• Biden economy prices Pacific NorthWest May 15, 2024

    From Bank of America@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 16 08:26:52 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Colour Sergeant Bourne@21:1/5 to Bank of America on Thu May 16 14:34:47 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/16/24 4:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    If that was my diet, I'd get to my doc and ask for a referral to the lab
    for a fasting lipid profile with a detailed breakout of cholesterol
    numbers ;-)

    --
    Luke, what’s your dirt doing in Boss Keen’s ditch?
    - Boss Paul

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From slothe@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 16 21:39:28 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 16 May 2024, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> posted some news:v25jk7$1muhe$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/16/24 4:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    If that was my diet, I'd get to my doc and ask for a referral to the
    lab for a fasting lipid profile with a detailed breakout of
    cholesterol numbers ;-)

    Partial credit for the beans. High in fibre and blocks some cholesterol absorption. It will help offset that lemon cake. Think I'll pick some
    of that up later.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Joe Money@21:1/5 to clueless on Fri May 17 06:02:06 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    In <v25l49$1n8vv$1@dont-email.me> clueless wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 1:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    I wonder why the grocery stores and manufacturers have seen their
    profits go up sometimes twice as much as their prices.

    How did Biden do that?

    He put his open palm out first and looked the other direction as soon as he felt something in it.

    As usual.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Frank <"frank@21:1/5 to Joe Money on Fri May 17 10:20:38 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/17/2024 6:02 AM, Joe Money wrote:
    In <v25l49$1n8vv$1@dont-email.me> clueless wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 1:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    I wonder why the grocery stores and manufacturers have seen their
    profits go up sometimes twice as much as their prices.

    How did Biden do that?

    He put his open palm out first and looked the other direction as soon as he felt something in it.

    As usual.

    Corporate greed did not occur until Biden became president. Apparently
    they think it is something new.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to "@frank.net on Fri May 17 14:56:14 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote in news:v27p3o$27opn$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/17/2024 6:02 AM, Joe Money wrote:
    In <v25l49$1n8vv$1@dont-email.me> clueless wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 1:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    I wonder why the grocery stores and manufacturers have seen their
    profits go up sometimes twice as much as their prices.

    How did Biden do that?

    He put his open palm out first and looked the other direction as soon
    as he felt something in it.

    As usual.

    Corporate greed did not occur until Biden became president.
    Apparently they think it is something new.


    Really?!!! What stupidity!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Frank <"frank@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri May 17 11:32:42 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/17/2024 10:56 AM, Baxter wrote:
    Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote in news:v27p3o$27opn$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/17/2024 6:02 AM, Joe Money wrote:
    In <v25l49$1n8vv$1@dont-email.me> clueless wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 1:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    I wonder why the grocery stores and manufacturers have seen their
    profits go up sometimes twice as much as their prices.

    How did Biden do that?

    He put his open palm out first and looked the other direction as soon
    as he felt something in it.

    As usual.

    Corporate greed did not occur until Biden became president.
    Apparently they think it is something new.


    Really?!!! What stupidity!!

    No need to think if you are a liberal.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Frank on Fri May 17 13:17:17 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/17/2024 10:20 AM, Frank wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 6:02 AM, Joe Money wrote:
    In <v25l49$1n8vv$1@dont-email.me> clueless wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 1:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    I wonder why the grocery stores and manufacturers have seen their
    profits go up sometimes twice as much as their prices.

    How did Biden do that?

    He put his open palm out first and looked the other direction as soon
    as he
    felt something in it.

    As usual.

    Corporate greed did not occur until Biden became president.  Apparently
    they think it is something new.

    Corporate greed has been growing well for a couple of decades now.

    The average CEO-to-worker pay ratio was 272-to-1 for S&P 500 Index
    companies in 2022; overall, U.S. workers’ real hourly wages fell in 2022
    for the second year in a row by -1.6% after adjusting for inflation.

    https://aflcio.org/executive-paywatch-0

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Akidasar@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri May 17 14:13:48 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On Fri, 17 May 2024 14:56:14 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Corporate greed did not occur until Biden became president.
    Apparently they think it is something new.


    Really?!!! What stupidity!!

    Uniparty still is a concept that baffles you isn't it nutless?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Colour Sergeant Bourne@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri May 17 16:58:15 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/17/24 1:17 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 10:20 AM, Frank wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 6:02 AM, Joe Money wrote:
    In <v25l49$1n8vv$1@dont-email.me> clueless wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 1:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    I wonder why the grocery stores and manufacturers have seen their
    profits go up sometimes twice as much as their prices.

    How did Biden do that?

    He put his open palm out first and looked the other direction as soon
    as he
    felt something in it.

    As usual.

    Corporate greed did not occur until Biden became president.
    Apparently they think it is something new.

    Corporate greed has been growing well for a couple of decades now.

    The average CEO-to-worker pay ratio was 272-to-1 for S&P 500 Index
    companies in 2022; overall, U.S. workers’ real hourly wages fell in 2022 for the second year in a row by -1.6% after adjusting for inflation.

    https://aflcio.org/executive-paywatch-0

    Never could get my mind around the concept fo "corporate greed."

    You start a company, the idea is to make money, if you do well and make
    a lot, all of a sudden you;re "greedy?"

    Got any stocks or mutual funds in your IRA of 401k? Do you hope they do
    well and increase the balance in your account-- or do you hope they're
    not "greedy?"

    Corporate greed is a foolish naive liberal mantra ;-)

    --
    Liberals change facts to fit their ideology. It's easier than changing
    their ideology to fit the facts.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Colour Sergeant Bourne on Fri May 17 20:59:41 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/17/2024 4:58 PM, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
    On 5/17/24 1:17 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 10:20 AM, Frank wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 6:02 AM, Joe Money wrote:
    In <v25l49$1n8vv$1@dont-email.me> clueless wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 1:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    I wonder why the grocery stores and manufacturers have seen their
    profits go up sometimes twice as much as their prices.

