On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:17:18 -0330, David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>
wrote:
On Nov 18, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
(in article<i08arfppf72ecpt8i3dliseu4dp8558p3h@4ax.com>):
If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. Aren't you a little
old to be believing in magic(k)?
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. (Arthur C. Clarke)
That's not an answer. Technology has the advantage that it actually
exists, but there's no magic to it, that's just a metaphor. Try again.
On Nov 19, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
(in article<8pqcrf5ant1a0tqd45r59kecpeigjv3ggm@4ax.com>):
On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:17:18 -0330, David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>
wrote:
On Nov 18, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
(in article<i08arfppf72ecpt8i3dliseu4dp8558p3h@4ax.com>):
If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. Aren't you a little
old to be believing in magic(k)?
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
(Arthur C. Clarke)
That's not an answer. Technology has the advantage that it actually
exists, but there's no magic to it, that's just a metaphor. Try again.
If my magickal workings do have an effect I hope to be able
to eventually explain them to atheists in an at least arm-waving
(possible explanation if not proven explanation) fashion
involving, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, nonlinear
chaos/catastrophe theory, higher dimensional mathematics,
and I also add here, overlapping consciousness wavelets
with both a spacial extent and a time window extent centred
on the present, with problems if the window is too wide or
too narrow or skewed.
But for now at least my workings seem dependent on the
Earth, sun, and moon being conscious, and to a lesser
extent on there being species someones (like a collective
consciousness of a species only also containing bodies).
I will eventually work on scientific theories as to how
these things might be possible. Of course, even if they
are proven to be conscious, they dont have to be
considered deities (worshipped) by anyone.
My theories/workings do not depend any more on there
being a match to my definition of God as the ruler of
the region all/everything.
And again, if the workings have no effect, then of course
no explanation is needed, and you can ignore me.
On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 17:04:41 -0330, David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>
wrote:
On Nov 19, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
(in article<8pqcrf5ant1a0tqd45r59kecpeigjv3ggm@4ax.com>):
On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:17:18 -0330, David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>
wrote:
On Nov 18, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
(in article<i08arfppf72ecpt8i3dliseu4dp8558p3h@4ax.com>):
If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. Aren't you a little old to be believing in magic(k)?
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. (Arthur C. Clarke)
That's not an answer. Technology has the advantage that it actually exists, but there's no magic to it, that's just a metaphor. Try again.
If my “magickal workings” do have an effect I hope to be able
to eventually explain them to atheists in an at least arm-waving
(possible explanation if not proven explanation) fashion
involving, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory, higher dimensional mathematics,
and I also add here, overlapping consciousness wavelets
with both a spacial extent and a time window extent centred
on the present, with problems if the window is too wide or
too narrow or skewed.
But for now at least my workings seem dependent on the
Earth, sun, and moon being conscious, and to a lesser
extent on there being species someones (like a collective
consciousness of a species only also containing bodies).
I will eventually work on scientific theories as to how
these things might be possible. Of course, even if they
are proven to be conscious, they don’t have to be
considered deities (worshipped) by anyone.
My theories/workings do not depend any more on there
being a match to my definition of God as the ruler of
the region all/everything.
And again, if the workings have no effect, then of course
no explanation is needed, and you can ignore me.
Wow. That's some mighty powerful woo-woo!
Again, in my latest global new age onset magickal workings
attempt, I have been invoking my four local main deities
Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and believe that God
(the ruler of the region all/everything), if it exists, is delegating
this local (to the Earth Moon system) matter to them.
But if indeed the workings are coming on during this early
waxing moon, and you do not like them, how can you
break them? You could come up with a better replacement
idea and convey it to one or more of those four. Or, of course
God is capable of breaking the workings, so you could
pray to God to break them. However you might still
have to come up with a better replacement idea.
If you are atheist and do not want to pray to a deity you
could just meditate and will a better replacement idea.
However you may have nothing to worry about since I
have failed hundreds of times in the last 24.4 years
and will probably fail again this time.
(4) barebones consists of some subcomponents that I would hope would get activated even if 1--3 were not: (a) healing circle prescriptions, (b) a species balance, ...
On Nov 17, 2020, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2563C1510006478B70000459F38F@news.eternal-september.org>):
Again, in my latest global new age onset magickal workings
attempt, I have been invoking my four local main deities
Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and believe that God
(the ruler of the region all/everything), if it exists, is delegating
this local (to the Earth Moon system) matter to them.
