• Re: More Proof Of Biden's Effective Leadership

    From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 1 14:51:26 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Job openings surged in September despite Federal Reserve
    | efforts aimed at loosening up a historically tight labor
    | market that has helped feed the highest inflation readings
    | in four decades.
    |
    | Employment openings for the month totaled 10.72 million,
    | well above the FactSet estimate for 9.85 million, according
    | to data Tuesday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics' Job
    | Openings and Labor Turnover Survey.
    |
    | The total eclipsed August's upwardly revised level by
    | nearly half a million.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/01/jolts-september-2022.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 4 13:43:14 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | U.S. payrolls surged by 261,000 in October, better than
    | expected as hiring remains strong
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/04/jobs-report-october-2022-.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 13 03:16:01 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Democrats retain control of the Senate after holding Nevada seat
    | ... <https://www.npr.org/2022/11/12/1134623001/democrats-keep-us-senate-nevada-election>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Nov 13 05:47:13 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:tkpnhh$hu8$2@reader2.panix.com:

    |
    | Democrats retain control of the Senate after holding Nevada seat
    | ...
    <https://www.npr.org/2022/11/12/1134623001/democrats-keep-us-senate-nev ada-election>

    --bks




    Since Trump took office in 2017 Republicans
    have lost the House, the Senate, the White House
    and multiple governorships.

    Why do Republicans still support a proven
    loser?

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  • From Hisler@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Nov 13 08:31:48 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 11/13/2022 8:24 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 03:16:01 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Democrats retain control of the Senate after holding Nevada seat
    | ...
    <https://www.npr.org/2022/11/12/1134623001/democrats-keep-us-senate-nevada-election>

    --bks

    How's that exactly? Democrats did everything they could to *run* from Biden's policies this election.

    Bullshit.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Nov 13 11:24:16 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 03:16:01 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Democrats retain control of the Senate after holding Nevada seat
    | ...
    <https://www.npr.org/2022/11/12/1134623001/democrats-keep-us-senate-nevada-election>

    --bks

    How's that exactly? Democrats did everything they could to *run* from
    Biden's policies this election...duh.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to NoBody@nowhere.com on Sun Nov 13 16:33:03 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    |
    | Democrats retain control of the Senate after holding Nevada seat
    | ...

    How's that exactly?
    ...

    I love the smell of Russian troll heads exploding in the morning.

    --bks

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to noemail@verizon.net on Sun Nov 13 16:22:32 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 05:47:13 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in >news:tkpnhh$hu8$2@reader2.panix.com:

    |
    | Democrats retain control of the Senate after holding Nevada seat
    | ...
    <https://www.npr.org/2022/11/12/1134623001/democrats-keep-us-senate-nev
    ada-election>

    --bks




    Since Trump took office in 2017 Republicans
    have lost the House, the Senate, the White House
    and multiple governorships.

    Why do Republicans still support a proven
    loser?

    Indeed. In the 2014 midterms the Dems had fewer than a quarter of governorships. Now they have half of them and have increased their
    control of state legislatures across the country, even in formerly red
    states.

    The GOP needs to shed its radical wing and firm up its moderate center
    or it'll go the way of the dodo.

    Swill
    --
    23:24
    https://youtu.be/339qpUFyI28

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Nov 15 07:02:20 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:33:03 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    |
    | Democrats retain control of the Senate after holding Nevada seat
    | ...

    How's that exactly?
    ...

    I love the smell of Russian troll heads exploding in the morning.

    --bks

    Then perhaps you should shower? Oh, and as usual you can't answer a
    reasonable question.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 16 14:03:10 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Biden handled the "Russian Missile Crisis" perfectly:
    |
    | President Biden returns home from a week of diplomacy and
    | crisis management in the Middle East and Asia strengthened
    | in his faith that this period of war and economic turmoil
    | calls for his brand of coalition-building politics --
    | reinforcing the leadership differences with his
    | predecessor, Donald J. Trump, just as he announced another
    | White House run on Tuesday.
    | ...
    | As reports emerged of Russian-made rockets killing two
    | people in Poland, Mr. Biden convened an emergency meeting
    | with NATO and Group of 7 leaders over the latest missile
    | strikes in Russia's war in Ukraine, declining to speculate
    | on the source until more facts were known.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/16/world/biden-trump-g20.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 1 14:09:13 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Quit Underestimating President Biden
    |
    | by Newt Gingrich
    |
    | Republicans must learn to quit underestimating President
    | Joe Biden.
    | ... <https://www.gingrich360.com/2022/11/30/quit-underestimating-president-biden/>

    --bks

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Dec 1 20:17:32 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 14:09:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Quit Underestimating President Biden
    |
    | by Newt Gingrich
    |
    | Republicans must learn to quit underestimating President
    | Joe Biden.
    | ...
    <https://www.gingrich360.com/2022/11/30/quit-underestimating-president-biden/>

    --bks

    "This is a much bigger challenge than I would have guessed before the election." - Newt Gingrich

    Duh. No wonder he was voted out of his own speakership.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 2 13:41:15 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | U.S. gas prices plunge toward $3 a gallon as demand drops
    | worldwide
    |
    | The average price of gas is back to where it was before
    | Russia invaded Ukraine. It is putting real money back in
    | Americans' wallets.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/11/30/gas-prices-drop-russia-oil/>

    |
    | U.S. added 263,000 jobs in November, a strong showing amid
    | tech slowdown
    |
    | The unemployment rate remained unchanged at 3.7 percent.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/12/02/jobs-report-november-economy/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 4 16:09:04 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | The price of gasoline is dropping like a rock. Chicken
    | wings are suddenly a bargain. And retailers drowning in
    | excess inventory are looking to make a deal.
    |
    | After more than a year of high inflation, many consumers
    | are finally starting to catch a break. Even apartment rents
    | and car prices, two items that hammered millions of
    | household budgets this year, are no longer spiraling out of
    | control.
    |
    | Global supply chains are finally operating normally, as
    | more consumers spend more on in-person services like
    | restaurant meals and less on goods like furniture and
    | computers that come from an ocean away. The cost of sending
    | a standard 40-foot container from China to the U.S. West
    | Coast is $1,935 -- down more than 90 percent from its
    | September 2021 peak of $20,586, according to the online
    | freight marketplace Freightos.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/12/04/inflation-prices-going-down/>

    --bks

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Dec 4 14:49:17 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 16:09:04 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | The price of gasoline is dropping like a rock. Chicken
    | wings are suddenly a bargain. And retailers drowning in
    | excess inventory are looking to make a deal.
    |
    | After more than a year of high inflation, many consumers
    | are finally starting to catch a break. Even apartment rents
    | and car prices, two items that hammered millions of
    | household budgets this year, are no longer spiraling out of
    | control.
    |
    | Global supply chains are finally operating normally, as
    | more consumers spend more on in-person services like
    | restaurant meals and less on goods like furniture and
    | computers that come from an ocean away. The cost of sending
    | a standard 40-foot container from China to the U.S. West
    | Coast is $1,935 -- down more than 90 percent from its
    | September 2021 peak of $20,586, according to the online
    | freight marketplace Freightos.
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/12/04/inflation-prices-going-down/>

    Best measure for the economy: Are you seeing a LOT of Christmas
    commercials? Any big Sales?

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Mon Dec 5 01:05:20 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 04 Dec 2022 14:49:17 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 16:09:04 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | The price of gasoline is dropping like a rock. Chicken
    | wings are suddenly a bargain. And retailers drowning in
    | excess inventory are looking to make a deal.
    |
    | After more than a year of high inflation, many consumers
    | are finally starting to catch a break. Even apartment rents
    | and car prices, two items that hammered millions of
    | household budgets this year, are no longer spiraling out of
    | control.
    |
    | Global supply chains are finally operating normally, as
    | more consumers spend more on in-person services like
    | restaurant meals and less on goods like furniture and
    | computers that come from an ocean away. The cost of sending
    | a standard 40-foot container from China to the U.S. West
    | Coast is $1,935 -- down more than 90 percent from its
    | September 2021 peak of $20,586, according to the online
    | freight marketplace Freightos.
    | ... >><https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/12/04/inflation-prices-going-down/>

    Best measure for the economy: Are you seeing a LOT of Christmas
    commercials? Any big Sales?

    Cruising around the net, didn't find any desperate retailers yet.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 8 14:03:34 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Brittney Griner released by Russia in 1-for-1 prisoner swap
    | for arms dealer Viktor Bout
    | ... <https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/brittney-griner-release-russia-prisoner-swap-viktor-bout/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 19 16:16:57 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve
    | ... <https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-scores-4-billion-windfall-on-oil-reserve-sales-11671420244>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 22 15:43:34 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ... <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Dec 22 12:05:00 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 22 19:56:46 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    |
    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.
    |
    | The vote was 68-29 on sweeping legislation that will keep
    | the government funded through next fall and overhaul
    | election laws in an attempt to prevent another Jan. 6.
    | ... <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-passes-17-trillion-government-funding-bill-overhauls-us-electio-rcna62607?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_np>

    --bks

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Dec 23 00:00:43 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 19:56:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.
    |
    | The vote was 68-29 on sweeping legislation that will keep
    | the government funded through next fall and overhaul
    | election laws in an attempt to prevent another Jan. 6.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-passes-17-trillion-government-funding-bill-overhauls-us-electio-rcna62607?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_np>


    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Fri Dec 23 07:01:44 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ... >><https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html> >>
    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article...

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Dec 23 07:01:09 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Interesting that Bradley left these bits of important information out:

    "

    The Dow sank as America’s economy grew much faster than previously
    thought in the third quarter, a sign that the Federal Reserve’s battle
    to cool the economy to fight inflation is having only a limited
    impact. "


    Out of control inflation continues = less buying power and more
    expensive goods.

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "



    When the crash happens (and it will) it will be historic.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Dec 23 07:20:49 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html> >>>
    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Horseshit #000-001. Horseshit. Bullshit. Shit. @
    'I desire torrid wild-eyed bungholery.' /|\
    I'm saving up to buy a big zucchini to This post / \
    shove 30cm up my growler! insults basic decency.

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  • From Fred Axelrod@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Dec 23 07:20:47 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html> >>
    --bks

    Interesting that Bradley left these bits of important information out:

    "

    The Dow sank as America’s economy grew much faster than previously
    thought in the third quarter, a sign that the Federal Reserve’s battle
    to cool the economy to fight inflation is having only a limited
    impact. "


    Out of control inflation continues

    Bullshit.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 23 17:46:31 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ... <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Dec 23 21:05:52 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    "Wall Street Journal: “Goods are moving around the world again and
    reaching companies and consumers, despite some production snarls and
    Covid outbreaks inside China. Gone are the weekslong backlogs of cargo
    ships at large ports. Ocean shipping rates have plunged below
    prepandemic levels.”"

    Looks like Biden's new rules for shipping and trucking worked out
    after all.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Dec 23 21:03:45 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:01:44 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>Sherman) wrote:
    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ... >>><https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article...

    Yes, I did. 2.9% growth was predicted for Q3 but the final number was
    3.2%.

    With additional research I found this follows a second quarter
    decrease of .6% and a first quarter drop of 1.5%. Q1 and 2, 2022
    might have been the shortest recession in US history since we're in
    positive growth ytd already with strong Christmas sales.

    That just chaps your ass, doesn't it, Sparky?

    "The queue for the Fifth Avenue Lego store snaked around the block one lunchtime this week, as New Yorkers and tourists jostled to pluck
    last-minute Christmas presents from shelves in the shadow of a
    plastic-brick model of the nearby Rockefeller Center.
    <snip>
    "The National Retail Federation expects this year’s US holiday retail
    sales to grow by 6-8 per cent over 2021’s record-setting $889bn. Some
    brands are pointing to a stronger season than that, with Nike saying
    on Wednesday that its North American revenues were up by double digits
    over Black Friday and Cyber Week."

    More details at: https://www.ft.com/content/4178809c-9bc5-445d-a0d8-9737398a31a9

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Dec 23 21:19:46 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:01:09 -0500, NoBody wrote:

    The Dow sank as America’s economy grew much faster than previously
    thought in the third quarter, a sign that the Federal Reserve’s battle
    to cool the economy to fight inflation is having only a limited
    impact. "

    Yet inflation is dropping and Christmas sales at record highs prove
    there is no recession. Besides, as so many rightists insisted during
    the Obama Administration, the performance of the stock market bears NO
    relation to how the economy is actually doing.

    How's that petard feel shoved up your ass?

    ROTFL!

    Out of control inflation continues = less buying power and more
    expensive goods.

    You're wrong as usual. Inflation in the US has been steadily
    dropping. It's now down to 7%, flat against last year.

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    When the crash happens (and it will) it will be historic.

    You guys love making that bullshit prediction when Democrats are in
    power. The only "historic" crashes have been when Republicans were
    running the country in 1930, 1982, 1991 and 2008.

    It will likely be as unnoticeable as the recession earlier this year
    that lasted just four months. Few people were bothered by it.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Dec 24 10:35:03 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Horseshit #000-001. Horseshit. Bullshit. Shit. @
    'I desire torrid wild-eyed bungholery.' /|\
    I'm saving up to buy a big zucchini to This post / \
    shove 30cm up my growler! insults basic decency.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chink.blow@yah∩â”â•œo.com on Sat Dec 24 13:28:25 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    Pay attention to the whole story. What appears to be good news is
    actually a harbinger of the major disaster coming.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Dec 24 13:36:17 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    Well that's a lie:

    "Formula makers have stepped up marketing campaigns to grab a bigger
    piece of the lucrative, $5.6 billion formula market, after a severe
    shortage earlier this year shook consumer confidence, said Allen
    Sayler, an industry consultant.

    The months-long closure of Abbott Laboratories' (ABT.N) formula plant
    in Michigan, after complaints of bacterial infections in infants,
    eroded the Similac maker's market share. Other brands had a chance to
    step in due to relaxed government rules, frantic parents looking for
    formula and retailers like Walmart (WMT.N) seeking alternatives,
    Sayler said."

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-baby-formula-shortage-leads-boom-advertisements-2022-12-22/

    After a year there is still a shortage

    "Car parts shortage leaves drivers waiting months for repairs"

    https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/car-parts-shortage-leaves-drivers-waiting-months-for-repairs

    Boeing can't get parts

    https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2022/12/23/supply-chain-challenges-slow-work-on-dreamliner.html

    "More than half of logistics managers at major companies and trade
    groups say they do not expect the supply chain to return to normal
    until 2024 or after, according to a new CNBC survey."

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/23/supply-chain-managers-expect-problems-continue-2024.html

    Bradley does nothing but lie.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sat Dec 24 13:40:05 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 21:03:45 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:01:44 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>Sherman) wrote:
    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ... >>>><https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article...

    Yes, I did. 2.9% growth was predicted for Q3 but the final number was
    3.2%.

    Apparently you read only the parts that suited your opinion. You
    missed this part:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    The disaster is well on its way. Recession will be an understatement
    given the inflation rate and the increasing consumer debt.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sat Dec 24 13:37:01 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 21:05:52 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ... >><https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    "Wall Street Journal: “Goods are moving around the world again and
    reaching companies and consumers, despite some production snarls and
    Covid outbreaks inside China. Gone are the weekslong backlogs of cargo
    ships at large ports. Ocean shipping rates have plunged below
    prepandemic levels.”"

    Looks like Biden's new rules for shipping and trucking worked out
    after all.

    Swill

    And yet I just provided four citation to show that is a lie.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Dec 24 10:40:28 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/24/2022 10:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    Well that's a lie:

    No, it isn't.


    "Formula makers have stepped up marketing campaigns to grab a bigger
    piece of the lucrative, $5.6 billion formula market, after a severe
    shortage earlier this year shook consumer confidence, said Allen
    Sayler, an industry consultant.

    Doesn't refute the well-established claim that supply chains are back to normal.



    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-baby-formula-shortage-leads-boom-advertisements-2022-12-22/

    After a year there is still a shortage

    A shortage U.S. dairy producers are trying to keep in place.

    "Big Dairy Wants Congress To Restore Huge Tariffs on Imported Baby Formula"

    "Unless Congress takes action, those tariffs will return on January 1. And the baby formula shortage hasn't yet passed. "

    https://reason.com/2022/12/19/big-dairy-wants-congress-to-restore-huge-tariffs-on-imported-baby-formula/

    A baby formula shortage is not due to any supply chain problems. It's due to corrupt dairy corporations.

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Horseshit #000-001. Horseshit. Bullshit. Shit. @
    'I desire torrid wild-eyed bungholery.' /|\
    I'm saving up to buy a big zucchini to This post / \
    shove 30cm up my growler! insults basic decency.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mark Wieber@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Dec 24 10:50:24 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/24/2022 10:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 21:03:45 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:01:44 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:
    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article...

    Yes, I did. 2.9% growth was predicted for Q3 but the final number was
    3.2%.

    Apparently you read only the parts that suited your opinion. You
    missed this part:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    But it hasn't, and nothing points toward it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mattb@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Dec 24 10:49:40 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/24/2022 10:37 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 21:05:52 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    "Wall Street Journal: “Goods are moving around the world again and
    reaching companies and consumers, despite some production snarls and
    Covid outbreaks inside China. Gone are the weekslong backlogs of cargo
    ships at large ports. Ocean shipping rates have plunged below
    prepandemic levels.â€"

    Looks like Biden's new rules for shipping and trucking worked out
    after all.

    Swill

    And yet I just provided four citation [sic] to show that is a lie.

    No, you didn't.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 24 20:40:44 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal

    |
    | After Jan. 6: Congress born of chaos ends in achievement
    |
    | The 117th Congress opened with the unfathomable Jan. 6,
    | 2021, mob siege of the Capitol and is closing with
    | unprecedented federal criminal referrals of the former
    | president over the insurrection -- all while conducting one
    | of the most consequential legislative sessions in recent
    | memory.
    |
    | Lawmakers are wrapping up the two-year session having found
    | surprisingly common ground on big bills, despite enduring
    | bitter political divisions that haunt the halls, and the
    | country, after the bloody Capitol attack by supporters of
    | the defeated president, Donald Trump, that threatened
    | democracy.
    | ... <https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-ketanji-brown-jackson-politics-europe-donald-trump-143cce189228d6563eba07298cc9f8a1>

    --bks

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Dec 25 00:05:21 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 13:36:17 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ... >><https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    Well that's a lie:

    "Formula makers have stepped up marketing campaigns to grab a bigger
    piece of the lucrative, $5.6 billion formula market, after a severe
    shortage earlier this year shook consumer confidence, said Allen
    Sayler, an industry consultant.

    The months-long closure of Abbott Laboratories' (ABT.N) formula plant
    in Michigan, after complaints of bacterial infections in infants,
    eroded the Similac maker's market share. Other brands had a chance to
    step in due to relaxed government rules, frantic parents looking for
    formula and retailers like Walmart (WMT.N) seeking alternatives,
    Sayler said."

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-baby-formula-shortage-leads-boom-advertisements-2022-12-22/

    After a year there is still a shortage

    This has nothing to do with supply chains. That closure was due to
    bacterial contamination issues that took months to resolve.

    "Car parts shortage leaves drivers waiting months for repairs"

    https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/car-parts-shortage-leaves-drivers-waiting-months-for-repairs

    Boeing can't get parts

    https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2022/12/23/supply-chain-challenges-slow-work-on-dreamliner.html

    "More than half of logistics managers at major companies and trade
    groups say they do not expect the supply chain to return to normal
    until 2024 or after, according to a new CNBC survey."

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/23/supply-chain-managers-expect-problems-continue-2024.html

    Bradley does nothing but lie.

    Note that these above all boil down to not being able to get
    electronic parts. This isn't a supply chain problem but a Covid
    problem. These sorts of parts are manufactured in China and the
    Pacific Rim.

    China's Covid problem continues to keep plants shuttered or operating
    at reduced capacity and has slashed their GDP growth by 50%.

    To repeat, this is less an issue with supply chains than it is a
    regional public health issue.

    In response, manufacturers are shifting manufacturing to other
    countries (including the US) after realizing that Chinese
    manufacturers are an "all your eggs in one basket" problem.

    As I noted earlier, the shipping and trucking (goods transportation)
    issues are resolved. What's left is to get manufacturers back up to
    speed.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to chink.blow@yah├╢o.com on Sun Dec 25 00:07:04 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Republicans gleefully pronounced 2022 a recession year last spring.
    That recession appears to have either not happened or been so short
    and shallow that nobody noticed.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sun Dec 25 09:59:09 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 00:05:21 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 13:36:17 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ... >>><https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    Well that's a lie:

    "Formula makers have stepped up marketing campaigns to grab a bigger
    piece of the lucrative, $5.6 billion formula market, after a severe >>shortage earlier this year shook consumer confidence, said Allen
    Sayler, an industry consultant.