    How did Biden do that?

    He put his open palm out first and looked the other direction as
    soon as he
    felt something in it.

    As usual.

    Corporate greed did not occur until Biden became president.
    Apparently they think it is something new.

    Corporate greed has been growing well for a couple of decades now.

    The average CEO-to-worker pay ratio was 272-to-1 for S&P 500 Index
    companies in 2022; overall, U.S. workers’ real hourly wages fell in
    2022 for the second year in a row by -1.6% after adjusting for inflation.

    https://aflcio.org/executive-paywatch-0

    Never could get my mind around the concept fo "corporate greed."

    You start a company, the idea is to make money, if you do well and make
    a lot, all of a sudden you;re "greedy?"

    Got any stocks or mutual funds in your IRA of 401k? Do you hope they do
    well and increase the balance in your account-- or do you hope they're
    not "greedy?"

    Corporate greed is a foolish naive liberal mantra ;-)


    Sure, they should make a profit, they cannot exist without it. Look at
    the proportions though. Many of the earners of multi-million dollar
    wages did not start the business but take a lot from it, while the
    peasants working for them often get paid meager wages. What is a fair
    ratio? You can be the genius that started a big company, but you need
    the grunts doing the daily chores. Pay them fairly.

    do you pay taxes? Good, thanks for contributing to society. Many big corporation pay none.

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was
    344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average, CEOs
    received more than 344 times the annual average salary of production and nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their firm

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From T@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri May 17 18:58:35 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/17/24 17:59, Ed P wrote:
    Never could get my mind around the concept fo "corporate greed."

    You start a company, the idea is to make money, if you do well and
    make a lot, all of a sudden you;re "greedy?"

    Got any stocks or mutual funds in your IRA of 401k? Do you hope they
    do well and increase the balance in your account-- or do you hope
    they're not "greedy?"

    Corporate greed is a foolish naive liberal mantra 😉


    Sure, they should make a profit, they cannot exist without it.  Look at
    the proportions though.  Many of the earners of multi-million dollar
    wages did not start the business but take a lot from it, while the
    peasants working for them often get paid meager wages.  What is a fair ratio?  You can be the genius that started a big company, but you need
    the grunts doing the daily chores.  Pay them fairly.

    do you pay taxes?  Good, thanks for contributing to society.  Many big corporation pay none.

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was
    344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average, CEOs
    received more than 344 times the annual average salary of production and nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their firm


    So what. The market dictates this. If the CEO's
    a producing, it its the company's business what they
    reward their employees with.

    What is your solution? Fascism, where the government
    (anointed) takes direct control of industry distribution
    of profits?

    ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 17 22:18:49 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/17/2024 9:58 PM, T wrote:
    On 5/17/24 17:59, Ed P wrote:
    Never could get my mind around the concept fo "corporate greed."

    You start a company, the idea is to make money, if you do well and
    make a lot, all of a sudden you;re "greedy?"

    Got any stocks or mutual funds in your IRA of 401k? Do you hope they
    do well and increase the balance in your account-- or do you hope
    they're not "greedy?"

    Corporate greed is a foolish naive liberal mantra 😉


    Sure, they should make a profit, they cannot exist without it.  Look
    at the proportions though.  Many of the earners of multi-million
    dollar wages did not start the business but take a lot from it, while
    the peasants working for them often get paid meager wages.  What is a
    fair ratio?  You can be the genius that started a big company, but you
    need the grunts doing the daily chores.  Pay them fairly.

    do you pay taxes?  Good, thanks for contributing to society.  Many big
    corporation pay none.

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio
    was 344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average, CEOs
    received more than 344 times the annual average salary of production
    and nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their firm


    So what.  The market dictates this.  If the CEO's
    a producing, it its the company's business what they
    reward their employees with.

    What is your solution?  Fascism, where the government
    (anointed) takes direct control of industry distribution
    of profits?

    ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!



    Wages and working conditions is how unions got started. Seems they are
    making some inroads to new places in the past few years.

    Don't want your workers unionized? Treat them fairly and pay a decent
    wage.

    I have no idea why you brought fascism into the conversation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to T@invalid.invalid on Sat May 18 02:37:40 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:v2920b$2j62u$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/17/24 17:59, Ed P wrote:
    Never could get my mind around the concept fo "corporate greed."

    You start a company, the idea is to make money, if you do well and
    make a lot, all of a sudden you;re "greedy?"

    Got any stocks or mutual funds in your IRA of 401k? Do you hope they
    do well and increase the balance in your account-- or do you hope
    they're not "greedy?"

    Corporate greed is a foolish naive liberal mantra 😉


    Sure, they should make a profit, they cannot exist without it.  Look
    at the proportions though.  Many of the earners of multi-million
    dollar wages did not start the business but take a lot from it, while
    the peasants working for them often get paid meager wages.  What is
    a fair ratio?  You can be the genius that started a big company, but
    you need the grunts doing the daily chores.  Pay them fairly.

    do you pay taxes?  Good, thanks for contributing to society.  Many
    big corporation pay none.

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio
    was 344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average, CEOs
    received more than 344 times the annual average salary of production
    and nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their firm


    So what. The market dictates this. If the CEO's
    a producing,

    CEOs don't produce anything - they are takers, It's the workers that
    produce the product and the wealth. Worker get's paid $10/hour to
    produce $100/hour of product - the bulk of that other $90 goes into the
    CEO's pocket.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri May 17 21:26:52 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/17/24 19:37, Baxter wrote:
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:v2920b$2j62u$1@dont-email.me:


    So what. The market dictates this. If the CEO's
    a producing,

    CEOs don't produce anything - they are takers, It's the workers that
    produce the product and the wealth. Worker get's paid $10/hour to
    produce $100/hour of product - the bulk of that other $90 goes into the
    CEO's pocket.

