David Brooks was thinking very hard :[....]
I'll "go away" as you put it if YOU, FromTheRafters, download
and run Etrecheck on YOUR MacBook Pro. Feel free to post the
subsequent 'report'
here, in full, for review by all ACW readers. As I'm sure you are >>>>>>>> already aware NO PERSONAL INFORMATION is published in such a
report.
Will you do that?
No.
Will you tell me WHY you will not do so?
I told you already, policy. It is my policy to not add stuff to my
Macbook.
EtreCheck is supposed NOT to install on one's computer, so what
'stuff' would be added?
What I mean is, if I don't need it, why have it on there. It already
has plenty of stuff that I don't need.
You've never been one to shy away from looking into something, even if
it is purely out of curiosity. You are well aware that you /could/
download and run EtreCheck, provide a copy of a report and /then/ remove
the software completely from your computer.
Probably.
Are you just a teeny-weeny frightened that simply by doing so your very
expensive bit of kit /might/ be compromised in some way?
No, the hardware is not compromised. It is the hardware which is
expensive, not the software. I suppose if I wanted to I could.
How would YOU check, afterwards, that nothing untoward HAD occurred?
I used to have a program called InControl4 (IIRC) which took a snapshot
of certain MS Windows system related areas before, to compare to one
taken after such a trial. I don't see anything like that for Mac.
Cross-posted to the UK Mac Usenet group.
Someone there (here!) may have a suggestion as to how one can check before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer.
I did a test using AppDelete and was amazed at how much 'crap' was left
on my computer after I'd dragged EtreCheck into the Trash as recommended
by the developer! John Daniel will not talk about it!
Am 19.08.22 um 15:15 schrieb David Brooks:
Cross-posted to the UK Mac Usenet group.
Someone there (here!) may have a suggestion as to how one can check
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer.
I did a test using AppDelete and was amazed at how much 'crap' was left
on my computer after I'd dragged EtreCheck into the Trash as recommended
by the developer! John Daniel will not talk about it!
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is redundant.
On 2022-08-19, David Brooks <David@invalid.address> wrote:
On 19/08/2022 16:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 15:15 schrieb David Brooks:
Cross-posted to the UK Mac Usenet group.
Someone there (here!) may have a suggestion as to how one can check
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer.
I did a test using AppDelete and was amazed at how much 'crap' was left >>>> on my computer after I'd dragged EtreCheck into the Trash as recommended >>>> by the developer! John Daniel will not talk about it!
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you
understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is
redundant.
It's good to hear you say that! :-)
He admitted he doesn't "know this software", yet, he called it "Crapware
of the worst kind" and "redundant"... and you say it's "good to hear"
him say that. Nothing goofy here <eyeroll>.
On 19/08/2022 16:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you
understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is
redundant.
It's good to hear you say that! :-)
Do you have any suggestion as to how one can check the
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer, rather
like the "InControl4" software mentioned by FromTheRafters?
On 19/08/2022 16:42, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-08-19, David Brooks <David@invalid.address> wrote:
On 19/08/2022 16:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 15:15 schrieb David Brooks:
Cross-posted to the UK Mac Usenet group.
Someone there (here!) may have a suggestion as to how one can check
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer.
I did a test using AppDelete and was amazed at how much 'crap' was left >>>>> on my computer after I'd dragged EtreCheck into the Trash as recommended >>>>> by the developer! John Daniel will not talk about it!
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you
understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is >>>> redundant.
It's good to hear you say that! :-)
He admitted he doesn't "know this software", yet, he called it "Crapware
of the worst kind" and "redundant"... and you say it's "good to hear"
him say that. Nothing goofy here <eyeroll>.
We had spoken of it earlier.
Am 19.08.22 um 17:31 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 16:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you
understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is
redundant.
It's good to hear you say that! :-)
Do you have any suggestion as to how one can check the
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer, rather
like the "InControl4" software mentioned by FromTheRafters?
After deleting and flushing the application from the "Applications"
Folder I just check the "Library" - "Application Support" whether I can
find residues of the flushed software. Check the "Home" for created
folders then use Spotlight to track further remote residues. Thats enough.
Mac OS is not Windows and has nothing comparable to the Registry.
Before all that check whether there is an uninstaller from the software manufacturer. But use it only if you trust it.
On 19/08/2022 17:36, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 17:31 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 16:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you
understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is >>>> redundant.
It's good to hear you say that! :-)
Do you have any suggestion as to how one can check the
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer, rather
like the "InControl4" software mentioned by FromTheRafters?