    The months-long closure of Abbott Laboratories' (ABT.N) formula plant
    in Michigan, after complaints of bacterial infections in infants,
    eroded the Similac maker's market share. Other brands had a chance to
    step in due to relaxed government rules, frantic parents looking for >>formula and retailers like Walmart (WMT.N) seeking alternatives,
    Sayler said."
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-baby-formula-shortage-leads-boom-advertisements-2022-12-22/

    After a year there is still a shortage

    This has nothing to do with supply chains. That closure was due to
    bacterial contamination issues that took months to resolve.

    "Car parts shortage leaves drivers waiting months for repairs"
    https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/car-parts-shortage-leaves-drivers-waiting-months-for-repairs

    Boeing can't get parts
    https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2022/12/23/supply-chain-challenges-slow-work-on-dreamliner.html

    "More than half of logistics managers at major companies and trade
    groups say they do not expect the supply chain to return to normal
    until 2024 or after, according to a new CNBC survey."
    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/23/supply-chain-managers-expect-problems-continue-2024.html

    Bradley does nothing but lie.

    Note that these above all boil down to not being able to get
    electronic parts. This isn't a supply chain problem but a Covid
    problem. These sorts of parts are manufactured in China and the
    Pacific Rim.

    China's Covid problem continues to keep plants shuttered or operating
    at reduced capacity and has slashed their GDP growth by 50%.

    To repeat, this is less an issue with supply chains than it is a
    regional public health issue.

    Irrelevant. The ability to get parts to market is PART of the supply
    chain. Nothing like redefining terms to get around the ugly reality.


    In response, manufacturers are shifting manufacturing to other
    countries (including the US) after realizing that Chinese
    manufacturers are an "all your eggs in one basket" problem.

    As I noted earlier, the shipping and trucking (goods transportation)
    issues are resolved. What's left is to get manufacturers back up to
    speed.

    Ah so the problem is "fixed" because there are no parts to transport.
    You sure have a weird way of looking at the world. The supply chain
    is raw materials to produce items, the ability to produce the items,
    and the ability to delver them. At least two critical items are
    missing.


    Swill

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sun Dec 25 09:51:55 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 00:07:04 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Republicans gleefully pronounced 2022 a recession year last spring.
    That recession appears to have either not happened or been so short
    and shallow that nobody noticed.

    There was a recession until you libs decided to redefine the term.
    That's how you avoid reality - you redefine it.


    Swill

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chink.blow@yah├╢o.com on Sun Dec 25 09:55:48 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:40:28 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    Well that's a lie:

    No, it isn't.


    "Formula makers have stepped up marketing campaigns to grab a bigger
    piece of the lucrative, $5.6 billion formula market, after a severe
    shortage earlier this year shook consumer confidence, said Allen
    Sayler, an industry consultant.

    Doesn't refute the well-established claim that supply chains are back to normal.

    Supply chains are "normal" but we have shortages. That's a direct
    conflict in terms...duh.




    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-baby-formula-shortage-leads-boom-advertisements-2022-12-22/

    After a year there is still a shortage

    A shortage U.S. dairy producers are trying to keep in place.

    "Big Dairy Wants Congress To Restore Huge Tariffs on Imported Baby Formula"

    "Unless Congress takes action, those tariffs will return on January 1. And the >baby formula shortage hasn't yet passed. "

    https://reason.com/2022/12/19/big-dairy-wants-congress-to-restore-huge-tariffs-on-imported-baby-formula/

    Reasion .com? Do try something credible please.


    A baby formula shortage is not due to any supply chain problems. It's due to >corrupt dairy corporations.

    Yeah that's it....

    OH and you chopped off the citation that people can't get car parts
    because of supply disruptions. Can't address it, ignore it?

    Here's another one:

    "“It was August to December in order to get that part to the
    automotive shop,” Martinez said. "Just increasingly more and more
    expensive. This was that computer repair."

    Michelle McMurry handled Martinez's repairs and thousands of others in
    her 13 years at Dave’s Ultimate Automotive in Cedar Park. The
    long-time veteran of the repair world says these are unprecedented
    times.

    “We try our best to get people out of here because we know they have
    to have their vehicles,” McMurry said. “It’s getting to the point
    where it’s getting harder and harder to do.”

    What was once considered a simple fix has turned into mounting
    frustration due to supply chain issues and a lack of materials at the manufacturer level. Computer chips and catalytic converters have been
    among the most difficult items to stock up on, but it’s a long list."

    https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/austin/news/2022/10/18/car-parts-shortages-causing-major-issues-across-texas

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Dec 25 10:00:48 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 20:40:44 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal

    |
    | After Jan. 6: Congress born of chaos ends in achievement
    |
    | The 117th Congress opened with the unfathomable Jan. 6,
    | 2021, mob siege of the Capitol and is closing with
    | unprecedented federal criminal referrals of the former
    | president over the insurrection -- all while conducting one
    | of the most consequential legislative sessions in recent
    | memory.
    |
    | Lawmakers are wrapping up the two-year session having found
    | surprisingly common ground on big bills, despite enduring
    | bitter political divisions that haunt the halls, and the
    | country, after the bloody Capitol attack by supporters of
    | the defeated president, Donald Trump, that threatened
    | democracy.
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-ketanji-brown-jackson-politics-europe-donald-trump-143cce189228d6563eba07298cc9f8a1>

    --bks

    And Bradley cheers a political hit job and a circus court.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 25 09:59:47 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:49:40 -0800, Mattb <trdell666@assholes.org>
    wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:37 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 21:05:52 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    "Wall Street Journal: “Goods are moving around the world again and
    reaching companies and consumers, despite some production snarls and
    Covid outbreaks inside China. Gone are the weekslong backlogs of cargo
    ships at large ports. Ocean shipping rates have plunged below
    prepandemic levels.”"

    Looks like Biden's new rules for shipping and trucking worked out
    after all.

    Swill

    And yet I just provided four citation [sic] to show that is a lie.

    No, you didn't.


    Nothing like Rudely trolling around.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chink.blow@yah├╢o.com on Sun Dec 25 09:51:07 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third
    quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion.
    Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019,
    before the pandemic recession. "

    https://www.newyorkfed.org/newsevents/news/research/2022/20221115


    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12
    months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to
    U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated
    under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening
    consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are
    likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year.
    "
    https://www.conference-board.org/topics/recession/2023-GEO-US-edition

    There are none so blind...

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  • From nickname unavailable@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Dec 25 22:03:39 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third
    quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion. Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019,
    before the pandemic recession. "

    That's not a signal of impending recession.


    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12
    months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to
    U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    Neither is that.

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated
    under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening
    consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are
    likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year."
    "

    Increasing consumer debt is *not* a sign of falling consumer confidence — exactly the opposite.

    A recession might happen, but nothing at present is pointing to one.

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  • From Someone@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Dec 25 22:03:41 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 00:07:04 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the >>>> US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Republicans gleefully pronounced 2022 a recession year last spring.
    That recession appears to have either not happened or been so short
    and shallow that nobody noticed.

    There was a recession until

    No, there wasn't.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Dec 25 22:03:43 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/25/2022 6:55 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:40:28 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    Well that's a lie:

    No, it isn't.


    "Formula makers have stepped up marketing campaigns to grab a bigger
    piece of the lucrative, $5.6 billion formula market, after a severe
    shortage earlier this year shook consumer confidence, said Allen
    Sayler, an industry consultant.

    Doesn't refute the well-established claim that supply chains are back to normal.

    Supply chains are "normal" but we have shortages. That's a direct
    conflict in terms

    Most supply chains are normal. A constriction in one small industry is not indicative of overall supply chain problems.



    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-baby-formula-shortage-leads-boom-advertisements-2022-12-22/

    After a year there is still a shortage

    A shortage U.S. dairy producers are trying to keep in place.

    "Big Dairy Wants Congress To Restore Huge Tariffs on Imported Baby Formula" >>
    "Unless Congress takes action, those tariffs will return on January 1. And the
    baby formula shortage hasn't yet passed. "

    https://reason.com/2022/12/19/big-dairy-wants-congress-to-restore-huge-tariffs-on-imported-baby-formula/

    Reasion .com? Do try something credible please.

    It has the highest credibility.


    A baby formula shortage is not due to any supply chain problems. It's due to >> corrupt dairy corporations.

    Yeah that's it....

    Yep. Companies seeking higher tariffs in order to boost prices is corruption by
    definition.

    OH and you chopped off the citation that people can't get car parts
    because of supply disruptions.

    That's no longer the case.
    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Horseshit #000-001. Horseshit. Bullshit. Shit. @
    'I desire torrid wild-eyed bungholery.' /|\
    I'm saving up to buy a big zucchini to This post / \
    shove 30cm up my growler! insults basic decency.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Gerald Clausen@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Dec 25 22:03:45 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/25/2022 6:59 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:49:40 -0800, Mattb <trdell666@assholes.org>
    wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:37 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 21:05:52 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>> | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    "Wall Street Journal: “Goods are moving around the world again and
    reaching companies and consumers, despite some production snarls and
    Covid outbreaks inside China. Gone are the weekslong backlogs of cargo >>>> ships at large ports. Ocean shipping rates have plunged below
    prepandemic levels.â€"

    Looks like Biden's new rules for shipping and trucking worked out
    after all.

    Swill

    And yet I just provided four citation [sic] to show that is a lie.

    No, you didn't.


    Nothing like Prof. Canoza *fooling me* and kicking my flabby doughy pimply racist ass again.

    Every fucking time.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 26 04:07:12 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:45 -0800, Gerald Clausen <gc@gusd.edu>
    wrote:

    Canoza

    I wouldn't wish anybody dead but I wish you would get another hobby.
    Maybe become a hemlock gourmet or take up climbing power line towers.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Dec 26 04:08:15 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:43 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:

    Most supply chains are normal. A constriction in one small industry is not >indicative of overall supply chain problems.

    The empty shelves at local grocery stores have been replaced with
    goods for sale.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Dec 26 04:18:01 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 09:51:55 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 00:07:04 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Republicans gleefully pronounced 2022 a recession year last spring.
    That recession appears to have either not happened or been so short
    and shallow that nobody noticed.

    There was a recession until you libs decided to redefine the term.
    That's how you avoid reality - you redefine it.

    There was economic contraction in Q1 and 2 spread across four months
    before recovery began.

    Poor baby. That mean ol' Demokwat is doing a better job than you were
    hoping at managing the economy . . .

    Since a recession has long been defined as two consecutive quarters of
    negative growth, this link will prove I am correct. It was an
    extremely short recession (just two quarters - a mere correction from
    2021's near 6% growth rate) and so mild, Americans didn't even notice. https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gross-domestic-product

    That leaves us with a net GDP growth of around 1% ytd with Q4 and it's
    record xmas sales yet to be counted. We'll end up with about 2% on
    the year. Average that with near 6% growth in 2021 and you have close
    to 4% per year post Covid growth.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to nickname unavailable on Mon Dec 26 04:26:10 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:39 -0800, nickname unavailable wrote:
    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third
    quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion.
    Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019,
    before the pandemic recession. "

    That's not a signal of impending recession.

    No it's not. It's a sign of consumer confidence rising which is a
    sign that NO recession is coming soon.

    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12
    months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to
    U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    Neither is that.

    And that rate, currently 7.1% was 8.7% during the summer so it looks
    like Biden and his Fed Chair are having more effect on inflation than
    anybody thought.

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated
    under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening
    consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are
    likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year."
    "

    Increasing consumer debt is *not* a sign of falling consumer confidence — >exactly the opposite.

    A recession might happen, but nothing at present is pointing to one.

    CNN, like any news outlet, depends on sensationalism and shocking news
    reports to keep 'em clicking.

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have
    plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    Btw, the cause of inflation THIS TIME was a shortage of goods caused
    by supply chain disruptions post Covid. Now that those disruptions
    are largely resolved, goods are filling shelves and "more money
    chasing less goods" is turning into a flattening of the inflation
    rate. The Fed really doesn't even need to take action. This round of inflation will fix itself as producers rush products to fill store
    shelves and take advantage of inflation induced mark ups and high
    profit margins.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Mon Dec 26 10:43:13 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:08:15 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:43 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:

    Most supply chains are normal. A constriction in one small industry is not >>indicative of overall supply chain problems.

    The empty shelves at local grocery stores have been replaced with
    goods for sale.

    Swill

    Soime industries have recovered but vital industries have not. As
    noted and cited we still have a baby formula shortage and an
    incredible back log of car parts. If you have to wait more than a
    week for a brake job we have a serious problem. You cannot declare
    that the supply chain is normal with continual shortages of vital
    products.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chink.blow@yah∩â”â•œo.com on Mon Dec 26 10:40:14 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:43 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/25/2022 6:55 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:40:28 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>> | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    Well that's a lie:

    No, it isn't.


    "Formula makers have stepped up marketing campaigns to grab a bigger
    piece of the lucrative, $5.6 billion formula market, after a severe
    shortage earlier this year shook consumer confidence, said Allen
    Sayler, an industry consultant.

    Doesn't refute the well-established claim that supply chains are back to normal.

    Supply chains are "normal" but we have shortages. That's a direct
    conflict in terms

    Most supply chains are normal. A constriction in one small industry is not >indicative of overall supply chain problems.


    The automative and baby formula industries are NOT small. Oy!



    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-baby-formula-shortage-leads-boom-advertisements-2022-12-22/

    After a year there is still a shortage

    A shortage U.S. dairy producers are trying to keep in place.

    "Big Dairy Wants Congress To Restore Huge Tariffs on Imported Baby Formula" >>>
    "Unless Congress takes action, those tariffs will return on January 1. And the
    baby formula shortage hasn't yet passed. "

    https://reason.com/2022/12/19/big-dairy-wants-congress-to-restore-huge-tariffs-on-imported-baby-formula/

    Reasion .com? Do try something credible please.

    It has the highest credibility.

    Heh. Try again please.



    A baby formula shortage is not due to any supply chain problems. It's due to
    corrupt dairy corporations.

    Yeah that's it....

    Yep. Companies seeking higher tariffs in order to boost prices is corruption by
    definition.


    "LONDON, Dec 2 (Reuters) - The near year-long infant formula shortage
    in the United States that prompted the intervention of the White House
    is likely to "persist" until spring, according to Reckitt Benckiser,
    the maker of what is now the biggest brand in the market, Enfamil."

    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/enfamil-maker-reckitt-sees-formula-shortage-continuing-until-spring-2022-12-01/

    Nothing about greedy companies and tarrifs.

    OH and you chopped off the citation that people can't get car parts
    because of supply disruptions.

    That's no longer the case.

    Liar.

    "What to do if your dealer can't find a critical part for your car
    Auto Shop Extended Warranties mechanic
    By: John Matarese
    Posted at 6:00 AM, Dec 07, 2022
    and last updated 7:11 AM, Dec 07, 2022

    Going a day or two without your car is hard enough. But, some drivers
    these days are discovering that parts to fix their cars have been on
    backorder since last spring, leaving them with nothing to drive for
    months.

    Chris Ventura has been repairing cars for more than 25 years at his
    shop Auto Pros.

    He says he has never seen a parts shortage as bad as this.

    "Day by day it gets frustrating, and more frustrating," he said. "Even
    your basic brake job can take major time to find the product.""

    https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/car-parts-shortage-leaves-drivers-waiting-months-for-repairs

    Did you note the date?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Mon Dec 26 10:34:26 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:18:01 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 09:51:55 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 00:07:04 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from >>>>>>>>>> | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>> | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool >>>>> demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the >>>>> US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Republicans gleefully pronounced 2022 a recession year last spring.
    That recession appears to have either not happened or been so short
    and shallow that nobody noticed.

    There was a recession until you libs decided to redefine the term.
    That's how you avoid reality - you redefine it.

    There was economic contraction in Q1 and 2 spread across four months
    before recovery began.


    It's not a contraction. It's the definition of a recess...duh.

    Poor baby. That mean ol' Demokwat is doing a better job than you were
    hoping at managing the economy . . .

    I don't hope for failure like you appear to do. I just state the
    facts.


    Since a recession has long been defined as two consecutive quarters of >negative growth, this link will prove I am correct. It was an
    extremely short recession (just two quarters - a mere correction from
    2021's near 6% growth rate) and so mild, Americans didn't even notice. >https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gross-domestic-product

    Yeah we didn't notice those soaring prices....eyeroll.

    Our governments statements are sounding more the old Soviet Union by
    the day.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Mon Dec 26 10:56:23 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:39 -0800, nickname unavailable wrote:
    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from >>>>>>>>>> | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>> | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool >>>>> demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the >>>>> US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third
    quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion.
    Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019,
    before the pandemic recession. "

    That's not a signal of impending recession.

    No it's not. It's a sign of consumer confidence rising which is a
    sign that NO recession is coming soon.

    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12
    months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to
    U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    Neither is that.

    And that rate, currently 7.1% was 8.7% during the summer so it looks
    like Biden and his Fed Chair are having more effect on inflation than
    anybody thought.

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated
    under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening
    consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are
    likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year."
    "

    Increasing consumer debt is *not* a sign of falling consumer confidence — >>exactly the opposite.

    A recession might happen, but nothing at present is pointing to one.

    CNN, like any news outlet, depends on sensationalism and shocking news >reports to keep 'em clicking.

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have
    plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending. A debt bubble is never a good thing.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to "because_\shitbag\_was_taken"@gmail on Mon Dec 26 10:54:44 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:39 -0800, nickname unavailable <"because_\\shitbag\\_was_taken"@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from
    | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in
    | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool
    demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have
    been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third
    quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion.
    Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019,
    before the pandemic recession. "

    That's not a signal of impending recession.


    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12
    months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to
    U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    Neither is that.

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated
    under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening
    consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are
    likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year."
    "

    Increasing consumer debt is *not* a sign of falling consumer confidence — >exactly the opposite.

    A recession might happen, but nothing at present is pointing to one.

    You aren't very bright are you?

    "Q: Are we headed for a recession? And if so, how severe might it be?
    Looking ahead, we foresee a confluence of factors pushing the economy
    into a moderate recession starting in mid-2023. Elevated inflation,
    rising interest rates, and the diminished level of excess savings will
    slow consumer spending. Corporate earnings growth will decline as
    profit margins compress further and top-line revenue growth slows as
    consumer spending cools. Corporations will then be forced to curtail
    hiring and pull back on capital expenditures. The eventual job losses
    will lead to a contraction in consumer spending, leading the economy
    into a recession in the second half of 2023. "

    https://news.nationwide.com/2023-economic-outlook-kathy-bostjancic/

    "Recessions often take everyone by surprise. There’s a very good
    chance the next one will not.

    Economists have been forecasting a recession for months now, and most
    see it starting early next year. Whether it’s deep or shallow, long or
    short, is up for debate, but the idea that the economy is going into a
    period of contraction is pretty much the consensus view among
    economists. "

    "“Despite the current resilience of the labor market – as revealed by
    the US CEI in November – and consumer confidence improving in
    December, the US LEI suggests the Federal Reserve’s monetary
    tightening cycle is curtailing aspects of economic activity,
    especially housing,” he said. “As a result, we project a US recession
    is likely to start around the beginning of 2023 and last through
    mid-year.”"

    https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/articles/2022-12-22/economic-indicators-fall-sharply-in-november-signaling-a-2023-recession

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Dec 26 11:03:42 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:39 -0800, nickname unavailable wrote:
    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales
    |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from >>>>>>>>>>> | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>>> | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool >>>>>> demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have >>>>>> been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the >>>>>> US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third
    quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion. >>>> Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019,
    before the pandemic recession. "

    That's not a signal of impending recession.

    No it's not. It's a sign of consumer confidence rising which is a
    sign that NO recession is coming soon.

    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12
    months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to
    U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    Neither is that.

    And that rate, currently 7.1% was 8.7% during the summer so it looks
    like Biden and his Fed Chair are having more effect on inflation than
    anybody thought.

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated
    under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening
    consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are
    likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year." >>>> "

    Increasing consumer debt is *not* a sign of falling consumer confidence — >>> exactly the opposite.

    A recession might happen, but nothing at present is pointing to one.

    CNN, like any news outlet, depends on sensationalism and shocking news
    reports to keep 'em clicking.

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have
    plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    You don't know a thing about economics.