    The market dictates that. You get paid higher for
    work if it is something more difficult you do.
    If you are doing something anyone can do, you get
    paid lower.

    Here is how freedom works: you are forced meet you
    own needs by meeting other's needs.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From T@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri May 17 21:23:42 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/17/24 19:18, Ed P wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 9:58 PM, T wrote:
    On 5/17/24 17:59, Ed P wrote:
    Never could get my mind around the concept fo "corporate greed."

    You start a company, the idea is to make money, if you do well and
    make a lot, all of a sudden you;re "greedy?"

    Got any stocks or mutual funds in your IRA of 401k? Do you hope they
    do well and increase the balance in your account-- or do you hope
    they're not "greedy?"

    Corporate greed is a foolish naive liberal mantra 😉


    Sure, they should make a profit, they cannot exist without it.  Look
    at the proportions though.  Many of the earners of multi-million
    dollar wages did not start the business but take a lot from it, while
    the peasants working for them often get paid meager wages.  What is a
    fair ratio?  You can be the genius that started a big company, but
    you need the grunts doing the daily chores.  Pay them fairly.

    do you pay taxes?  Good, thanks for contributing to society.  Many
    big corporation pay none.

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio
    was 344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average, CEOs
    received more than 344 times the annual average salary of production
    and nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their firm


    So what.  The market dictates this.  If the CEO's
    a producing, it its the company's business what they
    reward their employees with.

    What is your solution?  Fascism, where the government
    (anointed) takes direct control of industry distribution
    of profits?

    ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!



    Wages and working conditions is how unions got started.  Seems they are making some inroads to new places in the past few years.

    Don't want your workers unionized?  Treat them fairly and pay a decent
    wage.

    Some unions are good; some unions are bad. There have been
    times in my professional life I had wished I had the option
    to join one. As long as Unions are voluntary, I have no
    issue with them.

    I might add that the best way to increase conditions and
    wages is a thriving economic that dries up the labor pool,
    forcing employers to complete for employees. We had than
    under Trump. Not with His Fraudulency.

    I have no idea why you brought fascism into the conversation.

    Because I believe you are a Fascist, right out of the
    pages of the Fascist manifesto. You know, the Left
    Wing pigs that believed they had perfected Marxist
    Communism.

    Here is where I see you going when you carry on about
    the wages companies pay their employees, which by the
    way, is none of your freaking business:

    We demand the nationalization of all (previous)
    associated industries (trusts).

    We demand a division of profits of all heavy
    industries.

    Guess what Left Wing pigs that comes from? Sound like
    you?

    Freedom, it is a scary thing to the anointed.

    ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Colour Sergeant Bourne@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat May 18 08:59:01 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/17/24 8:59 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 4:58 PM, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
    On 5/17/24 1:17 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 10:20 AM, Frank wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 6:02 AM, Joe Money wrote:
    In <v25l49$1n8vv$1@dont-email.me> clueless wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 1:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    I wonder why the grocery stores and manufacturers have seen their
    profits go up sometimes twice as much as their prices.

    How did Biden do that?

    He put his open palm out first and looked the other direction as
    soon as he
    felt something in it.

    As usual.

    Corporate greed did not occur until Biden became president.
    Apparently they think it is something new.

    Corporate greed has been growing well for a couple of decades now.

    The average CEO-to-worker pay ratio was 272-to-1 for S&P 500 Index
    companies in 2022; overall, U.S. workers’ real hourly wages fell in
    2022 for the second year in a row by -1.6% after adjusting for
    inflation.

    https://aflcio.org/executive-paywatch-0

    Never could get my mind around the concept fo "corporate greed."

    You start a company, the idea is to make money, if you do well and
    make a lot, all of a sudden you;re "greedy?"

    Got any stocks or mutual funds in your IRA of 401k? Do you hope they
    do well and increase the balance in your account-- or do you hope
    they're not "greedy?"

    Corporate greed is a foolish naive liberal mantra ;-)


    Sure, they should make a profit, they cannot exist without it.  Look at
    the proportions though.  Many of the earners of multi-million dollar
    wages did not start the business but take a lot from it, while the
    peasants working for them often get paid meager wages.  What is a fair ratio?  You can be the genius that started a big company, but you need
    the grunts doing the daily chores.  Pay them fairly.

    do you pay taxes?  Good, thanks for contributing to society.  Many big corporation pay none.

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was
    344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average, CEOs
    received more than 344 times the annual average salary of production and nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their firm

    So what...

    --
    If you don’t want minimum wage, don’t have minimum skills

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ralph Mowery@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 18 09:37:38 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    In article <v29amc$2kfn2$2@dont-email.me>, T@invalid.invalid says...

    The market dictates that. You get paid higher for
    work if it is something more difficult you do.
    If you are doing something anyone can do, you get
    paid lower.

    Here is how freedom works: you are forced meet you
    own needs by meeting other's needs.




    Sometimes one gets paid more for a job that anyone can do but no no one
    wants to do.

    Talk about over paid I just saw where a rookie baseball player has a
    contract for over 100 million dollsrs. After only a few games he was
    injured and is out for the season. Not sure how it will affect him for
    later years. He will still get paid millions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Frank <"frank@21:1/5 to Ralph Mowery on Sat May 18 09:59:16 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/18/2024 9:37 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <v29amc$2kfn2$2@dont-email.me>, T@invalid.invalid says...

    The market dictates that. You get paid higher for
    work if it is something more difficult you do.
    If you are doing something anyone can do, you get
    paid lower.

    Here is how freedom works: you are forced meet you
    own needs by meeting other's needs.




    Sometimes one gets paid more for a job that anyone can do but no no one
    wants to do.

