• More US Freaking About Russian Non-Weapon

    From 68g.1509@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 15 22:20:53 2024
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13089227/republicans-capability-russia-anti-satellite-alarmist.html

    Republicans question if the US has the capability to respond
    to Russia attacking its satellites: GOP infighting continues
    as some raise concern about American strength in space and
    others criticize 'alarmist' warning

    . . .

    More panic over a currently non-existent Russian weapon.

    It has already been proven that ground or air-launched
    missiles can hit satellites. China and Russia made a big
    mess in orbit proving this a couple years ago.

    However a laser-based sat killer could zap a lot more
    sats a lot quicker - with no telltale missiles rising
    and the time-delay involved.

    As for western mil/comm sats ... they are NOT armored.
    That'd add WAY WAY too much weight. A couple taps from
    a strong pulsed laser and that'd be that. Even shiny
    foils might not offer much protection and in many apps
    would interfere with radio transmissions and/or
    solar panels. Di/Trichrotic mirror film MIGHT get
    past some of those problems, but you kinda need to
    know the enemy laser frequency ahead of time.

    Despite sci-fi, particle beams are likely NOT very
    good for long-range attacks in Earth orbit. Maybe
    something like a "micro-missile", maybe the size of
    a pencil, with a really smart guidance system, could
    be employed.

    So, the best protection is to NOT have the fuckin' war
    in the first place. Nobody really wins ; they just get
    the honor of rotting to death a couple weeks later on.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 10:42:18 2024
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    On Thu, 15 Feb 2024, 68g.1509 wrote:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13089227/republicans-capability-russia-anti-satellite-alarmist.html

    Republicans question if the US has the capability to respond
    to Russia attacking its satellites: GOP infighting continues
    as some raise concern about American strength in space and
    others criticize 'alarmist' warning

    . . .

    More panic over a currently non-existent Russian weapon.

    It has already been proven that ground or air-launched
    missiles can hit satellites. China and Russia made a big
    mess in orbit proving this a couple years ago.

    However a laser-based sat killer could zap a lot more
    sats a lot quicker - with no telltale missiles rising
    and the time-delay involved.

    As for western mil/comm sats ... they are NOT armored.
    That'd add WAY WAY too much weight. A couple taps from
    a strong pulsed laser and that'd be that. Even shiny
    foils might not offer much protection and in many apps
    would interfere with radio transmissions and/or
    solar panels. Di/Trichrotic mirror film MIGHT get
    past some of those problems, but you kinda need to
    know the enemy laser frequency ahead of time.

    Despite sci-fi, particle beams are likely NOT very
    good for long-range attacks in Earth orbit. Maybe
    something like a "micro-missile", maybe the size of
    a pencil, with a really smart guidance system, could
    be employed.

    So, the best protection is to NOT have the fuckin' war
    in the first place. Nobody really wins ; they just get
    the honor of rotting to death a couple weeks later on.

    What's the smallest size missile from orbit that would cause enough damage
    to justify the costs of getting it there in the first place?

    I'm thinking something sci-fi like like a cloud of small missiles raining
    down on the enemy.

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 08:50:09 2024
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    On 2/15/2024 8:20 PM, 68g.1509 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13089227/republicans-capability-russia-anti-satellite-alarmist.html

    Republicans question if the US has the capability to respond
    to Russia attacking its satellites: GOP infighting continues
    as some raise concern about American strength in space and
    others criticize 'alarmist' warning

    . . .

      More panic over a currently non-existent Russian weapon.


    From your cited article:

    "White House national security spokesman John Kirby seemingly confirmed
    reports that the threat was related to Moscow's plan to put a nuclear
    weapon into space to target and destroy satellites the world depends on
    for communication."

    Could be the feared EMP space weapon that could knock out electronics
    and power plants in a targeted, land based area. Hardly "panic" on the
    part of concerned Americans, and it seems to be speculation on your part
    that the weapons are "non-existent." The Kremlin has learned valuable
    lessons about Western capabilities from the war in Ukraine, much to the detriment of the West, IMHO.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Fri Feb 16 16:50:00 2024
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    On 2024-02-16, Lucas McCain <Lucas_McCain@tutanato.com> wrote:
    On 2/15/2024 8:20 PM, 68g.1509 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13089227/republicans-capability-russia-anti-satellite-alarmist.html

    Republicans question if the US has the capability to respond
    to Russia attacking its satellites: GOP infighting continues
    as some raise concern about American strength in space and
    others criticize 'alarmist' warning

    . . .

      More panic over a currently non-existent Russian weapon.


    From your cited article:

    "White House national security spokesman John Kirby seemingly confirmed reports that the threat was related to Moscow's plan to put a nuclear
    weapon into space to target and destroy satellites the world depends on
    for communication."

    Could be the feared EMP space weapon that could knock out electronics
    and power plants in a targeted, land based area. Hardly "panic" on the
    part of concerned Americans, and it seems to be speculation on your part
    that the weapons are "non-existent." The Kremlin has learned valuable lessons about Western capabilities from the war in Ukraine, much to the detriment of the West, IMHO.

    It's probably a "wag the dog" ploy to get the Hur report out of the press.

    --
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    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From 68g.1509@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 16:02:15 2024
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    On 2/16/24 4:42 AM, D wrote:


    On Thu, 15 Feb 2024, 68g.1509 wrote:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13089227/republicans-capability-russia-anti-satellite-alarmist.html


    Republicans question if the US has the capability to respond
    to Russia attacking its satellites: GOP infighting continues
    as some raise concern about American strength in space and
    others criticize 'alarmist' warning

    . . .

