• new term needed for avatar/buddha/christ/messiah type

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 9 19:00:46 2023
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.messianic

    It seems I will have to try again, and that I will have
    to come up with other terms for avatar type (which I
    have also referred to as primary avatar type), devi
    type, and secondary avatar type. I once used the
    term Opener of the Way for avatar type, but if you
    google that I think you get an Egyptian reference
    and also some role playing game reference.

    How do I currently define avatar type and devi type?

    From https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/deities.html :

    "avatar type, like me, which means one similar to past
    figures who have been called avatars, who thus were similar
    to me, and who can align at least temporarily with any
    other someone, given permission of that other someone,
    which I relate to stories of Krishna making himself small
    or large"

    and I define the devi type as the main inspirer (of
    the same species as the avatar type) of the avatar type.

    Anyway, I have to come up with new terms for
    avatar type/primary avatar type and devi type.
    I guess it is OK to replace secondary avatar
    type by assisted shaktipat recipients, or a.s.r.
    but I will also consider other possible terms.

    Anyway, I welcome suggestions for a new term
    to replace avatar, buddha, christ/messiah (anointed
    one) type and I will think about it for a while
    before starting a new attempt.

    fool on the hill? ha.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
    This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
    Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sun Jul 9 21:49:54 2023
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.messianic

    In article <dalton-B62C8D.19004609072023@news.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:

    It seems I will have to try again, and that I will have
    to come up with other terms for avatar type (which I
    have also referred to as primary avatar type), devi
    type, and secondary avatar type. I once used the
    term Opener of the Way for avatar type, but if you
    google that I think you get an Egyptian reference
    and also some role playing game reference.

    How do I currently define avatar type and devi type?

    From https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/deities.html :

    "avatar type, like me, which means one similar to past
    figures who have been called avatars, who thus were similar
    to me, and who can align at least temporarily with any
    other someone, given permission of that other someone,
    which I relate to stories of Krishna making himself small
    or large"

    and I define the devi type as the main inspirer (of
    the same species as the avatar type) of the avatar type.

    Anyway, I have to come up with new terms for
    avatar type/primary avatar type and devi type.
    I guess it is OK to replace secondary avatar
    type by assisted shaktipat recipients, or a.s.r.
    but I will also consider other possible terms.

    Anyway, I welcome suggestions for a new term
    to replace avatar, buddha, christ/messiah (anointed
    one) type and I will think about it for a while
    before starting a new attempt.

    fool on the hill? ha.

    I also have considered the term global shaman for myself,
    but won't use it since I haven't yet mastered out of
    body travel, plus I want the term to apply to past
    figures who has smaller than global regions as well.

    Also I won't use the term Prophet since I think that
    term implies having received revelation, or voices
    in the head, which I and I think others I have called
    (primary) avatar types do/did not have.

    Since I think time is of the essence, for now, pending
    suggestions and discussion from others, I will replace
    avatar type/primary avatar type with Opener of the Way,
    or ootw.

    Secondary avatar type (after a.s.c. (5) is applied) I
    will call assisted shaktipat recipient, a.s.r.,
    or secondary ootw, or sootw.

    Devi type, main inspirer of the ootw, I will call
    mi-ootw, and she is always also a sootw.

    As noted in recent threads on alt.religion.druid,
    the mi-ootw is one of several (12 for me, 4 for
    the living bowhead whale ootw) multiple influencers
    of the ootw, who I will call min-ootws, who are
    always also sootws.

    My use of Opener of the Way is distinct from any
    Egyptian, game, or Robert Bloch book use of the
    term, and I came up with it before I was aware
    of those references.

    And again I will use this working terminology
    only until there is global consensus on new
    terminology, if ever, and I welcome suggestions
    from you.

    With that in mind I will shortly begin a new
    attempt on alt.religion.druid .

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
    This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
    Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 18:51:00 2023
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.messianic

    On Jul 9, 2023, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<dalton-B62C8D.19004609072023@news.eternal-september.org>):

    How do I currently define avatar type and devi type?

    From https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/deities.html :

    "avatar type, like me, which means one similar to past
    figures who have been called avatars, who thus were similar
    to me, and who can align at least temporarily with any
    other someone, given permission of that other someone,
    which I relate to stories of Krishna making himself small
    or large"

    and I define the devi type as the main inspirer (of
    the same species as the avatar type) of the avatar type.

    July 11, 2023. To get UTC add 2.5 hours.
    (World Population Day/Cheer Up The Lonely Day)

    6 p.m. FULL RESET, nothing is done/on/in-progress

    I cannot just use my old definition of avatar type to define ootw.

    I will still use ootw (Opener of the Way).

    But I will define it, for human ootws, as one who has undergone
    a sun stare, thorn hill climb, and blue rose vision.

    Cetacean ootws would have experienced the sun stare but an
    analogy to the thorn hill climb and probably an analogy to the
    blue rose vision.

    In the sun stare I got a peek into higher dimensions followed
    by a higher dimensional wraparound effect that I think
    augmented my higher dimensional body.

    This for some past figures, I think including Jesus in his
    baptism experience, has been known as anointing by
    the divine, leading to the terms christ and messiah, or
    anointed one.

    But of the figures I list on
    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/prelim.html and https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/parallels.html
    I generally have knowledge of only a partial match to
    my new ootw definition at best, with the best cases
    being Quetzalcoatl, Tsangyang Gyatso (who I perhaps
    incorrectly refer to as The Turquoise Bee), Jesus,
    and Moses (Taliesin matches other aspects of my
    mystic cycles, though in his poetry there is a reference
    to mountain of roses which might be mountain of the rose).

    HoweverI think that all those figures did match my
    definition of ootw, and at least I do. They also
    match other aspects of my cycles listed on https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/summary.html .

    And I still divine and believe that there have been
    1187 ootws (with regions smaller than global) in
    the last 14,000 years, with about half homo sapiens
    of many regions, and about half cetacean of many
    species and many regions.

    OK, I will shortly start a new opening of the way
    attempt on alt.religion.druid, which I will give the
    subject line “opening of the way, take two”.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
    This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
    Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

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