    Talk about over paid I just saw where a rookie baseball player has a
    contract for over 100 million dollsrs. After only a few games he was
    injured and is out for the season. Not sure how it will affect him for
    later years. He will still get paid millions.


    It is funny that no one complains about this or the entertainers that
    are billionaires. I do not know what concert or game tickets cost when
    I was a kid but now they are outrageous. People pay but do not complain.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to T@invalid.invalid on Sat May 18 14:53:21 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:v29age$2kfn2$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/17/24 19:18, Ed P wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 9:58 PM, T wrote:
    On 5/17/24 17:59, Ed P wrote:
    Never could get my mind around the concept fo "corporate greed."

    You start a company, the idea is to make money, if you do well and
    make a lot, all of a sudden you;re "greedy?"

    Got any stocks or mutual funds in your IRA of 401k? Do you hope
    they do well and increase the balance in your account-- or do you
    hope they're not "greedy?"

    Corporate greed is a foolish naive liberal mantra 😉


    Sure, they should make a profit, they cannot exist without it. 
    Look at the proportions though.  Many of the earners of
    multi-million dollar wages did not start the business but take a
    lot from it, while the peasants working for them often get paid
    meager wages.  What is a fair ratio?  You can be the genius that
    started a big company, but you need the grunts doing the daily
    chores.  Pay them fairly.

    do you pay taxes?  Good, thanks for contributing to society. 
    Many big corporation pay none.

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio
    was 344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average,
    CEOs received more than 344 times the annual average salary of
    production and nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their
    firm


    So what.  The market dictates this.  If the CEO's
    a producing, it its the company's business what they
    reward their employees with.

    What is your solution?  Fascism, where the government
    (anointed) takes direct control of industry distribution
    of profits?

    ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!



    Wages and working conditions is how unions got started.  Seems they
    are making some inroads to new places in the past few years.

    Don't want your workers unionized?  Treat them fairly and pay a
    decent wage.

    Some unions are good; some unions are bad. There have been
    times in my professional life I had wished I had the option
    to join one. As long as Unions are voluntary, I have no
    issue with them.

    I might add that the best way to increase conditions and
    wages is a thriving economic that dries up the labor pool,
    forcing employers to complete for employees. We had than
    under Trump. Not with His Fraudulency.

    No we didn't. tRump inherited a good economy from Obama, then blew it - unemployment
    under tRump was greater than any time in the Great Recession and rose to over 16%

    Uemployment under Biden is currently 3.7%

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to T@invalid.invalid on Sat May 18 14:55:29 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:v29amc$2kfn2$2@dont-email.me:

    On 5/17/24 19:37, Baxter wrote:
    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:v2920b$2j62u$1@dont-email.me:


    So what. The market dictates this. If the CEO's
    a producing,

    CEOs don't produce anything - they are takers, It's the workers that
    produce the product and the wealth. Worker get's paid $10/hour to
    produce $100/hour of product - the bulk of that other $90 goes into
    the
    CEO's pocket.

    The market dictates that. You get paid higher for
    work if it is something more difficult you do.
    If you are doing something anyone can do, you get
    paid lower.

    Here is how freedom works: you are forced meet you
    own needs by meeting other's needs.



    You're fucking full of shit - nothing you said negates the fact that
    workers are the ones producing the value and the CEOs are Takers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Colour Sergeant Bourne on Sat May 18 15:27:29 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 2024-05-18, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:
    On 5/17/24 8:59 PM, Ed P wrote:

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was
    344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average, CEOs
    received more than 344 times the annual average salary of production and
    nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their firm

    So what...

    European and Japanese CEOs manage to scrape by on a ratio of somewhere
    around 57 (European) and between 12 and 50 (Japan).

    In the U.S. their compensation is a way of keeping score against other
    CEOs. It's got nothing to do with how effective they are at their job.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Frank <"frank@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 18 12:38:33 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/18/2024 11:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2024-05-18, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:
    On 5/17/24 8:59 PM, Ed P wrote:

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was
    344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average, CEOs
    received more than 344 times the annual average salary of production and >>> nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their firm

    So what...

    European and Japanese CEOs manage to scrape by on a ratio of somewhere
    around 57 (European) and between 12 and 50 (Japan).

    In the U.S. their compensation is a way of keeping score against other
    CEOs. It's got nothing to do with how effective they are at their job.


    I think their keeping score is also with the athletes and entertainers
    making more money.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From micky@21:1/5 to rmowery42@charter.net on Sat May 18 13:39:17 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 18 May 2024 09:37:38 -0400, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

    In article <v29amc$2kfn2$2@dont-email.me>, T@invalid.invalid says...

    The market dictates that. You get paid higher for
    work if it is something more difficult you do.
    If you are doing something anyone can do, you get
    paid lower.

    Here is how freedom works: you are forced meet you
    own needs by meeting other's needs.




    Sometimes one gets paid more for a job that anyone can do but no no one
    wants to do.

    Talk about over paid I just saw where a rookie baseball player has a
    contract for over 100 million dollsrs. After only a few games he was
    injured and is out for the season. Not sure how it will affect him for
    later years. He will still get paid millions.

    That something can be televised, or shown in movies, to millions of
    people, enables themm to pay such high amounts.

    Day care workers could make a lot more money if they could increase the
    number of babies they take care of by, say, a factor of 10. Maybe a
    machine that would change diapers, and a conveyor belt. A diaper
    machine might cost $20,000, but if it would mean they only need 1
    persopn to diaper 100 babies instead of 5, they could lower rates and
    would still have a lot more money for salaries. (A compputer controlled
    diaper machine might cost $40,000, but they could advertise that they
    are state of the art.)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Akidasar@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sat May 18 15:04:51 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On Sat, 18 May 2024 02:37:40 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:v2920b$2j62u$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/17/24 17:59, Ed P wrote:
    Never could get my mind around the concept fo "corporate greed."

