• no new religion

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 11 13:39:11 2022
    XPost: alt.religion.druid, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic XPost: alt.religion

    I can't update my Salmon on the Thorns webpage from this old
    out of town laptop so I will make this statement here for now,
    and will update the webpage when I get back to town on Tuesday.

    I promise to not start a new religion, and forbid anyone else
    from starting a new religion in my name while I am alive and
    even after I am dead.

    While I was confirmed Catholic, I long ago renounced that
    and currently consider myself an individual neopagan.
    I promise to not join any organized religion again.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "But once there was a darkness, deep and endless night
    You gave me everything you had, oh you gave me light" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 11 23:04:15 2022
    XPost: alt.religion.druid, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic XPost: alt.religion

    On Jun 11, 2022, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<dalton.nfld-9A99B1.13391111062022@news.eternal-september.org>):

    I can't update my Salmon on the Thorns webpage from this old
    out of town laptop so I will make this statement here for now,
    and will update the webpage when I get back to town on Tuesday.

    I promise to not start a new religion, and forbid anyone else
    from starting a new religion in my name while I am alive and
    even after I am dead.

    While I was confirmed Catholic, I long ago renounced that
    and currently consider myself an individual neopagan.
    I promise to not join any organized religion again.

    It turns out I had to come to town tonight after all due to my
    brother needing to fo to Emergency, so I did update my
    Salmon on the Thorns webpage:

    Here is what I now have at the bottom of https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/deities.html :

    I promise to not start a new religion or denomination, and forbid anyone
    else from starting a new religion or denomination in my name while I am
    alive and even after I am dead. I also forbid anyone from considering me
    to be a deity to them while I am alive (and in terms of the main stack no living human is accepted as deity to another living human) and even after
    I am dead. Also I am sure that I am not the return of Jesus or any other
    past avatar type, but am just the latest in a long line of such avatar types, and think that avatar types and devi types go to the beyond-afterlife/heaven/nirvana after they die and do not reincarnate, but again past avatar types and past devi types are working from the beyond afterlife through my popthroughs.

    While I was confirmed Catholic, I long ago renounced that
    and currently consider myself an individual neopagan.
    I promise to not join any organized religion again.
    However, I have also promised
    my deities that after I come out of my low/wilderness years I will
    research druidism, traditional witchcraft, and celtic shamanism
    and may or may not then adjust my individual belief system.

    But my essential messages, which are non-religious,
    are for my people, the human species globally
    (or if evolution has occurred, the human species group, globally),
    to logically consider and accept or reject, and are backed by
    my similarity to past avatar types.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “‘Then you saw me from the cathedral/Well I'm an ancient heart/Yes,
    you saw me from the cathedral/And here we are just falling apart" (T.T.)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 12 01:56:34 2022
    XPost: alt.religion.druid, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic XPost: alt.religion

    On Jun 11, 2022, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.28557A170002B5FC70000B7FD38F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    On Jun 11, 2022, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<dalton.nfld-9A99B1.13391111062022@news.eternal-september.org>):

    I can't update my Salmon on the Thorns webpage from this old
    out of town laptop so I will make this statement here for now,
    and will update the webpage when I get back to town on Tuesday.

    I promise to not start a new religion, and forbid anyone else
    from starting a new religion in my name while I am alive and
    even after I am dead.

    While I was confirmed Catholic, I long ago renounced that
    and currently consider myself an individual neopagan.
    I promise to not join any organized religion again.

    It turns out I had to come to town tonight after all due to my
    brother needing to fo to Emergency, so I did update my
    Salmon on the Thorns webpage:

    Here is what I now have at the bottom of https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/deities.html :

    I promise to not start a new religion or denomination, and forbid anyone
    else from starting a new religion or denomination in my name while I am
    alive and even after I am dead. I also forbid anyone from considering me
    to be a deity to them while I am alive (and in terms of the main stack no living human is accepted as deity to another living human) and even after
    I am dead. Also I am sure that I am not the return of Jesus or any other
    past avatar type, but am just the latest in a long line of such avatar types, and think that avatar types and devi types go to the beyond-afterlife/heaven/nirvana after they die and do not reincarnate, but again past avatar types and past devi types are working from the beyond afterlife through my popthroughs.

    While I was confirmed Catholic, I long ago renounced that
    and currently consider myself an individual neopagan.
    I promise to not join any organized religion again.
    However, I have also promised
    my deities that after I come out of my low/wilderness years I will
    research druidism, traditional witchcraft, and celtic shamanism
    and may or may not then adjust my individual belief system.

    But my essential messages, which are non-religious,
    are for my people, the human species globally
    (or if evolution has occurred, the human species group, globally),
    to logically consider and accept or reject, and are backed by
    my similarity to past avatar types.