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Horseshit #000-001. Horseshit. Bullshit. Shit. @
    'I desire torrid wild-eyed bungholery.' /|\
    I'm saving up to buy a big zucchini to This post / \
    shove 30cm up my growler! insults basic decency.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to chick.balou@yahoo.com on Mon Dec 26 14:12:33 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have
    plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    How is this news? The first charge cards as we know them were
    introduced in 1946. By 1960 Diner's Club and American Express were
    issuing plastic "charge plates".

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic >future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    You don't know a thing about economics.

    That's because he's a nobody.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chunky.blues@yahoo.com on Tue Dec 27 07:04:45 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:40 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chunky.blues@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:43 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/25/2022 6:55 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:40:28 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>>>> | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a
    | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    Well that's a lie:

    No, it isn't.


    "Formula makers have stepped up marketing campaigns to grab a bigger >>>>>> piece of the lucrative, $5.6 billion formula market, after a severe >>>>>> shortage earlier this year shook consumer confidence, said Allen
    Sayler, an industry consultant.

    Doesn't refute the well-established claim that supply chains are back to normal.

    Supply chains are "normal" but we have shortages. That's a direct
    conflict in terms

    Most supply chains are normal. A constriction in one small industry is not >>> indicative of overall supply chain problems.


    The automative and baby formula industries are NOT small.

    The baby formula industry is small. The automotive parts industry is not >suffering supply chain problems.

    Two huge lies as I've already documented this twice. Liberals - show
    them the truth and they double down on their lies.




    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-baby-formula-shortage-leads-boom-advertisements-2022-12-22/

    After a year there is still a shortage

    A shortage U.S. dairy producers are trying to keep in place.

    "Big Dairy Wants Congress To Restore Huge Tariffs on Imported Baby Formula"

    "Unless Congress takes action, those tariffs will return on January 1. And the
    baby formula shortage hasn't yet passed. "

    https://reason.com/2022/12/19/big-dairy-wants-congress-to-restore-huge-tariffs-on-imported-baby-formula/

    Reasion .com? Do try something credible please.

    It has the highest credibility.

    Heh. Try again please.

    No need. Reason is an outstanding news source.


    Clearly not if I shot it down in less than two minutes.




    A baby formula shortage is not due to any supply chain problems. It's due to
    corrupt dairy corporations.

    Yeah that's it....

    Yep. Companies seeking higher tariffs in order to boost prices is corruption by
    definition.


    "LONDON, Dec 2 (Reuters) - The near year-long infant formula shortage
    in the United States that prompted the intervention of the White House
    is likely to "persist" until spring, according to Reckitt Benckiser,
    the maker of what is now the biggest brand in the market, Enfamil."

    Nothing about greedy companies and tarrifs.

    "Baby-formula tariffs are about to return, risking fresh shortages"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/12/15/baby-formula-tariffs-us-shortages/

    So much for right-wingnuts claiming to be pro-market. They aren't. They want >protection.

    "Risking further..." this means the shortage already exists. Thank
    you for conceding the point. Oh, and you cited an opinion piece.




    OH and you chopped off the citation that people can't get car parts
    because of supply disruptions.

    That's no longer the case.

    You don't wear denial very well.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chick.balou@yahoo.com on Tue Dec 27 07:06:40 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:39 -0800, nickname unavailable wrote:
    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales >>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from >>>>>>>>>>>> | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>>>> | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool >>>>>>> demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have >>>>>>> been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the >>>>>>> US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third
    quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion. >>>>> Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019,
    before the pandemic recession. "

    That's not a signal of impending recession.

    No it's not. It's a sign of consumer confidence rising which is a
    sign that NO recession is coming soon.

    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12
    months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to >>>>> U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    Neither is that.

    And that rate, currently 7.1% was 8.7% during the summer so it looks
    like Biden and his Fed Chair are having more effect on inflation than
    anybody thought.

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated >>>>> under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening
    consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are >>>>> likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year." >>>>> "

    Increasing consumer debt is *not* a sign of falling consumer confidence — >>>> exactly the opposite.

    A recession might happen, but nothing at present is pointing to one.

    CNN, like any news outlet, depends on sensationalism and shocking news
    reports to keep 'em clicking.

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have
    plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic >future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    The increasing debut shows that people DON"T HAVE the money. This
    means there is a bill coming due...duh.


    You don't know a thing about economics.

    So why did you snip all the citations from the economists that showed
    you're full of crap about economics?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Tue Dec 27 07:08:23 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 14:12:33 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have
    plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    How is this news? The first charge cards as we know them were
    introduced in 1946. By 1960 Diner's Club and American Express were
    issuing plastic "charge plates".

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic >>future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    You don't know a thing about economics.

    That's because he's a nobody.

    Swill

    Well this nobody can back his claims, which you ignored. BTW, that's
    why looking up citations has little value - you just snip them or
    ignore them.


    ""Q: Are we headed for a recession? And if so, how severe might it be?
    Looking ahead, we foresee a confluence of factors pushing the economy
    into a moderate recession starting in mid-2023. Elevated inflation,
    rising interest rates, and the diminished level of excess savings will
    slow consumer spending. Corporate earnings growth will decline as
    profit margins compress further and top-line revenue growth slows as
    consumer spending cools. Corporations will then be forced to curtail
    hiring and pull back on capital expenditures. The eventual job losses
    will lead to a contraction in consumer spending, leading the economy
    into a recession in the second half of 2023. "

    https://news.nationwide.com/2023-economic-outlook-kathy-bostjancic/

    "Recessions often take everyone by surprise. There’s a very good
    chance the next one will not.

    Economists have been forecasting a recession for months now, and most
    see it starting early next year. Whether it’s deep or shallow, long or
    short, is up for debate, but the idea that the economy is going into a
    period of contraction is pretty much the consensus view among
    economists. "

    "“Despite the current resilience of the labor market – as revealed by
    the US CEI in November – and consumer confidence improving in
    December, the US LEI suggests the Federal Reserve’s monetary
    tightening cycle is curtailing aspects of economic activity,
    especially housing,” he said. “As a result, we project a US recession
    is likely to start around the beginning of 2023 and last through
    mid-year.”"

    https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/articles/2022-12-22/economic-indicators-fall-sharply-in-november-signaling-a-2023-recession

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  • From Michael P Boggs@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Dec 27 09:07:03 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/27/2022 4:08 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 14:12:33 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have
    plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    How is this news? The first charge cards as we know them were
    introduced in 1946. By 1960 Diner's Club and American Express were
    issuing plastic "charge plates".

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic
    future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    You don't know a thing about economics.

    That's because he's a nobody.

    Swill

    Well this nobody can back his claims,

    No, you can't. You're a hyper-partisan liar who never backs her claims.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Dec 27 09:07:00 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/27/2022 4:06 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:39 -0800, nickname unavailable wrote:
    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales >>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from >>>>>>>>>>>>> | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>>>>> | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors >>>>>>>>>>> are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool >>>>>>>> demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have >>>>>>>> been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third >>>>>> quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion. >>>>>> Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019,
    before the pandemic recession. "

    That's not a signal of impending recession.

    No it's not. It's a sign of consumer confidence rising which is a
    sign that NO recession is coming soon.

    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12 >>>>>> months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to >>>>>> U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    Neither is that.

    And that rate, currently 7.1% was 8.7% during the summer so it looks
    like Biden and his Fed Chair are having more effect on inflation than
    anybody thought.

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated >>>>>> under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening
    consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are >>>>>> likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year." >>>>>> "

    Increasing consumer debt is *not* a sign of falling consumer confidence —
    exactly the opposite.

    A recession might happen, but nothing at present is pointing to one.

    CNN, like any news outlet, depends on sensationalism and shocking news >>>> reports to keep 'em clicking.

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have
    plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic >> future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    The increasing debut [sic] shows that people DON"T HAVE the money.

    "Debut"?

    Bullshit. The increasing debt shows that people have *confidence* in the future.



    You don't know a thing about economics.

    So why did you snip all the citations from the economists that showed
    you're full of crap about economics?

    You didn't post any "citations" from economists. *You* don't know anything about economics. You never studied it for even five minutes.

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Horseshit #000-001. Horseshit. Bullshit. Shit. @
    'I desire torrid wild-eyed bungholery.' /|\
    I'm saving up to buy a big zucchini to This post / \
    shove 30cm up my growler! insults basic decency.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chunky.blues@yahoo.com on Wed Dec 28 07:12:15 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 09:07:35 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chunky.blues@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/27/2022 4:04 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:40 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chunky.blues@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:43 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/25/2022 6:55 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:40:28 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales

    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>>>>>> | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a >>>>>>>>>> | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    Well that's a lie:

    No, it isn't.


    "Formula makers have stepped up marketing campaigns to grab a bigger >>>>>>>> piece of the lucrative, $5.6 billion formula market, after a severe >>>>>>>> shortage earlier this year shook consumer confidence, said Allen >>>>>>>> Sayler, an industry consultant.

    Doesn't refute the well-established claim that supply chains are back to normal.

    Supply chains are "normal" but we have shortages. That's a direct >>>>>> conflict in terms

    Most supply chains are normal. A constriction in one small industry is not
    indicative of overall supply chain problems.


    The automative and baby formula industries are NOT small.

    The baby formula industry is small. The automotive parts industry is not >>> suffering supply chain problems.

    Two huge lies as I've already documented this twice.

    Nope — you just lied.

    Look at you, living in your private reality again.





    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-baby-formula-shortage-leads-boom-advertisements-2022-12-22/

    After a year there is still a shortage

    A shortage U.S. dairy producers are trying to keep in place.

    "Big Dairy Wants Congress To Restore Huge Tariffs on Imported Baby Formula"

    "Unless Congress takes action, those tariffs will return on January 1. And the
    baby formula shortage hasn't yet passed. "

    https://reason.com/2022/12/19/big-dairy-wants-congress-to-restore-huge-tariffs-on-imported-baby-formula/

    Reasion .com? Do try something credible please.

    It has the highest credibility.

    Heh. Try again please.

    No need. Reason is an outstanding news source.


    Clearly not if I shot it down in less than two minutes.

    You didn't shoot anything down. You couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

    Reason is an excellent source.

    Stomp your childish feet. Your denial of the provided citations shows
    you're not worth the bytes your posts take up.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chick.balou@yahoo.com on Wed Dec 28 07:08:56 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 09:07:00 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/27/2022 4:06 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:39 -0800, nickname unavailable wrote:
    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales >>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>>>>>> | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool >>>>>>>>> demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have >>>>>>>>> been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the >>>>>>>>> US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third >>>>>>> quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion. >>>>>>> Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019, >>>>>>> before the pandemic recession. "

    That's not a signal of impending recession.

    No it's not. It's a sign of consumer confidence rising which is a
    sign that NO recession is coming soon.

    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12 >>>>>>> months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to >>>>>>> U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    Neither is that.

    And that rate, currently 7.1% was 8.7% during the summer so it looks >>>>> like Biden and his Fed Chair are having more effect on inflation than >>>>> anybody thought.

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated >>>>>>> under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening
    consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are >>>>>>> likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year." >>>>>>> "

    Increasing consumer debt is *not* a sign of falling consumer confidence —
    exactly the opposite.

    A recession might happen, but nothing at present is pointing to one. >>>>>
    CNN, like any news outlet, depends on sensationalism and shocking news >>>>> reports to keep 'em clicking.

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have
    plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic
    future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    The increasing debut [sic] shows that people DON"T HAVE the money.

    "Debut"?


    Oh look a spelling flame. How original.

    Bullshit. The increasing debt shows that people have *confidence* in the future.

    No it shows that people are stupid...duh.




    You don't know a thing about economics.

    So why did you snip all the citations from the economists that showed
    you're full of crap about economics?

    You didn't post any "citations" from economists. *You* don't know anything >about economics. You never studied it for even five minutes.

    Your inabilitly to refute any of the provided citations shows how weak
    your argument is. Like the average lib, you live in a private reality
    where you define it. My advice: grow up, learn how to form and
    express an argument, document it and THEN come back to the forum.
    Right now you're just looking foolish.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Dec 28 14:54:43 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    governor.swill@gmail.com wrote in news:65loqhhpg983ggahgcaqukehv2egis3h6a@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 07:08:23 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 14:12:33 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com
    wrote:

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they
    have plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    How is this news? The first charge cards as we know them were
    introduced in 1946. By 1960 Diner's Club and American Express were >>>issuing plastic "charge plates".

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the >>>>economic future. People who think they might be out of work in
    three months don't borrow heavily today.

    You don't know a thing about economics.

    That's because he's a nobody.

    Swill

    Well this nobody can back his claims, which you ignored.

    Can't ignore what never existed.

    BTW, that's
    why looking up citations has little value - you just snip them or
    ignore them.

    You never posted them.

    ""Q: Are we headed for a recession? And if so, how severe might it be? >>Looking ahead, we foresee a confluence of factors pushing the economy
    into a moderate recession starting in mid-2023. Elevated inflation,
    rising interest rates, and the diminished level of excess savings will
    slow consumer spending. Corporate earnings growth will decline as
    profit margins compress further and top-line revenue growth slows as >>consumer spending cools. Corporations will then be forced to curtail >>hiring and pull back on capital expenditures. The eventual job losses
    will lead to a contraction in consumer spending, leading the economy
    into a recession in the second half of 2023. "

    https://news.nationwide.com/2023-economic-outlook-kathy-bostjancic/

    This doesn't support what you said. You said, "The increasing
    consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money they are
    spending." Your above cite does not address consumer debt.

    "Recessions often take everyone by surprise. There’s a very good
    chance the next one will not.

    Economists have been forecasting a recession for months now, and most
    see it starting early next year. Whether it’s deep or shallow, long or >>short, is up for debate, but the idea that the economy is going into a >>period of contraction is pretty much the consensus view among
    economists. "

    "“Despite the current resilience of the labor market – as revealed by
    the US CEI in November – and consumer confidence improving in
    December, the US LEI suggests the Federal Reserve’s monetary
    tightening cycle is curtailing aspects of economic activity,
    especially housing,” he said. “As a result, we project a US recession
    is likely to start around the beginning of 2023 and last through >>mid-year.”"

    https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/articles/2022-12-22/economic-indica >>tors-fall-sharply-in-november-signaling-a-2023-recession

    If I had a dollar for every time a political partisan left or right
    predicted an imminent recession, I'd have a lot of fucking dollars.

    Let us know if, when, this recession happens, whether or not it was as
    big as Hoover's (1929), Reagan's (1982), Bush's (1991) or Dubya's
    (2008). Remember, two of those involved financial system collapse due
    to Republican authored policies.



    Or as Nobody's hero said:



    "I've been around for a long time and it just
    seems that the economy does better under the
    Democrats than the Republicans."
    Donald Trump, 2004

    https://tinyurl.com/y3pq645x

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn3cTT6O1I4

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Dec 28 09:46:12 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 07:08:23 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 14:12:33 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have
    plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    How is this news? The first charge cards as we know them were
    introduced in 1946. By 1960 Diner's Club and American Express were
    issuing plastic "charge plates".

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic >>>future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    You don't know a thing about economics.

    That's because he's a nobody.

    Swill

    Well this nobody can back his claims, which you ignored.

    Can't ignore what never existed.

    BTW, that's
    why looking up citations has little value - you just snip them or
    ignore them.

    You never posted them.

    ""Q: Are we headed for a recession? And if so, how severe might it be? >Looking ahead, we foresee a confluence of factors pushing the economy
    into a moderate recession starting in mid-2023. Elevated inflation,
    rising interest rates, and the diminished level of excess savings will
    slow consumer spending. Corporate earnings growth will decline as
    profit margins compress further and top-line revenue growth slows as
    consumer spending cools. Corporations will then be forced to curtail
    hiring and pull back on capital expenditures. The eventual job losses
    will lead to a contraction in consumer spending, leading the economy
    into a recession in the second half of 2023. "

    https://news.nationwide.com/2023-economic-outlook-kathy-bostjancic/

    This doesn't support what you said. You said, "The increasing
    consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money they are
    spending." Your above cite does not address consumer debt.

    "Recessions often take everyone by surprise. There’s a very good
    chance the next one will not.

    Economists have been forecasting a recession for months now, and most
    see it starting early next year. Whether it’s deep or shallow, long or
    short, is up for debate, but the idea that the economy is going into a
    period of contraction is pretty much the consensus view among
    economists. "

    "“Despite the current resilience of the labor market – as revealed by
    the US CEI in November – and consumer confidence improving in
    December, the US LEI suggests the Federal Reserve’s monetary
    tightening cycle is curtailing aspects of economic activity,
    especially housing,” he said. “As a result, we project a US recession
    is likely to start around the beginning of 2023 and last through
    mid-year.”"

    https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/articles/2022-12-22/economic-indicators-fall-sharply-in-november-signaling-a-2023-recession

    If I had a dollar for every time a political partisan left or right
    predicted an imminent recession, I'd have a lot of fucking dollars.

    Let us know if, when, this recession happens, whether or not it was as
    big as Hoover's (1929), Reagan's (1982), Bush's (1991) or Dubya's
    (2008). Remember, two of those involved financial system collapse due
    to Republican authored policies.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Dec 28 09:47:53 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 07:08:56 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 09:07:00 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/27/2022 4:06 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:39 -0800, nickname unavailable wrote:
    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool >>>>>>>>>> demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have >>>>>>>>>> been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third >>>>>>>> quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion. >>>>>>>> Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019, >>>>>>>> before the pandemic recession. "

    That's not a signal of impending recession.

    No it's not. It's a sign of consumer confidence rising which is a >>>>>> sign that NO recession is coming soon.

    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12 >>>>>>>> months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to >>>>>>>> U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    Neither is that.

    And that rate, currently 7.1% was 8.7% during the summer so it looks >>>>>> like Biden and his Fed Chair are having more effect on inflation than >>>>>> anybody thought.

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated >>>>>>>> under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening >>>>>>>> consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are >>>>>>>> likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year." >>>>>>>> "

    Increasing consumer debt is *not* a sign of falling consumer confidence —
    exactly the opposite.

    A recession might happen, but nothing at present is pointing to one. >>>>>>
    CNN, like any news outlet, depends on sensationalism and shocking news >>>>>> reports to keep 'em clicking.

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have >>>>>> plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic
    future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    The increasing debut [sic] shows that people DON"T HAVE the money.

    "Debut"?


    Oh look a spelling flame. How original.

    Bullshit. The increasing debt shows that people have *confidence* in the future.

    No it shows that people are stupid...duh.




    You don't know a thing about economics.

    So why did you snip all the citations from the economists that showed
    you're full of crap about economics?

    You didn't post any "citations" from economists. *You* don't know anything >>about economics. You never studied it for even five minutes.

    Your inabilitly to refute any of the provided citations

    You haven't provided any citations. But when you do, we can all
    safely assume they'll be irrelevant to your claims.

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

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  • From Paul Oswald@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Dec 28 07:36:03 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/28/2022 4:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 09:07:35 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chunky.blues@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/27/2022 4:04 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:40 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chunky.blues@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:43 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yah�o.com> wrote:

    On 12/25/2022 6:55 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:40:28 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chink.blow@yahöo.com> wrote:

    On 12/24/2022 10:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:46:31 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales >>>>>>>>>>
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the third quarter

    | The Senate voted on Thursday to pass a $1.7 trillion
    | government funding bill, sending it to the House to avoid a >>>>>>>>>>> | holiday shutdown.

    |
    | Supply Chains Upended by Covid Are Back to Normal
    |
    | Improved shipping rates, delivery capacity and retailer
    | inventory have soothed the woes
    | ...
    <https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/23/supply-chains-upended-by-covid-are-back-to-normal/>

    --bks

    Well that's a lie:

    No, it isn't.


    "Formula makers have stepped up marketing campaigns to grab a bigger >>>>>>>>> piece of the lucrative, $5.6 billion formula market, after a severe >>>>>>>>> shortage earlier this year shook consumer confidence, said Allen >>>>>>>>> Sayler, an industry consultant.

    Doesn't refute the well-established claim that supply chains are back to normal.

    Supply chains are "normal" but we have shortages. That's a direct >>>>>>> conflict in terms

    Most supply chains are normal. A constriction in one small industry is not
    indicative of overall supply chain problems.


    The automative and baby formula industries are NOT small.

    The baby formula industry is small. The automotive parts industry is not >>>> suffering supply chain problems.

    Two huge lies as I've already documented this twice.

    Nope — you just lied.

    Look at you, living in your private reality again.