    You start a company, the idea is to make money, if you do well
    and make a lot, all of a sudden you;re "greedy?"

    Got any stocks or mutual funds in your IRA of 401k? Do you hope
    they do well and increase the balance in your account-- or do you
    hope they're not "greedy?"

    Corporate greed is a foolish naive liberal mantra 😉


    Sure, they should make a profit, they cannot exist without it.
    Look at the proportions though.  Many of the earners of
    multi-million dollar wages did not start the business but take a
    lot from it, while the peasants working for them often get paid
    meager wages.  What is a fair ratio?  You can be the genius that
    started a big company, but you need the grunts doing the daily
    chores.  Pay them fairly.

    do you pay taxes?  Good, thanks for contributing to society.  Many
    big corporation pay none.

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio
    was 344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average,
    CEOs received more than 344 times the annual average salary of
    production and nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their
    firm


    So what. The market dictates this. If the CEO's
    a producing,

    CEOs don't produce anything - they are takers, It's the workers that produce the product and the wealth.

    Then those workers obviously handle the board, accountants, legal, distributors, transport, OSHA, etc...right dumbass?

    Worker get's paid $10/hour to
    produce $100/hour of product - the bulk of that other $90 goes into
    the CEO's pocket.

    Meaning there are no overhaed costs of:

    marketing
    distribution
    inventory
    capital equipment
    legal
    regulatory
    transport
    raw goods
    advertising
    and so on...

    You are - routinely- the dumbest marxist know nothing out here!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Akidasar@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sat May 18 15:08:10 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On Sat, 18 May 2024 14:53:21 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    tRump inherited a good economy from Obama, then blew it

    https://www.businessinsider.com/charts-contrasting-trump-economy-obama-bush-administrations-republicans-democrats-2020-10#wages-grew-steadily-under-bush-and-slowed-under-obama-they-started-picking-up-again-under-trump-but-the-pandemics-impact-skewed-this-
    years-data-6

    No, he FIXED Obama's malaise and had to keep us afloat through Covid.


    Middle-class income fell during the Great Recession. It started
    climbing afterwards, though cost-of-living increases have undermined
    those gains.


    incomes continued rising under Trump. It reached $68,700 in 2019, according to the latest data available before the pandemic.

    Wages grew steadily under Bush and slowed under Obama. They started
    picking up again under Trump, but the pandemic's impact skewed this
    year's data.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Akidasar@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 18 15:17:44 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 18 May 2024 15:27:29 GMT
    Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    In the U.S. their compensation is a way of keeping score against other
    CEOs. It's got nothing to do with how effective they are at their
    job.

    Which is why most starting elite NFL Qbs are all making about $50mil/year...right?

    2nd tier starters get $20-30 mil/year.

    So the performance gap has no impact?

    Bullshit!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pothead@21:1/5 to "@frank.net on Sat May 18 21:18:32 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 2024-05-18, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:
    On 5/18/2024 9:37 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <v29amc$2kfn2$2@dont-email.me>, T@invalid.invalid says...

    The market dictates that. You get paid higher for
    work if it is something more difficult you do.
    If you are doing something anyone can do, you get
    paid lower.

    Here is how freedom works: you are forced meet you
    own needs by meeting other's needs.




    Sometimes one gets paid more for a job that anyone can do but no no one
    wants to do.

    Talk about over paid I just saw where a rookie baseball player has a
    contract for over 100 million dollsrs. After only a few games he was
    injured and is out for the season. Not sure how it will affect him for
    later years. He will still get paid millions.


    It is funny that no one complains about this or the entertainers that
    are billionaires. I do not know what concert or game tickets cost when
    I was a kid but now they are outrageous. People pay but do not complain.

    I agree which is why I no longer support these events.
    Back in the 70's a ticket to an Earth Wind And Fire concert was $50 for good seats. These days?
    It's hundreds unless you want to sit in the nosebleed section.

    About 5 years ago I took my granddaughter to a Yankees game. By the time I purchased the tickets,
    in advance, box seats field level, parked the car, bought hot dogs a couple of beers, tips and
    beers for the gentleman next to me who graciously bout me a beer, I was well over $600 not
    including tolls and gas for the car.

    It's out of control.

    Wonder where these 'Swifties" get the money to buy tickets to a Taylor Swift concert.


    --
    pothead
    Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
    Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
    Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Akidasar@21:1/5 to Bob F on Sat May 18 17:32:45 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On Sat, 18 May 2024 15:19:52 -0700
    Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Funny how corporate profits are growing way faster than product
    prices, isn't it.

    Funny how you just lied through your teeth.

    https://www.rappler.com/business/high-rice-inflation-until-july-2024-market-price-going-up/

    High rice inflation could linger until July as market prices keep going
    up

    Prices for rice continue to climb as rice inflation stands at 24.4% in
    March 2024,



    https://www.investing.com/equities/cargills-(ceylon)-ratios

    Net Profit margin TTM 2.7%

    https://ycharts.com/companies/BG/gross_profit_margin

    Gross Profit Margin (Quarterly) Range, Past 5 Years
    -9.47%
    Minimum
    SEP 2019
    11.68%
    Maximum
    JUN 2020
    5.61%
    Average
    6.02%
    Median

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Akidasar on Sat May 18 19:47:35 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/18/2024 5:17 PM, Akidasar wrote:
    On 18 May 2024 15:27:29 GMT
    Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    In the U.S. their compensation is a way of keeping score against other
    CEOs. It's got nothing to do with how effective they are at their
    job.

    Which is why most starting elite NFL Qbs are all making about $50mil/year...right?

    2nd tier starters get $20-30 mil/year.

    So the performance gap has no impact?

    Bullshit!



    IMO, the top quarterback is not worth more than $150,000. They don't
    get any of my money. Its a game. People play it for fun!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ralph Mowery@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 18 22:27:23 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    In article <v2bemm$30vs1$1@dont-email.me>, esp@snet.n says...