After deleting and flushing the application from the "Applications"
Folder I just check the "Library" - "Application Support" whether I can
find residues of the flushed software. Check the "Home" for created
folders then use Spotlight to track further remote residues. Thats enough. >>
Mac OS is not Windows and has nothing comparable to the Registry.
Before all that check whether there is an uninstaller from the software
manufacturer. But use it only if you trust it.
Thank you for your thoughts. You have, however, mis-understood something!
EtreCheck is NOT an Application which is installed - it therefore
doesn't HAVE an "uninstaller".
Am 19.08.22 um 20:12 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 17:36, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 17:31 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 16:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you
understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is >>>>> redundant.
It's good to hear you say that! :-)
Do you have any suggestion as to how one can check the
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer, rather >>>> like the "InControl4" software mentioned by FromTheRafters?
After deleting and flushing the application from the "Applications"
Folder I just check the "Library" - "Application Support" whether I can
find residues of the flushed software. Check the "Home" for created
folders then use Spotlight to track further remote residues. Thats enough. >>>
Mac OS is not Windows and has nothing comparable to the Registry.
Before all that check whether there is an uninstaller from the software
manufacturer. But use it only if you trust it.
Thank you for your thoughts. You have, however, mis-understood something!
EtreCheck is NOT an Application which is installed - it therefore
doesn't HAVE an "uninstaller".
New definition of software/application and installation under Mac?
https://etrecheck.com/features
Core features
Detects over 70 specific problems and identifies them as serious or minor. Generates a detailed text report describing the state of your computer.
You can review this report yourself or post it on the internet for
someone else to help you. The text report is anonymous, removing any
personal information to protect your privacy.
Clearly identifies major and minor issues and shows which part of the
report is responsible for the issue.
Identifies and helps you remove adware
Analyzes storage space and displays it in an interactive pie chart to
help you safely recover free space.
Power User package
Provides an advanced user interface with additional information, links
to information from Apple and other sources, and buttons to easily
access system settings and files in hidden directories.
Provides a graphical, interactive display of analytics information over
the past few days.
Provides access to computer-generated solutions in case you don’t want
to post your EtreCheck report on the internet. Solutions include one or
more step-by-step tasks you can follow to help resolve your computer problems.
The Power User package is an optional in-app purchase. The price is USD $17.99 plus tax. The Power User package in EtreCheckPro can be activated
on up to 6 separate machines. To purchase, you must download
EtreCheckPro and try it first. Afterwards, you can purchase the Power
User package within the software itself.
No need to answer anymore.
No need to answer anymore.
On 19/08/2022 22:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 20:12 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 17:36, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 17:31 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 16:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you >>>>>> understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is >>>>>> redundant.
It's good to hear you say that! :-)
Do you have any suggestion as to how one can check the
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer, rather >>>>> like the "InControl4" software mentioned by FromTheRafters?
After deleting and flushing the application from the "Applications"
Folder I just check the "Library" - "Application Support" whether I can >>>> find residues of the flushed software. Check the "Home" for created
folders then use Spotlight to track further remote residues. Thats enough. >>>>
Mac OS is not Windows and has nothing comparable to the Registry.
Before all that check whether there is an uninstaller from the software >>>> manufacturer. But use it only if you trust it.
Thank you for your thoughts. You have, however, mis-understood something! >>>
EtreCheck is NOT an Application which is installed - it therefore
doesn't HAVE an "uninstaller".
New definition of software/application and installation under Mac?
https://etrecheck.com/features
Core features
Detects over 70 specific problems and identifies them as serious or minor. >> Generates a detailed text report describing the state of your computer.
You can review this report yourself or post it on the internet for
someone else to help you. The text report is anonymous, removing any
personal information to protect your privacy.
Clearly identifies major and minor issues and shows which part of the
report is responsible for the issue.
Identifies and helps you remove adware
Analyzes storage space and displays it in an interactive pie chart to
help you safely recover free space.
Power User package
Provides an advanced user interface with additional information, links
to information from Apple and other sources, and buttons to easily
access system settings and files in hidden directories.
Provides a graphical, interactive display of analytics information over
the past few days.
Provides access to computer-generated solutions in case you don’t want
to post your EtreCheck report on the internet. Solutions include one or
more step-by-step tasks you can follow to help resolve your computer
problems.
The Power User package is an optional in-app purchase. The price is USD
$17.99 plus tax. The Power User package in EtreCheckPro can be activated
on up to 6 separate machines. To purchase, you must download
EtreCheckPro and try it first. Afterwards, you can purchase the Power
User package within the software itself.
No need to answer anymore.
Thanks. I am familiar with what you have posted.
