neighbour cats will choose to use.
Here in the uk if dogs shit anywhere they want and it is not cleaned >>>>> up by their owners it is considered to be anti-social.
Why is acceptable for cat owners not to be held to the same standards? >>>>>
squirrels, deer, etc., not to mention all the birds around the place.
Why pick on domestic animals?
And the Bodgers, too, who shit all over our lawn and dig holes.
Badgers will totally trash a lawn. They're bad news for well-manicured
gardens.
They also dig up tulips
On 06/03/2024 10:01, wasbit wrote:
A neighbour (non cat owner) has a problem with cats defecating in his
front garden which is covered with white chippings.
The perimeter is too long & has too many access points to prevent them
entering.
He is currently contemplating covering the chippings with wire mesh.
Can anyone suggest a better or more cost effective deterrent?
Replace the chippings with large pebbles.
Spray the area with lion urine
Scatter lemon or orange peel around the area
Grow lavender in the garden
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