    IMO, the top quarterback is not worth more than $150,000. They don't
    get any of my money. Its a game. People play it for fun!



    That is the way I look at sports. I did have to take the family to a
    few baseball games to keep them happy but to me it was boring. I have
    never watched a whole game of any kind on the TV.
    I do not care to go to the ones doing the singing either. The only one
    I went to was back when I was in high school and it was not very
    expensive at all.It was OK, but not anything I would care for later in life.Went to a few car races in the teens but back then there was not
    too much to do in the mid to late 1960's.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From micky@21:1/5 to esp@snet.n on Sun May 19 00:22:19 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 18 May 2024 19:47:35 -0400, Ed P
    <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 5/18/2024 5:17 PM, Akidasar wrote:
    On 18 May 2024 15:27:29 GMT
    Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    In the U.S. their compensation is a way of keeping score against other
    CEOs. It's got nothing to do with how effective they are at their
    job.

    Which is why most starting elite NFL Qbs are all making about
    $50mil/year...right?

    2nd tier starters get $20-30 mil/year.

    So the performance gap has no impact?

    Bullshit!



    IMO, the top quarterback is not worth more than $150,000. They don't
    get any of my money. Its a game. People play it for fun!

    My plumbing repairs, my copper pipe soldering, is fun the first two or
    three times. If I trained for it 4 or 5 days a week and did it every
    sunday, it wouldn't be fun anymore.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From neil lain@21:1/5 to Bob F on Sun May 19 00:47:35 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/18/2024 5:36 PM, Bob F wrote:
    On 5/18/2024 4:32 PM, Akidasar wrote:
    On Sat, 18 May 2024 15:19:52 -0700
    Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Funny how corporate profits are growing way faster than product
    prices, isn't it.

    Funny how you just lied through your teeth.

    https://www.rappler.com/business/high-rice-inflation-until-july-2024-market-price-going-up/

    High rice inflation could linger until July as market prices keep going
    up

    Prices for rice continue to climb as rice inflation stands at 24.4% in
    March 2024,



    https://www.investing.com/equities/cargills-(ceylon)-ratios

    Net Profit margin TTM    2.7%

    https://ycharts.com/companies/BG/gross_profit_margin

    Gross Profit Margin (Quarterly) Range, Past 5 Years
    -9.47%
    Minimum
    SEP 2019
    11.68%
    Maximum
    JUN 2020
    5.61%
    Average
    6.02%
    Median

    "Inflation has come down significantly from its peak over the past year,
    yet prices remain high for American consumers. As supply chain snarls
    have receded and the economy has stabilized, businesses continue to pad
    their bottom lines, rather than passing these savings on to consumers."


    https://groundworkcollaborative.org/work/inflation-revelation-how-outsized-corporate-profits-drive-rising-costs/

    "The Groundwork Collaborative is a left-of-center activist group with a particular focus on economic issues. It is a fiscally-sponsored project
    of the New Venture Fund, a 501(c)(3) arm of the Arabella Advisors “dark money” network of liberal pass-through funding organizations. The organization was launched in 2018 to promote left-wing economic policies."

    Sucked dirt road weenie on that one, didn't you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Akidasar on Sun May 19 08:54:37 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 2024-05-18, Akidasar <ak@no.spam> wrote:
    On Sat, 18 May 2024 15:19:52 -0700
    Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Funny how corporate profits are growing way faster than product
    prices, isn't it.

    Funny how you just lied through your teeth.

    https://www.rappler.com/business/high-rice-inflation-until-july-2024-market-price-going-up/

    High rice inflation could linger until July as market prices keep going
    up

    Prices for rice continue to climb as rice inflation stands at 24.4% in
    March 2024,



    https://www.investing.com/equities/cargills-(ceylon)-ratios

    Net Profit margin TTM 2.7%

    https://ycharts.com/companies/BG/gross_profit_margin

    Gross Profit Margin (Quarterly) Range, Past 5 Years
    -9.47%
    Minimum
    SEP 2019
    11.68%
    Maximum
    JUN 2020
    5.61%
    Average
    6.02%
    Median

    Rice inflation in the Philippines?

    Cargill Ceylon?

    Bunge Global SA ?

    You really had to reach to find those numbers, didn't you?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Frank <"frank@21:1/5 to Ralph Mowery on Sun May 19 10:21:45 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/18/2024 10:27 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <v2bemm$30vs1$1@dont-email.me>, esp@snet.n says...

    IMO, the top quarterback is not worth more than $150,000. They don't
    get any of my money. Its a game. People play it for fun!



    That is the way I look at sports. I did have to take the family to a
    few baseball games to keep them happy but to me it was boring. I have
    never watched a whole game of any kind on the TV.
    I do not care to go to the ones doing the singing either. The only one
    I went to was back when I was in high school and it was not very
    expensive at all.It was OK, but not anything I would care for later in life.Went to a few car races in the teens but back then there was not
    too much to do in the mid to late 1960's.



    I was in Cleveland in the early '60's when Frank Ryan and Jimmy Brown
    were playing for the championship Cleveland Browns and watched on TV.
    Off season Frank Ryan was going to school and got a PhD in math and
    after playing ended up as a math prof at CWRU. He was well paid at the
    time as a player but not like today and needed that second career.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Akidasar@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 19 14:16:50 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 19 May 2024 08:54:37 GMT
    Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2024-05-18, Akidasar <ak@no.spam> wrote:
    On Sat, 18 May 2024 15:19:52 -0700
    Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Funny how corporate profits are growing way faster than product
    prices, isn't it.

