• Getting the back off a watch (threaded back type)

    From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 3 18:18:42 2024
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there.
    Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-)

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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Mar 3 18:23:43 2024
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was £30 from H Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of the month. Anything else?

    --
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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Sun Mar 3 18:27:12 2024
    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was £30 from H Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of the month. Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    --
    Colin Bignell

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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 3 18:46:32 2024
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:27:12 GMT, "Colin Bignell" <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was £30 from H >> Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of the month. >> Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    That too.

    --
    All of science is either physics or stamp-collecting.

    Ernest Rutherford

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Sun Mar 3 18:54:18 2024
    On 3 Mar 2024 18:46:32 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:

    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:27:12 GMT, "Colin Bignell" <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> >wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote: >>>
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was 30 from H >>> Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of the month. >>> Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    That too.

    Anyway, if we can please get back on topic, the point is that
    Superglue is actually useful for something other than simply sticking
    Just Stop Oil morons to motorway bridges.
    So it was highly effective in this application. But what else is it
    ideal for? There must be other uses where nothing else will do the
    trick?

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Mar 3 19:35:14 2024
    On 03/03/2024 18:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there.
    Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-)

    Acetone is one of only two commonly available solvents that actually
    does dissolve superglue. The other is nitromethane.

    I can absolutely confirm that acetone does work if you can stop it
    evaporating first. A sealed container overnight is indicated

    --
    Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle
    more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump
    their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the
    battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
    that they are dead.
    Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Mar 3 19:42:25 2024
    On 03/03/2024 18:54, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 18:46:32 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:

    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:27:12 GMT, "Colin Bignell" <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> >> wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote: >>>>
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies >>>>> out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was £30 from H >>>> Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of the month. >>>> Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    That too.

    Anyway, if we can please get back on topic, the point is that
    Superglue is actually useful for something other than simply sticking
    Just Stop Oil morons to motorway bridges.
    So it was highly effective in this application. But what else is it
    ideal for? There must be other uses where nothing else will do the
    trick?

    Used with baking soda it makes good guitar nuts.

    Its a highly effective tack agent for small parts. And 3D printed
    plastics. Anywhere that epoxy is simply to thick and heavy. And PVA wont
    stick.

    I've used it to glue loudspeaker spiders to their frames.
    But since I am not making model planes so much I don't use it that often.

    --
    “Some people like to travel by train because it combines the slowness of
    a car with the cramped public exposure of 
an airplane.”

    Dennis Miller

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to tnp@invalid.invalid on Sun Mar 3 20:43:43 2024
    On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 19:35:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there.
    Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-)

    Acetone is one of only two commonly available solvents that actually
    does dissolve superglue. The other is nitromethane.

    I can absolutely confirm that acetone does work if you can stop it >evaporating first. A sealed container overnight is indicated

    Yes! I got away with just four hours plus a bit of physical
    persuasion. But if it had been left overnight I'm sure it would have
    simply fallen away by itself. Anyway, no damage so all good.
    I have to make up some drive belts for a reel-to-reel tape recorder.
    Apparently Superglue is ideal for that, too; joins rubber whilst not
    creating a rigid spot which might slip or de-rail.

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  • From John Rumm@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Mar 4 02:14:46 2024
    On 03/03/2024 18:54, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 18:46:32 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:

    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:27:12 GMT, "Colin Bignell" <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> >> wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote: >>>>
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies >>>>> out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was £30 from H >>>> Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of the month. >>>> Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    That too.

    Anyway, if we can please get back on topic, the point is that
    Superglue is actually useful for something other than simply sticking
    Just Stop Oil morons to motorway bridges.
    So it was highly effective in this application. But what else is it
    ideal for? There must be other uses where nothing else will do the
    trick?

    There are plenty of uses - especially if you have a can of activator to
    go with it.

    A common one I use is for work holding on things you don't want
    obstructed by clamps or to physically mark. Apply blue masking tape to
    both things you want to stick. Apply superglue to one side, spray the
    other with activator, and slap em together. 10 secs later you have good
    enough fix to route round a template etc. When done you can prise the
    masking tape off the surfaces without any damage.