     More panic over a currently non-existent Russian weapon.

     It has already been proven that ground or air-launched
     missiles can hit satellites. China and Russia made a big
     mess in orbit proving this a couple years ago.

     However a laser-based sat killer could zap a lot more
     sats a lot quicker - with no telltale missiles rising
     and the time-delay involved.

     As for western mil/comm sats ... they are NOT armored.
     That'd add WAY WAY too much weight. A couple taps from
     a strong pulsed laser and that'd be that. Even shiny
     foils might not offer much protection and in many apps
     would interfere with radio transmissions and/or
     solar panels. Di/Trichrotic mirror film MIGHT get
     past some of those problems, but you kinda need to
     know the enemy laser frequency ahead of time.

     Despite sci-fi, particle beams are likely NOT very
     good for long-range attacks in Earth orbit. Maybe
     something like a "micro-missile", maybe the size of
     a pencil, with a really smart guidance system, could
     be employed.

     So, the best protection is to NOT have the fuckin' war
     in the first place. Nobody really wins ; they just get
     the honor of rotting to death a couple weeks later on.

    What's the smallest size missile from orbit that would cause enough
    damage to justify the costs of getting it there in the first place?

    I'm thinking something sci-fi like like a cloud of small missiles
    raining down on the enemy.


    HUMAN/military targets ??? Mostly you're talking something
    kinda larger there - plus they'd need shielding to even
    survive re-entry. Satellites are fragile, even a very
    small frag-charge would screw 'em up.

    As for stuff "raining down", we already have those - they
    are called 'cluster munitions'.

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  • From 68g.1509@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri Feb 16 16:05:15 2024
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    On 2/16/24 11:50 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-16, Lucas McCain <Lucas_McCain@tutanato.com> wrote:
    On 2/15/2024 8:20 PM, 68g.1509 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13089227/republicans-capability-russia-anti-satellite-alarmist.html

    Republicans question if the US has the capability to respond
    to Russia attacking its satellites: GOP infighting continues
    as some raise concern about American strength in space and
    others criticize 'alarmist' warning

    . . .

      More panic over a currently non-existent Russian weapon.


    From your cited article:

    "White House national security spokesman John Kirby seemingly confirmed
    reports that the threat was related to Moscow's plan to put a nuclear
    weapon into space to target and destroy satellites the world depends on
    for communication."

    Could be the feared EMP space weapon that could knock out electronics
    and power plants in a targeted, land based area. Hardly "panic" on the
    part of concerned Americans, and it seems to be speculation on your part
    that the weapons are "non-existent." The Kremlin has learned valuable
    lessons about Western capabilities from the war in Ukraine, much to the
    detriment of the West, IMHO.

    It's probably a "wag the dog" ploy to get the Hur report out of the press.


    This whole thing DOES stink ... but we MAY be looking at
    a two-tailed dog here. The scare DOES serve certain US
    politicians - but it may ALSO serve Putin. It smells of
    Reagan's "Star Wars" ploy except now it's the USA that
    is freaked.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 17 12:16:41 2024
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    On Fri, 16 Feb 2024, 68g.1509 wrote:

    On 2/16/24 4:42 AM, D wrote:


    On Thu, 15 Feb 2024, 68g.1509 wrote:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13089227/republicans-capability-russia-anti-satellite-alarmist.html

    Republicans question if the US has the capability to respond
    to Russia attacking its satellites: GOP infighting continues
    as some raise concern about American strength in space and
    others criticize 'alarmist' warning

    . . .

     More panic over a currently non-existent Russian weapon.

     It has already been proven that ground or air-launched
     missiles can hit satellites. China and Russia made a big
     mess in orbit proving this a couple years ago.

     However a laser-based sat killer could zap a lot more
     sats a lot quicker - with no telltale missiles rising
     and the time-delay involved.

     As for western mil/comm sats ... they are NOT armored.
     That'd add WAY WAY too much weight. A couple taps from
     a strong pulsed laser and that'd be that. Even shiny
     foils might not offer much protection and in many apps
     would interfere with radio transmissions and/or
     solar panels. Di/Trichrotic mirror film MIGHT get
     past some of those problems, but you kinda need to
     know the enemy laser frequency ahead of time.

     Despite sci-fi, particle beams are likely NOT very
     good for long-range attacks in Earth orbit. Maybe
     something like a "micro-missile", maybe the size of
     a pencil, with a really smart guidance system, could
     be employed.

     So, the best protection is to NOT have the fuckin' war
     in the first place. Nobody really wins ; they just get
     the honor of rotting to death a couple weeks later on.

    What's the smallest size missile from orbit that would cause enough damage >> to justify the costs of getting it there in the first place?

    I'm thinking something sci-fi like like a cloud of small missiles raining >> down on the enemy.


    HUMAN/military targets ??? Mostly you're talking something
    kinda larger there - plus they'd need shielding to even
    survive re-entry. Satellites are fragile, even a very
    small frag-charge would screw 'em up.

    As for stuff "raining down", we already have those - they
    are called 'cluster munitions'.

    Yes, that was in the back of my mind, the re-entry. But I wonder if it
    would be possible to "go slow" to keep it light, but that on the other
    hand, would give the enemy a lot more time to react.

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