From Linkedin
Violation of the principle of action and reaction through the PNN
www.asps.it (PNN = Non-Newtonian Propulsion)
Funeral song in memory of the petiform propulsion of which the first
CEO was Hitler, which works well only to kill people on Earth but is
not capable of colonizing anything as has been demonstrated over half a century since Apollo 11: NO HUMAN COLONIES ON THE MOON ... with Musk's comical starpi**a continually exploding :-)
freely tampered with by Asps CEO E.Laureti…. censored wherever there is
a trumpet or scientifically orthodox moderator :-)
Paradise Canto eighth .....He used to believe the world was in danger
that the beautiful Ciprigna the crazy love radiate, once in the third epicycle;...... PNN version :-) I used to believe I'd ride it (with a trumpet) in danger (the PNN incu**ta violating the principle of action
and reaction REVERIFIED by outside the Asps) that the beautiful
Ciprigna (so to speak...kekkagorod antipnn troll in disguise www.asps.it/gotha.htm) sko**eggiasse up in the third epicycle (Musk's
comical bankruptcy and billionaire farts with starpi**a) here is the revolution! https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/ in which the
violability of the principle of action and reaction is demonstrated
with a patent.
With all FURTHER demonstrations Experimental ones you wanthttps://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=875047050904261&set=a.110120617396912
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=874370817638551&set=pcb.874370864305213 Do you really want to colonize Mars? Do it with PNN!
On 12/23/23 2:58 PM, Northern Tiger wrote:
On 2023-12-17 08:16:32 +0000, pnn calmagorod said:Signor Laureti is a nut. He listens to nothing, and has been repeating
From Linkedin
Violation of the principle of action and reaction through the PNN
www.asps.it (PNN = Non-Newtonian Propulsion)
Funeral song in memory of the petiform propulsion of which the first
CEO was Hitler, which works well only to kill people on Earth but is
not capable of colonizing anything as has been demonstrated over half
a century since Apollo 11: NO HUMAN COLONIES ON THE MOON ... with
Musk's comical starpi**a continually exploding :-)
freely tampered with by Asps CEO E.Laureti…. censored wherever there
is a trumpet or scientifically orthodox moderator :-)
Paradise Canto eighth .....He used to believe the world was in danger
that the beautiful Ciprigna the crazy love radiate, once in the third
epicycle;...... PNN version :-) I used to believe I'd ride it (with a
trumpet) in danger (the PNN incu**ta violating the principle of action
and reaction REVERIFIED by outside the Asps) that the beautiful
Ciprigna (so to speak...kekkagorod antipnn troll in disguise
www.asps.it/gotha.htm) sko**eggiasse up in the third epicycle (Musk's
comical bankruptcy and billionaire farts with starpi**a) here is the
revolution! https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/ in which the
violability of the principle of action and reaction is demonstrated
with a patent.
With all FURTHER demonstrations Experimental ones you
wanthttps://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=875047050904261&set=a.110120617396912
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=874370817638551&set=pcb.874370864305213 >>> Do you really want to colonize Mars? Do it with PNN!
I've been lurking here for some time. I have noticed that you post
messages similar to this every ever so often. I have also seen that you
always attack rockets but never seem to be able to announce a successful
flight of your own. Perhaps I missed it. Please leave off the attacks
and post something positive about your system.
For example, how much payload can it lift to orbit? What kind of
sustained acceleration is it capable of? How much power is required to
lift one tonne to a stable 400-kilometer orbit? How much power to get
one tonne to the Moon and back? How long would the round trip take? How
much does it cost to build one of your motors? How many have you made?
No attacks, please. And please note that when you drag Hitler into the
conversation, you look really bad. Please stop doing that. It doesn't
help you. Indeed, it makes it easy to just ignore everything to say.
his junk for years. Don't waste time on him.