    Funny how you just lied through your teeth.

    https://www.rappler.com/business/high-rice-inflation-until-july-2024-market-price-going-up/

    High rice inflation could linger until July as market prices keep
    going up

    Prices for rice continue to climb as rice inflation stands at 24.4%
    in March 2024,



    https://www.investing.com/equities/cargills-(ceylon)-ratios

    Net Profit margin TTM 2.7%

    https://ycharts.com/companies/BG/gross_profit_margin

    Gross Profit Margin (Quarterly) Range, Past 5 Years
    -9.47%
    Minimum
    SEP 2019
    11.68%
    Maximum
    JUN 2020
    5.61%
    Average
    6.02%
    Median

    Rice inflation in the Philippines?

    And elsewhere:

    https://internationalbanker.com/finance/no-immediate-end-in-store-for-high-rice-prices/

    According to the United Nations’ Food and Agriculture Organization’s (FAO’s) Rice Price Index (FARPI), the price of rice averaged 141.1 points in December 2023, up 1.6 percent month-on-month and 18.6 percent from the previous year. It was a fitting
    end to a year in which prices skyrocketed to levels not seen since 2008, thanks largely to India’s rice-export ban and the impacts of El Niño. And with those concerns far from being allayed, the world may have to deal with prolonged—and severe—
    rice-price inflation in 2024.

    Indeed, FARPI data has revealed that international rice prices averaged a sizeable 21.1 percent more in 2023 than in 2022. The long-grained rice variety, indica, led the rally with a 25-percent surge during the year, most recently rising by 2.6 percent
    in December, with the FAO noting strong Asian buying sentiment, tighter supplies in Vietnam and the strengthening Thai baht versus the US dollar during the year as key contributory factors. Other benchmark quotations also experienced price appreciations
    last year, with Japonica, aromatic and glutinous rice up by 6 percent, 11 percent and 17 percent, respectively.

    The bulk of this upward price surge has been largely attributed to the
    July 21 export ban India implemented on non-basmati varieties of white
    rice, with immediate effects. New Delhi also slapped a 20-percent duty
    on parboiled-rice exports and applied an export-price floor on basmati
    at $950/metric tonne (mt), with the Ministry of Consumer Affairs, Food
    & Public Distribution confirming that such measures had been taken to
    provide “adequate availability” of rice for domestic consumption and to “allay the rise in prices in the domestic market”.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/236628/retail-price-of-white-rice-in-the-united-states/

    https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/outlooks/109167/rcs-24d.pdf?v=3255

    U.S. long-grain milled rice remains quoted at near-record levels.

    https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/gallery/chart-detail/?chartId=108191

    Over the 2012 to 2022 period, the total cost of producing one acre of
    rice increased by 36 percent. Most of the increase in cost stemmed from
    an increase in operating costs of 62 percent, while allocated overhead
    costs increased 6 percent. Surging fertilizer costs, which increased by
    $150.75 per acre from 2020 to 2022, largely drove the increase. By
    contrast, allocated overhead costs—a category that includes labor costs
    and the opportunity cost of land—increased by $12.09 since 2020.


    Cargill Ceylon?

    Bunge Global SA ?

    You really had to reach to find those numbers, didn't you?


    You really had to be a lying twat to deny that the global rice market is overpriced.

    And that it had NOTHING to do with excessive corporate profits, not one
    iota!

    Now go lie down under the porch.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Akidasar@21:1/5 to Bob F on Sun May 19 14:46:53 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On Sun, 19 May 2024 06:22:20 -0700
    Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    companies continue to
    keep prices high even as their inflationary costs drop

    NO meaningful "inflationary costs" have dropped, scuzzbag.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Akidasar@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun May 19 15:07:07 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On Sat, 18 May 2024 19:47:35 -0400
    Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 5/18/2024 5:17 PM, Akidasar wrote:
    On 18 May 2024 15:27:29 GMT
    Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    In the U.S. their compensation is a way of keeping score against
    other CEOs. It's got nothing to do with how effective they are at
    their job.

    Which is why most starting elite NFL Qbs are all making about $50mil/year...right?

    2nd tier starters get $20-30 mil/year.

    So the performance gap has no impact?

    Bullshit!



    IMO, the top quarterback is not worth more than $150,000.

    You must be in Canaduh then.

    They don't get any of my money. Its a game. People play it for fun!

    Non sequitur.

    My point stands.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Akidasar@21:1/5 to Bob F on Sun May 19 15:06:07 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On Sat, 18 May 2024 17:36:59 -0700
    Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/18/2024 4:32 PM, Akidasar wrote:
    On Sat, 18 May 2024 15:19:52 -0700
    Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Funny how corporate profits are growing way faster than product
    prices, isn't it.

    Funny how you just lied through your teeth.

    https://www.rappler.com/business/high-rice-inflation-until-july-2024-market-price-going-up/

    High rice inflation could linger until July as market prices keep
    going up

    Prices for rice continue to climb as rice inflation stands at 24.4%
    in March 2024,



    https://www.investing.com/equities/cargills-(ceylon)-ratios

    Net Profit margin TTM 2.7%

    https://ycharts.com/companies/BG/gross_profit_margin

    Gross Profit Margin (Quarterly) Range, Past 5 Years
    -9.47%
    Minimum
    SEP 2019
    11.68%
    Maximum
    JUN 2020
    5.61%
    Average
    6.02%
    Median

    "Inflation has come down significantly from its peak

    Bullshit lie!

    https://www.biden-mart.com/

    Ribeye steak/lb.

    YOUR BILL
    UNDER TRUMP

    $7.25


    YOUR BILL
    UNDER BIDEN

    $13.22

    PERCENT
    INCREASE

    82.34 %


    SOURCE: USDA DATA, JANUARY 2021 AND JANUARY 2024​​

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Akidasar on Sun May 19 21:43:31 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 2024-05-19, Akidasar <ak@no.spam> wrote:

    "Inflation has come down significantly from its peak

    Bullshit lie!

    Inflation can be down while prices remain high, dumbass.


