• Washington state considering new bill requiring gun owners to carry lia

    From super70s@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 31 07:03:50 2024
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    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly weapon
    as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Wed Jan 31 10:59:35 2024
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    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:updgfm$1h3qf$1@dont-email.me...
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly weapon as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Ok.. if I shoot on public roads then I will carry liability insurance.. as
    long as I shoot off-road or on private property then I don't need any.

    I mean if we are going to treat them the same..

    Oh, and I don't need liability insurance to carry a car from one place to another on public roads since I'm not operating it.
    Then, of course, you have the agricultural and emergency exemptions. So as
    long as I'm shooting for a agricultural use, or in an emergency then I still won't need liability insurance.

    After all, we gotta treat them the same..

    So that does that get you?

    I need insurance if I decide to set up a shooting range on the interstate?

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 31 07:21:41 2024
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    In news:updgfm$1h3qf$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly
    weapon as guns so now Democrats are treating both the same.

    Fixed it for ya.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Scout on Wed Jan 31 10:35:25 2024
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    On 2024-01-31 15:59:35 +0000, Scout said:

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:updgfm$1h3qf$1@dont-email.me...
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly weapon
    as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Ok.. if I shoot on public roads then I will carry liability insurance..
    as long as I shoot off-road or on private property then I don't need
    any.

    I mean if we are going to treat them the same..

    Oh, and I don't need liability insurance to carry a car from one place
    to another on public roads since I'm not operating it.
    Then, of course, you have the agricultural and emergency exemptions. So
    as long as I'm shooting for a agricultural use, or in an emergency then
    I still won't need liability insurance.

    After all, we gotta treat them the same..

    So that does that get you?

    I need insurance if I decide to set up a shooting range on the interstate?

    If you set up a shooting range on the interstate you really are
    mentally ill and shouldn't be around guns.

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 31 12:05:31 2024
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    On 1/31/2024 8:03 AM, super70s wrote:
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly weapon
    as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Liability insurance to enjoy a constitutional right...

    Liberals are nuts.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Yak on Wed Jan 31 11:03:13 2024
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    On 1/31/2024 10:05 AM, Yak wrote:
    On 1/31/2024 8:03 AM, super70s wrote:
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly
    weapon as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Liability insurance to enjoy a constitutional right...

    Liberals are nuts.

    Maybe people should have defamation liability insurance
    before posting on Usenet?

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 31 11:01:17 2024
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    On 1/31/2024 6:03 AM, super70s wrote:
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly
    as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.
    weapon
    Well, no. You only need auto liability insurance when operating
    your car on public roads. Unlike a car, it's already illegal to
    operate a gun on a public road.

    That's not the only difference. If guns were treated like cars:
    There would be no background checks to buy guns.
    Felons could buy guns.
    There would be no restrictions on gun type, features, or accessories.
    For example, no restrictions on short-barrelled or automatic rifles.
    No restrictions on gun silencers, in fact they would come standard
    with every gun purchase.
    You could carry concealed with no restrictions.
    No restrictions on interstate sales.
    No age-based restrictions on buying and owning guns.
    No limits on ghosts guns as long as you didn't operate
    your gun on a public road.
    No red-flag laws.
    No demonizing guns as "military style" etc.
    Others out there can surely add to this list.

    No, Washington is not treating guns and cars the same.
    No gun hater wants that. If they say they do, they lie.

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Just Wondering on Wed Jan 31 13:17:13 2024
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    On 1/31/2024 1:01 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/31/2024 6:03 AM, super70s wrote:
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly as
    guns so now Washington is treating both the same.
    weapon
    Well, no.  You only need auto liability insurance when operating
    your car on public roads.  Unlike a car, it's already illegal to
    operate a gun on a public road.