    Also lots of applications in things like baking soda to make an instant
    fix filler / putty.


    --
    Cheers,

    John.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to see.my.signature@nowhere.null on Mon Mar 4 09:19:00 2024
    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 02:14:46 +0000, John Rumm
    <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:54, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 18:46:32 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:

    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:27:12 GMT, "Colin Bignell" <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk>
    wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's >>>>>> been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear >>>>>> all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the >>>>>> back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been >>>>>> simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper >>>>>> one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies >>>>>> out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was 30 from H >>>>> Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of the month.
    Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    That too.

    Anyway, if we can please get back on topic, the point is that
    Superglue is actually useful for something other than simply sticking
    Just Stop Oil morons to motorway bridges.
    So it was highly effective in this application. But what else is it
    ideal for? There must be other uses where nothing else will do the
    trick?

    There are plenty of uses - especially if you have a can of activator to
    go with it.

    A common one I use is for work holding on things you don't want
    obstructed by clamps or to physically mark. Apply blue masking tape to
    both things you want to stick. Apply superglue to one side, spray the
    other with activator, and slap em together. 10 secs later you have good >enough fix to route round a template etc. When done you can prise the
    masking tape off the surfaces without any damage.

    Also lots of applications in things like baking soda to make an instant
    fix filler / putty.

    Activator? What does that do? It sets fast enough as it is!

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Mar 4 10:03:11 2024
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    There are plenty of uses - especially if you have a can of activator to
    go with it.

    A common one I use is for work holding on things you don't want
    obstructed by clamps or to physically mark. Apply blue masking tape to
    both things you want to stick. Apply superglue to one side, spray the
    other with activator, and slap em together. 10 secs later you have good >enough fix to route round a template etc. When done you can prise the >masking tape off the surfaces without any damage.

    Also lots of applications in things like baking soda to make an instant
    fix filler / putty.

    Activator? What does that do? It sets fast enough as it is!

    It makes it work on 'difficult' plastics like polythene and
    polypropylene.

    --
    Chris Green
    ·

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Mar 4 10:25:17 2024
    On 04/03/2024 09:19, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 02:14:46 +0000, John Rumm
    <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:54, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 18:46:32 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:

    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:27:12 GMT, "Colin Bignell" <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk>
    wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's >>>>>>> been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear >>>>>>> all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and >>>>>>> replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the >>>>>>> back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been >>>>>>> simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper >>>>>>> one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies >>>>>>> out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was £30 from H
    Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of the month.
    Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    That too.

    Anyway, if we can please get back on topic, the point is that
    Superglue is actually useful for something other than simply sticking
    Just Stop Oil morons to motorway bridges.
    So it was highly effective in this application. But what else is it
    ideal for? There must be other uses where nothing else will do the
    trick?

    There are plenty of uses - especially if you have a can of activator to
    go with it.

    A common one I use is for work holding on things you don't want
    obstructed by clamps or to physically mark. Apply blue masking tape to
    both things you want to stick. Apply superglue to one side, spray the
    other with activator, and slap em together. 10 secs later you have good
    enough fix to route round a template etc. When done you can prise the
    masking tape off the surfaces without any damage.

    Also lots of applications in things like baking soda to make an instant
    fix filler / putty.

    Activator? What does that do? It sets fast enough as it is!

    Well actually no, it doesn't.

    Not on all surfaces

    On carbon fibre and balsa wood (and fingers or Jeans ) it is so instant
    it *smokes * from the heat. On metals it sorta hangs round for ages.

    I have never figured out why.

    Maybe damp is an activator

    --
    Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

    "Saki"

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  • From Tim Lamb@21:1/5 to cd@notformail.com on Mon Mar 4 10:36:09 2024
    In message <3kh9uilttbq9jh3ce27us9d4tie5ggrkoq@4ax.com>, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> writes
    On 3 Mar 2024 18:46:32 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:

    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:27:12 GMT, "Colin Bignell" <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> >>wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote: >>>>
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies >>>>> out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was 30 from H >>>> Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of the month. >>>> Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    That too.