But if indeed the workings are coming on during this early
waxing moon, and you do not like them, how can you
break them? You could come up with a better replacement
idea and convey it to one or more of those four. Or, of course
God is capable of breaking the workings, so you could
pray to God to break them. However you might still
have to come up with a better replacement idea.
If you are atheist and do not want to pray to a deity you
could just meditate and will a better replacement idea.
However you may have nothing to worry about since I
have failed hundreds of times in the last 24.4 years
and will probably fail again this time.
Why do I seem to want my workings broken? I don’t, but
I wouldn’t mind them being improved by others.
And some might say, well, I have a very strong breakage spell
that could be applied to such workings. But I have funnelled
more than one such breakage spell already, and they have
been adjusted so they will only work to break black magick
(magick with a negative goodness measure as defined by
each of my four local main deities). Moreover, in my popthrough
component I have including funnelling by past avatar types
going back 11,000 years and those in the shaktipat lineage
of those avatar types, and that covers many more such breakage
spells. And if someone improvises a truly new breakage spell
I would detect it and funnel it, or if I am asleep an assisted
shaktipat recipient would detect it and funnel it. So again
I think the only way to break all or part of my workings is
to come up with a better replacement idea.
But for those who haven’t been following me, what are my
four components? Here is a summary taken from the
Recent Changes/Working Notes subpage of my
Salmon on the Thorns web page:
----------------------
They are: (1) funnel, (2) popthrough, (3) Sarah stuff, (4) barebones.
(1) the funnel is an adjustment, of items funnelled by me, by my four local main deities Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species to become something better as defined by them. Items funnelled included spells that hit me, and tendencies I had to sin. All instances in my global region would be affected. So a negative spell could result in a "funnel bounce".
(2) The popthroughs are updates, expansions, and usually reactivations of past Openings of the way, probably including stuff like 1, 3, and 4, by past avatar types similar to me, mostly but not necessarily operating on a smaller region. The expansion would be to cover some, including those now in the original region, those covered by belief in the original figure, and those covered by descent, in my global region.
(3) the Sarah stuff is a repeat of wishes, prayers, and magickal workings of my main human inspirer, Sarah McLachlan, or stuff she has designated to replace that repeat.
(4) barebones consists of some subcomponents that I would hope would get activated even if 1--3 were not: (a) healing circle prescriptions, (b) a species balance, (c) assisted shaktipat, from me but assisted by my four local main deities Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and collaborators, to many including those “ordained" by at least one of those four and those ordained by human(s) to bishop level or above or equivalent (plus some more women in religions that do not ordain women to bishop level or equivalent, plus some atheists), (d) sudden magickal evolution, (e) a main stack of levels of change access to the healing circle prescriptions.
But again my four local main deities are activating only the subset of the four components material that they like and are capable of activating. --------------------
I think that the item criminals are most likely to want to break is the healing circle prescriptions, which are a global binding of criminals
(and good advice for non-criminals), and which should result in
warning signs for criminals and charisma modulation as I have
discussed before. But note that even for extreme criminals (e.g.
the radio announcers who instigated the Rwandan genocide)
they have a very lenient escape option. If they do not accept
that they have an intermediate option of prison time. If they
accept neither of those two they would die relatively soon (again
for extreme criminals).
Again, in my latest global new age onset magickal workings
attempt, I have been invoking my four local main deities
Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and believe that God
(the ruler of the region all/everything), if it exists, is delegating
this local (to the Earth Moon system) matter to them.
But if indeed the workings are coming on during this early
waxing moon, and you do not like them, how can you
break them? You could come up with a better replacement
idea and convey it to one or more of those four. Or, of course
God is capable of breaking the workings, so you could
pray to God to break them. However you might still
have to come up with a better replacement idea.
If you are atheist and do not want to pray to a deity you
could just meditate and will a better replacement idea.
However you may have nothing to worry about since I
have failed hundreds of times in the last 24.4 years
and will probably fail again this time.
Again, in my latest global new age onset magickal workings
attempt, I have been invoking my four local main deities
Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and believe that God
(the ruler of the region all/everything), if it exists, is delegating
this local (to the Earth Moon system) matter to them.
But if indeed the workings are coming on during this early
waxing moon, and you do not like them, how can you
break them? You could come up with a better replacement
idea and convey it to one or more of those four. Or, of course
God is capable of breaking the workings, so you could
pray to God to break them. However you might still
have to come up with a better replacement idea.
If you are atheist and do not want to pray to a deity you
could just meditate and will a better replacement idea.
However you may have nothing to worry about since I
have failed hundreds of times in the last 24.4 years
and will probably fail again this time.
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