    That's not the only difference.  If guns were treated like cars:
    There would be no background checks to buy guns.
    Felons could buy guns.
    There would be no restrictions on gun type, features, or accessories.
    For example, no restrictions on short-barrelled or automatic rifles.
    No restrictions on gun silencers, in fact they would come standard
    with every gun purchase.
    You could carry concealed with no restrictions.
    No restrictions on interstate sales.
    No age-based restrictions on buying and owning guns.
    No limits on ghosts guns as long as you didn't operate
    your gun on a public road.
    No red-flag laws.
    No demonizing guns as "military style" etc.
    Others out there can surely add to this list.

    No, Washington is not treating guns and cars the same.
    No gun hater wants that.  If they say they do, they lie.


    More fundamentally, there's no constitutional right to own a car.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Yak on Wed Jan 31 11:46:40 2024
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    On 1/31/2024 11:17 AM, Yak wrote:
    On 1/31/2024 1:01 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/31/2024 6:03 AM, super70s wrote:
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly as
    guns so now Washington is treating both the same.
    weapon
    Well, no.  You only need auto liability insurance when operating
    your car on public roads.  Unlike a car, it's already illegal to
    operate a gun on a public road.

    That's not the only difference.  If guns were treated like cars:
    There would be no background checks to buy guns.
    Felons could buy guns.
    There would be no restrictions on gun type, features, or accessories.
    For example, no restrictions on short-barrelled or automatic rifles.
    No restrictions on gun silencers, in fact they would come standard
    with every gun purchase.
    You could carry concealed with no restrictions.
    No restrictions on interstate sales.
    No age-based restrictions on buying and owning guns.
    No limits on ghosts guns as long as you didn't operate
    your gun on a public road.
    No red-flag laws.
    No demonizing guns as "military style" etc.
    Others out there can surely add to this list.

    No, Washington is not treating guns and cars the same.
    No gun hater wants that.  If they say they do, they lie.

    More fundamentally, there's no constitutional right to own a car.

    True, but there is a right to travel, even to interstate travel.
    But my point is, restrictions on guns are considerably more
    onerous than are restrictions on cars.

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 31 11:07:56 2024
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    On 1/31/2024 9:05 AM, Gak, fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times — and
    *admits* it — lied:

    On 1/31/2024 8:03 AM, super70s wrote:
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly weapon as >> guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Liability insurance to enjoy a constitutional right...

    No — liability insurance to cover the damage you cause while abusing a constitutional right.

    Fuck off, you goddamned Nazi little person.

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Wed Jan 31 15:12:18 2024
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    On 1/31/2024 2:07 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 1/31/2024 9:05 AM, Gak, fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of
    times — and *admits* it — lied:

    On 1/31/2024 8:03 AM, super70s wrote:
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly
    weapon as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Liability insurance to enjoy a constitutional right...

    No — liability insurance to cover the damage you cause while abusing a constitutional right.

    What damage? What abuse?

    Fuck off, you goddamned Nazi

    Nazi's regulated guns, just like you liberal lunatics. You liberal
    lunatics, especially tiny, portly little tea-pots such as yourself,
    always accuse everyone else of being exactly what you are.

    little person.

    Imagine a clown that is 5' 6" with a size 10 shoe calling someone
    'little.' LOL!!!!!

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Thu Feb 1 08:47:56 2024
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    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:updssd$1jmhb$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-01-31 15:59:35 +0000, Scout said:

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:updgfm$1h3qf$1@dont-email.me...
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly weapon
    as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Ok.. if I shoot on public roads then I will carry liability insurance..
    as long as I shoot off-road or on private property then I don't need any.

    I mean if we are going to treat them the same..

    Oh, and I don't need liability insurance to carry a car from one place to
    another on public roads since I'm not operating it.
    Then, of course, you have the agricultural and emergency exemptions. So
    as long as I'm shooting for a agricultural use, or in an emergency then I
    still won't need liability insurance.

    After all, we gotta treat them the same..

    So that does that get you?

    I need insurance if I decide to set up a shooting range on the
    interstate?