    Anyway, if we can please get back on topic, the point is that
    Superglue is actually useful for something other than simply sticking
    Just Stop Oil morons to motorway bridges.
    So it was highly effective in this application. But what else is it
    ideal for? There must be other uses where nothing else will do the
    trick?

    Fixing tyre repair patches to modern *plastic* Wellington boots.

    --
    Tim Lamb

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  • From Tim Lamb@21:1/5 to tim@streater.me.uk on Mon Mar 4 10:34:26 2024
    In message <l4jthfFkqtjU1@mid.individual.net>, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> writes
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was 30 from H >Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of the month. >Anything else?

    Indeed. Mine includes day of the week. Sweep second hand etc. Probably
    not 100% waterproof but ok on short immersion.
    Similar price from Casio.



    --
    Tim Lamb

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  • From Tim Lamb@21:1/5 to tnp@invalid.invalid on Mon Mar 4 10:41:09 2024
    In message <us47ie$33beb$4@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
    On 04/03/2024 09:19, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 02:14:46 +0000, John Rumm
    <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:54, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 18:46:32 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:

    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:27:12 GMT, "Colin Bignell" >>>>><cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk>
    wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom" >>>>>>><cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's >>>>>>>> been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear >>>>>>>> all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and >>>>>>>> replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the >>>>>>>> back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been >>>>>>>> simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper >>>>>>>> one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies >>>>>>>> out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was >>>>>>>30 from H
    Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of >>>>>>>the month.
    Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    That too.

    Anyway, if we can please get back on topic, the point is that
    Superglue is actually useful for something other than simply sticking
    Just Stop Oil morons to motorway bridges.
    So it was highly effective in this application. But what else is it
    ideal for? There must be other uses where nothing else will do the
    trick?

    There are plenty of uses - especially if you have a can of activator to
    go with it.

    A common one I use is for work holding on things you don't want
    obstructed by clamps or to physically mark. Apply blue masking tape to
    both things you want to stick. Apply superglue to one side, spray the
    other with activator, and slap em together. 10 secs later you have good
    enough fix to route round a template etc. When done you can prise the
    masking tape off the surfaces without any damage.

    Also lots of applications in things like baking soda to make an instant
    fix filler / putty.
    Activator? What does that do? It sets fast enough as it is!

    Well actually no, it doesn't.

    Not on all surfaces

    On carbon fibre and balsa wood (and fingers or Jeans ) it is so instant
    it *smokes * from the heat. On metals it sorta hangs round for ages.

    I have never figured out why.

    Maybe damp is an activator

    Don't know why but, repairing broken ceramics works best if you wet the surfaces prior to applying the glue.


    --
    Tim Lamb

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  • From Tricky Dicky@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Mar 5 16:24:34 2024
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there.
    Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-)


    Spent my entire working life living by the clock, took it off the day I
    retired and have never worn it since.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From charles@21:1/5 to Dicky on Tue Mar 5 16:45:03 2024
    In article <us7h02$3rk8q$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there.
    Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-)


    Spent my entire working life living by the clock, took it off the day I retired and have never worn it since.

    you obviously don't need to catch a train or bus.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to charles on Tue Mar 5 18:44:58 2024
    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
    In article <us7h02$3rk8q$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there.
    Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-)


    Spent my entire working life living by the clock, took it off the day I
    retired and have never worn it since.

    you obviously don't need to catch a train or bus.


    That’s what you have your mobile phone for. ;-)

    Tim

    --
    Please don't feed the trolls

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay on Tue Mar 5 19:04:26 2024
    On 5 Mar 2024 at 18:44:58 GMT, "Tim+" <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:

    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
    In article <us7h02$3rk8q$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there.
    Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-) >>>>

    Spent my entire working life living by the clock, took it off the day I
    retired and have never worn it since.

    you obviously don't need to catch a train or bus.


