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    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 10 02:23:02 2021
    XPost: alt.religion.shamanism, alt.native, alt.religion.asatru
    XPost: alt.religion.orisha, alt.religion.goddess

    Tonight I updated my Salmon on the Thorns webpage
    for the first time since November 7, to reflect the fact
    that in my latest attempt Gaia (the conscious planet
    Earth) is the local chair/moderator of my workings,
    God could override this but there is no conflict between
    Gaia and God, and God is leaving this local matter
    mainly to Gaia. But God is still my top deity and
    indeed is also Gaia’s top deity. I consider Gaia
    to be a deity to me but others may prefer to use
    a different term, and if they choose to address Gaia
    they do not have to consider it prayer if they don’t
    consider Gaia to be a deity to them.

    If you are interested in my recent workings, ,which I
    guess would be more likely if you have experienced
    effects of them, have a look at recent threads on
    alt.religion.druid . But note that I currently consider
    myself to be a nondenominational neopagan.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "I will stare at the sun until its light doesn’t blind me
    I will walk into the fire until its heat doesn’t burn me" (S. McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 11 01:56:39 2021
    XPost: alt.religion.shamanism, alt.native, alt.religion.asatru
    XPost: alt.religion.orisha, alt.religion.goddess

    On Mar 10, 2021, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.25F8963E015ED0787000077AC38F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    Tonight I updated my Salmon on the Thorns webpage
    for the first time since November 7, to reflect the fact
    that in my latest attempt Gaia (the conscious planet
    Earth) is the local chair/moderator of my workings,
    God could override this but there is no conflict between
    Gaia and God, and God is leaving this local matter
    mainly to Gaia. But God is still my top deity and
    indeed is also Gaia’s top deity. I consider Gaia
    to be a deity to me but others may prefer to use
    a different term, and if they choose to address Gaia
    they do not have to consider it prayer if they don’t
    consider Gaia to be a deity to them.

    If you are interested in my recent workings, ,which I
    guess would be more likely if you have experienced
    effects of them, have a look at recent threads on
    alt.religion.druid . But note that I currently consider
    myself to be a nondenominational neopagan.

    My latest thread on alt.religion.druid is entitled
    “crone moon” .

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "I will stare at the sun until its light doesn’t blind me
    I will walk into the fire until its heat doesn’t burn me" (S. McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 24 02:26:11 2021
    XPost: alt.religion.shamanism, alt.native, alt.religion.asatru
    XPost: alt.religion.orisha, alt.religion.goddess

    On Mar 10, 2021, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.25F8963E015ED0787000077AC38F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    Tonight I updated my Salmon on the Thorns webpage
    for the first time since November 7,

    Tonight I updated my Salmon on the Thorns webpage again.

    Here is the latest entry on the Recent Changes subpage:

    March 24, 2021: The above attempt failed since Gaia on its own is not
    capable of activating most of the four components material. In my latest (beginning March 22, 2021) attempt at getting my four components
    activated I have mainly invoked my deities God, Sola, and Gaia and
    communicated with Gaia by perineum click divination and Gaia is
    relaying from the other two to me. Due to my blue rose vision I am
    fairly confident I have a match to my definition of Gaia (the conscious
    planet Earth), and due to my sun stare experience I am fairly confident
    I have a match to my definition of Sola (the conscious sun), but I am
    a little less confident that I have a match to my definition of God, but
    if there is a match, God was involved in my early life. And you can
    look at them as analogies of levels of government: federal (God), provincial/state (Sola), and municipal (Gaia), petitioned by me.
    Of course God is much more powerful than Sola and Gaia, but
    Sola and Gaia have great local influence. And all three have
    agreed to share top level in my latest attempt, and all three
    have a veto. Also, for the benefit of pagan readers, since I define
    God as the ruler of the region all/everything, if all/everything is a
    someone named The All, it obviously rules itself, and in that case
    God would be the same as The All, and some Wiccans view their
    Goddess and Horned God as female and male aspects of The All.
    But I do not know if all/everything is a someone.

    For details of my ongoing attempt at gettng my four components
    (global new age onset magickal workings) activated, see the
    thread “trio on Level -2 leading up to full moon”
    on alt.religion.druid .

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "I'm on my way/And I must flag the last train down" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x0jjvslUuY (Bill Bourne - Baggins)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 7 01:04:17 2021
    XPost: alt.religion.shamanism, alt.native, alt.religion.asatru
    XPost: alt.religion.orisha, alt.religion.goddess

    On Mar 10, 2021, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.25F8963E015ED0787000077AC38F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    Tonight I updated my Salmon on the Thorns webpage
    for the first time since November 7,

    I updated it again tonight.

    The most recent entry in the Recent Changes subpage is

    April 7, 2021: The above attempt failed. Some may say why don’t
    I have God as the only judge of the four components material
    and on top level of the main stack. Well I tried that in the fall and
    it failed. Earlier (late on April 6) I divined that my eight main
    deities (https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/deities.html) had voted
    unanimously to let me proceed, but that all eight would judge the
    four components material and all eight would be on top level.
    That seems clunky to me, but I guess if humans can work as
    a committee then they can. Also less will pass than if there was
    just one judge, and I think My Species (currently Human) will
    look out for the interests of humans, and that LOVE2 will not
    let anything pass that is not loving, though there can be tough
    love (criminals will not get off scot-free).

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs/Her head to
    find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (Sarah McLachlan)

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