I *DID* purchase the Power User Package - but the developer, John
Daniels, refused to provide support by email. I requested, and have subsequently received, a full refund.
Did you also read here? https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6172
On 2022-08-19, David Brooks <David@invalid.address> wrote:
On 19/08/2022 22:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 20:12 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 17:36, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 17:31 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 16:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you >>>>>>> understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is >>>>>>> redundant.
It's good to hear you say that! :-)
Do you have any suggestion as to how one can check the
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer, rather >>>>>> like the "InControl4" software mentioned by FromTheRafters?
After deleting and flushing the application from the "Applications"
Folder I just check the "Library" - "Application Support" whether I can >>>>> find residues of the flushed software. Check the "Home" for created
folders then use Spotlight to track further remote residues. Thats enough.
Mac OS is not Windows and has nothing comparable to the Registry.
Before all that check whether there is an uninstaller from the software >>>>> manufacturer. But use it only if you trust it.
Thank you for your thoughts. You have, however, mis-understood something! >>>>
EtreCheck is NOT an Application which is installed - it therefore
doesn't HAVE an "uninstaller".
New definition of software/application and installation under Mac?
https://etrecheck.com/features
Core features
Detects over 70 specific problems and identifies them as serious or minor. >>> Generates a detailed text report describing the state of your computer.
You can review this report yourself or post it on the internet for
someone else to help you. The text report is anonymous, removing any
personal information to protect your privacy.
Clearly identifies major and minor issues and shows which part of the
report is responsible for the issue.
Identifies and helps you remove adware
Analyzes storage space and displays it in an interactive pie chart to
help you safely recover free space.
Power User package
Provides an advanced user interface with additional information, links
to information from Apple and other sources, and buttons to easily
access system settings and files in hidden directories.
Provides a graphical, interactive display of analytics information over
the past few days.
Provides access to computer-generated solutions in case you don’t want >>> to post your EtreCheck report on the internet. Solutions include one or
more step-by-step tasks you can follow to help resolve your computer
problems.
The Power User package is an optional in-app purchase. The price is USD
$17.99 plus tax. The Power User package in EtreCheckPro can be activated >>> on up to 6 separate machines. To purchase, you must download
EtreCheckPro and try it first. Afterwards, you can purchase the Power
User package within the software itself.
No need to answer anymore.
Thanks. I am familiar with what you have posted.
I *DID* purchase the Power User Package - but the developer, John
Daniels, refused to provide support by email. I requested, and have
subsequently received, a full refund.
Did you also read here? https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6172
If you got your money refunded on a software product that is generally a good sign that the company
is legit and releasing a quality product.
If it didn't work as you expected, why not move on and try something else?
It happens.
On 20/08/2022 12:30, Helmut Achterberg wrote:
On 2022-08-19, David Brooks <David@invalid.address> wrote:
On 19/08/2022 22:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 20:12 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 17:36, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 17:31 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 16:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you >>>>>>>> understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is
redundant.
It's good to hear you say that! :-)
Do you have any suggestion as to how one can check the
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer, rather >>>>>>> like the "InControl4" software mentioned by FromTheRafters?
After deleting and flushing the application from the "Applications" >>>>>> Folder I just check the "Library" - "Application Support" whether I can >>>>>> find residues of the flushed software. Check the "Home" for created >>>>>> folders then use Spotlight to track further remote residues. Thats enough.
Mac OS is not Windows and has nothing comparable to the Registry.
Before all that check whether there is an uninstaller from the software >>>>>> manufacturer. But use it only if you trust it.
Thank you for your thoughts. You have, however, mis-understood something! >>>>>
EtreCheck is NOT an Application which is installed - it therefore
doesn't HAVE an "uninstaller".
New definition of software/application and installation under Mac?
https://etrecheck.com/features
Core features
Detects over 70 specific problems and identifies them as serious or minor. >>>> Generates a detailed text report describing the state of your computer. >>>> You can review this report yourself or post it on the internet for
someone else to help you. The text report is anonymous, removing any
personal information to protect your privacy.
Clearly identifies major and minor issues and shows which part of the
report is responsible for the issue.
Identifies and helps you remove adware
Analyzes storage space and displays it in an interactive pie chart to
help you safely recover free space.
Power User package
Provides an advanced user interface with additional information, links >>>> to information from Apple and other sources, and buttons to easily
access system settings and files in hidden directories.
Provides a graphical, interactive display of analytics information over >>>> the past few days.
Provides access to computer-generated solutions in case you don’t want >>>> to post your EtreCheck report on the internet. Solutions include one or >>>> more step-by-step tasks you can follow to help resolve your computer
problems.