    That’s what you have your mobile phone for. ;-)

    That's a minor use for it. Its main purpose is to make phone calls.

    --
    Lady Astor: "If you were my husband I'd give you poison."
    Churchill: "If you were my wife, I'd drink it."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From nib@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Tue Mar 5 19:05:09 2024
    On 2024-03-05 18:19, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 03:45:03 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:

    In article <us7h02$3rk8q$1@dont-email.me>,
       Tricky  Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there.
    Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-) >>> >

    Spent my entire working life living by the clock, took it off the day I
    retired and have never worn it since.

    you obviously don't need to catch a train or bus.

    Makes more sense to use the phone now.

    Ah! You just carry a clock instead of a watch!

    nib

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From charles@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Tue Mar 5 19:30:04 2024
    In article <op.2j6ai6a6byq249@pvr2.lan>,
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 03:45:03 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:

    In article <us7h02$3rk8q$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there.
    Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-) >> >

    Spent my entire working life living by the clock, took it off the day I
    retired and have never worn it since.

    you obviously don't need to catch a train or bus.

    Makes more sense to use the phone now.

    much easier to have a wrist watch

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Tue Mar 5 19:53:30 2024
    On 05/03/2024 19:04, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 5 Mar 2024 at 18:44:58 GMT, "Tim+" <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:

    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
    In article <us7h02$3rk8q$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies >>>>> out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there. >>>>> Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-) >>>>>

    Spent my entire working life living by the clock, took it off the day I >>>> retired and have never worn it since.

    you obviously don't need to catch a train or bus.


    That’s what you have your mobile phone for. ;-)

    That's a minor use for it. Its main purpose is to make phone calls.


    That is one of the minor uses of mine.


    --
    Colin Bignell

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Tue Mar 5 20:19:00 2024
    On 05/03/2024 19:04, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 5 Mar 2024 at 18:44:58 GMT, "Tim+" <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:

    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
    In article <us7h02$3rk8q$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies >>>>> out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there. >>>>> Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-) >>>>>

    Spent my entire working life living by the clock, took it off the day I >>>> retired and have never worn it since.

    you obviously don't need to catch a train or bus.


    That’s what you have your mobile phone for. ;-)

    That's a minor use for it. Its main purpose is to make phone calls.

    No. I never make phone calls on it. Its main use is because people
    insist on using it to send you data, texts, and use it to pay for your
    car park.

    --
    “A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader,
    who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
    “We did this ourselves.”

    ― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 5 20:17:28 2024
    On 05/03/2024 18:44, Tim+ wrote:
    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
    In article <us7h02$3rk8q$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and
    replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process. I tried the old
    rubber ball dodge to unscrew it, but it was far too tightly on there.
    Then I found another trick on Youtube. I was very doubtful, but it
    worked! Who'd have thought Superglue was actually any good for
    anything?

    https://disk.yandex.com/i/ZrQowgcVgDuO4A

    Now I just have to hope acetone will get the nut off, because it's
    going to be *very* uncomfortable to wear the damn thing otherwise. ;-) >>>>

    Spent my entire working life living by the clock, took it off the day I
    retired and have never worn it since.

    you obviously don't need to catch a train or bus.


    That’s what you have your mobile phone for. ;-)

    Indeed. It took me 45 minutes to actually buy a train and car park ticket.
    It was simply *not possible* to buy the parking ticket without a mobile
    phone.

    There was no option for 'key in registration and present cash/credit
    card'. Just website or and app. I couldn't download the app or reach
    the website because there was no signal on my phone, Nor could I phone
    the number given because in the station concourse there was no signal...



    And they wonder why the trains lose money....


    --
    “The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
    the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

    - Bertrand Russell

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Tue Mar 5 21:02:00 2024
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 07:15:35 +1100
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 06:30:04 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:



    Makes more sense to use the phone now.

    much easier to have a wrist watch

    Bullshit. And the phone does FAR more when you
    need to catch a train or bus when that allows you
    to see if the train or bus or plane is on time or not.