    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-baby-formula-shortage-leads-boom-advertisements-2022-12-22/

    After a year there is still a shortage

    A shortage U.S. dairy producers are trying to keep in place.

    "Big Dairy Wants Congress To Restore Huge Tariffs on Imported Baby Formula"

    "Unless Congress takes action, those tariffs will return on January 1. And the
    baby formula shortage hasn't yet passed. "

    https://reason.com/2022/12/19/big-dairy-wants-congress-to-restore-huge-tariffs-on-imported-baby-formula/

    Reasion .com? Do try something credible please.

    It has the highest credibility.

    Heh. Try again please.

    No need. Reason is an outstanding news source.


    Clearly not if I shot it down in less than two minutes.

    You didn't shoot anything down. You couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. >>
    Reason is an excellent source.

    Stomp your childish feet.

    That's you: "oh looky"

    You are the most infantile poster here.

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  • From Robert Solow@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Dec 28 07:36:01 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/28/2022 4:08 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 09:07:00 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/27/2022 4:06 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:03:39 -0800, nickname unavailable wrote:
    On 12/25/2022 6:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:35:03 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/24/2022 10:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:20:49 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:
    On 12/23/2022 4:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:05:00 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:43:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. Scores $4 Billion Windfall on Oil-Reserve Sales >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
    | Washington emerges as unlikely winner after releases from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    |
    | The US economy grew much faster than previously thought in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the third quarter
    | ...
    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/economy/gdp-third-quarter-final/index.html>

    --bks

    Well, I guess that means no recession. I'm sure Biden's detractors
    are disappointed.

    Swill

    I guess you didn't actually *read* the article.

    He read it. It points to no recession.

    Sigh...another Democrat dummy. From the article:

    "The Fed has been raising interest rates throughout the year to cool >>>>>>>>>> demand for goods and services and reduce inflation. Economists have >>>>>>>>>> been worried for quite some time that the Fed’s actions could tip the
    US economy into recession next year. "

    No signs of that happening.

    Only to those who refuse to look:

    " The Report shows an increase in total household debt in the third >>>>>>>> quarter of 2022, increasing by $351 billion (2.2%) to $16.51 trillion. >>>>>>>> Balances now stand $2.36 trillion higher than at the end of 2019, >>>>>>>> before the pandemic recession. "

    That's not a signal of impending recession.

    No it's not. It's a sign of consumer confidence rising which is a >>>>>> sign that NO recession is coming soon.

    "The annual inflation rate for the United States is 7.1% for the 12 >>>>>>>> months ended November 2022 after rising 7.7% previously, according to >>>>>>>> U.S. Labor Department data published Dec. 13. "

    Neither is that.

    And that rate, currently 7.1% was 8.7% during the summer so it looks >>>>>> like Biden and his Fed Chair are having more effect on inflation than >>>>>> anybody thought.

    "The economic outlook for the United States for 2023 has deteriorated >>>>>>>> under the weight of high inflation rates and rapid monetary
    tightening. Falling consumer and business confidence, softening >>>>>>>> consumption and investment, and geopolitics-induced energy shocks are >>>>>>>> likely to tip the economy into recession around the turn of the year." >>>>>>>> "

    Increasing consumer debt is *not* a sign of falling consumer confidence —
    exactly the opposite.

    A recession might happen, but nothing at present is pointing to one. >>>>>>
    CNN, like any news outlet, depends on sensationalism and shocking news >>>>>> reports to keep 'em clicking.

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have >>>>>> plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic
    future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    The increasing debut [sic] shows that people DON"T HAVE the money.

    "Debut"?


    Oh look

    "Oh look" is not an adult response. It's a little child's petulant response.


    Bullshit. The increasing debt shows that people have *confidence* in the future.

    No it shows that people are stupid

    No, it shows that people have confidence about the future.




    You don't know a thing about economics.

    So why did you snip all the citations from the economists that showed
    you're full of crap about economics?

    You didn't post any "citations" from economists. *You* don't know anything >> about economics. You never studied it for even five minutes.

    Your inabilitly to refute any of the provided citations

    Your inability to establish that *you* know anything about economics shows you are not to be taken seriously.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to paulie.the.giant@oswald-inc.com on Wed Dec 28 18:04:53 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 07:36:03 -0800, Paul Oswald <paulie.the.giant@oswald-inc.com> wrote:

    On 12/28/2022 4:12 AM, NoBody wrote:

    Stomp your childish feet.

    That's you: "oh looky"

    You are the most infantile poster here.

    Have you not met Rudy?

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Thu Dec 29 07:18:22 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 09:46:12 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 07:08:23 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 14:12:33 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:03:42 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chick.balou@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 12/26/2022 7:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 04:26:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Facts are, consumer confidence is up and inflation proves they have >>>>>> plenty of money to spend and they're spending it.

    The increasing consumer debt shows that they DO NOT have the money
    they are spending.

    How is this news? The first charge cards as we know them were
    introduced in 1946. By 1960 Diner's Club and American Express were >>>issuing plastic "charge plates".

    The increasing consumer debt shows they have high confidence in the economic
    future. People who think they might be out of work in three months don't borrow
    heavily today.

    You don't know a thing about economics.

    That's because he's a nobody.

    Swill

    Well this nobody can back his claims, which you ignored.

    Can't ignore what never existed.

    BTW, that's
    why looking up citations has little value - you just snip them or
    ignore them.

    You never posted them.

    A lie pure and simple. At least I know who I am dealing with.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Thu Dec 29 07:16:28 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:04:53 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 07:36:03 -0800, Paul Oswald ><paulie.the.giant@oswald-inc.com> wrote:

    On 12/28/2022 4:12 AM, NoBody wrote:

    Stomp your childish feet.

    That's you: "oh looky"

    You are the most infantile poster here.

    Have you not met Rudy?

    Swill

    He *is* Rudely.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Dec 29 09:46:49 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 07:16:28 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:04:53 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 07:36:03 -0800, Paul Oswald >><paulie.the.giant@oswald-inc.com> wrote:

    On 12/28/2022 4:12 AM, NoBody wrote:

    Stomp your childish feet.

    That's you: "oh looky"

    You are the most infantile poster here.

    Have you not met Rudy?

    Swill

    He *is* Rudely.

    Well, DUH . . .

    Swill
    --
    "Instead of building a wall or sending CBP agents to the border, why doesn’t the @gop send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass Shootings
    it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown, posted by -hh

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 6 14:01:46 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | U.S. job growth solid in December; unemployment rate falls
    | to 3.5%
    | ...
    <https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wrapup-2-u-job-growth-134059706.html>

    |
    | Detroit's unemployment rate has fallen to 6.4%, a 22-year
    | low, according to November figures from the U.S. Bureau of
    | Labor Statistics released last week.
    | ... <https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2023/01/05/detroits-unemployment-rate-drops-below-7-for-first-time-since-2000/69780802007/>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Jan 7 10:05:19 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 14:01:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | U.S. job growth solid in December; unemployment rate falls
    | to 3.5%
    | ...
    <https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wrapup-2-u-job-growth-134059706.html>


    Why did you leave this part of the article out?:

    "Recent declines in household employment had fanned speculation that
    nonfarm payrolls, the main measure of employment gains, were
    overstating job growth."

    There are lies and there are statistics and Bradley.

    |
    | Detroit's unemployment rate has fallen to 6.4%, a 22-year
    | low, according to November figures from the U.S. Bureau of
    | Labor Statistics released last week.
    | ...
    <https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2023/01/05/detroits-unemployment-rate-drops-below-7-for-first-time-since-2000/69780802007/>

    --bks

    How is Detroits unumeployment rate beging twice the nations a
    "success"?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Jan 8 09:45:24 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 10:05:19 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 14:01:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | U.S. job growth solid in December; unemployment rate falls
    | to 3.5%
    | ... >><https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wrapup-2-u-job-growth-134059706.html>


    Why did you leave this part of the article out?:

    "Recent declines in household employment had fanned speculation that
    nonfarm payrolls, the main measure of employment gains, were
    overstating job growth."

    There are lies and there are statistics and Bradley.

    |
    | Detroit's unemployment rate has fallen to 6.4%, a 22-year
    | low, according to November figures from the U.S. Bureau of
    | Labor Statistics released last week.
    | ... >><https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2023/01/05/detroits-unemployment-rate-drops-below-7-for-first-time-since-2000/69780802007/>

    --bks

    How is Detroits unumeployment rate beging twice the nations a
    "success"?

    And Bradley has run away again.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 13 16:00:03 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Inflation closed out 2022 in a modest retreat, with
    | consumer prices in December posting their biggest monthly
    | decline since early in the pandemic, the Labor Department
    | reported Thursday.
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/12/consumer-prices-fell-0point1percent-in-december-in-line-with-economists-expectations.html>

    --bks

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Jan 13 14:51:53 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 13 Jan 2023 16:00:03 -0000, (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
    | Inflation closed out 2022 in a modest retreat, with
    | consumer prices in December posting their biggest monthly
    | decline since early in the pandemic, the Labor Department
    | reported Thursday.
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/12/consumer-prices-fell-0point1percent-in-december-in-line-with-economists-expectations.html>

    A few weeks ago I put a bag of Frito Scoops back on the shelf because
    it was priced $5.69. Last week that same size bag was priced $5.19
    but I still didn't buy it because two years ago it was just over $4.
    Meanwhile, Frito Lay's jalapeno cheddar dip has only gone up twenty or
    thirty cents so I bought that and a generic brand of tortilla chips
    that was half again as large as the Scoops for $2.89.

    THAT is how you fight inflation as a consumer instead of depending on government to do it for you. Just don't buy goods at inflated prices.
    They'll come back down. That's what happened to gasoline last year.
    Demand collapsed in the summer when it's normally going up and fuel
    dropped a dollar a gallon by Thanksgiving (around here anyway).

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 08:40:18 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 13 Jan 2023 16:00:03 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
    wrote:

    |
    | Inflation closed out 2022 in a modest retreat, with
    | consumer prices in December posting their biggest monthly
    | decline since early in the pandemic, the Labor Department
    | reported Thursday.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/12/consumer-prices-fell-0point1percent-in-december-in-line-with-economists-expectations.html>

    --bks

    Lying commie ass. From your own citation:
    "Even with the decline, headline CPI rose 6.5% from a year ago,
    highlighting the persistent burden that the rising cost of living has
    placed on U.S. households."

    That number in itself is a lie but that's not a "retreat". Americans
    lost ground last year due that inflation rate.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 19 15:11:05 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | The number of Americans filing new claims for unemployment
    | benefits unexpectedly fell last week, suggesting the labor
    | market remains tight despite higher interest rates.
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/19/us-weekly-jobless-claims-unexpectedly-fall.html>

    --bks

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Jan 19 19:05:57 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 15:11:05 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | The number of Americans filing new claims for unemployment
    | benefits unexpectedly fell last week, suggesting the labor
    | market remains tight despite higher interest rates.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/19/us-weekly-jobless-claims-unexpectedly-fall.html>

    --bks

    Damned Democrats! How dare they competently manage the economy!

    Swill
    --
    David Letterman interviews Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liooTXAF5Xo (44min English subtitles)

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 3 13:55:32 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | The employment picture started off 2023 on a stunningly
    | strong note, with nonfarm payrolls posting their strongest
    | gain since July 2022.
    |
    | Nonfarm payrolls increased by 517,000 for January, above
    | the Dow Jones estimate of 187,000. The unemployment rate
    | fell to 3.4% vs. the estimate for 3.6%. That is the lowest
    | jobless level since May 1969.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/03/jobs-report-january-2023-.html>

    --bks

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Feb 3 09:22:05 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 13:55:32 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | The employment picture started off 2023 on a stunningly
    | strong note, with nonfarm payrolls posting their strongest
    | gain since July 2022.
    |
    | Nonfarm payrolls increased by 517,000 for January, above
    | the Dow Jones estimate of 187,000. The unemployment rate
    | fell to 3.4% vs. the estimate for 3.6%. That is the lowest
    | jobless level since May 1969.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/03/jobs-report-january-2023-.html>

    --bks

    Damn! Damn! DAMN! The Republicans in here are going to be SOOOOO
    pissed off!

    Lol!

    Swill
    --
    Reality is an acquired taste - Matthew Perry

    Glory to the heroes! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 7 13:48:25 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | ...
    | Hotels, airlines and medical clinics all are hiring like
    | mad. The Las Vegas Sands, a casino and resort company,
    | lists 50 job openings on its website, including for
    | cybersecurity specialists, attorneys and a corporate
    | receptionist. HCA Healthcare, which operates medical
    | facilities in 21 states and the United Kingdom, is hiring
    | doctors in Texas, nurses in Kansas and lab assistants in
    | Colorado.
    |
    | Goods prices, a major contributor to inflation last year,
    | have started to come down. Other major spending categories
    | are expected to soon follow. Advertised apartment rents,
    | for example, are cooling off. But it takes time for those
    | changes to be reflected in official government data.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/02/06/biden-economy-inflation-jobs/>

    | ...
    | Between last August, when President Joe Biden's landmark
    | climate bill became law, and the end of January, companies
    | have announced more than 100,000 clean energy jobs in the
    | US, according to an analysis released Monday by the
    | nonprofit advocacy group Climate Power.
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-06/companies-adding-100-000-green-jobs-under-new-us-climate-law>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Feb 7 14:11:07 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:trtkr9$ohr$2@reader2.panix.com:

    | ...
    | Hotels, airlines and medical clinics all are hiring like
    | mad. The Las Vegas Sands, a casino and resort company,
    | lists 50 job openings on its website, including for
    | cybersecurity specialists, attorneys and a corporate
    | receptionist. HCA Healthcare, which operates medical
    | facilities in 21 states and the United Kingdom, is hiring
    | doctors in Texas, nurses in Kansas and lab assistants in
    | Colorado.
    |
    | Goods prices, a major contributor to inflation last year,
    | have started to come down. Other major spending categories
    | are expected to soon follow. Advertised apartment rents,
    | for example, are cooling off. But it takes time for those
    | changes to be reflected in official government data.
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/02/06/biden-economy-infla tion-jobs/>

    | ...
    | Between last August, when President Joe Biden's landmark
    | climate bill became law, and the end of January, companies
    | have announced more than 100,000 clean energy jobs in the
    | US, according to an analysis released Monday by the
    | nonprofit advocacy group Climate Power.
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-06/companies-adding-10 0-000-green-jobs-under-new-us-climate-law>

    --bks




    Jobs Trump wasn't able to ship to China.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 13:52:51 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | WHY THE WHITE HOUSE IS CELEBRATING -- President JOE BIDEN
    | had a few goals last night:
    |
    | 1. Remind his audience of his accomplishments over the last
    | two years;
    |
    | 2. Reiterate his positions in the spending debate (no
    | negotiations over the debt ceiling and no touching Social
    | Security and Medicare);
    |
    | 3. Detail the most popular highlights of his 2023 agenda;
    | and
    |
    | 4. Expose his congressional GOP opposition as unreasonable
    | and chaotic.
    |
    | The speech accomplished the first three goals if you
    | listened or read it carefully. But it will be best
    | remembered for the dramatic clashes with jeering members of
    | the GOP which may have done more than Biden ever could have
    | hoped to accomplish goal No. 4.
    | ... <https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2023/02/08/bidens-no-compromise-sotu-00081779>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 14:15:07 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | WHY THE WHITE HOUSE IS CELEBRATING -- President JOE BIDEN
    | had a few goals last night:

    |
    | Deal with It: Biden's State of the Union Was an Aesthetic
    | Win
    | ... <https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/deal-with-it-bidens-state-of-the-union-was-an-aesthetic-win/>

    |
    | 72 percent of viewers had positive reaction to Biden speech
    | ... <https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3849076-72-percent-of-viewers-had-positive-reaction-to-biden-speech-cnn-flash-poll/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 15:50:48 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | WHY THE WHITE HOUSE IS CELEBRATING -- President JOE BIDEN
    | had a few goals last night:

    | Deal with It: Biden's State of the Union Was an Aesthetic
    | Win
    | ...
    <https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/deal-with-it-bidens-state-of-the-union-was-an-aesthetic-win/>

    |
    | Dark Brandon shows up at State of the Union, mops the floor
    | with lost Republicans
    |
    | Biden went off script regularly, parrying GOP lawmakers who
    | heckled him, at one point backing the party into a corner
    | and getting them to swear to protect Medicare and Social
    | Security benefits.
    | ... <https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/02/08/state-union-biden-deflects-republican-heckling-sarah-huckabee-sanders/11202538002/>

    |
    | How Biden Successfully Baited Congressional Republicans
    |
    | The old man has learned some new tricks.
    | ... <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/state-union-joe-biden-congress-republicans/672984/>

    --bks

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Feb 8 15:27:37 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 15:50:48 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | WHY THE WHITE HOUSE IS CELEBRATING -- President JOE BIDEN
    | had a few goals last night:

    | Deal with It: Biden's State of the Union Was an Aesthetic
    | Win
    | ... >><https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/deal-with-it-bidens-state-of-the-union-was-an-aesthetic-win/>

    |
    | Dark Brandon shows up at State of the Union, mops the floor
    | with lost Republicans
    |
    | Biden went off script regularly, parrying GOP lawmakers who
    | heckled him, at one point backing the party into a corner
    | and getting them to swear to protect Medicare and Social
    | Security benefits.
    | ...
    <https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/02/08/state-union-biden-deflects-republican-heckling-sarah-huckabee-sanders/11202538002/>

    Actually, the Republicans have been protecting Medicare and Social
    Security benefits.

    | How Biden Successfully Baited Congressional Republicans
    |
    | The old man has learned some new tricks.
    | ...
    <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/state-union-joe-biden-congress-republicans/672984/>

    --bks

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Feb 8 15:49:18 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 14:15:07 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | WHY THE WHITE HOUSE IS CELEBRATING -- President JOE BIDEN
    | had a few goals last night:

    |
    | Deal with It: Biden's State of the Union Was an Aesthetic
    | Win
    | ...
    <https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/deal-with-it-bidens-state-of-the-union-was-an-aesthetic-win/>

    This of course brings me to my other reaction to the address, which
    was — and I wish to God this were not the case — “why won’t the
    backbench Republicans just shut up and let this moron finish his
    speech?”

    "Joe Wilson was a memorable one-man scandal back in 2009. Now, the
    House GOP caucus has a full platoon willing to randomly fire their
    pistols in the air during the middle of a joint session of Congress by
    the president. Many surely consider this to be an evolutionary
    improvement. The 2022 midterm results suggest that the American
    electorate writ large does not."

    Wilson is, of course, living in an America that exists only in his
    mind or a paralelle universe. His response to Biden't SOTU is
    laughable.

    "Economic success stems from limited government and expanded freedom.
    For years, President Obama’s agenda destroyed jobs and took money out
    of hard earned paychecks. With President Donald Trump and strong
    conservative support in the House and Senate, we have been given a new opportunity to promote positive conservative change."

    Really? Obama took over in the midst of the worst economic downturn
    in most of a century when unemployment was headed for 10%. One of his achievments, not popular with all Democrats, was to extend the Bush
    tax cuts.

    By the time left office, the economy was back in growth mode and
    unemployment was under 4%.

    Wilson thinks we'd be better off with Trump in office? Has he
    completely lost his mind?

    |
    | 72 percent of viewers had positive reaction to Biden speech
    | ...
    <https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3849076-72-percent-of-viewers-had-positive-reaction-to-biden-speech-cnn-flash-poll/>

    --bks

    'nuff said.

    Swill
    NP: Cake - "Short Skirt, Long Jacket"
    --
    Bill Mahr on George Santos: "Everyone saw in George Santos what
    they wanted to see - Republicans saw a Trump loving rich prick, Democrats
    saw a a proudly gay person of color, and the Proud Boys saw him as a guy
    who would blow them after a couple of beers and not tell anyone."