    Since some might have issue with the term avatar type, I edited
    the following slightly rambling paragraph just before the above
    three paragraphs on https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/deities.html :

    I'll eventually put back subpages on species someones and my
    minor deities (including Jesus and Taliesin), and on afterlife
    and beyond afterlife (which may be like Christian purgatory
    and heaven or Hindu afterlife and nirvana, and where there
    can be reincarnation from the first but not the second),
    and on soul, soul alignment, and avatar-2 (avatar type, like me,
    which means one similar to past figures who have been called avatars,
    who thus were similar to me, and who can align at least temporarily
    with any other someone, given permission of that other someone,
    which I relate to stories of Krishna making himself small or large)
    and avatar-1 (current avatar, who is aligned with one other someone).
    But I haven’t been detecting these current avatars lately, and it could
    be that my past such detections were delusional, e.g. Con O'Brien
    of The Irish Descendants with Amergin. Also I am open
    to discussion of a possible new term for avatar type.
    I have suggested Opener of the Way before but that has been
    used in other contexts. Also I define devi type as the main
    human inspirer of the avatar type (e.g. Sita for Rama, and Radha for
    Krishna, and Mary Magdalene for Jesus) but they are not
    necessarily romantically involved (e.g. Krishna is said to have
    married Rukmini and Satyabhama and not Radha by some sources).
    Again I am open to discussion of a possible new term for devi type.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “‘Then you saw me from the cathedral/Well I'm an ancient heart/Yes,
    you saw me from the cathedral/And here we are just falling apart" (T.T.)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Mon Jun 13 01:44:51 2022
    XPost: alt.religion.druid, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic XPost: alt.religion

    In article
    <0001HW.2855A27A0008C0D970000274938F@news.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:

    Since some might have issue with the term avatar type, ...

    My evidence that I am an avatar type is outlined on my
    Salmon on the Thorns webpage,
    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/dtales.html .

    The most important feature of my cycles is my sun stare,
    naked thorn hill climb, and blue rose (not lotus) vision
    of Sept. 5/6, 1991.

    However there are many other features which I list on
    the "Key features of my cycles" subpage, https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/summary.html .

    I discuss some past avatar types on the
    "Parallels in various world religions" subpage, https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/parallels.html .

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "But once there was a darkness, deep and endless night
    You gave me everything you had, oh you gave me light" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to dalton.nfld@gmail.com on Mon Jun 13 19:48:02 2022
    XPost: alt.religion.druid, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic XPost: alt.religion

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 01:44:51 -0230, David Dalton
    <dalton.nfld@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article
    <0001HW.2855A27A0008C0D970000274938F@news.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:


    Since some might have issue with the term avatar type, ...


    My evidence that I am an avatar type is outlined on my
    Salmon on the Thorns webpage,
    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/dtales.html .


    The most important feature of my cycles is my sun stare,
    naked thorn hill climb, and blue rose (not lotus) vision
    of Sept. 5/6, 1991.


    However there are many other features which I list on
    the "Key features of my cycles" subpage, https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/summary.html .


    I discuss some past avatar types on the
    "Parallels in various world religions" subpage, https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/parallels.html .


    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home
    page)
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns
    (mystic page)
    "But once there was a darkness, deep and endless night
    You gave me everything you had, oh you
    gave me light" (Sarah McLachlan)



    Thanks for keeping us informed, David.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Fri Jun 17 21:41:39 2022
    XPost: alt.religion.druid, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic XPost: alt.religion

    In article
    <dalton.nfld-9A99B1.13391111062022@news.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton.nfld@gmail.com> wrote:

    I can't update my Salmon on the Thorns webpage from this old
    out of town laptop so I will make this statement here for now,
    and will update the webpage when I get back to town on Tuesday.

    I promise to not start a new religion, and forbid anyone else
    from starting a new religion in my name while I am alive and
    even after I am dead.

    While I was confirmed Catholic, I long ago renounced that
    and currently consider myself an individual neopagan.
    I promise to not join any organized religion again.

    How did I renounce my confirmation, and my membership in
    the Roman Catholic Church?

    1. in letter to the then priest of the church in which I
    was confirmed,

    2. in a letter to Pope John Paul II, which almost definitely
    was not read by him but probably was read by somebody
    at the Vatican,

    3. out loud to the Christian God.

    In addition I have funnelled many spells and rituals that have
    hit me, including the four Catholic sacraments of baptism,
    communion, confession, and confirmation, to be adjusted by
    my Goddess (who many call God). I think that after adjustment
    those four no longer convey organizational bondage or a
    requirement to worship, but do facilitate worship for those
    who wish to do it, and may provide some protection.

    And it could be that those four rituals did affect my
    progress since then.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "But once there was a darkness, deep and endless night
    You gave me everything you had, oh you gave me light" (Sarah McLachlan)

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