    If you set up a shooting range on the interstate you really are mentally
    ill and shouldn't be around guns.

    I acknowledge your admission that I wouldn't need the "liability insurance"
    you seem to think is so important if we treated guns the same as cars.

    Oh, and you might want to talk to some Europeans about that.. I seem to
    recall at least one of their long distance gun ranges actually has shooters firing over a major highway...
    Hint: It's in Switzerland.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Yak on Thu Feb 1 09:05:36 2024
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    "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message news:upe2r9$1kejm$2@dont-email.me...
    On 1/31/2024 1:01 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/31/2024 6:03 AM, super70s wrote:
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly as guns >>> so now Washington is treating both the same.
    weapon
    Well, no. You only need auto liability insurance when operating
    your car on public roads. Unlike a car, it's already illegal to
    operate a gun on a public road.

    That's not the only difference. If guns were treated like cars:
    There would be no background checks to buy guns.
    Felons could buy guns.
    There would be no restrictions on gun type, features, or accessories.
    For example, no restrictions on short-barrelled or automatic rifles.
    No restrictions on gun silencers, in fact they would come standard
    with every gun purchase.
    You could carry concealed with no restrictions.
    No restrictions on interstate sales.
    No age-based restrictions on buying and owning guns.
    No limits on ghosts guns as long as you didn't operate
    your gun on a public road.
    No red-flag laws.
    No demonizing guns as "military style" etc.
    Others out there can surely add to this list.

    No, Washington is not treating guns and cars the same.
    No gun hater wants that. If they say they do, they lie.


    More fundamentally, there's no constitutional right to own a car.

    Perhaps, could depend on the 5th and 9th Amendments.

    I could very much see how the travel, and thus the means to travel, could be considered a right.

    Further I'm not aware of any enumerated power for the federal government
    that they could use to ban cars.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 08:59:56 2024
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    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
    in message news:t3vkrid7iunu87mo4eu0peuttungus7bst@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com...
    [Default] super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly weapon
    as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Really? So 16 year olds can own whatever gun they want and can carry
    across state lines?

    Younger than that. I know of no age limit on when someone can own a car, or
    a gun for that matter. It certainly can be transported across state lines,
    like any other gun can be. Carry would depend on local laws, but 16 years
    old regularly hunt with guns in most states.

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  • From remailer@domain.invalid@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 3 00:04:45 2024
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nosp on Sat Feb 3 09:34:35 2024
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    On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 08:47:56 -0500, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message >news:updssd$1jmhb$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-01-31 15:59:35 +0000, Scout said:

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:updgfm$1h3qf$1@dont-email.me...
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly weapon >>>> as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Ok.. if I shoot on public roads then I will carry liability insurance..
    as long as I shoot off-road or on private property then I don't need any. >>>
    I mean if we are going to treat them the same..

    Oh, and I don't need liability insurance to carry a car from one place to >>> another on public roads since I'm not operating it.
    Then, of course, you have the agricultural and emergency exemptions. So
    as long as I'm shooting for a agricultural use, or in an emergency then I >>> still won't need liability insurance.

    After all, we gotta treat them the same..

    So that does that get you?

    I need insurance if I decide to set up a shooting range on the
    interstate?

    If you set up a shooting range on the interstate you really are mentally
    ill and shouldn't be around guns.

    I acknowledge your admission that I wouldn't need the "liability insurance" >you seem to think is so important if we treated guns the same as cars.

    Oh, and you might want to talk to some Europeans about that.. I seem to >recall at least one of their long distance gun ranges actually has shooters >firing over a major highway...
    Hint: It's in Switzerland.




    Libs think that voter ID is unconstitutional but that requiring
    liability insurance for gun is....