    Use the right tool for the job. Multifunction devices are rarely the
    best tools for the various jobs they do.

    I find looking at the watch on my wrist (which has real hands) quicker
    and easier than pulling my phone out of a pocket, opening the flap,
    hitting the on button, waiting for the screen to start up, then peering
    at the tiny digits in the corner of the screen. Then putting it away
    again.

    And the battery in my watch will allegedly last ten years, and it
    doesn't lose signal on the Underground.

    --
    Joe

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Peeler@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 5 22:03:57 2024
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 07:13:55 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
    Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

    <FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

    --
    David Plowman about senile Rodent Speed's trolling:
    "Wodney is doing a lot of morphing these days. Must be even more desperate
    than usual for attention."
    MID: <59a60da1d9dave@davenoise.co.uk>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to Joe on Tue Mar 5 22:15:52 2024
    On 5 Mar 2024 at 21:02:00 GMT, "Joe" <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 07:15:35 +1100
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 06:30:04 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:



    Makes more sense to use the phone now.

    much easier to have a wrist watch

    Bullshit. And the phone does FAR more when you
    need to catch a train or bus when that allows you
    to see if the train or bus or plane is on time or not.

    Use the right tool for the job. Multifunction devices are rarely the
    best tools for the various jobs they do.

    I find looking at the watch on my wrist (which has real hands) quicker
    and easier than pulling my phone out of a pocket, opening the flap,
    hitting the on button, waiting for the screen to start up, then peering
    at the tiny digits in the corner of the screen. Then putting it away
    again.

    And the battery in my watch will allegedly last ten years, and it
    doesn't lose signal on the Underground.

    Quite. All these folks are followers of the "all eggs in one basket" approach, and then they are fucked when the basket is nicked or runs out of volts or there is no signal.

    BTW, you forgot the "Enter Passcode" step.

    When this smartphone (7 years old now) shuffles off this mortal coil, I shall go back to a clamshell. Texts are useful, because they are better than answerphone messages. Voice and texts is all I want it to do.

    I already know how to read a map.

    --
    "I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a friend.... if you have one." - GB Shaw to Churchill. "Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second... if there is one." - Winston Churchill, in response.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to Joe on Wed Mar 6 12:08:02 2024
    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 21:02:00 +0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 07:15:35 +1100
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 06:30:04 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:



    Makes more sense to use the phone now.

    much easier to have a wrist watch

    Bullshit. And the phone does FAR more when you
    need to catch a train or bus when that allows you
    to see if the train or bus or plane is on time or not.

    Use the right tool for the job. Multifunction devices are rarely the
    best tools for the various jobs they do.

    I find looking at the watch on my wrist (which has real hands) quicker
    and easier than pulling my phone out of a pocket, opening the flap,
    hitting the on button, waiting for the screen to start up, then peering
    at the tiny digits in the corner of the screen. Then putting it away
    again.


    You are supposed to be looking at the phone all the time like 90% of
    the population do, even if there is traffic to negotiate.

    And the battery in my watch will allegedly last ten years, and it
    doesn't lose signal on the Underground.


    Battery? The OP's watch looks as if it winds up with motion. Mine
    charges up with daylight and picks up the time signal so it is always
    accurate to within 1 second. It doesn't need rebooting, security
    updates, contracts or replacing every 3 years because apps will no
    longer run on the older OS.


    --
    AnthonyL

    Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 6 12:29:20 2024
    On 6 Mar 2024 at 12:08:02 GMT, "AnthonyL" <AnthonyL> wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 21:02:00 +0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 07:15:35 +1100
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 06:30:04 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:

    Makes more sense to use the phone now.

    much easier to have a wrist watch

    Bullshit. And the phone does FAR more when you
    need to catch a train or bus when that allows you
    to see if the train or bus or plane is on time or not.