The Power User package is an optional in-app purchase. The price is USD >>>> $17.99 plus tax. The Power User package in EtreCheckPro can be activated >>>> on up to 6 separate machines. To purchase, you must download
EtreCheckPro and try it first. Afterwards, you can purchase the Power
User package within the software itself.
No need to answer anymore.
Thanks. I am familiar with what you have posted.
I *DID* purchase the Power User Package - but the developer, John
Daniels, refused to provide support by email. I requested, and have
subsequently received, a full refund.
Did you also read here? https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6172
If you got your money refunded on a software product that is generally a good sign that the company
is legit and releasing a quality product.
If it didn't work as you expected, why not move on and try something else? >> It happens.
Thank you for your advice, Helmut.
Are you aware of a product I could try which is similar to EtreCheck?
I've found Disk Utility (in Recovery Mode) the most helpful to get
things running smoothly again.
Are you aware of a product I could try which is similar to EtreCheck?
Are you aware of a product I could try which is similar to EtreCheck?
a hammer, aimed appropriately.
A hammer is not a product,
In article <KM5MK.1069809$X_i.455283@fx18.iad>, David Brooks <David@invalid.address> wrote:
Are you aware of a product I could try which is similar to EtreCheck?
a hammer, aimed appropriately.
On 2022-08-20, David Brooks <David@invalid.address> wrote:
On 20/08/2022 12:30, Helmut Achterberg wrote:
On 2022-08-19, David Brooks <David@invalid.address> wrote:
On 19/08/2022 22:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 20:12 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 17:36, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 19.08.22 um 17:31 schrieb David Brooks:
On 19/08/2022 16:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
No further comments needed. Crapware of the worst kind. Perhaps you >>>>>>>>> understand now why I do not know this software and I really think it is
redundant.
It's good to hear you say that! :-)
Do you have any suggestion as to how one can check the
before/after software installation changes on an Apple computer, rather
like the "InControl4" software mentioned by FromTheRafters?
After deleting and flushing the application from the "Applications" >>>>>>> Folder I just check the "Library" - "Application Support" whether I can >>>>>>> find residues of the flushed software. Check the "Home" for created >>>>>>> folders then use Spotlight to track further remote residues. Thats enough.
Mac OS is not Windows and has nothing comparable to the Registry. >>>>>>>
Before all that check whether there is an uninstaller from the software >>>>>>> manufacturer. But use it only if you trust it.
Thank you for your thoughts. You have, however, mis-understood something!
EtreCheck is NOT an Application which is installed - it therefore
doesn't HAVE an "uninstaller".
New definition of software/application and installation under Mac?
https://etrecheck.com/features
Core features
Detects over 70 specific problems and identifies them as serious or minor.
Generates a detailed text report describing the state of your computer. >>>>> You can review this report yourself or post it on the internet for
someone else to help you. The text report is anonymous, removing any >>>>> personal information to protect your privacy.
Clearly identifies major and minor issues and shows which part of the >>>>> report is responsible for the issue.
Identifies and helps you remove adware
Analyzes storage space and displays it in an interactive pie chart to >>>>> help you safely recover free space.
Power User package
Provides an advanced user interface with additional information, links >>>>> to information from Apple and other sources, and buttons to easily
access system settings and files in hidden directories.
Provides a graphical, interactive display of analytics information over >>>>> the past few days.
Provides access to computer-generated solutions in case you don’t want >>>>> to post your EtreCheck report on the internet. Solutions include one or >>>>> more step-by-step tasks you can follow to help resolve your computer >>>>> problems.
The Power User package is an optional in-app purchase. The price is USD >>>>> $17.99 plus tax. The Power User package in EtreCheckPro can be activated >>>>> on up to 6 separate machines. To purchase, you must download
EtreCheckPro and try it first. Afterwards, you can purchase the Power >>>>> User package within the software itself.
No need to answer anymore.
Thanks. I am familiar with what you have posted.
I *DID* purchase the Power User Package - but the developer, John
Daniels, refused to provide support by email. I requested, and have
subsequently received, a full refund.
Did you also read here? https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6172
If you got your money refunded on a software product that is generally a good sign that the company
is legit and releasing a quality product.
If it didn't work as you expected, why not move on and try something else? >>> It happens.
Thank you for your advice, Helmut.
Are you aware of a product I could try which is similar to EtreCheck?
I've found Disk Utility (in Recovery Mode) the most helpful to get
things running smoothly again.
I do not. I use Linux and have zero experience with Apple products other than my iphone and Apple
Watch both of which serve me very well.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
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| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 307 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 52:59:30 |
| Calls: | 6,912 |
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