    Glory to the heroes! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Feb 8 15:57:41 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 15:50:48 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | WHY THE WHITE HOUSE IS CELEBRATING -- President JOE BIDEN
    | had a few goals last night:

    | Deal with It: Biden's State of the Union Was an Aesthetic
    | Win
    | ... >><https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/deal-with-it-bidens-state-of-the-union-was-an-aesthetic-win/>

    |
    | Dark Brandon shows up at State of the Union, mops the floor
    | with lost Republicans
    |
    | Biden went off script regularly, parrying GOP lawmakers who
    | heckled him, at one point backing the party into a corner
    | and getting them to swear to protect Medicare and Social
    | Security benefits.
    | ...
    <https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/02/08/state-union-biden-deflects-republican-heckling-sarah-huckabee-sanders/11202538002/>

    "I’ve never seen anything like it in a State of the Union speech –
    they ran at him like a pack of lemmings and, with a wink and a grin,
    he politely directed them to the cliff."

    |
    | How Biden Successfully Baited Congressional Republicans
    |
    | The old man has learned some new tricks.
    | ...
    <https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/state-union-joe-biden-congress-republicans/672984/>

    --bks

    "In this hyper-polarized era, the goal of the survival-minded
    politician is not so much to offer grand visions as to expand his own coalition, even if only a little, while squeezing his opponents where
    it hurts most. Like a boxer trying to goad his antagonist into leaving
    open a vulnerable spot for a counterpunch, Biden’s plan was to invite Republicans to make dangerous mistakes. This was a speech not of lofty
    phrases but of cunning ploys; not one for the ages, but one that will reverberate long enough to make a difference in November 2024."

    Trust and believe. Biden pointed out to a national audience what the Republicans have really tried to do to working Americans. From the
    12million new jobs in the past two years to lowering insulin and
    prescription drug prices, he scored point after point. He got
    noticeably lost from time to time but when he went back to speaking
    off the cuff, he cornered jeering Republicans and reminded Americans
    over and over what they've paid for Republican dominance.

    Swill
    NP: Candlebox - "Far Behind"
    --
    Bill Mahr on George Santos: "Everyone saw in George Santos what
    they wanted to see - Republicans saw a Trump loving rich prick, Democrats
    saw a a proudly gay person of color, and the Proud Boys saw him as a guy
    who would blow them after a couple of beers and not tell anyone."

    Glory to the heroes! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Feb 8 15:33:55 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 13:52:51 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | WHY THE WHITE HOUSE IS CELEBRATING -- President JOE BIDEN
    | had a few goals last night:
    |
    | 1. Remind his audience of his accomplishments over the last
    | two years;
    |
    | 2. Reiterate his positions in the spending debate (no
    | negotiations over the debt ceiling and no touching Social
    | Security and Medicare);
    |
    | 3. Detail the most popular highlights of his 2023 agenda;
    | and
    |
    | 4. Expose his congressional GOP opposition as unreasonable
    | and chaotic.
    |
    | The speech accomplished the first three goals if you
    | listened or read it carefully. But it will be best
    | remembered for the dramatic clashes with jeering members of
    | the GOP which may have done more than Biden ever could have
    | hoped to accomplish goal No. 4.
    | ...
    <https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2023/02/08/bidens-no-compromise-sotu-00081779>

    --bks

    I noticed an unusually high level of bipartisan support for the vast
    majority of the night.

    Also, McCarthy and Harris were pleasantly civil to each other. Both
    parties stood to applaud Nancy Pelosi when Biden acknowledged her long
    service.

    Biden asked the GOP to be sure to submit their next spending plan next
    month when he submits his so both parties can sit down together and
    work it out.

    Swill
    NP: Third Eye Blind - "Charmed Life"
    --
    Bill Mahr on George Santos: "Everyone saw in George Santos what
    they wanted to see - Republicans saw a Trump loving rich prick, Democrats
    saw a a proudly gay person of color, and the Proud Boys saw him as a guy
    who would blow them after a couple of beers and not tell anyone."

    Glory to the heroes! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA on Wed Feb 8 19:01:37 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 15:27:37 -0500, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    Actually, the Republicans have been protecting Medicare and Social
    Security benefits.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

    That's funny! Tell us another one!

    But seriously, on more than one occasion the GOP has tried to slash
    these entitlements. The "thumpin'" they took in 2006 taught them a
    lot but still, it pisses the party's donors no end that voters insist
    on a cut of the national wealth for themselves.

    Swill
    --
    Bill Mahr on George Santos: "Everyone saw in George Santos what
    they wanted to see - Republicans saw a Trump loving rich prick, Democrats
    saw a a proudly gay person of color, and the Proud Boys saw him as a guy
    who would blow them after a couple of beers and not tell anyone."

    Glory to the heroes! Glory to Ukraine!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 17 13:38:59 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Sanofi is cutting the list price of Lantus, its most widely
    | prescribed insulin in the US, by 78% and establishing a $35
    | monthly cap for those with private insurance, the company
    | announced Thursday. The change is effective January 1.
    |
    | The move follows similar ones by Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk
    | this month. The three companies dominate the global insulin
    | market.
    |
    | Insulin manufacturers have come under increased public and
    | government pressure to lower their prices for more people
    | with diabetes in the wake of the Inflation Reduction Act,
    | which set a $35 cap per insulin prescription per month for
    | Medicare beneficiaries.
    | ... <https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/16/health/sanofi-insulin-price-reduction/index.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 30 00:50:20 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-20/us-growth-seen-outpacing-china-s-for-first-time-since-1976?leadSource=uverifywall#xj4y7vzkg>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Apr 30 02:32:24 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
    news:u2ke0c$j7l$1@panix3.panix.com:

    |
    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-20/us-growth-seen-outp acing-china-s-for-first-time-since-1976?leadSource=uverifywall#xj4y7vzk


    --bks



    But....but....Hunter Biden's laptop!

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  • From WhataWonderfulWorld@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Apr 30 03:55:10 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote in news:XnsAFF5DB59F554Bnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.59:

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:u2ke0c$j7l$1@panix3.panix.com:

    |
    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-20/us-growth-seen-outp
    acing-china-s-for-first-time-since-1976?leadSource=uverifywall#xj4y7vzk


    --bks



    But....but....Hunter Biden's laptop!






    They have had this Laptop thing for a few years now, has anyone found
    anything thats actually illegal on it yet ?

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Apr 30 06:28:18 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:32:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in >news:u2ke0c$j7l$1@panix3.panix.com:

    |
    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-20/us-growth-seen-outpacing-china-s-for-first-time-since-1976?leadSource=uverifywall#xj4y7vzkg>

    --bks



    But....but....Hunter Biden's laptop!

    That's more than a year old and it's predicted numbers didn't happen.

    Got anything newer, fresher, more accurate?

    Swill

    --
    From Bill Maher: So Fox News, they put out a statement after the settlement was reached.
    They said, "This settlement reflects the continuing commitment of Fox News
    to the highest journalistic standards."
    But I got to say, you know, which news outlets have, I think, even higher journalistic standards?
    The ones who don’t have to pay three quarters of a billion dollars for being a fucking liar."

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 30 06:30:01 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 03:55:10 GMT, WhataWonderfulWorld <thunnusalbacares@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote in >news:XnsAFF5DB59F554Bnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.59:

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
    news:u2ke0c$j7l$1@panix3.panix.com:

    |
    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-20/us-growth-seen-outp
    acing-china-s-for-first-time-since-1976?leadSource=uverifywall#xj4y7vzk


    --bks

    But....but....Hunter Biden's laptop!


    They have had this Laptop thing for a few years now, has anyone found >anything thats actually illegal on it yet ?

    Nope.

    Swill
    --
    From Bill Maher: So Fox News, they put out a statement after the settlement was reached.
    They said, "This settlement reflects the continuing commitment of Fox News
    to the highest journalistic standards."
    But I got to say, you know, which news outlets have, I think, even higher journalistic standards?
    The ones who don’t have to pay three quarters of a billion dollars for being a fucking liar."

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Apr 30 04:05:47 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:u2ke0c$j7l$1@panix3.panix.com:

    |
    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-20/us-growth-seen-outp
    acing-china-s-for-first-time-since-1976?leadSource=uverifywall#xj4y7vzk


    --bks



    But....but....Hunter Biden's laptop!

    Hunter laptop or Boebert lapdance? Which will attract more votes?


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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Sun Apr 30 22:04:32 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 04:05:47 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    But....but....Hunter Biden's laptop!

    Hunter laptop or Boebert lapdance? Which will attract more votes?

    Ooh! Ooh! Lapdance, for 200, Alex!

    Swill
    --
    From Bill Maher: So Fox News, they put out a statement after the settlement was reached.
    They said, "This settlement reflects the continuing commitment of Fox News
    to the highest journalistic standards."
    But I got to say, you know, which news outlets have, I think, even higher journalistic standards?
    The ones who don’t have to pay three quarters of a billion dollars for being a fucking liar."

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Phil Omdahl@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Apr 30 19:12:41 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/30/2023 7:04 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 04:05:47 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    But....but....Hunter Biden's laptop!

    Hunter laptop or Boebert lapdance? Which will attract more votes?

    Ooh! Ooh! Lapdance, for 200, Alex!

    The big question is, if you throw in an extra $50, will Boebert piss on you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Phil Omdahl on Mon May 1 01:15:28 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 19:12:41 -0700, Phil Omdahl <jaques.idiot.pal@number1> wrote:

    On 4/30/2023 7:04 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 04:05:47 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    But....but....Hunter Biden's laptop!

    Hunter laptop or Boebert lapdance? Which will attract more votes?

    Ooh! Ooh! Lapdance, for 200, Alex!

    The big question is, if you throw in an extra $50, will Boebert piss on you?

    Ask Donald. He's the expert on that.

    Swill
    --
    From Bill Maher: So Fox News, they put out a statement after the settlement was reached.
    They said, "This settlement reflects the continuing commitment of Fox News
    to the highest journalistic standards."
    But I got to say, you know, which news outlets have, I think, even higher journalistic standards?
    The ones who don’t have to pay three quarters of a billion dollars for being a fucking liar."

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Phil Omdahl on Mon May 1 04:18:18 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Phil Omdahl wrote:
    On 4/30/2023 7:04 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 04:05:47 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
          But....but....Hunter Biden's laptop!

    Hunter laptop or Boebert lapdance? Which will attract more votes?

    Ooh!  Ooh!  Lapdance, for 200, Alex!

    The big question is, if you throw in an extra $50, will Boebert
    piss on you?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4j7ggZqbiU

    Lynyrd Skynyrd - That Smell


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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 5 12:43:21 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976

    |
    | Job growth fared better than expected in April despite bank
    | turmoil and a decelerating economy, the Labor Department
    | reported Friday.
    |
    | Nonfarm payrolls increased 253,000 for the month, beating
    | Wall Street estimates for growth of 180,000, according to
    | the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
    |
    | The unemployment rate was 3.4% against an estimate for 3.6%
    | and tied for the lowest level since 1969.
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/05/jobs-report-april-2023-job-growth-totals-25300-in-april.html>

    --bks

    Prepare for GOP sabotage!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri May 5 16:00:41 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 5 May 2023 12:43:21 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976

    |
    | Job growth fared better than expected in April despite bank
    | turmoil and a decelerating economy, the Labor Department
    | reported Friday.
    |
    | Nonfarm payrolls increased 253,000 for the month, beating
    | Wall Street estimates for growth of 180,000, according to
    | the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
    |
    | The unemployment rate was 3.4% against an estimate for 3.6%
    | and tied for the lowest level since 1969.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/05/jobs-report-april-2023-job-growth-totals-25300-in-april.html>

    --bks

    Prepare for GOP sabotage!

    They're already at it. As little as a week of government shutdown could cost 100K jobs. A
    month would cost 2,000,000. The 2019 shutdown cost the economy $11B. Meanwhile, the fed
    is now concerned with reducing job growth, not just inflation, as the economy is seriously
    overheated.

    Another 253,000 jobs were added in April.

    Swill
    --
    "Poison is running through our democracy and parts of the extreme press. Truth, buried by lies.
    and lies living on as truth. Lies told for profit and power. Lies and conspiracy and malice
    repeated over and over and over again, designed to generate a cycle of hate and even violence.
    A cycle that emboldens, history to be buried, books to be banned, children and families to be
    attacked by the State, the rule of law and our rights and freedoms to be stripped away.
    Where elected representatives of the people are expelled from Statehouses for standing for the people.
    I've made clear that we know in our bones, and you know it too, our democracy remains at risk.
    But I've also made it clear, as I've seen throughout my life, it's within our power, each and every one of us
    to preserve our democracy. We can, we must, we will." -- President Biden at the 2023 Whitehouse Correspondent's Dinner

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat May 6 10:06:34 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 5 May 2023 12:43:21 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976

    |
    | Job growth fared better than expected in April despite bank
    | turmoil and a decelerating economy, the Labor Department
    | reported Friday.
    |
    | Nonfarm payrolls increased 253,000 for the month, beating
    | Wall Street estimates for growth of 180,000, according to
    | the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
    |
    | The unemployment rate was 3.4% against an estimate for 3.6%
    | and tied for the lowest level since 1969.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/05/jobs-report-april-2023-job-growth-totals-25300-in-april.html>

    --bks

    Prepare for GOP sabotage!

    You mean "sabotage" like the FACTS of real economic decline, massive
    inflation, uncontrolled borders and tacit acceptance of violence from
    the left??? Odd that you focus on only one issue while the rest of
    the country is falling apart.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sat May 6 10:07:19 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 05 May 2023 16:00:41 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 5 May 2023 12:43:21 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976

    |
    | Job growth fared better than expected in April despite bank
    | turmoil and a decelerating economy, the Labor Department
    | reported Friday.
    |
    | Nonfarm payrolls increased 253,000 for the month, beating
    | Wall Street estimates for growth of 180,000, according to
    | the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
    |
    | The unemployment rate was 3.4% against an estimate for 3.6%
    | and tied for the lowest level since 1969.
    | ... >><https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/05/jobs-report-april-2023-job-growth-totals-25300-in-april.html>

    --bks

    Prepare for GOP sabotage!

    They're already at it. As little as a week of government shutdown could cost 100K jobs. A

    Look at you advocating for uncontrolled spending.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Charlie Glock <"Charlie@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat May 6 14:22:55 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2023-05-06, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 5 May 2023 12:43:21 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976

    |
    | Job growth fared better than expected in April despite bank
    | turmoil and a decelerating economy, the Labor Department
    | reported Friday.
    |
    | Nonfarm payrolls increased 253,000 for the month, beating
    | Wall Street estimates for growth of 180,000, according to
    | the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
    |
    | The unemployment rate was 3.4% against an estimate for 3.6%
    | and tied for the lowest level since 1969.
    | ... >><https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/05/jobs-report-april-2023-job-growth-totals-25300-in-april.html>

    --bks

    Prepare for GOP sabotage!

    You mean "sabotage" like the FACTS of real economic decline, massive inflation, uncontrolled borders and tacit acceptance of violence from
    the left??? Odd that you focus on only one issue while the rest of
    the country is falling apart.

    Unless things improve drastically, the Republican nominee can simply campaign on "are you better
    off now than 4 years ago?" And then back up the points with data.
    The problem is many people will vote for the Democrats anyway hoping things will improve (see
    Germany pre WW2 for examples of this) because they consider it a vote against Trump.


    --
    Charlie Glock
    "To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
    -- Adolf Hitler

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat May 6 10:55:07 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 5/6/2023 7:06 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 5 May 2023 12:43:21 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | US Growth Seen Outpacing China's for First Time Since 1976

    |
    | Job growth fared better than expected in April despite bank
    | turmoil and a decelerating economy, the Labor Department
    | reported Friday.
    |
    | Nonfarm payrolls increased 253,000 for the month, beating
    | Wall Street estimates for growth of 180,000, according to
    | the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
    |
    | The unemployment rate was 3.4% against an estimate for 3.6%
    | and tied for the lowest level since 1969.
    | ...
    <https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/05/jobs-report-april-2023-job-growth-totals-25300-in-april.html>

    --bks

    Prepare for GOP sabotage!

    You mean "sabotage" like the FACTS of real economic decline

    That's false. In fact, economic growth is *too* strong, keeping inflation higher than it otherwise would be.

    massive inflation,

    There is no "massive inflation." It's stubbornly high, but it is *falling*.


    uncontrolled borders and tacit acceptance of violence from
    the left???

    Two more lies.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Dec 10 09:32:19 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 15:41:48 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. payrolls rose 199,000 in November, unemployment rate
    | falls to 3.7%

    |
    | Americans might be loath to believe it, but on paper, the
    | U.S. economy is doing pretty well. So well, in fact, that
    | we're outperforming forecasts made even before the pandemic
    | began.
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/08/jobs-report-economy-beats-pandemic-predictions/>

    --bks

    When you have a disconnect between numbers and what people say and
    feel, you're numbers are suspect. Basic concepts.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Dec 10 09:34:43 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 09:23:01 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 14:59:02 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | U.S. payrolls rose 199,000 in November, unemployment rate
    | falls to 3.7%
    | ... >><https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/08/jobs-report-november-2023-us-payrolls-rose-199000-in-november-unemployment-rate-falls-to-3point7percent.html>

    --bks

    Oops. The second largest increase is in government jobs....

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/08/heres-where-the-jobs-are-for-november-2023-in-one-chart.html

    Once again the Russian Bradley can't defend the garbage he posts.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Dec 10 07:12:46 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    When you have a disconnect between numbers and what people say and
    feel, you're numbers are suspect. Basic concepts.

    We already know you reject the scientific method. For you feels
    not reals.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com on Tue Dec 12 07:12:13 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 07:12:46 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    When you have a disconnect between numbers and what people say and
    feel, you're numbers are suspect. Basic concepts.

    We already know you reject the scientific method. For you feels
    not reals.

    Yet another Siri nonsensical reply.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Tue Dec 12 07:15:55 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 14:15:56 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 07:12:46 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    When you have a disconnect between numbers and what people say and
    feel, you're numbers are suspect. Basic concepts.

    We already know you reject the scientific method. For you feels
    not reals.

    No wonder Kremlin Girl is such a stooge, she has it backwards! You use numbers to confirm
    if your feelings are correct, not the other way 'round!

    Swill

    Interesting that you still end up with the same question. Why the
    disconnect? Could this be the reason:



    Press Release
    Total Household Debt Reaches $17.29 Trillion in Q3 2023; Driven by
    Mortgage, Credit Card, and Student Loan Balances
    Delinquency transition rates increase for most debt types
    November 07, 2023

    NEW YORK—The Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s Center for
    Microeconomic Data today issued its Quarterly Report on Household Debt
    and Credit. The Report shows total household debt increased by $228
    billion (1.3%) in the third quarter of 2023, to $17.29 trillion. The
    report is based on data from the New York Fed’s nationally
    representative Consumer Credit Panel. "

    https://www.newyorkfed.org/newsevents/news/research/2023/20231107

    We're spending money we simply don't have. What do you suppose is the
    likely outcome of this since that "great economy" is built on a poor foundation?

    I know time for Swilly to run away and hide.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Dec 12 06:51:14 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    and Credit. The Report shows total household debt increased by $228
    billion (1.3%) in the third quarter of 2023, to $17.29 trillion. The
    report is based on data from the New York Fed’s nationally
    representative Consumer Credit Panel. "

    Amount of debt is irrelevant. What's relevant to the lender is
    getting paid back. If you're smart, you use the money for
    something worth the interest. My interest payments quickly became
    less than rent would've been.

    We're spending money we simply don't have. What do you suppose is the
    likely outcome of this since that "great economy" is built on a poor foundation?

    Most businesses are always on debt because they intend to use the
    money to make profits that exceed the interest. When states act to
    prevent fraudulent exploitation of borrowing Republican scream
    bloody treason.

    --
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com on Wed Dec 13 07:06:51 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 06:51:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    and Credit. The Report shows total household debt increased by $228
    billion (1.3%) in the third quarter of 2023, to $17.29 trillion. The
    report is based on data from the New York Fed’s nationally
    representative Consumer Credit Panel. "

    Amount of debt is irrelevant. What's relevant to the lender is
    getting paid back.

    Problem is that they aren't. Have you noticed that car reposessions
    are increasing due to non-payment of the loans? Increasing the
    spending of money that you don't have is never a good sign for the
    economy.

    "The holidays are a popular time to rack up credit card debt. And this
    season, you may be resigned to closing out December with a credit card
    balance that will carry into 2024.

    But what if your 2023 holiday credit card balance is coming on top of
    an existing balance from last year's holiday season? According to a
    recent survey by CouponFollow, 25% of Americans said last year’s
    holiday shopping led to credit card debt. And of consumers in that
    boat, 35% have yet to pay that debt off in full.

    The problem, though, is that the longer you carry a balance on your
    credit cards, the more interest you rack up. Also, too large a credit
    card balance relative to your total spending limit could actually drag
    down your credit score. This holds true even if you manage to make
    your minimum payments each month.