    Use the right tool for the job. Multifunction devices are rarely the
    best tools for the various jobs they do.

    I find looking at the watch on my wrist (which has real hands) quicker
    and easier than pulling my phone out of a pocket, opening the flap,
    hitting the on button, waiting for the screen to start up, then peering
    at the tiny digits in the corner of the screen. Then putting it away
    again.

    You are supposed to be looking at the phone all the time like 90% of
    the population do, even if there is traffic to negotiate.

    And the battery in my watch will allegedly last ten years, and it
    doesn't lose signal on the Underground.

    Battery? The OP's watch looks as if it winds up with motion. Mine
    charges up with daylight and picks up the time signal so it is always accurate to within 1 second. It doesn't need rebooting, security
    updates, contracts or replacing every 3 years because apps will no
    longer run on the older OS.

    Make and model, please.

    --
    "Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From charles@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Wed Mar 6 13:30:03 2024
    In article <65e85ba4.1513190750@news.eternal-september.org>,
    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 21:02:00 +0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 07:15:35 +1100
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 06:30:04 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:



    Makes more sense to use the phone now.

    much easier to have a wrist watch

    Bullshit. And the phone does FAR more when you
    need to catch a train or bus when that allows you
    to see if the train or bus or plane is on time or not.

    Use the right tool for the job. Multifunction devices are rarely the
    best tools for the various jobs they do.

    I find looking at the watch on my wrist (which has real hands) quicker
    and easier than pulling my phone out of a pocket, opening the flap,
    hitting the on button, waiting for the screen to start up, then peering
    at the tiny digits in the corner of the screen. Then putting it away
    again.


    You are supposed to be looking at the phone all the time like 90% of
    the population do, even if there is traffic to negotiate.

    And the battery in my watch will allegedly last ten years, and it
    doesn't lose signal on the Underground.


    Battery? The OP's watch looks as if it winds up with motion. Mine
    charges up with daylight and picks up the time signal so it is always accurate to within 1 second. It doesn't need rebooting, security
    updates, contracts or replacing every 3 years because apps will no
    longer run on the older OS.

    But, we seem to be getting away from the OP's original point. He spent his working days clockwatching so no longer did so. I'm sure he didn't mean
    using a phone rather than a watch./

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to charles on Wed Mar 6 13:46:43 2024
    On 06/03/2024 13:30, charles wrote:
    In article <65e85ba4.1513190750@news.eternal-september.org>,
    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 21:02:00 +0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 07:15:35 +1100
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 06:30:04 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:



    Makes more sense to use the phone now.

    much easier to have a wrist watch

    Bullshit. And the phone does FAR more when you
    need to catch a train or bus when that allows you
    to see if the train or bus or plane is on time or not.

    Use the right tool for the job. Multifunction devices are rarely the
    best tools for the various jobs they do.

    I find looking at the watch on my wrist (which has real hands) quicker
    and easier than pulling my phone out of a pocket, opening the flap,
    hitting the on button, waiting for the screen to start up, then peering
    at the tiny digits in the corner of the screen. Then putting it away
    again.


    You are supposed to be looking at the phone all the time like 90% of
    the population do, even if there is traffic to negotiate.

    And the battery in my watch will allegedly last ten years, and it
    doesn't lose signal on the Underground.


    Battery? The OP's watch looks as if it winds up with motion. Mine
    charges up with daylight and picks up the time signal so it is always
    accurate to within 1 second. It doesn't need rebooting, security
    updates, contracts or replacing every 3 years because apps will no
    longer run on the older OS.

    But, we seem to be getting away from the OP's original point. He spent his working days clockwatching so no longer did so. I'm sure he didn't mean
    using a phone rather than a watch./

    Indeed. I simply cant be arsed to dash round shaving minutes off. I
    arrive for appointments up to an hour early because that means I dont
    stress out when there is traffic or some other aspect of ThisShinyDigitalNewWorld doesn't actually work at all.


    --
    For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the
    very definition of slavery.

