On 4/7/2024 11:29 AM, panther2020 wrote:
Rob Gargett notes that even if you try to draw a more humanized
Neanderthal with the eyes and nose as large as the bones inicate they
would have to be, what you get is still outlandish:
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Do you have some point that you want to make? We have sequenced
Neanderthal genomes and we know just how closely related they are to
Modern Humans. We know that we interbred with Neanderthal and that you
likely have a couple percent Neanderthal DNA in your genome if you are descended from the modern humans that made it out of Africa around 60 to
80 thousand years ago. We are much more closely related to Neanderthal
and Denisovans than chimps are to bonobos. We split off from
Neanderthals and Denisovans only around 500,000 to 800,000 years ago
while chimps split from Bonobos around 3 million years ago.
My take is that they have the nose wrong. Neanderthal were Ice Age
survivors. I never agreed with the way that the Neanderthal noses were depicted. Humans adapted to arctic conditions have small flat noses,
probably because something sticking out is likely to be frozen off. The
extra large nasal opening that Neanderthals have likely supported highly vascularized nasal tissue that probably warmed the nose and the air that
was breathed in, so most of what was considered to be the nose was in
this nasal cavity. That tissue likely kept the brain warmer when they
breathed in through their noses during glacial intervals. The nose
would have been flatter and most of the nasal structure may have been
deeper into the skull than in extant humans. Neanderthals had survived
7 or 8 glacial periods before they went extinct.
Ron Okimoto
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