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    From David Kennedy@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 10 10:19:20 2022
    https://apple.news/Abf7ExQ8FTRijdecv6Yfm6g

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to David Kennedy on Sun Jul 10 09:29:46 2022
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://apple.news/Abf7ExQ8FTRijdecv6Yfm6g

    Lets hope it doesn't become On Topic :(

    [depending on your interpretation of "OT"]

    You would like to think Apple has been thinking about this scenario
    and would be looking at other manufacturing and assembly options. But
    pigs don't fly.

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Graeme Wall on Sun Jul 10 10:04:54 2022
    On 2022-07-10, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
    On 10/07/2022 10:29, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://apple.news/Abf7ExQ8FTRijdecv6Yfm6g

    Lets hope it doesn't become On Topic :(

    [depending on your interpretation of "OT"]

    You would like to think Apple has been thinking about this scenario
    and would be looking at other manufacturing and assembly options. But
    pigs don't fly.


    Not just Apple, what percentage of any computer/phone systems don't rely
    on components from that part of the world?

    Yes I realise that. But China needs to weigh up the potential impact on
    its economy too. Let's also hope from North Korea isn't tempted to
    invade South Korea although I don't think the US would standby and let
    Kim get away with it.

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    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Graeme Wall@21:1/5 to Alan B on Sun Jul 10 10:44:41 2022
    On 10/07/2022 10:29, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://apple.news/Abf7ExQ8FTRijdecv6Yfm6g

    Lets hope it doesn't become On Topic :(

    [depending on your interpretation of "OT"]

    You would like to think Apple has been thinking about this scenario
    and would be looking at other manufacturing and assembly options. But
    pigs don't fly.


    Not just Apple, what percentage of any computer/phone systems don't rely
    on components from that part of the world?

    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to David Kennedy on Sun Jul 10 12:15:01 2022
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/07/2022 10:29, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://apple.news/Abf7ExQ8FTRijdecv6Yfm6g

    Lets hope it doesn't become On Topic :(

    [depending on your interpretation of "OT"]

    You would like to think Apple has been thinking about this scenario
    and would be looking at other manufacturing and assembly options. But
    pigs don't fly.

    Well, they do have some capacity in India

    Yes but they need to keep an eye on the working conditions and pay,
    especially after recent problems there.

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59818796>

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From David Kennedy@21:1/5 to Alan B on Sun Jul 10 13:01:53 2022
    On 10/07/2022 11:04, Alan B wrote:

    Yes I realise that. But China needs to weigh up the potential impact on
    its economy too. Let's also hope from North Korea isn't tempted to
    invade South Korea although I don't think the US would standby and let
    Kim get away with it.

    That would depend on how busy they were in (say) Ukraine and Taiwan etc.

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  • From David Kennedy@21:1/5 to Alan B on Sun Jul 10 13:02:33 2022
    On 10/07/2022 10:29, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://apple.news/Abf7ExQ8FTRijdecv6Yfm6g

    Lets hope it doesn't become On Topic :(

    [depending on your interpretation of "OT"]

    You would like to think Apple has been thinking about this scenario
    and would be looking at other manufacturing and assembly options. But
    pigs don't fly.

    Well, they do have some capacity in India

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to David Kennedy on Sun Jul 10 19:03:42 2022
    David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/07/2022 13:15, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/07/2022 10:29, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://apple.news/Abf7ExQ8FTRijdecv6Yfm6g

    Lets hope it doesn't become On Topic :(

    [depending on your interpretation of "OT"]

    You would like to think Apple has been thinking about this scenario
    and would be looking at other manufacturing and assembly options. But
    pigs don't fly.

    Well, they do have some capacity in India

    Yes but they need to keep an eye on the working conditions and pay,
    especially after recent problems there.

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59818796>

    I had thought that the problem had been resolved?

    That’s great! I guess I must have missed the update.

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From David Kennedy@21:1/5 to Alan B on Sun Jul 10 19:47:04 2022
    On 10/07/2022 13:15, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/07/2022 10:29, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://apple.news/Abf7ExQ8FTRijdecv6Yfm6g

    Lets hope it doesn't become On Topic :(

    [depending on your interpretation of "OT"]

    You would like to think Apple has been thinking about this scenario
    and would be looking at other manufacturing and assembly options. But
    pigs don't fly.

    Well, they do have some capacity in India

    Yes but they need to keep an eye on the working conditions and pay, especially after recent problems there.

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59818796>

    I had thought that the problem had been resolved?

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Alan B on Mon Jul 11 06:54:09 2022
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/07/2022 13:15, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/07/2022 10:29, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://apple.news/Abf7ExQ8FTRijdecv6Yfm6g

    Lets hope it doesn't become On Topic :(

    [depending on your interpretation of "OT"]

    You would like to think Apple has been thinking about this scenario
    and would be looking at other manufacturing and assembly options. But >>>>> pigs don't fly.

    Well, they do have some capacity in India

    Yes but they need to keep an eye on the working conditions and pay,
    especially after recent problems there.

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59818796>

    I had thought that the problem had been resolved?

    That’s great! I guess I must have missed the update.


    From what I’ve read, China, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines,
    Malaysia and Indonesia seem to be the places where most of the
    manufacturing takes place - well at least for iPhones. Apparently Apple
    are also looking at increasing production outside of China - India (as discussed above) and Vietnam seem to feature high on the list. Not much assembly seems to take place in the USA but maybe Apple will also enhance
    this?

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Alan B on Mon Jul 11 12:46:59 2022
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    On 2022-07-10, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://apple.news/Abf7ExQ8FTRijdecv6Yfm6g

    Lets hope it doesn't become On Topic :(

    [depending on your interpretation of "OT"]

    You would like to think Apple has been thinking about this scenario
    and would be looking at other manufacturing and assembly options. But
    pigs don't fly.

    But the real machinery for making things
    (the EUV lithography machines)
    is made by ASML in Veldhoven, the Netherlands.

    They can make more of the things,
    and station them somewhere else in the world.
    But that will take time.
    Anyway, they are not allowed to supply China
    with the latest generation.
    So that willblock Taiwan too, if China takes control,

    Jan

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