    --
    Cindy Hamilton

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Akidasar@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun May 19 16:18:16 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 19 May 2024 21:43:31 GMT
    Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2024-05-19, Akidasar <ak@no.spam> wrote:

    "Inflation has come down significantly from its peak

    Bullshit lie!

    Inflation can be down while prices remain high, dumbass.

    Hypothetical twaddle.

    Inflation is not down in any significant or visible way.

    Prices are high due to inflation, cope.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Akidasar on Sun May 19 23:41:13 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 2024-05-19, Akidasar <ak@no.spam> wrote:
    On Sat, 18 May 2024 17:36:59 -0700
    Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/18/2024 4:32 PM, Akidasar wrote:
    On Sat, 18 May 2024 15:19:52 -0700
    Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Funny how corporate profits are growing way faster than product
    prices, isn't it.

    Funny how you just lied through your teeth.

    https://www.rappler.com/business/high-rice-inflation-until-july-2024-market-price-going-up/

    High rice inflation could linger until July as market prices keep
    going up

    Prices for rice continue to climb as rice inflation stands at 24.4%
    in March 2024,



    https://www.investing.com/equities/cargills-(ceylon)-ratios

    Net Profit margin TTM 2.7%

    https://ycharts.com/companies/BG/gross_profit_margin

    Gross Profit Margin (Quarterly) Range, Past 5 Years
    -9.47%
    Minimum
    SEP 2019
    11.68%
    Maximum
    JUN 2020
    5.61%
    Average
    6.02%
    Median

    "Inflation has come down significantly from its peak

    Bullshit lie!

    https://www.biden-mart.com/

    Ribeye steak/lb.

    YOUR BILL
    UNDER TRUMP

    $7.25


    YOUR BILL
    UNDER BIDEN

    $13.22

    PERCENT
    INCREASE

    82.34 %


    SOURCE: USDA DATA, JANUARY 2021 AND JANUARY 2024​​



    When Joe Biden took office inflation was at 1.4%.

    --
    pothead
    Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
    Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
    Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From T@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sun May 19 17:31:27 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 5/18/24 07:55, Baxter wrote:
    You're fucking full of shit - nothing you said negates the fact that
    workers are the ones producing the value and the CEOs are Takers.

    Communist take that position a lot. How much producing
    do you think those workers would do if they did not
    have someone at the top how knew what he was doing?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jon Brady@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 18 08:19:09 2024
    XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, or.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, sac.politics

    On 17 May 2024, Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted some news:v28uht$2epn9$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/17/2024 4:58 PM, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
    On 5/17/24 1:17 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 10:20 AM, Frank wrote:
    On 5/17/2024 6:02 AM, Joe Money wrote:
    In <v25l49$1n8vv$1@dont-email.me> clueless wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 1:26 AM, Bank of America wrote:
    Loaf of Wonder Bread - $4.59
    Worcestershire sauce small - $5.79
    Passed on Pringles - $3.05
    Lay's Stax Sour Cream - $2.49
    Pint of half and half - $2.40
    Half gallon store brand milk - $3.18
    Cheez-It Grooves, 6oz - $4.29
    12 pod store brand coffee - $4.68
    Lemon cake - $4.66
    16oz Bush's Best, Baked Beans, Original - $2.49
    Bananas - $.79 lb x 2.5 - $1.98
    8 pack Gatorade - $8.24
    Dozen regular eggs - $3.82
    Applewood smoked bacon, 24 oz - $13.99
    Pound of Boar's Head beef bologna - $12.10
    4 Boneless pork chops, 1/2" - $9.15
    2 Sirloins - $17.28
    3.5 lb family pack of drumsticks - $6.68
    Tillamook Udderly Chocolate Ice Cream - $5.59
    22.4 gallons of Chevron regular @ $4.34 - $97
    Gas Buddy website lies.

    I wonder why the grocery stores and manufacturers have seen their
    profits go up sometimes twice as much as their prices.

    How did Biden do that?

    He put his open palm out first and looked the other direction as
    soon as he
    felt something in it.

    As usual.

    Corporate greed did not occur until Biden became president.
    Apparently they think it is something new.

    Corporate greed has been growing well for a couple of decades now.

    The average CEO-to-worker pay ratio was 272-to-1 for S&P 500 Index
    companies in 2022; overall, U.S. workers’ real hourly wages fell
    in 2022 for the second year in a row by -1.6% after adjusting for
    inflation.

    https://aflcio.org/executive-paywatch-0

    Never could get my mind around the concept fo "corporate greed."

    You start a company, the idea is to make money, if you do well and
    make a lot, all of a sudden you;re "greedy?"

    Got any stocks or mutual funds in your IRA of 401k? Do you hope they
    do well and increase the balance in your account-- or do you hope
    they're not "greedy?"

    Corporate greed is a foolish naive liberal mantra ;-)


    Sure, they should make a profit, they cannot exist without it. Look
    at the proportions though. Many of the earners of multi-million
    dollar wages did not start the business but take a lot from it, while
    the peasants working for them often get paid meager wages. What is a
    fair ratio? You can be the genius that started a big company, but you
    need the grunts doing the daily chores. Pay them fairly.

    If they work pay them fairly. If they are sitting there playing with
    their smartphones, filming themselves running equipment that can harm
    others, pay them accordingly or fire them.

    do you pay taxes? Good, thanks for contributing to society. Many big corporation pay none.

    What is the CEO pay ratio in the US?
    CEO versus worker pay U.S. 2022 | Statista
    In 2022, it was estimated that the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio
    was 344.3 in the United States. This indicates that, on average, CEOs received more than 344 times the annual average salary of production
    and nonsupervisory workers in the key industry of their firm

    CEOs are overcompensated in the US. Any US CEO who sends jobs out of the country, or hires offshore IT staff to support the company they are
    responsible for should forfeit bonuses and lose 25% of their salary.

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