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  • Re: Neanderthal skull, Ape's profile...

    From Richmond@21:1/5 to panther2020@vivaldi.net on Thu Apr 4 15:11:57 2024
    panther2020 <panther2020@vivaldi.net> writes:

    Add this to your perfect fit collection, this seems to be the first
    thing Danny Vendramini noticed when studying Neanderthals:

    https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-57b93009d27a341ed19e172c9ad3d5d9-lq


    As I mentioned, the Neanderthal was a very advanced bipedal ape with
    dark world eyes and a fur coat. In fact early human needles are
    common but nbobody has ever found a Neanderthal needle. A creaturre
    with a fur coat does not require needles....

    Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?

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  • From panther2020@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 09:04:23 2024
    Add this to your perfect fit collection, this seems to be the first
    thing Danny Vendramini noticed when studying Neanderthals:

    https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-57b93009d27a341ed19e172c9ad3d5d9-lq


    As I mentioned, the Neanderthal was a very advanced bipedal ape with
    dark world eyes and a fur coat. In fact early human needles are common
    but nbobody has ever found a Neanderthal needle. A creaturre with a fur
    coat does not require needles....

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  • From Ernest Major@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 16:05:20 2024
    On 04/04/2024 15:04, panther2020 wrote:

    Add this to your perfect fit collection, this seems to be the first
    thing Danny Vendramini noticed when studying Neanderthals:

    https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-57b93009d27a341ed19e172c9ad3d5d9-lq


    As I mentioned, the Neanderthal was a very advanced bipedal ape with
    dark world eyes and a fur coat.  In fact early human needles are common
    but nbobody has ever found a Neanderthal needle.  A creaturre with a fur coat does not require needles....


    Why does a creature with a fur coat require leather processing tools?

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1302730110

    The web tells me that Neandertals did produce clothing, but they laced
    it together rather than sewed it together.

    There's a report of a 50,000 year old needle from the Denisova Cave. I
    haven't found a detailed report, but it's suggested that it's associated
    with Denisovan occupancy (that cave has been occupied at different times
    by Neandertals, Denisovans and modern humans, and includes skeletal
    remains from a first generation Neandertal/Denisovan hybrid).
    (Denisovans are more closely related to Neadertals than either are to
    modern humans. Denisovan ancestry can found in many human populations in
    east Asia and Australasia.)

    "Early" human needles also appear to mostly postdate Neandertal extinction.

    --
    alias Ernest Major

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  • From panther2020@21:1/5 to Richmond on Thu Apr 4 11:58:32 2024
    On 4/4/24 09:11, Richmond wrote:

    Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?


    Even a very advanced ape is still an ape, and apes do not wear shoes.

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  • From panther2020@21:1/5 to Ernest Major on Thu Apr 4 12:33:59 2024
    On 4/4/24 10:05, Ernest Major wrote:


    Why does a creature with a fur coat require leather processing tools?
    He doesn't, i.e. your source is a bunch of BS (bad science), My guess
    would be that the only thing Neanderthals ever did with hides was singe
    the furr off them and then eat them.

    Nothing to say about Neanderthal skulls being perfect fits for apes' profiles???

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  • From Ernest Major@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 22:04:23 2024
    On 04/04/2024 18:33, panther2020 wrote:
    On 4/4/24 10:05, Ernest Major wrote:


    Why does a creature with a fur coat require leather processing tools?
    He doesn't, i.e. your source is a bunch of BS (bad science),  My guess
    would be that the only thing Neanderthals ever did with hides was singe
    the furr off them and then eat them.

    And I think that your position is BS (bad science) (e.g. the BS claim
    that the Neandertal genome is close to the chimpanzee genome than to the
    modern human genome); scarcely better than the hypothesis that humans
    are hybrids of chimpanzees and pigs. Dismissing evidence that doesn't
    fit your hypothesis is not to the way to find the truth - if you want to
    be taken seriously you have to address it.


    Nothing to say about Neanderthal skulls being perfect fits for apes' profiles???


    Only that you've been hoodwinked. The Neandertal skull has been rotated backwards and rescaled to make it fit the chimpanzee profile.

    How does a Neandertal brain well over 3 times the size of a chimpanzee's
    fit inside the ape's profile?

    There's plenty of skeletal evidence that the genus Homo as a whole
    (never mind other hominins) are bipedal. Part of this evidence is the
    position of the foramen magnum, which is in the same position in
    Neandertals as in modern humans, and different from the position in
    quadripedal apes. Neandertals have brow ridges; modern humans don't.
    That's an awfully thin foundation to support your weight of speculation.

    Neandertal skulls look like modern human skulls, not chimpanzee skulls.

    https://www.pinterest.com.mx/pin/530510031096724012/

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/f7/1b/95f71b2f16140fcf40c3e24fa2cfe040.jpg

    Nothing to say about the Denisova Cave needle?

    --
    alias Ernest Major

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  • From RonO@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 18:07:21 2024
    On 4/4/2024 9:04 AM, panther2020 wrote:

    Add this to your perfect fit collection, this seems to be the first
    thing Danny Vendramini noticed when studying Neanderthals:

    https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-57b93009d27a341ed19e172c9ad3d5d9-lq


    As I mentioned, the Neanderthal was a very advanced bipedal ape with
    dark world eyes and a fur coat.  In fact early human needles are common
    but nbobody has ever found a Neanderthal needle.  A creaturre with a fur coat does not require needles....


    What a troll. What size chimp would it take to be able to have a
    Neanderthal skull size? Remember Neanderthals had larger cranial
    capacities than most extant humans. They had big heads and stout
    bodies. So what would be the size of the chimp if it had a Neanderthal
    sized skull?

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to panther2020@vivaldi.net on Fri Apr 5 09:12:11 2024
    panther2020 <panther2020@vivaldi.net> writes:

    On 4/4/24 09:11, Richmond wrote:
    Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?


    Even a very advanced ape is still an ape, and apes do not wear shoes.

    How odd that they wear fur coats but not shoes. How do they keep their
    toes warm? Socks?

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  • From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 5 09:30:30 2024
    On 2024-04-04 16:58:32 +0000, panther2020 said:

    On 4/4/24 09:11, Richmond wrote:

    Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?


    Even a very advanced ape is still an ape, and apes do not wear shoes.

    I'm an ape, as I expect you are (discarding the alternative hypothesis
    that you're a computer program -- certainly not a panther, anyway), and
    I wear shoes.

    --
    athel cb : Biochemical Evolution, Garland Science, 2016

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  • From Burkhard@21:1/5 to Robert Carnegie on Sun Apr 7 21:56:29 2024
    Robert Carnegie wrote:

    On 05/04/2024 09:12, Richmond wrote:
    panther2020 <panther2020@vivaldi.net> writes:

    On 4/4/24 09:11, Richmond wrote:
    Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?


    Even a very advanced ape is still an ape, and apes do not wear shoes.

    How odd that they wear fur coats but not shoes. How do they keep their
    toes warm? Socks?

    Fur coat, and no sneakers!

    And they died out from thirst, always being told
    "You'll Have Had Your Tea"?

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