    If you're still hanging onto debt from the 2022 holidays, it's
    imperative that you shake it as quickly as you can. And with these two
    tactics, you may find that you're able to become debt-free well before
    the end of 2024."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/1-in-3-americans-who-racked-up-holiday-debt-in-2022-still-havent-paid-it-off/ar-AA1ldJjH

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Dec 13 06:25:46 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    NoBody wrote:
    and Credit. The Report shows total household debt increased by $228
    billion (1.3%) in the third quarter of 2023, to $17.29 trillion. The
    report is based on data from the New York Fed’s nationally
    representative Consumer Credit Panel. "
    Amount of debt is irrelevant. What's relevant to the lender is
    getting paid back.
    Problem is that they aren't. Have you noticed that car reposessions
    are increasing due to non-payment of the loans? Increasing the
    spending of money that you don't have is never a good sign for the
    economy.


    Then whine appropriately.

    --
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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 14 02:04:17 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. payrolls rose 199,000 in November, unemployment rate
    | falls to 3.7%

    |
    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/13/dow-jones-stock-market-record-high-economy-interest-rates/>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com on Thu Dec 14 07:04:35 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 06:25:46 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    NoBody wrote:
    and Credit. The Report shows total household debt increased by $228
    billion (1.3%) in the third quarter of 2023, to $17.29 trillion. The
    report is based on data from the New York Fed’s nationally
    representative Consumer Credit Panel. "
    Amount of debt is irrelevant. What's relevant to the lender is
    getting paid back.
    Problem is that they aren't. Have you noticed that car reposessions
    are increasing due to non-payment of the loans? Increasing the
    spending of money that you don't have is never a good sign for the
    economy.


    Then whine appropriately.

    You misspelled "wine" of which you have had far too much.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Dec 14 07:05:46 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 02:04:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. payrolls rose 199,000 in November, unemployment rate
    | falls to 3.7%

    |
    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/13/dow-jones-stock-market-record-high-economy-interest-rates/>

    --bks

    So the Dow just reached the point where it was near three years ago.
    Time to celebrate!

    <eyeroll>

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Dec 14 07:06:48 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 07:06:51 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 06:51:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    and Credit. The Report shows total household debt increased by $228
    billion (1.3%) in the third quarter of 2023, to $17.29 trillion. The
    report is based on data from the New York Fed’s nationally
    representative Consumer Credit Panel. "

    Amount of debt is irrelevant. What's relevant to the lender is
    getting paid back.

    Problem is that they aren't. Have you noticed that car reposessions
    are increasing due to non-payment of the loans? Increasing the
    spending of money that you don't have is never a good sign for the
    economy.

    "The holidays are a popular time to rack up credit card debt. And this >season, you may be resigned to closing out December with a credit card >balance that will carry into 2024.

    But what if your 2023 holiday credit card balance is coming on top of
    an existing balance from last year's holiday season? According to a
    recent survey by CouponFollow, 25% of Americans said last year’s
    holiday shopping led to credit card debt. And of consumers in that
    boat, 35% have yet to pay that debt off in full.

    The problem, though, is that the longer you carry a balance on your
    credit cards, the more interest you rack up. Also, too large a credit
    card balance relative to your total spending limit could actually drag
    down your credit score. This holds true even if you manage to make
    your minimum payments each month.

    If you're still hanging onto debt from the 2022 holidays, it's
    imperative that you shake it as quickly as you can. And with these two >tactics, you may find that you're able to become debt-free well before
    the end of 2024."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/1-in-3-americans-who-racked-up-holiday-debt-in-2022-still-havent-paid-it-off/ar-AA1ldJjH

    And Siri (once again) runs away from the facts.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 14 15:16:27 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation

    | ...
    | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
    | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
    | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
    | ...
    <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Fri Dec 15 07:09:45 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation

    | ...
    | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
    | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
    | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
    | ...
    <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html>

    --bks

    And they did (or did you forget)?
    We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net
    get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
    market returns.

    I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into
    the 28000's under Biden.

    It's either Biden's market or it's not.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Dec 15 07:11:20 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 07:05:46 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 02:04:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. payrolls rose 199,000 in November, unemployment rate
    | falls to 3.7%

    |
    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation
    | ... >><https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/13/dow-jones-stock-market-record-high-economy-interest-rates/>

    --bks

    So the Dow just reached the point where it was near three years ago.
    Time to celebrate!

    <eyeroll>

    And Bradley runs away.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Dec 15 07:39:14 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation

    | ...
    | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
    | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
    | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
    | ...
    <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html>

    --bks

    And they did (or did you forget)?
    We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net
    get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
    market returns.

    I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into
    the 28000's under Biden.

    It's either Biden's market or it's not.


    When was that market crash?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com on Sat Dec 16 10:07:00 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:39:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation

    | ...
    | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
    | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
    | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
    | ...
    <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html>

    --bks

    And they did (or did you forget)?
    We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net
    get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
    market returns.

    I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into
    the 28000's under Biden.

    It's either Biden's market or it's not.


    When was that market crash?

    Didn't read before replying????

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sat Dec 16 10:08:05 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 13:30:58 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:39:14 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation

    | ...
    | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
    | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
    | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
    | ...
    <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html> >>>>
    --bks

    And they did (or did you forget)?
    We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net
    get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
    market returns.

    I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into
    the 28000's under Biden.

    It's either Biden's market or it's not.


    When was that market crash?

    First, it didn't get below 28000 under Biden.

    Where did I say it did???

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Dec 16 09:48:33 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:39:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation

    | ...
    | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
    | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
    | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
    | ...
    <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html> >>>>
    --bks

    And they did (or did you forget)?
    We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net
    get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
    market returns.

    I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into
    the 28000's under Biden.

    It's either Biden's market or it's not.


    When was that market crash?

    Didn't read before replying????


    Are you defining a market crash as any reduction in Dow Jones?
    That's a dozen market crash per month.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 17 03:53:23 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ... <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Dec 17 09:09:53 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>

    --bks

    Total crap. Because the police are being defunded there are fewer
    arrests. This doesn't mean actual crime has decreased.

    Damn the left knows no bounds of lying.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com on Sun Dec 17 09:11:04 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 09:48:33 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:39:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation

    | ...
    | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
    | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
    | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
    | ...
    <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html> >>>>>
    --bks

    And they did (or did you forget)?
    We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net >>>> get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
    market returns.

    I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into
    the 28000's under Biden.

    It's either Biden's market or it's not.


    When was that market crash?

    Didn't read before replying????


    Are you defining a market crash as any reduction in Dow Jones?
    That's a dozen market crash per month.

    34K to 28K is a crash in most people's minds.
    You'll do anything to cover for the old coot won't you?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sun Dec 17 09:19:44 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 21:07:04 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 09:48:33 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:39:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation

    | ...
    | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
    | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
    | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
    | ...
    <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html> >>>>>>
    --bks

    And they did (or did you forget)?
    We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net >>>>> get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
    market returns.

    I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into >>>>> the 28000's under Biden.

    It's either Biden's market or it's not.


    When was that market crash?

    Didn't read before replying????


    Are you defining a market crash as any reduction in Dow Jones?
    That's a dozen market crash per month.

    And Kremlin Girl shows her utter stupidity again.

    Trump's highest Dow was only 500 points above Biden's lowest and the current Dow is 7000
    points above Trump's high.

    Swill

    That's a demonstrable lie.

    Dec 18, 2020 30179 Trump
    Sept 30,2022 28725 Biden

    Math challenged are you?

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Dec 17 14:39:36 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual ly-down-rcna129585>

    --bks



    Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Dec 17 15:31:17 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual
    ly-down-rcna129585>

    --bks



    Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.


    Yea, the Democrats have been using that line on the blacks and other minorities for decades. So
    What good have they done?
    Currently the Democrats have a major problem because the blacks and other minorities have realized
    the Democrats do nothing for them and they are moving toward the Republican party.


    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Dec 17 15:28:54 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2023-12-17, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ... >><https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>

    --bks

    Total crap. Because the police are being defunded there are fewer
    arrests. This doesn't mean actual crime has decreased.

    Damn the left knows no bounds of lying.

    Ask the people of NYC or SF or Portland or Chicago what they think about OVERALL crime being down.
    Why do you think CVS has toothbrushes for example locked up in cabinets?

    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From Donald T. Sherman@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Dec 17 11:12:38 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/17/2023 6:09 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>

    --bks

    Total crap. Because the police are being defunded

    No police have been "defunded." Stop lying, you fucking troll.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Dec 17 18:45:33 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:uln485$2vtt2$4@dont-email.me:

    On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
    news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actu
    al ly-down-rcna129585>

    --bks



    Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.


    Yea, the Democrats have been using that line on the blacks and other minorities for decades. So What good have they done?
    Currently the Democrats have a major problem because the blacks and
    other minorities have realized the Democrats do nothing for them and
    they are moving toward the Republican party.



    That explains why the only black
    in the GOP nomination (Tim Scott)
    flopped entirely - because so many
    blacks are switching to the Republicans.

    And why the Congressional Black
    Caucus has zero Republican members.

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  • From Donald T. Sherman@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Dec 17 11:14:35 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/17/2023 6:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 09:48:33 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:39:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:16:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation

    | ...
    | Then-President Trump warned voters during a 2020
    | presidential debate with now-President Joe Biden that the
    | markets would "crash" if Biden won.
    | ...
    <https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trumps-old-stock-market-091517272.html> >>>>>>
    --bks

    And they did (or did you forget)?
    We are only just now getting back into the neighborhood they were. Net >>>>> get gain is about 6 to 7% a year which is rather ho-hum for stock
    market returns.

    I also note you were *dead silent* about the drop of the market into >>>>> the 28000's under Biden.

    It's either Biden's market or it's not.


    When was that market crash?

    Didn't read before replying????


    Are you defining a market crash as any reduction in Dow Jones?
    That's a dozen market crash per month.

    34K to 28K is a crash in most people's minds.

    Bullshit.

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  • From Charlie Glock@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 17 11:17:56 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/17/2023 7:28 AM, "pothole," knuckle-dragging Nazi liar, lied:
    On 2023-12-17, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>

    --bks

    Total crap. Because the police are being defunded there are fewer
    arrests. This doesn't mean actual crime has decreased.

    Damn the left knows no bounds of lying.

    Ask the people of NYC or SF or Portland or Chicago what they think about OVERALL crime being down.

    You don't have *any* fucking idea what the changes in crime rates are in a single one of those cities, "pothole," you fucking liar. And you don't have any fucking idea of any changes in police funding, either.

    *Fact*: no police have been "defunded."

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Donald T. Sherman on Sun Dec 17 13:25:33 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Donald T. Sherman wrote:

    Are you defining a market crash as any reduction in Dow Jones?
    That's a dozen market crash per month.

    34K to 28K is a crash in most people's minds.

    Bullshit.

    Most people don't do stock trades.

    --
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    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Dec 17 22:53:39 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 15:28:54 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2023-12-17, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 03:53:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ... >>>><https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585>

    --bks

    Total crap. Because the police are being defunded there are fewer
    arrests. This doesn't mean actual crime has decreased.

    Damn the left knows no bounds of lying.

    Ask the people of NYC or SF or Portland or Chicago what they think about OVERALL crime being down.
    Why do you think CVS has toothbrushes for example locked up in cabinets?

    Got a pic of CVS toothbrushes locked up? Or is that just paranoia at work?

    Swilll

    Not at the moment but next time I'm in NYC I snap a pic. For now, this should suffice:

    <https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/cvs-target-locking-up-items-toothpaste-soap-deodorant-in-some-
    stores/>

    <https://www.google.com/search?q=CVS+toothbrushes+locked+up&tbm=isch&chips=q:cvs+toothbrushes+locked
    +up,online_chips:san+francisco:To2fworY0RU%3D&hl=en&sa=X&ved= 2ahUKEwiPk4_qx5eDAxXAI1kFHW9mCTsQ4lYoCHoECAEQQQ&biw=1536&bih=612>


    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Dec 17 22:50:14 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 15:31:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
    news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual >>>> ly-down-rcna129585>

    --bks



    Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.


    Yea, the Democrats have been using that line on the blacks and other minorities for decades. So
    What good have they done?
    Currently the Democrats have a major problem because the blacks and other minorities have realized
    the Democrats do nothing for them and they are moving toward the Republican party.

    I've long said that non white cultures tend to be conservative but have found themselves
    rejected by the GOP and that if the rank and file can get past their current flirtation
    with racism, the RNC can reign supreme over the DNC.

    Swill

    I think Mitchell nailed it with his identity politics comment.
    The problem the Democrats have now is the same or even worse than the problems associated with
    Carter. Both had a record to run on for their second term and neither was/is benefiting the people.
    Hasidic Jews in NYC typically vote as a block and universally for the Democrats. They are now
    moving towards the Republican party. It's starting small but the signs of movement are there.

    This election in 2024 is going to come down to two issues:

    1. Are you personally better off now than you were when Biden took office ?
    2. How much do you hate Trump to where you will continue to suffer under Biden?

    I would add that abortion will be a distant third, but still relevant.
    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Dec 18 02:49:43 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:hdsuni9nopihq5r37hil9o693rvhc0b10k@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 14:39:36 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in >>news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actu
    al ly-down-rcna129585>

    --bks



    Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.

    Democrats tax and spend, Republicans borrow and spend.

    Democrats believe in fair play, Republicans believe in cheating.

    Democrats want everybody happy, Republicans only want themselves
    happy. --


    "Trump hates the same people I hate,
    that's good enough for me"

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  • From Cune I. Form@21:1/5 to Kremlin Bootlicker on Mon Dec 18 12:41:02 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/14/2023 4:05 AM, Kremlin Bootlicker wrote:

    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 02:04:17 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. payrolls rose 199,000 in November, unemployment rate
    | falls to 3.7%

    |
    | Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress
    | on inflation
    | ...
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/13/dow-jones-stock-market-record-high-economy-interest-rates/>

    --bks

    So the Dow just reached the point where it was near three years ago.
    Time to celebrate!

    <eyeroll>

    Jan. 5, 2022: The Dow hit its all-time high of 36,952.65.

    Try to remember who was president as of that date, you relentlessly
    useless trolling piece of shit.

    Dec. 18, 2024: Dow at 37,314.94 just an hour prior to close.

    Who's president again, you lying piece of shit?

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Dec 19 02:36:08 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2023-12-19, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 22:50:14 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 15:31:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
    news:ullrbj$35g$2@reader2.panix.com:

    |
    | Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're
    | wrong.
    |
    | Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of
    | Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in
    | 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken
    | impression.
    | ...
    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actual >>>>>> ly-down-rcna129585>

    --bks



    Democrats preach hope, Republicans preach fear.


    Yea, the Democrats have been using that line on the blacks and other minorities for decades. So
    What good have they done?
    Currently the Democrats have a major problem because the blacks and other minorities have realized
    the Democrats do nothing for them and they are moving toward the Republican party.

    I've long said that non white cultures tend to be conservative but have found themselves
    rejected by the GOP and that if the rank and file can get past their current flirtation
    with racism, the RNC can reign supreme over the DNC.

    Swill

    I think Mitchell nailed it with his identity politics comment.

    Identity politics affects both parties. If you poll on issues, the great majority of
    voters come down clearly on the Democrat side.

    But if you ask people their candidate preference by *party*, the majority says they'll
    support Republicans.

    Pretty much true.


    The problem the Democrats have now is the same or even worse than the problems associated with
    Carter. Both had a record to run on for their second term and neither was/is benefiting the people.
    Hasidic Jews in NYC typically vote as a block and universally for the Democrats. They are now
    moving towards the Republican party.

    That was a pander by Trump declaring Jerusalem the true capital of Israel and moving the
    US Embassy there.

    I'm not really sure if that got Trump votes or not. The data is all over the place.

    It's starting small but the signs of movement are there.

    That movement is being slowed by the hard right. Tough to attract even the most
    conservative blacks to a party that also has white supremacist members.

    The Hasidic Jews are mostly democrats but they are changing and since they vote as a block it is a
    powerful win/loose for either party.
    I remember during the midterms I saw banners in Brooklyn NY and Jewish hoods pushing Trump. I have
    never seen that before.


    This election in 2024 is going to come down to two issues:

    1. Are you personally better off now than you were when Biden took office ? >>2. How much do you hate Trump to where you will continue to suffer under Biden?

    I would add that abortion will be a distant third, but still relevant.

    Not that distant. It could cost the GOP significant suburban women votes and therefore
    the Congress, assuming that block doesn't split. See Georgia results for 2020 wherein
    Trump lost the state closely but its Republican Governor won with a decisive margin.

    Surburban women is a possibility. At least where I live, many are idiot soccer moms driving mini
    vans but even they are starting to realize that when the go to the market to buy gods, things cost
    a LOT more than they used to.
    Still, they went Dems in the midterms so who really knows?



    Also important is gerrymandering. As Dems take over Statehouses, as they are slowly
    doing, districts will be drawn to favor Democrats. This could cost, for example, the
    Republicans a district in Alabama.

    Both sides do that.
    i do not approve.

    NP: Beatles - Come Together
    --
    Swill



    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 19 14:02:39 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | ...
    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/opinion/inflation-economists.html>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Dec 20 13:31:08 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:02:39 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/opinion/inflation-economists.html>

    --bks

    Oh wow, the inflation increase is lower. I'm not sure how that's good
    news considering the pounding we've already taken that this does not
    change.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 20 19:13:10 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.

    |
    | US Consumer Confidence Surges Most Since 2021 in Broad
    | Upturn
    |
    | o Americans see better labor market, improving inflation outlook
    | o Buying plans rise amid expectations for lower interest rates
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-20/us-consumer-confidence-rises-to-5-month-high-on-better-outlook>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Dec 20 13:31:46 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:19:43 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:02:39 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.
    | ... >><https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/opinion/inflation-economists.html>

    --bks

    The trouble is, "core" doesn't include food and that continues to climb.

    Swill

    Figures lie and liars figure.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Dec 20 11:27:52 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:02:39 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/opinion/inflation-economists.html>

    --bks

    Oh wow, the inflation increase is lower. I'm not sure how that's good
    news considering the pounding we've already taken that this does not
    change.


    Would you prefer deflation?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Thu Dec 21 07:12:40 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 19:13:10 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.

    |
    | US Consumer Confidence Surges Most Since 2021 in Broad
    | Upturn
    |
    | o Americans see better labor market, improving inflation outlook
    | o Buying plans rise amid expectations for lower interest rates
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-20/us-consumer-confidence-rises-to-5-month-high-on-better-outlook>

    --bks

    More paywalled propaganda from the Russian troll.

    Meanwhile people are buying things they can't afford....

    "Household Debt Rises to $17.29 Trillion Led by Mortgage, Credit Card,
    and Student Loan Balances
    Total household debt rose by 1.3 percent to reach $17.29 trillion in
    the third quarter of 2023, according to the latest Quarterly Report on Household Debt and Credit. Mortgage balances increased to $12.14
    trillion, credit card balances to $1.08 trillion, and student loan
    balances to $1.6 trillion. Auto loan balances increased to $1.6
    trillion, continuing the upward trajectory seen since 2011. Other
    balances, which include retail credit cards and other consumer loans,
    were effectively flat at $0.53 trillion. Delinquency transition rates
    increased for most debt types, except for student loans.
    Household Debt Rises to $17.29 Trillion Led by Mortgage, Credit Card,
    and Student Loan Balances
    Total household debt rose by 1.3 percent to reach $17.29 trillion in
    the third quarter of 2023, according to the latest Quarterly Report on Household Debt and Credit. Mortgage balances increased to $12.14
    trillion, credit card balances to $1.08 trillion, and student loan
    balances to $1.6 trillion. Auto loan balances increased to $1.6
    trillion, continuing the upward trajectory seen since 2011. Other
    balances, which include retail credit cards and other consumer loans,
    were effectively flat at $0.53 trillion. Delinquency transition rates
    increased for most debt types, except for student loans."

    https://www.newyorkfed.org/microeconomics/hhdc

    NOT paywalled.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com on Thu Dec 21 07:13:27 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 11:27:52 -0800, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:02:39 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/opinion/inflation-economists.html>

    --bks

    Oh wow, the inflation increase is lower. I'm not sure how that's good
    news considering the pounding we've already taken that this does not
    change.


    Would you prefer deflation?

    Why are you running from the facts by asking a different question?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Dec 22 10:08:12 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 07:12:40 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 19:13:10 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.

    |
    | US Consumer Confidence Surges Most Since 2021 in Broad
    | Upturn
    |
    | o Americans see better labor market, improving inflation outlook
    | o Buying plans rise amid expectations for lower interest rates
    | ... >><https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-20/us-consumer-confidence-rises-to-5-month-high-on-better-outlook>

    --bks

    More paywalled propaganda from the Russian troll.

    Meanwhile people are buying things they can't afford....

