How it works is:
1. People are under tremendous psychological pressure to do their best.
On 2/15/24 6:17 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
On Friday 16 February 2024 at 00:13:11 UTC+2, mohammad...@gmail.com wrote: >>> How it works is:Many people (often prominent) choose to believe they're doing great when
They are not. Only you seem to have tremendous mental pressure to do
1. People are under tremendous psychological pressure to do their best.
your worst. No need for anyone else to to do anything to marginalize it,
just look into mirror to see success level of that behavior from that
illustration. Of course you can choose opinion that you are doing great,
but all choosen opinions (instead of actual opinions) are lying. You are
just lying to yourself.
it's obvious they aren't. Nando clearly does.
On Friday 16 February 2024 at 00:13:11 UTC+2, mohammad...@gmail.com wrote:
How it works is:
1. People are under tremendous psychological pressure to do their best.
They are not. Only you seem to have tremendous mental pressure to do
your worst. No need for anyone else to to do anything to marginalize it, just look into mirror to see success level of that behavior from that illustration. Of course you can choose opinion that you are doing great,
but all choosen opinions (instead of actual opinions) are lying. You are just lying to yourself.
It is very obvious that throwing out the entire subjective part of
reality, would inevitably lead to catastrophe. It is not just religion
which emphasizes the importance of the subjective part of reality, a
large share of pop-songs also emphasize that.
"mohammad...@gmail.com" <mohammad...@gmail.com> writes:
It is very obvious that throwing out the entire subjective part of reality, would inevitably lead to catastrophe. It is not just religion which emphasizes the importance of the subjective part of reality, aWhat about the subject of psychology?
large share of pop-songs also emphasize that.
On 2/23/24 12:52 PM, richardcoeurdepoulet@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 14:12:56 -0800 (PST), "mohammad...@gmail.com" <mohammadnursyamsu@gmail.com> wrote:
How it works is:
1. People are under tremendous psychological pressure to do their best.
2. Due to this pressure, people start to conceive of "choosing" in terms of figuring out the best result, instead of correctly conceiving of it in terms of spontaneity (that a decision can turn out one way or another in the moment).
3. This then results in a pattern of corruption in the mind of people, of all concepts that are based on the concept of "choosing", most importantly
the concept of subjectivity becomes dysfunctional.
4. Corruption of the concept of subjectivity leads to bad personal opinions, weird ideology, and mental illness.
5. This pattern of corruption can be identified by:
* objectifying emotions and personal character (such as nazi racial science)
* exaggerated doing your best for everything, ruthless rationalization towards optimums in every aspect of life
* diminished function of conscience, because people believe themselves to be doing their best all the time, per definition of the verb "choose"
It is very obvious that throwing out the entire subjective part of reality, would inevitably lead to catastrophe. It is not just religion which emphasizes the importance of the subjective part of reality, a large
share of pop-songs also emphasize that.
It's not going to work out okay, when emotions are objectified, as being some kind of objective electro chemical processes in the brain.
Certainly the holocaust was entirely consistent with science, because it all did in fact happen. People were in fact led into gas chambers, where in fact gas was released upon them, which they then in fact breathed in, at which point they then in fact died. So that is all scientific fact.
But for the complete story there is also subjective opinion in what spirit
the decisions were made to do it all.
But of course at the time the holocaust occurred, subjectivity was ignored
by everyone, because people at that time were convinced that science demonstrated that personal character, the spirit, is objective.
So then there was no issue of choosing a personal opinion on the personal character of people who perpetrated the holocaust, because that was considered a matter for scientific fact, not a matter of chosen opinion.
There is no guarantee that learning fact & opinion would stop evil, but it would certainly stop this particular kind of evil that is related to misconceiving of choosing in terms of figuring out what is best.
1. Creator / chooses / spiritual / subjective / opinion
2. Creation / chosen / material / objective / fact
Where choosing is explained in terms of spontaneity, that a decision can turn out one way or another in the moment. And choosing is also the mechanism of creation, how a creation originates. And subjective means, identified with a chosen opinion, and objective means, identified with a model of it.
Atheists go out of their way to deny the entire subjective part of reality. So the atheist idea about the holocaust, consists just of a number of facts about what occurred, and they do not have any personal judgment on the spirit in which decisions were made.
Atheists generally reject creationism, while subjectivity is an inherently
creationist concept. When asked, atheists uniformly reject the basic logic
of subjectivity, as wordsalad nonsense.
It is very clear that atheists systematically go out of their way to marginalize subjectivity, personal judgment, and then pretend that scientific fact is all that matters.
And this is what must inevitably lead to total catastrophe.
Evolution theory is held in opposition to creationism, which means evolution science causes people to deny the entire subjective part of reality, because subjectivity is an inherently creationist concept.
Moreover, evolution science appropiates subjective terminology for science, and re-assigns the subjective words an objective meaning. Words like differential reproductive "success", and "selfish" genes. Basically the entire life cycle of oranisms is explained using all kinds of subjective terminology, in respect to this "success".
