• Neo-Darwinism is Dead.

    From Kalkidas@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 30 09:30:55 2024
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-U-ZB3yHK4

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 30 15:58:48 2024
    On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:30:55 -0700, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by Kalkidas <eat@joes.pub>:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-U-ZB3yHK4

    That's nice.

    I've also heard that a new non-rocket propulsion system
    (which also ignores science and evidence) will soon be
    available; some genius with the handle "calmagorod" is
    perfecting it even as we post.

    And don't forget The Amazing Nando, who converses with rocks
    (The Rock Whisperer?).

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From burkhard@21:1/5 to Kalkidas on Wed Jul 31 00:05:42 2024
    On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:30:55 +0000, Kalkidas wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-U-ZB3yHK4

    ..and Darwin was right after all?? You sure that's
    the hill you want to reincarnate on?

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 31 21:00:01 2024
    On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:44:45 -0700, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com>:

    On 7/31/24 1:20 PM, JTEM wrote:
     Bob Casanova wrote:

    I've also heard that a new non-rocket propulsion system
    (which also ignores science and evidence) will soon be
    available; some genius with the handle "calmagorod" is
    perfecting it even as we post.

    And don't forget The Amazing Nando, who converses with rocks
    (The Rock Whisperer?).

    Tee-hee!  Tee-hee!  You're so funny! And hilarious. You're
    BOTH funny & hilarious! And clever. Oh so clever, you are!
    No wonder you cower behind sock puppets; fear of all the
    groupies hunting you down!

    Darwin was a dumb cunt who plagiarized his every word and
    STILL got nearly all of it wrong. He wasn't even writing
    about "Evolution." He was writing about "Common Descent."
    And, no, he did NOT believe in "Evolution" not even after
    others fed him the word. No, he agreed 100% with those who
    would later REJECT evolution...

    You should read this fine book:

    https://www.amazon.com/Darwinism-Refutation-Myth-Soren-Lovtrup/dp/0709941536

    Plenty of ammunition there, and Løvrup was a real biologist.

    Here's a review:

    https://wasdarwinwrong.com/kortho28.htm

    You're welcome.

    And you expect this...person(?)...to actually read...why?

    <snip random babbling>

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 1 15:46:10 2024
    On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 09:41:13 -0700, the following appeared in
    talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com>:

    On 7/31/24 9:00 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:44:45 -0700, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com>:

    On 7/31/24 1:20 PM, JTEM wrote:
     Bob Casanova wrote:

    I've also heard that a new non-rocket propulsion system
    (which also ignores science and evidence) will soon be
    available; some genius with the handle "calmagorod" is
    perfecting it even as we post.

    And don't forget The Amazing Nando, who converses with rocks
    (The Rock Whisperer?).

    Tee-hee!  Tee-hee!  You're so funny! And hilarious. You're
    BOTH funny & hilarious! And clever. Oh so clever, you are!
    No wonder you cower behind sock puppets; fear of all the
    groupies hunting you down!

    Darwin was a dumb cunt who plagiarized his every word and
    STILL got nearly all of it wrong. He wasn't even writing
    about "Evolution." He was writing about "Common Descent."
    And, no, he did NOT believe in "Evolution" not even after
    others fed him the word. No, he agreed 100% with those who
    would later REJECT evolution...

    You should read this fine book:

    https://www.amazon.com/Darwinism-Refutation-Myth-Soren-Lovtrup/dp/0709941536

    Plenty of ammunition there, and Løvrup was a real biologist.

    Here's a review:

    https://wasdarwinwrong.com/kortho28.htm

    You're welcome.

    And you expect this...person(?)...to actually read...why?

    I expect nothing, but it's an interesting book that he would like,
    because it's quite wacko in just the way he is.

    Point taken. ;-)

    So it should probably be added to Chariots of the Gods, the
    Calmagorod Papers and anything written about aquatic apes or
    pyramidology on the "Light Reading for Whackos" list.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 2 09:56:20 2024
    On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 17:17:57 -0700, the following appeared in
    talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com>:

    On 8/1/24 3:46 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 09:41:13 -0700, the following appeared in
    talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com>:

    On 7/31/24 9:00 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:44:45 -0700, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com>:

    On 7/31/24 1:20 PM, JTEM wrote:
     Bob Casanova wrote:

    I've also heard that a new non-rocket propulsion system
    (which also ignores science and evidence) will soon be
    available; some genius with the handle "calmagorod" is
    perfecting it even as we post.

    And don't forget The Amazing Nando, who converses with rocks
    (The Rock Whisperer?).

    Tee-hee!  Tee-hee!  You're so funny! And hilarious. You're
    BOTH funny & hilarious! And clever. Oh so clever, you are!
    No wonder you cower behind sock puppets; fear of all the
    groupies hunting you down!