    "Household Debt Rises to $17.29 Trillion Led by Mortgage, Credit Card,
    and Student Loan Balances
    Total household debt rose by 1.3 percent to reach $17.29 trillion in
    the third quarter of 2023, according to the latest Quarterly Report on >Household Debt and Credit. Mortgage balances increased to $12.14
    trillion, credit card balances to $1.08 trillion, and student loan
    balances to $1.6 trillion. Auto loan balances increased to $1.6
    trillion, continuing the upward trajectory seen since 2011. Other
    balances, which include retail credit cards and other consumer loans,
    were effectively flat at $0.53 trillion. Delinquency transition rates >increased for most debt types, except for student loans.
    Household Debt Rises to $17.29 Trillion Led by Mortgage, Credit Card,
    and Student Loan Balances
    Total household debt rose by 1.3 percent to reach $17.29 trillion in
    the third quarter of 2023, according to the latest Quarterly Report on >Household Debt and Credit. Mortgage balances increased to $12.14
    trillion, credit card balances to $1.08 trillion, and student loan
    balances to $1.6 trillion. Auto loan balances increased to $1.6
    trillion, continuing the upward trajectory seen since 2011. Other
    balances, which include retail credit cards and other consumer loans,
    were effectively flat at $0.53 trillion. Delinquency transition rates >increased for most debt types, except for student loans."

    https://www.newyorkfed.org/microeconomics/hhdc

    NOT paywalled.

    As expected, the Russian troll can't handle facts and runs and hides.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 24 14:10:34 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.

    | US Consumer Confidence Surges Most Since 2021 in Broad
    | Upturn

    |
    | Chart of the Week: Prices actually went down -- they didn't
    | just grow slower
    | ... <https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chart-of-the-week-prices-actually-went-down--they-didnt-just-grow-slower-110045662.html>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Dec 24 14:39:13 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:um9e4p$m4r$1@reader1.panix.com:

    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.

    | US Consumer Confidence Surges Most Since 2021 in Broad
    | Upturn

    |
    | Chart of the Week: Prices actually went down -- they didn't
    | just grow slower
    | ...
    <https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chart-of-the-week-prices-actually-went- down--they-didnt-just-grow-slower-110045662.html>

    --bks



    Bearing in mind how much of "inflation"
    was just price gouging by already very
    profitable corporations.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Mon Dec 25 10:56:51 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:10:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.

    | US Consumer Confidence Surges Most Since 2021 in Broad
    | Upturn

    |
    | Chart of the Week: Prices actually went down -- they didn't
    | just grow slower
    | ...
    <https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chart-of-the-week-prices-actually-went-down--they-didnt-just-grow-slower-110045662.html>

    --bks

    So you're saying that we only have 23% decrease to go since Biden's
    ridiculous inflation performance? This is like saying a man is
    starving and you hand him a cookie and say "all better now".

    Oh and your cite notes energy and food are not included in the chart.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to noemail@verizon.net on Mon Dec 25 10:57:39 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:39:13 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in >news:um9e4p$m4r$1@reader1.panix.com:

    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.

    | US Consumer Confidence Surges Most Since 2021 in Broad
    | Upturn

    |
    | Chart of the Week: Prices actually went down -- they didn't
    | just grow slower
    | ...
    <https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chart-of-the-week-prices-actually-went-
    down--they-didnt-just-grow-slower-110045662.html>

    --bks



    Bearing in mind how much of "inflation"
    was just price gouging by already very
    profitable corporations.



    Wow, Mitchie is really getting desperate in his reality dodging.



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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Dec 26 10:14:33 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 10:56:51 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:10:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | How amazing has the economy been? As recently as March, the
    | Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy
    | projected that we'd end this year with 4.5 percent
    | unemployment and with the Fed's preferred "core" measure of
    | inflation running at 3.6 percent. Last week, the same group
    | projected year-end unemployment of only 3.8 percent and
    | core inflation at only 3.2 percent. But actually the news
    | is even better, because that last number is inflation for
    | the year as a whole; over the six months ending in October,
    | core inflation was running at 2.5 percent, and most
    | analysts I follow believe that when November data come in
    | later this week, it will show inflation down to around 2
    | percent, which is the Fed's long-run target.

    | US Consumer Confidence Surges Most Since 2021 in Broad
    | Upturn

    |
    | Chart of the Week: Prices actually went down -- they didn't
    | just grow slower
    | ... >><https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chart-of-the-week-prices-actually-went-down--they-didnt-just-grow-slower-110045662.html>

    --bks

    So you're saying that we only have 23% decrease to go since Biden's >ridiculous inflation performance? This is like saying a man is
    starving and you hand him a cookie and say "all better now".

    Oh and your cite notes energy and food are not included in the chart.

    And Bradley has run away.

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  • From Cune I. Form@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Dec 27 12:53:39 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/26/2023 7:14 AM, NoBody wrote:

    And Bradley has

    wisely chosen to ignore your childish screams for attention. Fuck off.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Cune I. Form on Wed Dec 27 13:20:07 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 12/27/2023 12:53 PM, Cune I. Form wrote:
    On 12/26/2023 7:14 AM, NoBody wrote:

    And Bradley has

    wisely chosen to ignore your childish screams for attention. Fuck off.

    Well put.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed Jan 3 05:49:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    | Chart of the Week: Prices actually went down -- they didn't
    | just grow slower

    |
    | Gas prices fall under 3 bucks a gallon at majority of U.S.
    | stations
    | ... <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gas-prices-california-diesel-holiday-travel-oil/>

    --bks


    Some states are outliers. Alaska has more violent crime because
    the restrictions in winter drive people crazy and drunk.
    California has more expensive petrol because our smog is so bad.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 3 14:05:41 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | With 2023 ticking down, the nation is poised to finish the
    | year with its biggest annual drop in homicides on record,
    | according to preliminary data from law enforcement agencies
    | both large and small.
    |
    | The homicide rate in the United States is expected to
    | plummet nearly 13% compared to 2022, meaning more than
    | 2,000 fewer people were the victims of homicide this year,
    | Jeff Asher, a national crime analyst, told ABC News.
    | ... <https://abcnews.go.com/US/homicide-numbers-poised-hit-record-decline-nationwide-americans/story?id=105556400>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 3 13:41:52 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Chart of the Week: Prices actually went down -- they didn't
    | just grow slower

    |
    | Gas prices fall under 3 bucks a gallon at majority of U.S.
    | stations
    | ... <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gas-prices-california-diesel-holiday-travel-oil/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 5 14:03:22 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | U.S. payrolls increased by 216,000 in December, much better
    | than expected
    |
    |
    | The U.S. labor market closed out 2023 in strong shape as
    | the pace of hiring was even more powerful than expected,
    | the Labor Department reported Friday.
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/05/jobs-report-december-2023-payrolls-increased-by-216000-in-december.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 14:58:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | U.S. producer prices unexpectedly fell in December amid
    | declining costs for goods such as diesel fuel and food,
    | suggesting inflation would continue to subside and allow
    | the Federal Reserve to start cutting interest rates this
    | year.
    | ... <https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-producer-prices-unexpectedly-fall-december-2024-01-12/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 25 22:49:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. producer prices unexpectedly fell in December amid
    | declining costs for goods such as diesel fuel and food,
    | suggesting inflation would continue to subside and allow
    | the Federal Reserve to start cutting interest rates this
    | year.

    |
    | GDP Growth Surged for a Strong Finish to 2023
    | ... <https://www.barrons.com/articles/us-economy-gdp-growth-report-today-b9df7126>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 28 13:55:10 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. producer prices unexpectedly fell in December amid
    | declining costs for goods such as diesel fuel and food,
    | suggesting inflation would continue to subside and allow
    | the Federal Reserve to start cutting interest rates this
    | year.

    | GDP Growth Surged for a Strong Finish to 2023

    |
    | The European economy, hobbled by unfamiliar weakness in
    | Germany, is barely growing. China is struggling to
    | recapture its sizzle. And Japan continues to disappoint.
    |
    | But in the United States, it's a different story. Here,
    | despite lingering consumer angst over inflation, the
    | surprisingly strong economy is outperforming all of its
    | major trading partners.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/01/28/global-economy-gdp-inflation/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 2 13:56:37 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected
    | ... <https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/02/us-economy-added-353000-jobs-in-january-much-better-than-expected.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 2 15:02:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    There are now more jobs in manufacturing than at any point
    during the Trump presidency: <https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1753415176781549948/photo/1>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 3 00:51:49 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    |
    | The U.S. economy just keeps getting better. And it's
    | forcing Donald Trump and his allies to contort the talking
    | points they thought would guide them back to the White
    | House.
    |
    | A remarkable run of good economic news has tripped up the
    | Trump campaign's initial plans to paint President Joe Biden
    | as a disaster on the economy. Now, the GOP frontrunner is
    | grasping for new ways to attack the administration's
    | increasingly robust record.
    | ... <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/02/trump-and-his-allies-adjust-their-messaging-on-the-economy-as-it-steadily-improves-00139447>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Feb 3 10:11:48 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 15:02:51 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    There are now more jobs in manufacturing than at any point
    during the Trump presidency: ><https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1753415176781549948/photo/1>

    --bks

    You do know that manufacturing jobs generally pay lower than other
    jobs right? Tell us how that's good news.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to NoBody@nowhere.com on Sat Feb 3 15:35:13 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    ...
    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    There are now more jobs in manufacturing than at any point
    during the Trump presidency:
    ...
    You do know that manufacturing jobs generally pay lower than other
    jobs right? Tell us how that's good news.

    Maybe in your native Russia, troll, but in the USA that is
    definitely *not* the case:
    | ...
    | Manufacturing workers earn 13.0 percent more in hourly
    | compensation (wages and benefits) than comparable workers
    | earn in the rest of the private sector.
    | ... <https://www.epi.org/publication/manufacturing-still-provides-a-pay-advantage-but-outsourcing-is-eroding-it/>

    --bks

    I cite chapter and verse. My interlocutors make sh.t up.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Feb 4 12:08:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 15:35:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    ...
    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    There are now more jobs in manufacturing than at any point
    during the Trump presidency:
    ...
    You do know that manufacturing jobs generally pay lower than other
    jobs right? Tell us how that's good news.

    Maybe in your native Russia, troll, but in the USA that is
    definitely *not* the case:
    | ...
    | Manufacturing workers earn 13.0 percent more in hourly
    | compensation (wages and benefits) than comparable workers
    | earn in the rest of the private sector.
    | ...
    <https://www.epi.org/publication/manufacturing-still-provides-a-pay-advantage-but-outsourcing-is-eroding-it/>

    --bks

    I cite chapter and verse. My interlocutors make sh.t up.

    Do tell us the defintion of "comparable workers". That sounds a bit
    like gibberish. A comparable job would be manufacturing job which is
    covered in their own stat.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sun Feb 4 12:09:45 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 03 Feb 2024 21:34:04 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 15:35:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    ...
    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    There are now more jobs in manufacturing than at any point
    during the Trump presidency:
    ...
    You do know that manufacturing jobs generally pay lower than other
    jobs right? Tell us how that's good news.

    Maybe in your native Russia, troll, but in the USA that is
    definitely *not* the case:
    | ...
    | Manufacturing workers earn 13.0 percent more in hourly
    | compensation (wages and benefits) than comparable workers
    | earn in the rest of the private sector.
    | ... >><https://www.epi.org/publication/manufacturing-still-provides-a-pay-advantage-but-outsourcing-is-eroding-it/>

    --bks

    I cite chapter and verse. My interlocutors make sh.t up.

    Another example of how trolls are easy to spot because they make up false statistics.

    Blue collars have been upset since the 1970s over the loss of manufacturing jobs precisely
    because they *do* pay well but don't require extensive and costly education.

    With the exception of autoworkers I can't think of a well-paying
    manufacturing job.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to NoBody@nowhere.com on Sun Feb 4 18:09:10 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 15:35:13 -0000 (UTC) (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
    Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    ...
    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    There are now more jobs in manufacturing than at any point
    during the Trump presidency:
    ...
    You do know that manufacturing jobs generally pay lower than other
    jobs right? Tell us how that's good news.

    Maybe in your native Russia, troll, but in the USA that is
    definitely *not* the case:
    | ...
    | Manufacturing workers earn 13.0 percent more in hourly
    | compensation (wages and benefits) than comparable workers
    | earn in the rest of the private sector.
    | ... >><https://www.epi.org/publication/manufacturing-still-provides-a-pay-advantage-but-outsourcing-is-eroding-it/>
    ....
    Do tell us the defintion of "comparable workers". That sounds a bit
    like gibberish. A comparable job would be manufacturing job which is
    covered in their own stat.

    Have your masters in Moscow not explained to you how URLs work?

    --bks

    I cite chapter and verse. My interlocutors vomit bullshit.

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  • From Mr. B1ack@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Feb 4 11:05:53 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2/4/2024 9:08 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 15:35:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    ...
    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    There are now more jobs in manufacturing than at any point
    during the Trump presidency:
    ...
    You do know that manufacturing jobs generally pay lower than other
    jobs right? Tell us how that's good news.

    Maybe in your native Russia, troll, but in the USA that is
    definitely *not* the case:
    | ...
    | Manufacturing workers earn 13.0 percent more in hourly
    | compensation (wages and benefits) than comparable workers
    | earn in the rest of the private sector.
    | ...
    <https://www.epi.org/publication/manufacturing-still-provides-a-pay-advantage-but-outsourcing-is-eroding-it/>

    --bks

    I cite chapter and verse. My interlocutors make sh.t up.

    Do tell us the defintion [sic] of "comparable workers".

    It's simple, you fucking bonehead. It's someone with a comparable length of experience and amount of training. The amount of training required to be a nurse
    assistant or to be an automobile assembly line worker is about the same. An assembly line worker with 10 years experience earns more than the nurse assistant with the same amount of experience. Duh!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 7 12:42:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    |
    | The IRS is poised to take in hundreds of billions of
    | dollars more in overdue and unpaid taxes than previously
    | anticipated, according to new analysis released Tuesday by
    | the Treasury Department and the IRS.
    |
    | Tax revenues are expected to rise by as much as $561
    | billion from 2024 to 2034, thanks to stepped-up enforcement
    | made possible with money from the Democrats' Inflation
    | Reduction Act, which became law in August 2022.
    | ... <https://apnews.com/article/irs-tax-gap-audits-inflation-reduction-act-e0dcb9bc52cfcdd8fc40caa2c04e8011>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed Feb 7 13:50:03 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:upvtrm$kc1$4@reader1.panix.com:

    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    |
    | The IRS is poised to take in hundreds of billions of
    | dollars more in overdue and unpaid taxes than previously
    | anticipated, according to new analysis released Tuesday by
    | the Treasury Department and the IRS.
    |
    | Tax revenues are expected to rise by as much as $561
    | billion from 2024 to 2034, thanks to stepped-up enforcement
    | made possible with money from the Democrats' Inflation
    | Reduction Act, which became law in August 2022.
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/irs-tax-gap-audits-inflation-reduction-act- e0dcb9bc52cfcdd8fc40caa2c04e8011>

    --bks



    Enforce immigration laws!

    (Republicans applaud)

    Enforce drup laws!

    (Republicans applaud)

    Enforce tax laws!

    (Republicans: hold on a minute there...)

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 8 13:36:26 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    | The IRS is poised to take in hundreds of billions of
    | dollars more in overdue and unpaid taxes than previously
    | anticipated, according to new analysis released Tuesday by
    | the Treasury Department and the IRS.

    |
    | US Trade Deficit With China Narrows to Lowest Since 2010
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-07/us-trade-deficit-with-china-narrows-to-lowest-level-since-2010>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Thu Feb 8 14:44:58 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:uq2lcq$c3m$2@reader1.panix.com:


    | U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, much better
    | than expected

    | The IRS is poised to take in hundreds of billions of
    | dollars more in overdue and unpaid taxes than previously
    | anticipated, according to new analysis released Tuesday by
    | the Treasury Department and the IRS.

    |
    | US Trade Deficit With China Narrows to Lowest Since 2010
    | ...
    <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-07/us-trade-deficit-wi th-china-narrows-to-lowest-level-since-2010>

    --bks



    More proof of Biden destroying America,
    according to the Trumpists here.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 17:18:47 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | How U.S. Pressure Helped Save Brazil's Democracy
    |
    | Mounting evidence suggests Biden kept pro-Bolsonaro
    | generals from executing a coup.
    | ... <https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/02/20/brazil-bolsonaro-coup-us-biden-democracy-election-chips-lula/>

    --bks

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sat Feb 24 02:53:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:ur7vln$3hs$4@reader1.panix.com:

    |
    | How U.S. Pressure Helped Save Brazil's Democracy
    |
    | Mounting evidence suggests Biden kept pro-Bolsonaro
    | generals from executing a coup.
    | ...
    <https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/02/20/brazil-bolsonaro-coup-us-biden-de mocracy-election-chips-lula/>

    --bks



    Biden is old enough to remember the
    coups in Chile and Argentina. Trump was
    too busy banging co-eds to notice.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat Feb 24 03:36:15 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2024-02-24, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:ur7vln$3hs$4@reader1.panix.com:

    |
    | How U.S. Pressure Helped Save Brazil's Democracy
    |
    | Mounting evidence suggests Biden kept pro-Bolsonaro
    | generals from executing a coup.
    | ...
    <https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/02/20/brazil-bolsonaro-coup-us-biden-de
    mocracy-election-chips-lula/>

    --bks



    Biden is old enough to remember the
    coups in Chile and Argentina. Trump was
    too busy banging co-eds to notice.

    Was that during the same time period that Joe Biden was taking showers with his teen daughter
    Ashley?
    Asking for a friend.



    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From 61h.1601@21:1/5 to pothead on Sat Feb 24 14:22:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2/23/24 10:36 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-24, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
    news:ur7vln$3hs$4@reader1.panix.com:

    |
    | How U.S. Pressure Helped Save Brazil's Democracy
    |
    | Mounting evidence suggests Biden kept pro-Bolsonaro
    | generals from executing a coup.
    | ...
    <https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/02/20/brazil-bolsonaro-coup-us-biden-de
    mocracy-election-chips-lula/>

    --bks



    Biden is old enough to remember the
    coups in Chile and Argentina. Trump was
    too busy banging co-eds to notice.

    Was that during the same time period that Joe Biden was taking showers with his teen daughter
    Ashley?


    Well, they ARE "liberals" after all :-)

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 1 14:20:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | 2023 was a tumultuous year for the United States economy.
    | Consumers dealt with pain points from inflation and high
    | gas prices to increased interest rates. Despite these
    | headwinds, the country's clean energy economy surged thanks
    | to President Biden's Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) and
    | growing demand for clean energy technologies, which added
    | nearly $100 billion in new investment and more than 80,000
    | new jobs.
    | ... <https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2023/12/26/in-2023-the-united-states-started-building-big-again-thanks-to-bidens-inflation-reduction-act/>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 9 15:31:30 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | Costco says it's actually cutting prices on some products
    | as inflation stabilizes
    | ... <https://www.businessinsider.com/costco-cuts-prices-on-berries-batteries-as-inflation-slows-2024-3>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 9 17:18:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | Costco says it's actually cutting prices on some products
    | as inflation stabilizes

    | ...
    | Walmart Chief Executive Doug McMillon's most recent
    | comments validate what Biden's administration has been
    | saying about the state of the economy. And they contrast
    | with the economic picture being painted by Republicans in
    | support of their presumptive nominee, Donald Trump.
    | ...
    | During Walmart's fiscal-fourth-quarter-earnings call,
    | McMillon was clear that prices are going down.
    | ... <https://www.thestreet.com/retail/walmart-has-really-good-news-for-shoppers-and-joe-biden>

    --bks

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sun Mar 10 12:49:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:31:30 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | Costco says it's actually cutting prices on some products
    | as inflation stabilizes
    | ...
    <https://www.businessinsider.com/costco-cuts-prices-on-berries-batteries-as-inflation-slows-2024-3>

    --bks


    You mean they're reducing some of the overinflated prices but they're
    still way over what they were three years ago? Fantastic news...

    <eyeroll>

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sun Mar 10 12:52:46 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:13:18 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | Costco says it's actually cutting prices on some products
    | as inflation stabilizes

    | ...
    | Walmart Chief Executive Doug McMillon's most recent
    | comments validate what Biden's administration has been
    | saying about the state of the economy. And they contrast
    | with the economic picture being painted by Republicans in
    | support of their presumptive nominee, Donald Trump.
    | ...
    | During Walmart's fiscal-fourth-quarter-earnings call,
    | McMillon was clear that prices are going down.
    | ... >><https://www.thestreet.com/retail/walmart-has-really-good-news-for-shoppers-and-joe-biden>

    --bks

    ""Our general merchandise prices are lower than a year ago and even two years ago in some
    categories, which means our customers are finding value in areas like apparel and hard
    lines," he said. "In food, prices are lower than a year ago in places like eggs, apples,
    and deli snacks, but higher in other places like asparagus and blackberries.""

