On 11/8/22 12:01 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
In article <v5Wdnenc5Za5VPT-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> wrote:
Yes, it's *BAD* ... and it is going to be a grueling
fight to the death. Putin cannot afford to lose and
Russia is already running away.
RussIANS ... their soldiers have had it. However Russia
is still a de-facto dictatorship so PUTIN will keep
throwing bodies at the Ukrainians.
neither can the Ukrainians. With winter coming on mere
battle will become pure torture for both sides.
Too bad ukrainians have never experienced a ukrainian winter
before.
A lot are rural, so they HAVE. The city slickers, well ...
Of course Russians are well-used to winter as well.
Doesn't mean winter won't inflict a lot of extra
suffering though.
In article <v5Wdnenc5Za5VPT-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> wrote:
Yes, it's *BAD* ... and it is going to be a grueling
fight to the death. Putin cannot afford to lose and
Russia is already running away.
neither can the Ukrainians. With winter coming on mere
battle will become pure torture for both sides.
Too bad ukrainians have never experienced a ukrainian winter
before.
On 11/8/2022 10:17 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
On 11/8/22 12:01 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
In article <v5Wdnenc5Za5VPT-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> wrote:
Yes, it's *BAD* ... and it is going to be a grueling
fight to the death. Putin cannot afford to lose and
Russia is already running away.
RussIANS ... their soldiers have had it. However Russia
is still a de-facto dictatorship so PUTIN will keep
throwing bodies at the Ukrainians.
News reports that Zelenski is asking for a peace conference,
neither can the Ukrainians. With winter coming on mere
battle will become pure torture for both sides.
Too bad ukrainians have never experienced a ukrainian winter
before.
A lot are rural, so they HAVE. The city slickers, well ...
Of course Russians are well-used to winter as well.
Doesn't mean winter won't inflict a lot of extra
suffering though.
On 11/8/2022 9:22 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
On 11/8/2022 10:17 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
On 11/8/22 12:01 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
In article <v5Wdnenc5Za5VPT-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> wrote:
Yes, it's *BAD* ... and it is going to be a grueling
fight to the death. Putin cannot afford to lose and
Russia is already running away.
RussIANS ... their soldiers have had it. However Russia
is still a de-facto dictatorship so PUTIN will keep
throwing bodies at the Ukrainians.
News reports that Zelenski is asking for a peace conference,
https://globalgulag.us/ukraine-u-s-deceives-allies-to-keep-them-in-line/
The Biden administration launched a make-believe campaign that is
supposed to calm those European ‘allies’ who press for peace talks over Ukraine.
But, as the Washington Post provides, the alleged Biden push towards negotiations is a sham:
The Biden administration is privately encouraging Ukraine’s leaders to signal an openness to negotiate with Russia and drop their public
refusal to engage in peace talks unless President Vladimir Putin is
removed from power, according to people familiar with the
discussions.The request by American officials is not aimed at pushing
Ukraine to the negotiating table, these people said. Rather, they called
it a calculated attempt to ensure the government in Kyiv maintains the support of other nations facing constituencies wary of fueling a war for
many years to come.
…
While U.S. officials share their Ukrainian counterparts’ assessment that Putin, for now, isn’t serious about negotiations, they acknowledge that President Volodymyr Zelensky’s ban on talks with him has generated
concern in parts of Europe, Africa and Latin America, where the war’s disruptive effects on the availability and cost of food and fuel are
felt most sharply.
If Zelensky will now start to offer talks we know that it will not be
serious but just for show.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/ukraine-us-deceives-allies-to-keep-them-in-line.html#more
On 11/8/22 11:52 PM, Hisler wrote:
On 11/8/2022 9:22 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
On 11/8/2022 10:17 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
On 11/8/22 12:01 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
In article <v5Wdnenc5Za5VPT-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> wrote:
Yes, it's *BAD* ... and it is going to be a grueling
fight to the death. Putin cannot afford to lose and
Russia is already running away.
RussIANS ... their soldiers have had it. However Russia
is still a de-facto dictatorship so PUTIN will keep
throwing bodies at the Ukrainians.
News reports that Zelenski is asking for a peace conference,
https://globalgulag.us/ukraine-u-s-deceives-allies-to-keep-them-in-line/
The Biden administration launched a make-believe campaign that is
supposed to calm those European ‘allies’ who press for peace talks
over Ukraine.
But, as the Washington Post provides, the alleged Biden push towards
negotiations is a sham:
The Biden administration is privately encouraging Ukraine’s leaders to
signal an openness to negotiate with Russia and drop their public
refusal to engage in peace talks unless President Vladimir Putin is
removed from power, according to people familiar with the
discussions.The request by American officials is not aimed at pushing
Ukraine to the negotiating table, these people said. Rather, they
called it a calculated attempt to ensure the government in Kyiv
maintains the support of other nations facing constituencies wary of
fueling a war for many years to come.
…
While U.S. officials share their Ukrainian counterparts’ assessment
that Putin, for now, isn’t serious about negotiations, they
acknowledge that President Volodymyr Zelensky’s ban on talks with him
has generated concern in parts of Europe, Africa and Latin America,
where the war’s disruptive effects on the availability and cost of
food and fuel are felt most sharply.
If Zelensky will now start to offer talks we know that it will not be
serious but just for show.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/ukraine-us-deceives-allies-to-keep-them-in-line.html#more
The Ukrainians are INCENSED ... there will be NO peace
until they've blasted every Russian inside their borders.
The PRETENSE of "peace" is good politics, but it's BS.
PaxPerPoten wrote:
On 11/8/2022 10:17 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
On 11/8/22 12:01 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> wrote:
Yes, it's *BAD* ... and it is going to be a grueling
fight to the death. Putin cannot afford to lose and
Russia is already running away.
RussIANS ... their soldiers have had it. However Russia
is still a de-facto dictatorship so PUTIN will keep
throwing bodies at the Ukrainians.
News reports that Zelenski is asking for a peace conference,
Oh?
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