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Feb 3 13:28:51 2024
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    On 2/3/2024 7:34 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 08:47:56 -0500, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:updssd$1jmhb$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-01-31 15:59:35 +0000, Scout said:

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:updgfm$1h3qf$1@dont-email.me...
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly weapon >>>>> as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Ok.. if I shoot on public roads then I will carry liability insurance.. >>>> as long as I shoot off-road or on private property then I don't need any. >>>>
    I mean if we are going to treat them the same..

    Oh, and I don't need liability insurance to carry a car from one place to >>>> another on public roads since I'm not operating it.
    Then, of course, you have the agricultural and emergency exemptions. So >>>> as long as I'm shooting for a agricultural use, or in an emergency then I >>>> still won't need liability insurance.

    After all, we gotta treat them the same..

    So that does that get you?

    I need insurance if I decide to set up a shooting range on the
    interstate?

    If you set up a shooting range on the interstate you really are mentally >>> ill and shouldn't be around guns.

    I acknowledge your admission that I wouldn't need the "liability insurance" >> you seem to think is so important if we treated guns the same as cars.

    Oh, and you might want to talk to some Europeans about that.. I seem to
    recall at least one of their long distance gun ranges actually has shooters >> firing over a major highway...
    Hint: It's in Switzerland.

    Libs think that voter ID is unconstitutional but that requiring
    liability insurance for gun is....

    They think that blacks are too stupid to get ID which makes
    voter ID laws racist.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Feb 5 08:49:57 2024
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    "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:0mjsrihmr45v63pc7r7lsb2at2jecnedni@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 08:47:56 -0500, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message >>news:updssd$1jmhb$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-01-31 15:59:35 +0000, Scout said:

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:updgfm$1h3qf$1@dont-email.me...
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly
    weapon
    as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Ok.. if I shoot on public roads then I will carry liability insurance.. >>>> as long as I shoot off-road or on private property then I don't need
    any.

    I mean if we are going to treat them the same..

    Oh, and I don't need liability insurance to carry a car from one place >>>> to
    another on public roads since I'm not operating it.
    Then, of course, you have the agricultural and emergency exemptions. So >>>> as long as I'm shooting for a agricultural use, or in an emergency then >>>> I
    still won't need liability insurance.

    After all, we gotta treat them the same..

    So that does that get you?

    I need insurance if I decide to set up a shooting range on the
    interstate?

    If you set up a shooting range on the interstate you really are mentally >>> ill and shouldn't be around guns.

    I acknowledge your admission that I wouldn't need the "liability
    insurance"
    you seem to think is so important if we treated guns the same as cars.

    Oh, and you might want to talk to some Europeans about that.. I seem to >>recall at least one of their long distance gun ranges actually has
    shooters
    firing over a major highway...
    Hint: It's in Switzerland.




    Libs think that voter ID is unconstitutional but that requiring
    liability insurance for gun is....

    I think if we treated voters as we did gun owners.. liberals would scream
    how we are violating those people's rights.

    I mean who wouldn't want mandatory voter education classes, election waiting periods were you have to go to the polls twice, background checks which you have to pay for each time you want to vote, Limits on how many times you can vote in a period of time. Say only being allowed to vote on one issue per month. Then of course, lets not forget communities that seek to ban voting
    and prohibit you from even having a vote. I mean you might have to decide if you want to vote for who will be President or who will be your senator or
    who will be your Representative.. or whether the county will assess a $500
    fee to each property owner to pay for schools.. or whether your property
    will be rezoned and your house torn down....

    I mean how could that possibly be a violation of their rights, since
    liberals claim all that is allowed.

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to Yak on Tue Feb 6 21:33:43 2024
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    Yak wrote:
    On 1/31/2024 8:03 AM, super70s wrote:
    LOL, the gun nuts are always saying cars are as much of a deadly weapon
    as guns so now Washington is treating both the same.

    Liability insurance to enjoy a constitutional right...

    Liberals are nuts.


    Why do you have to pay for a gun to "enjoy a
    constitutional right" ? Why isn't the gun free?

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