Which then obviously means that the proper subjective meaning of subjective words is replaced, with a new objective meaning. Leading to marginalization of subjectivity.
And here was I, thinking it had something to do with hatred of Jews.Don't let the "Mohammad Nyur Syamsu" fool you. He's better known as
Nando Ronteltap. He's Dutch and he speaks in tongues.
On 2/24/24 10:53 AM, WolfFan wrote:
On Feb 23, 2024, erik simpson wroteSpeaking of "nand", does anybody recall the name of the nutter with his "brains in vats" and networks of nand gates?
(in article<0bd0091b-b073-4ef9-a499-bcdcddd4b988@gmail.com>):
On 2/23/24 12:52 PM, richardcoeurdepoulet@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 14:12:56 -0800 (PST), "mohammad...@gmail.com"Don't let the "Mohammad Nyur Syamsu" fool you. He's better known as
<mohammadnursyamsu@gmail.com>Â wrote:
How it works is:
1. People are under tremendous psychological pressure to do their
best.
2. Due to this pressure, people start to conceive of "choosing" in
terms
of figuring out the best result, instead of correctly conceiving of
it in
terms of spontaneity (that a decision can turn out one way or
another in
the moment).
3. This then results in a pattern of corruption in the mind of
people, of
all concepts that are based on the concept of "choosing", most
importantly
the concept of subjectivity becomes dysfunctional.
4. Corruption of the concept of subjectivity leads to bad personal
opinions, weird ideology, and mental illness.
5. This pattern of corruption can be identified by:
* objectifying emotions and personal character (such as nazi racial
science)
* exaggerated doing your best for everything, ruthless rationalization >>>>> towards optimums in every aspect of life
* diminished function of conscience, because people believe
themselves to
be doing their best all the time, per definition of the verb "choose" >>>>>
It is very obvious that throwing out the entire subjective part of
reality, would inevitably lead to catastrophe. It is not just religion >>>>> which emphasizes the importance of the subjective part of reality,
a large
share of pop-songs also emphasize that.
It's not going to work out okay, when emotions are objectified, as
being
some kind of objective electro chemical processes in the brain.
Certainly the holocaust was entirely consistent with science,
because it
all did in fact happen. People were in fact led into gas chambers,
where
in fact gas was released upon them, which they then in fact
breathed in,
at which point they then in fact died. So that is all scientific fact. >>>>>
But for the complete story there is also subjective opinion in what
spirit
the decisions were made to do it all.
But of course at the time the holocaust occurred, subjectivity was
ignored
by everyone, because people at that time were convinced that science >>>>> demonstrated that personal character, the spirit, is objective.
So then there was no issue of choosing a personal opinion on the
personal
character of people who perpetrated the holocaust, because that was
considered a matter for scientific fact, not a matter of chosen
opinion.
There is no guarantee that learning fact &Â opinion would stop
evil, but
it would certainly stop this particular kind of evil that is
related to
misconceiving of choosing in terms of figuring out what is best.
1. Creator / chooses / spiritual / subjective / opinion
2. Creation / chosen / material / objective / fact
Where choosing is explained in terms of spontaneity, that a
decision can
turn out one way or another in the moment. And choosing is also the
mechanism of creation, how a creation originates. And subjective
means,
identified with a chosen opinion, and objective means, identified
with a
model of it.
Atheists go out of their way to deny the entire subjective part of
reality. So the atheist idea about the holocaust, consists just of a >>>>> number of facts about what occurred, and they do not have any personal >>>>> judgment on the spirit in which decisions were made.
Atheists generally reject creationism, while subjectivity is an
inherently
creationist concept. When asked, atheists uniformly reject the
basic logic
of subjectivity, as wordsalad nonsense.
It is very clear that atheists systematically go out of their way to >>>>> marginalize subjectivity, personal judgment, and then pretend that
scientific fact is all that matters.
And this is what must inevitably lead to total catastrophe.
Evolution theory is held in opposition to creationism, which means
evolution science causes people to deny the entire subjective part of >>>>> reality, because subjectivity is an inherently creationist concept.
Moreover, evolution science appropiates subjective terminology for
science, and re-assigns the subjective words an objective meaning.
Words
like differential reproductive "success", and "selfish" genes.
Basically
the entire life cycle of oranisms is explained using all kinds of
subjective terminology, in respect to this "success".
Which then obviously means that the proper subjective meaning of
subjective words is replaced, with a new objective meaning. Leading to >>>>> marginalization of subjectivity.
And here was I, thinking it had something to do with hatred of Jews.
Nando Ronteltap. He's Dutch and he speaks in tongues.
Nando’s nuts. He makes the Italian anti-Newtonian look sane.
Note that, according to him, everything bad was caused by evolutionists.
Everything. I have an occasional look at his stuff when I need a laugh
nand
want to find out what evil deeds I’m guilty of today.
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