On 2023-12-17 08:16:32 +0000, pnn calmagorod said:[repeats from last year]
I've been lurking here for some time. I have noticed that you post
messages similar to this every ever so often. I have also seen that you always attack rockets but never seem to be able to announce a
successful flight of your own. Perhaps I missed it. Please leave off
the attacks and post something positive about your system.
On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 15:19:16 -0800, the following appeared[-]
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
Signor Laureti is a nut. He listens to nothing, and has been repeating
his junk for years. Don't waste time on him.
He pushes the high(?)-tech equivalent of "yogic flying", and
his method works about as well.
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 15:19:16 -0800, the following appeared[-]
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
Signor Laureti is a nut. He listens to nothing, and has been repeatingHe pushes the high(?)-tech equivalent of "yogic flying", and
his junk for years. Don't waste time on him.
his method works about as well.
Someone who really believed he could do it
has tried to collect the James Randi prize for it.
He could say Hop Hop! to himself, but Randi's camera didn't see air.
Randi tells that the guy was quite surprsed,
because he really believed in himself,
Northern Tiger <northerntiger@outlook.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-17 08:16:32 +0000, pnn calmagorod said:[repeats from last year]
I've been lurking here for some time. I have noticed that you post
messages similar to this every ever so often. I have also seen that you
always attack rockets but never seem to be able to announce a
successful flight of your own. Perhaps I missed it. Please leave off
the attacks and post something positive about your system.
It also helps to be aware of the fundamental physics
behind energy and momentum conservation.
By Noether's theorem conservation laws are linked to global symmetries.
In particular, energy/momentum conservation follows directly from
invariance under space-time translations.
All laws of physics have this symmetry at the fundamental level,
hence energy-momentum conservation must hold at all levels.
Tinkering with macroscopic objects to create a perpetuum mobile
or a reactionless drive adresses the problems
on a level where such attemps are futile.
If someone wants to make people believe in things like this
he should explain why global translation invariance does not hold.
(so that the laws of physics might be different in New York
than they are in Italy)
Failing that, all attempts at free energy, reactionless drives,
and so on can safely be ignored altogether,
Jan
Il giorno domenica 17 dicembre 2023 alle 09:17:11 UTC+1 pnn calmagorod ha scritto:COLONIES ON THE MOON ... with Musk's comical starpi**a continually exploding :-)
From Linkedin
Violation of the principle of action and reaction through the PNN www.asps.it (PNN = Non-Newtonian Propulsion)
Funeral song in memory of the petiform propulsion of which the first CEO was Hitler, which works well only to kill people on Earth but is not capable of colonizing anything as has been demonstrated over half a century since Apollo 11: NO HUMAN
violating the principle of action and reaction REVERIFIED by outside the Asps) that the beautiful Ciprigna (so to speak...kekkagorod antipnn troll in disguise www.asps.it/gotha.htm) sko**eggiasse up in the third epicycle (Musk's comical bankruptcy andfreely tampered with by Asps CEO E.Laureti…. censored wherever there is a trumpet or scientifically orthodox moderator :-)
Paradise Canto eighth .....He used to believe the world was in danger that the beautiful Ciprigna the crazy love radiate, once in the third epicycle;...... PNN version :-) I used to believe I'd ride it (with a trumpet) in danger (the PNN incu**ta
With all FURTHER demonstrations Experimental ones you want https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=875047050904261&set=a.110120617396912
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=874370817638551&set=pcb.874370864305213
Do you really want to colonize Mars? Do it with PNN!
New update in www.asps.it
with 24 dipoles such this
www.asps.it/maomao1.jpg
a 100kw kilopower to Mars and return in less than 10 days
quo fata ferunt
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 23:17:09 -0800 (PST)
pnn calmagorod <calma...@gmail.com> wrote:
New update in www.asps.it
with 24 dipoles such this
www.asps.it/maomao1.jpg
a 100kw kilopower to Mars and return in less than 10 days2lots of kilo?
quo fata ferunt
Please bring back some rock. Tell you what, I'll be generous, I'll
give you 'til next Xmas, that's 36 lots of 10 days - should be plenty.