    Jonathan Swift

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Wed Mar 6 23:36:21 2024
    Tim Streater wrote:

    On 6 Mar 2024 at 12:08:02 GMT, "AnthonyL" <AnthonyL> wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 21:02:00 +0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 07:15:35 +1100
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 06:30:04 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:

    Makes more sense to use the phone now.

    much easier to have a wrist watch

    Bullshit. And the phone does FAR more when you
    need to catch a train or bus when that allows you
    to see if the train or bus or plane is on time or not.

    Use the right tool for the job. Multifunction devices are rarely the
    best tools for the various jobs they do.

    I find looking at the watch on my wrist (which has real hands) quicker
    and easier than pulling my phone out of a pocket, opening the flap,
    hitting the on button, waiting for the screen to start up, then peering
    at the tiny digits in the corner of the screen. Then putting it away
    again.

    You are supposed to be looking at the phone all the time like 90% of
    the population do, even if there is traffic to negotiate.

    And the battery in my watch will allegedly last ten years, and it
    doesn't lose signal on the Underground.

    Battery? The OP's watch looks as if it winds up with motion. Mine
    charges up with daylight and picks up the time signal so it is always
    accurate to within 1 second. It doesn't need rebooting, security
    updates, contracts or replacing every 3 years because apps will no
    longer run on the older OS.

    Make and model, please.


    probably one of the Casio Wave Ceptor watches

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to Tim Lamb on Wed Mar 6 23:44:28 2024
    On 04/03/2024 10:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
    In message <us47ie$33beb$4@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
    On 04/03/2024 09:19, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 02:14:46 +0000, John Rumm
    <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:54, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 18:46:32 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote: >>>>>
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:27:12 GMT, "Colin Bignell"
    <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk>
    wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom"
    <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check
    there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You >>>>>>>>> hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and >>>>>>>>> replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, >>>>>>>>> the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have >>>>>>>>> been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the >>>>>>>>> proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty >>>>>>>>> copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was >>>>>>>> £30 from H
    Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of >>>>>>>> the month.
    Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    That too.

    Anyway, if we can please get back on topic, the point is that
    Superglue is actually useful for something other than simply sticking >>>>> Just Stop Oil morons to motorway bridges.
    So it was highly effective in this application. But what else is it
    ideal for? There must be other uses where nothing else will do the
    trick?

    There are plenty of uses - especially if you have a can of activator to >>>> go with it.

    A common one I use is for work holding on things you don't want
    obstructed by clamps or to physically mark. Apply blue masking tape to >>>> both things you want to stick. Apply superglue to one side, spray the
    other with activator, and slap em together. 10 secs later you have good >>>> enough fix to route round a template etc. When done you can prise the
    masking tape off the surfaces without any damage.

    Also lots of applications in things like baking soda to make an instant >>>> fix filler / putty.
     Activator? What does that do? It sets fast enough as it is!

    Well actually no, it doesn't.

    Not on all surfaces

    On carbon fibre and balsa wood (and fingers or Jeans ) it is so
    instant it *smokes * from the heat. On metals it sorta hangs round for
    ages.

    I have never figured out why.

    Maybe damp is an activator

    Don't know why but, repairing broken ceramics works best if you wet the surfaces prior to applying the glue.

    Polymerisation will occur in the presence of moisture.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate#Polymerization

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Thu Mar 7 00:18:08 2024
    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:44:28 +0000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

    On 04/03/2024 10:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
    In message <us47ie$33beb$4@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
    <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
    On 04/03/2024 09:19, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 02:14:46 +0000, John Rumm
    <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:54, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 18:46:32 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:27:12 GMT, "Colin Bignell"
    <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk>
    wrote:

    On 03/03/2024 18:23, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 3 Mar 2024 at 18:18:42 GMT, "Cursitor Doom"
    <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Gentlemen,

    Every time I send a watch off for servicing, I always check >>>>>>>>>> there's
    been no funny business taking place whilst it's been away. You >>>>>>>>>> hear
    all sorts of horror stories about movements being swapped-out and >>>>>>>>>> replaced with Chinese or Russian crap. Anyway, for some reason, >>>>>>>>>> the
    back of this one just did NOT want to come off. It should have >>>>>>>>>> been
    simple. They do make a special tool for removing it, but the >>>>>>>>>> proper
    one is *very* expensive and there are a lot of cheap and nasty >>>>>>>>>> copies
    out there that will damage the case in the process ...