    Darwin was a dumb cunt who plagiarized his every word and
    STILL got nearly all of it wrong. He wasn't even writing
    about "Evolution." He was writing about "Common Descent."
    And, no, he did NOT believe in "Evolution" not even after
    others fed him the word. No, he agreed 100% with those who
    would later REJECT evolution...

    You should read this fine book:

    https://www.amazon.com/Darwinism-Refutation-Myth-Soren-Lovtrup/dp/0709941536

    Plenty of ammunition there, and Løvrup was a real biologist.

    Here's a review:

    https://wasdarwinwrong.com/kortho28.htm

    You're welcome.

    And you expect this...person(?)...to actually read...why?

    I expect nothing, but it's an interesting book that he would like,
    because it's quite wacko in just the way he is.

    Point taken. ;-)

    So it should probably be added to Chariots of the Gods, the
    Calmagorod Papers and anything written about aquatic apes or
    pyramidology on the "Light Reading for Whackos" list.

    It's actually worth a read if you're interested in evolutionary theory.
    The first half is just history of science from a personal hatred of
    Darwin, but the second half is an attempt to come up with a theory of >evolutionary process that's more predictive than natural selection. It's >crazy, but in a way that could inspire thought.

    Thanks for the info. I took a look, but $55, while not out
    of line for a niche-market book, even used, is more than I'm
    willing to spend. I did read the review by Gert Korthof, and
    from his comments it appears that the book is basically an
    argument against natural selection as the be-all of
    evolutionary theory, which is (I believe) an idea which
    isn't that far from the mainstream, since unless I'm
    mistaken the ToE, like all scientific theories, is a work in
    progress, and what was true yesterday will almost certainly
    be different tomorrow. Of course, that's it's strength, that
    "settles science" is at best disingenuous, and at worst
    dogma

    Anyway, thanks again for the info.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 2 13:07:19 2024
    On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 10:15:11 -0700, the following appeared in
    talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com>:

    On 8/2/24 9:56 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 17:17:57 -0700, the following appeared in
    talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com>:

    On 8/1/24 3:46 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 09:41:13 -0700, the following appeared in
    talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com>:

    On 7/31/24 9:00 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:44:45 -0700, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com>:

    On 7/31/24 1:20 PM, JTEM wrote:
     Bob Casanova wrote:

    I've also heard that a new non-rocket propulsion system
    (which also ignores science and evidence) will soon be
    available; some genius with the handle "calmagorod" is
    perfecting it even as we post.

    And don't forget The Amazing Nando, who converses with rocks >>>>>>>>> (The Rock Whisperer?).

    Tee-hee!  Tee-hee!  You're so funny! And hilarious. You're
    BOTH funny & hilarious! And clever. Oh so clever, you are!
    No wonder you cower behind sock puppets; fear of all the
    groupies hunting you down!

    Darwin was a dumb cunt who plagiarized his every word and
    STILL got nearly all of it wrong. He wasn't even writing
    about "Evolution." He was writing about "Common Descent."
    And, no, he did NOT believe in "Evolution" not even after
    others fed him the word. No, he agreed 100% with those who
    would later REJECT evolution...

    You should read this fine book:

    https://www.amazon.com/Darwinism-Refutation-Myth-Soren-Lovtrup/dp/0709941536

    Plenty of ammunition there, and Løvrup was a real biologist.

    Here's a review:

    https://wasdarwinwrong.com/kortho28.htm

    You're welcome.

    And you expect this...person(?)...to actually read...why?

    I expect nothing, but it's an interesting book that he would like,
    because it's quite wacko in just the way he is.

    Point taken. ;-)

    So it should probably be added to Chariots of the Gods, the
    Calmagorod Papers and anything written about aquatic apes or
    pyramidology on the "Light Reading for Whackos" list.

    It's actually worth a read if you're interested in evolutionary theory.
    The first half is just history of science from a personal hatred of
    Darwin, but the second half is an attempt to come up with a theory of
    evolutionary process that's more predictive than natural selection. It's >>> crazy, but in a way that could inspire thought.

    Thanks for the info. I took a look, but $55, while not out
    of line for a niche-market book, even used, is more than I'm
    willing to spend.

    This is why we have libraries. Dunno if you have a major university near
    you, but if so it's fairly likely they might have a copy.

    ASU has campuses in various places, the nearest (~25 miles)
    in Tempe, but it's not very convenient and I'm pretty sure
    it's only for current students and faculty.

    I did read the review by Gert Korthof, and
    from his comments it appears that the book is basically an
    argument against natural selection as the be-all of
    evolutionary theory, which is (I believe) an idea which
    isn't that far from the mainstream, since unless I'm
    mistaken the ToE, like all scientific theories, is a work in
    progress, and what was true yesterday will almost certainly
    be different tomorrow. Of course, that's it's strength, that
    "settles science" is at best disingenuous, and at worst
    dogma

    Løvtrup goes a bit farther than arguing against natural selection. He
    tries to generate some laws of macroevolution, and that's an interesting
    if failed attempt.

    OK.

    Anyway, thanks again for the info.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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