    One reason produce is up is because of the shortage of migrant labor in Florida.

    Swill

    Egg prices:

    2020 $2.52
    2024 $3.43 up 36%

    Great leadership!

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Mar 10 13:06:03 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/10/2024 12:52 PM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:13:18 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | Costco says it's actually cutting prices on some products
    | as inflation stabilizes

    | ...
    | Walmart Chief Executive Doug McMillon's most recent
    | comments validate what Biden's administration has been
    | saying about the state of the economy. And they contrast
    | with the economic picture being painted by Republicans in
    | support of their presumptive nominee, Donald Trump.
    | ...
    | During Walmart's fiscal-fourth-quarter-earnings call,
    | McMillon was clear that prices are going down.
    | ...
    <https://www.thestreet.com/retail/walmart-has-really-good-news-for-shoppers-and-joe-biden>

    --bks

    ""Our general merchandise prices are lower than a year ago and even two years ago in some
    categories, which means our customers are finding value in areas like apparel and hard
    lines," he said. "In food, prices are lower than a year ago in places like eggs, apples,
    and deli snacks, but higher in other places like asparagus and blackberries.""

    One reason produce is up is because of the shortage of migrant labor in Florida.

    Swill

    Egg prices:

    2020 $2.52
    2024 $3.43 up 36%

    Great leadership!

    Yeah...but....but...but...Trump!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Yak on Sun Mar 10 17:17:50 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2024-03-10, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
    On 3/10/2024 12:52 PM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:13:18 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | Costco says it's actually cutting prices on some products
    | as inflation stabilizes

    | ...
    | Walmart Chief Executive Doug McMillon's most recent
    | comments validate what Biden's administration has been
    | saying about the state of the economy. And they contrast
    | with the economic picture being painted by Republicans in
    | support of their presumptive nominee, Donald Trump.
    | ...
    | During Walmart's fiscal-fourth-quarter-earnings call,
    | McMillon was clear that prices are going down.
    | ...
    <https://www.thestreet.com/retail/walmart-has-really-good-news-for-shoppers-and-joe-biden>

    --bks

    ""Our general merchandise prices are lower than a year ago and even two years ago in some
    categories, which means our customers are finding value in areas like apparel and hard
    lines," he said. "In food, prices are lower than a year ago in places like eggs, apples,
    and deli snacks, but higher in other places like asparagus and blackberries.""

    One reason produce is up is because of the shortage of migrant labor in Florida.

    Swill

    Egg prices:

    2020 $2.52
    2024 $3.43 up 36%

    Great leadership!

    Yeah...but....but...but...Trump!

    Trump's entire campaign platform could consist of one sentence:

    "are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?".


    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Mar 10 23:57:08 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 2024-03-10, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 17:17:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2024-03-10, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
    On 3/10/2024 12:52 PM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:13:18 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | Costco says it's actually cutting prices on some products
    | as inflation stabilizes

    | ...
    | Walmart Chief Executive Doug McMillon's most recent
    | comments validate what Biden's administration has been
    | saying about the state of the economy. And they contrast
    | with the economic picture being painted by Republicans in
    | support of their presumptive nominee, Donald Trump.
    | ...
    | During Walmart's fiscal-fourth-quarter-earnings call,
    | McMillon was clear that prices are going down.
    | ...
    <https://www.thestreet.com/retail/walmart-has-really-good-news-for-shoppers-and-joe-biden>

    --bks

    ""Our general merchandise prices are lower than a year ago and even two years ago in some
    categories, which means our customers are finding value in areas like apparel and hard
    lines," he said. "In food, prices are lower than a year ago in places like eggs, apples,
    and deli snacks, but higher in other places like asparagus and blackberries.""

    One reason produce is up is because of the shortage of migrant labor in Florida.

    Swill

    Egg prices:

    2020 $2.52
    2024 $3.43 up 36%

    Great leadership!

    Yeah...but....but...but...Trump!

    Trump's entire campaign platform could consist of one sentence:

    "are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?".

    I am, actually.

    Swill

    Good for you.
    Most folks are not.


    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From 67hx.1803@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Mar 11 02:17:33 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/10/24 7:57 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 17:17:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2024-03-10, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
    On 3/10/2024 12:52 PM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:13:18 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | Costco says it's actually cutting prices on some products
    | as inflation stabilizes

    | ...
    | Walmart Chief Executive Doug McMillon's most recent
    | comments validate what Biden's administration has been
    | saying about the state of the economy. And they contrast
    | with the economic picture being painted by Republicans in
    | support of their presumptive nominee, Donald Trump.
    | ...
    | During Walmart's fiscal-fourth-quarter-earnings call,
    | McMillon was clear that prices are going down.
    | ...
    <https://www.thestreet.com/retail/walmart-has-really-good-news-for-shoppers-and-joe-biden>

    --bks

    ""Our general merchandise prices are lower than a year ago and even two years ago in some
    categories, which means our customers are finding value in areas like apparel and hard
    lines," he said. "In food, prices are lower than a year ago in places like eggs, apples,
    and deli snacks, but higher in other places like asparagus and blackberries.""

    One reason produce is up is because of the shortage of migrant labor in Florida.

    Swill

    Egg prices:

    2020 $2.52
    2024 $3.43 up 36%

    Great leadership!

    Yeah...but....but...but...Trump!

    Trump's entire campaign platform could consist of one sentence:

    "are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?".

    I am, actually.

    Swill

    Good for you.
    Most folks are not.

    Note, news today, the Walton clan just sold off
    a huge amount of stock - as did Bezos and several
    others. They know some shit is coming. Joe's
    FakeEconomy can't last forever.

    Fear not - we've seen all this before. The secret
    is DON'T PANIC. Corps and stocks and even banks
    may suffer notable losses - but in a few years
    they're back and bigger than ever. Those who PANIC
    lose big. I knew some otherwise-intelligent people
    who seriously cashed-out of the stock market back
    during the last Thing - and had to pay TAXES on
    all that. Two years later though ... they were poor
    and those with courage were richer than before.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Nomen Nescio@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Mar 10 23:37:55 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 3/10/2024 4:57 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-03-10, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 17:17:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2024-03-10, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
    On 3/10/2024 12:52 PM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:13:18 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | Costco says it's actually cutting prices on some products
    | as inflation stabilizes

    | ...
    | Walmart Chief Executive Doug McMillon's most recent
    | comments validate what Biden's administration has been
    | saying about the state of the economy. And they contrast
    | with the economic picture being painted by Republicans in
    | support of their presumptive nominee, Donald Trump.
    | ...
    | During Walmart's fiscal-fourth-quarter-earnings call,
    | McMillon was clear that prices are going down.
    | ...
    <https://www.thestreet.com/retail/walmart-has-really-good-news-for-shoppers-and-joe-biden>

    --bks

    ""Our general merchandise prices are lower than a year ago and even two years ago in some
    categories, which means our customers are finding value in areas like apparel and hard
    lines," he said. "In food, prices are lower than a year ago in places like eggs, apples,
    and deli snacks, but higher in other places like asparagus and blackberries.""

    One reason produce is up is because of the shortage of migrant labor in Florida.

    Swill

    Egg prices:

    2020 $2.52
    2024 $3.43 up 36%

    Great leadership!

    Yeah...but....but...but...Trump!

    Trump's entire campaign platform could consist of one sentence:

    "are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?".

    I am, actually.

    Swill

    Good for you.
    Most folks are not.

    Most folks are, little person.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Mon Mar 11 07:11:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:28:45 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 17:17:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2024-03-10, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
    On 3/10/2024 12:52 PM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:13:18 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:18:42 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | Costco says it's actually cutting prices on some products
    | as inflation stabilizes

    | ...
    | Walmart Chief Executive Doug McMillon's most recent
    | comments validate what Biden's administration has been
    | saying about the state of the economy. And they contrast
    | with the economic picture being painted by Republicans in
    | support of their presumptive nominee, Donald Trump.
    | ...
    | During Walmart's fiscal-fourth-quarter-earnings call,
    | McMillon was clear that prices are going down.
    | ...
    <https://www.thestreet.com/retail/walmart-has-really-good-news-for-shoppers-and-joe-biden>

    --bks

    ""Our general merchandise prices are lower than a year ago and even two years ago in some
    categories, which means our customers are finding value in areas like apparel and hard
    lines," he said. "In food, prices are lower than a year ago in places like eggs, apples,
    and deli snacks, but higher in other places like asparagus and blackberries.""

    One reason produce is up is because of the shortage of migrant labor in Florida.

    Swill

    Egg prices:

    2020 $2.52
    2024 $3.43 up 36%

    Great leadership!

    Yeah...but....but...but...Trump!

    Trump's entire campaign platform could consist of one sentence:

    "are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?".

    I am, actually.

    Swill

    If you are because of actions you took then great. This of course has
    nothing to do with actual cost of living.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 21:42:13 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | JPMORGAN: ".. the US has achieved US energy independence
    | for the first time in 40 years while Europe and China
    | compete for global energy resources."
    | ...
    <https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1765908327639179307>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 19 18:30:39 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | New FBI data confirms previous indications that crime in
    | the U.S. declined significantly in 2023, continuing a
    | post-pandemic trend and belying widespread perceptions that
    | crime is rising.
    | ... <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/us-crime-rate-still-dropping-says-fbi-rcna144100>

    --bks

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 28 19:11:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | New FBI data confirms previous indications that crime in
    | the U.S. declined significantly in 2023, continuing a
    | post-pandemic trend and belying widespread perceptions that
    | crime is rising.

    |
    | US Consumer Sentiment Jumps to Highest Level Since July 2021
    |
    | o University of Michigan final March index rose to 79.4
    | o Long-run inflation views eased to 2.8%, lowest since
    | September
    | ... <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-28/us-consumer-sentiment-jumps-to-highest-level-since-july-2021>

    --bks

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 12:23:14 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | New FBI data confirms previous indications that crime in
    | the U.S. declined significantly in 2023, continuing a
    | post-pandemic trend and belying widespread perceptions that
    | crime is rising.

    |
    | Trump falsely claims US crime stats are only going up. Most
    | went down last year, including massive drop in murder
    | ... <https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/03/politics/fact-check-trump-falsely-claims-us-crime-stats-are-only-going-up-most-went-down-last-year-including-massive-drop-in-murder/index.html>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 5 14:14:56 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/d536f588-a307-4c89-9ae6-1f53686ae347>

    --bks

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Fri Apr 5 17:50:56 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:uup110$ice$1 @reader1.panix.com:

    |
    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/d536f588-a307-4c89-9ae6-1f53686ae347>

    --bks



    "But....but.....Hunter's laptop!"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 5 23:54:52 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations

    |
    | US economy has Wall Street 'borderline speechless' after
    | blowout March jobs report
    | ... <https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-economy-has-wall-street-borderline-speechless-after-blowout-march-jobs-report-175409776.html>

    --bks

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Sat Apr 6 09:23:53 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 14:14:56 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/d536f588-a307-4c89-9ae6-1f53686ae347>

    --bks

    And you actually believe this nonsense.

    Laugh.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Apr 6 11:19:56 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/6/2024 6:23 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 14:14:56 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/d536f588-a307-4c89-9ae6-1f53686ae347>

    --bks

    And you actually believe this nonsense.

    The BLS numbers are real. The jobs growth is real. You don't have to give Biden credit for it if you don't want to, but there is no disputing the numbers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Apr 6 18:30:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:crq21jtp09v35gc3rm0nrav9dbediobeun@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 23:54:52 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | US economy has Wall Street 'borderline speechless' after
    | blowout March jobs report
    | ... >><https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-economy-has-wall-street-borderline-s >>peechless-after-blowout-march-jobs-report-175409776.html>

    "The unemployment rate fell to 3.8%, hovering near a historically low
    level, while the percentage of Americans participating in the
    workforce increased."

    The unemployment rate went down, the participation rate went up.

    Remember during Obama when the right bitched about the falling
    participation rate all the time?


    "Never mind that jobs report, what
    about that tan suit? Outrage!"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Apr 7 09:12:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Sat, 06 Apr 2024 09:23:53 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 14:14:56 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations
    | ...
    <https://www.ft.com/content/d536f588-a307-4c89-9ae6-1f53686ae347>

    --bks

    And you actually believe this nonsense.

    Laugh.

    And Bradley is gone (again).

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 13:38:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations

    |
    | Number of homicides plummets in major U.S. cities
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2024/04/16/homicide-rate-us-voters-trump>

    --bks

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 15:20:52 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations

    | Number of homicides plummets in major U.S. cities

    The U.S. is on track to grow at double the rate of any other G7
    country this year, according to IMF forecasts, as the strength
    of the world's biggest economy rocks global markets.

    <https://www.ft.com/content/3b819571-662d-4185-9ca5-c7e682b55700>

    --bks

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 16 17:38:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:uvm50k$8a7$2 @reader1.panix.com:

    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations

    | Number of homicides plummets in major U.S. cities

    The U.S. is on track to grow at double the rate of any other G7
    country this year, according to IMF forecasts, as the strength
    of the world's biggest economy rocks global markets.

    <https://www.ft.com/content/3b819571-662d-4185-9ca5-c7e682b55700>

    --bks


    "but...but....Hunter Bidens laptop!"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lil-man-ball@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue Apr 16 11:53:12 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 17:38:06 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:


    --bks


    "but...but....Hunter Bidens laptop!"


    You into straight porn?

    Who knew?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lil-man-ball@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue Apr 16 14:53:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 17:38:06 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:

    "but...but....Hunter Bidens laptop!"


    Yer such a pedofucker.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lil-man-ball@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 16 14:54:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 15:20:52 -0000 (UTC)
    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    The U.S. is on track to grow at double the rate of any other G7

    No it's not.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Apr 17 07:14:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 13:38:09 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations

    |
    | Number of homicides plummets in major U.S. cities
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2024/04/16/homicide-rate-us-voters-trump>

    --bks

    The first words of your cite: "Estimated from city police department
    reports, state reports or the press". This means they guessed based
    on self-reported data.

    Get back to us when you have actual data to show us.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Max Boot@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Apr 17 07:57:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/17/2024 4:14 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 13:38:09 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | US jobs growth of 303,000 far outstrips expectations

    |
    | Number of homicides plummets in major U.S. cities
    | ...
    <https://www.axios.com/2024/04/16/homicide-rate-us-voters-trump>

    --bks

    The first words of your cite: "Estimated from city police department
    reports, state reports or the press". This means they guessed based
    on self-reported data.

    That's the same data your side cites when crime appears to be rising. You can't have it both ways.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Apr 17 07:22:27 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    NoBody wrote:
    The first words of your cite: "Estimated from city police department
    reports, state reports or the press". This means they guessed based
    on self-reported data.

    Is the statistic collecting consistent over time?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lil-man-ball@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Apr 17 09:28:37 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 23:33:14 -0400
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    Tell the Financial Times


    Poor Phil Hendry/tRudy Canoza, he wanted all the notoriety the late Art
    Bell had in the fringe radio market, but everyone hated him for his manipulative voice-overs of characters that existed only in his
    tortured mind.

    In essence tRudy used Phil's functional mental illness as a proxy for
    his own decrepit schizophrenia and MPD.

    Bit of a case of life imitating art, this one is...

    Well sheeitburgers from Suckramento...here he goes again!

    It's another tRudy sock up:

    From: Robert Youngdale <another.jaques@idiot>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com



    From: Wayne Autrey <another.loser@terrells.pals>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: Eunice Wunderlich <some_whore@starkville.cemetery.con>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: Don Shepler <wieber.associate@shitbags.united>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: "T. Howard Pines, Jr." <al.lohman@kfi.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: Fred J McCall <fjmc_call@gmail.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: "Fred C. Dobbs" <treasure@sierramadre.con>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: "T. Howard Pines, Jr." <al.lohman@kfi.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    From: Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com>
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.corn>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
    X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com

    From: Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con>
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com



    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    From: Rudy Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con>
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com



    Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com

    Now tRudy, can you fire up your Gunner Asch sock too?

    You pathetic slithering traitor to America.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lil-man-ball@21:1/5 to Max Boot on Wed Apr 17 09:32:01 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 07:57:09 -0700
    Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> wrote:

    You can't
    have it both ways.


    Poor Phil Hendry/tRudy Canoza, he wanted all the notoriety the late Art
    Bell had in the fringe radio market, but everyone hated him for his manipulative voice-overs of characters that existed only in his
    tortured mind.

    In essence tRudy used Phil's functional mental illness as a proxy for
    his own decrepit schizophrenia and MPD.

    Bit of a case of life imitating art, this one is...

    Well sheeitburgers from Suckramento...here he goes again!

    It's another tRudy sock up:

    From: Derek Nash <derekknish@outlooky.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com



    From: Robert Youngdale <another.jaques@idiot>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com



    From: Wayne Autrey <another.loser@terrells.pals>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: Eunice Wunderlich <some_whore@starkville.cemetery.con>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: Don Shepler <wieber.associate@shitbags.united>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: "T. Howard Pines, Jr." <al.lohman@kfi.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: Fred J McCall <fjmc_call@gmail.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: "Fred C. Dobbs" <treasure@sierramadre.con>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: "T. Howard Pines, Jr." <al.lohman@kfi.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    From: Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com>
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.corn>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
    X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com


    From: "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com

    From: Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con>
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com



    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    From: Rudy Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con>
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com



    Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com

    Now tRudy, can you fire up your Gunner Asch sock too?

    You pathetic slithering traitor to America.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lil-man-ball@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Wed Apr 17 09:43:58 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 07:22:27 -0700
    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    The first words of your cite: "Estimated from city police department reports, state reports or the press". This means they guessed based
    on self-reported data.

    Is the statistic collecting consistent over time?


    Are your blow jobs?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lil-man-ball@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Apr 17 16:36:12 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 17:15:11 -0400
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    she didn't make that complaint

    https://tenor.com/view/barking-fighting-nope-see-ya-bye-gif-15625472

    Poor Phil Hendry/tRudy Canoza, he wanted all the notoriety the late Art
    Bell had in the fringe radio market, but everyone hated him for his manipulative voice-overs of characters that existed only in his
    tortured mind.

    In essence tRudy used Phil's functional mental illness as a proxy for
    his own decrepit schizophrenia and MPD.

    Bit of a case of life imitating art, this one is...

    Well sheeitburgers from Suckramento...here he goes again!

    It's another tRudy sock up:


    From: Salty Stan <wsjames123n@gmail.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com



    From: Jerry Buchanan <some.fucking.terrell.pal@douchebags.r.us>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
    Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com



    From: Derek Nash <derekknish@outlooky.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
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    From: Robert Youngdale <another.jaques@idiot>
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    Now tRudy, can you fire up your Gunner Asch sock too?

    You pathetic slithering traitor to America.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com on Thu Apr 18 07:16:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 07:22:27 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    The first words of your cite: "Estimated from city police department
    reports, state reports or the press". This means they guessed based
    on self-reported data.

    Is the statistic collecting consistent over time?

    Please read what I posted again and engage your brain this time.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Apr 19 07:19:14 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:16:18 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 07:22:27 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:
    The first words of your cite: "Estimated from city police department
    reports, state reports or the press". This means they guessed based
    on self-reported data.

    Is the statistic collecting consistent over time?

    Please read what I posted again and engage your brain this time.

    And the drunk has passed out.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 30 12:59:54 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | FBI data shows America is seeing a 'considerable' drop in
    | crime.
    | ... <https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/30/trump-crime-fbi-data-murder-statistics/73443631007/>

    --bks

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 30 10:40:52 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 4/30/2024 5:59 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    |
    | FBI data shows America is seeing a 'considerable' drop in
    | crime.
    | ... <https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/30/trump-crime-fbi-data-murder-statistics/73443631007/>


    Of course, but the lying right-wingnuts won't admit that. scooter, for example, lied only yesterday that "crime is up," without — of course — providing any support for it. Instead, they simply spew their lies that the FBI is "weaponized" and part of the "deep state" and can't be trusted.

    The FBI is a reliable law enforcement agency that collects and publishes accurate data.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 16 11:45:47 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | FBI data shows America is seeing a 'considerable' drop in
    | crime.

    |
    | Could the US economy be doing too well?
    | ...
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd131v26dneo>

    --bks

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