    Sounds like you paid through the nose for your watch. Mine was >>>>>>>>> 30 from H
    Samuel about 8 years ago, keeps perfect time and has the day of >>>>>>>>> the month.
    Anything else?


    Also, yours doesn't yell out rob me.

    That too.

    Anyway, if we can please get back on topic, the point is that
    Superglue is actually useful for something other than simply sticking >>>>>> Just Stop Oil morons to motorway bridges.
    So it was highly effective in this application. But what else is it >>>>>> ideal for? There must be other uses where nothing else will do the >>>>>> trick?

    There are plenty of uses - especially if you have a can of activator to >>>>> go with it.

    A common one I use is for work holding on things you don't want
    obstructed by clamps or to physically mark. Apply blue masking tape to >>>>> both things you want to stick. Apply superglue to one side, spray the >>>>> other with activator, and slap em together. 10 secs later you have good >>>>> enough fix to route round a template etc. When done you can prise the >>>>> masking tape off the surfaces without any damage.

    Also lots of applications in things like baking soda to make an instant >>>>> fix filler / putty.
    Activator? What does that do? It sets fast enough as it is!

    Well actually no, it doesn't.

    Not on all surfaces

    On carbon fibre and balsa wood (and fingers or Jeans ) it is so
    instant it *smokes * from the heat. On metals it sorta hangs round for
    ages.

    I have never figured out why.

    Maybe damp is an activator

    Don't know why but, repairing broken ceramics works best if you wet the
    surfaces prior to applying the glue.

    Polymerisation will occur in the presence of moisture.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate#Polymerization

    On Superglue instructions it says to moisten porous surfaces with a
    little water.

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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Fri Mar 8 12:34:43 2024
    On 6 Mar 2024 12:29:20 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:

    On 6 Mar 2024 at 12:08:02 GMT, "AnthonyL" <AnthonyL> wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 21:02:00 +0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 07:15:35 +1100
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 06:30:04 +1100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:

    Makes more sense to use the phone now.

    much easier to have a wrist watch

    Bullshit. And the phone does FAR more when you
    need to catch a train or bus when that allows you
    to see if the train or bus or plane is on time or not.

    Use the right tool for the job. Multifunction devices are rarely the
    best tools for the various jobs they do.

    I find looking at the watch on my wrist (which has real hands) quicker
    and easier than pulling my phone out of a pocket, opening the flap,
    hitting the on button, waiting for the screen to start up, then peering
    at the tiny digits in the corner of the screen. Then putting it away
    again.

    You are supposed to be looking at the phone all the time like 90% of
    the population do, even if there is traffic to negotiate.

    And the battery in my watch will allegedly last ten years, and it
    doesn't lose signal on the Underground.

    Battery? The OP's watch looks as if it winds up with motion. Mine
    charges up with daylight and picks up the time signal so it is always
    accurate to within 1 second. It doesn't need rebooting, security
    updates, contracts or replacing every 3 years because apps will no
    longer run on the older OS.

    Make and model, please.


    Best I can do for you (no I'm not selling):

    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/casio-wave-ceptor-wv-300-atomic-self-454322313

    The model no is 3034. It was a birthday present probably in 2007.

    Seems as if Casio don't do them any more. I use it also when going
    abroad and it has dual time zone so I can just scroll through and set
    the second time zone as required.

    My everyday watch is Casio AQ-230. Can't recall how long I've had
    that. Just have to mess around every Feb 29th whereas the wave ceptor
    knows the date/time.


    --
    AnthonyL

    Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

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