Il giorno domenica 17 dicembre 2023 alle 09:17:11 UTC+1 pnn calmagorod ha scritto:
From Linkedin
Violation of the principle of action and reaction through the PNN www.asps.it (PNN = Non-Newtonian Propulsion)
Funeral song in memory of the petiform propulsion of which the first CEO was Hitler, which works well only to kill people on Earth but is not capable of colonizing anything as has been demonstrated over half a century since Apollo 11: NO HUMAN COLONIES ON THE MOON ... with Musk's comical starpi**a continually exploding :-)
freely tampered with by Asps CEO E.Laureti…. censored wherever there is a trumpet or scientifically orthodox moderator :-)
Paradise Canto eighth .....He used to believe the world was in danger that the beautiful Ciprigna the crazy love radiate, once in the third epicycle;...... PNN version :-) I used to believe I'd ride it (with a trumpet) in danger (the PNN incu**ta violating the principle of action and reaction REVERIFIED by outside the Asps) that the beautiful Ciprigna (so to speak...kekkagorod antipnn troll in disguise www.asps.it/gotha.htm) sko**eggiasse up in the third epicycle (Musk's comical bankruptcy and billionaire farts with starpi**a) here is the revolution! https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/ in which the violability of the principle of action and reaction is demonstrated with a patent.
With all FURTHER demonstrations Experimental ones you want https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=875047050904261&set=a.110120617396912
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=874370817638551&set=pcb.874370864305213
Do you really want to colonize Mars? Do it with PNN!
New update in www.asps.it
with 24 dipoles such this
www.asps.it/maomao1.jpg
a 100kw kilopower to Mars and return in less than 10 days
quo fata ferunt
On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 03:37:58 -0800 (PST), Öö Tiib <oot...@hot.ee>
wrote:
On Wednesday 27 December 2023 at 11:27:21 UTC+2, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 23:17:09 -0800 (PST)You are nitpicking. Main message is that Signor Laureti's Moonshine Apparatus
pnn calmagorod <calma...@gmail.com> wrote:
New update in www.asps.it2lots of kilo?
with 24 dipoles such this
www.asps.it/maomao1.jpg
a 100kw kilopower to Mars and return in less than 10 days
is now upgraded to Marsshine Apparatus.
Perhaps he just mixed up slogans after tasting some outputPlease bring back some rock. Tell you what, I'll be generous, I'll
quo fata ferunt
give you 'til next Xmas, that's 36 lots of 10 days - should be plenty.
of Marsshine Apparatus. Original: ><https://encyclopediavirginia.org/1244hpr-d1e586f283181af/>
Goat of arms of Bermuda: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Bermuda#/media/File:Coat_of_arms_of_Bermuda.svg>Goat of arms? Either you or the artist drank too much Marsshine.
Flag of Bermuda: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Bermuda#/media/File:Flag_of_Bermuda.svg>--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
On Wednesday 27 December 2023 at 11:27:21 UTC+2, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 23:17:09 -0800 (PST)You are nitpicking. Main message is that Signor Laureti's Moonshine Apparatus >is now upgraded to Marsshine Apparatus.
pnn calmagorod <calma...@gmail.com> wrote:
New update in www.asps.it2lots of kilo?
with 24 dipoles such this
www.asps.it/maomao1.jpg
a 100kw kilopower to Mars and return in less than 10 days
Perhaps he just mixed up slogans after tasting some outputPlease bring back some rock. Tell you what, I'll be generous, I'll
quo fata ferunt
give you 'til next Xmas, that's 36 lots of 10 days - should be plenty.
of Marsshine Apparatus. Original: ><https://encyclopediavirginia.org/1244hpr-d1e586f283181af/>
Goat of arms of Bermuda: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Bermuda#/media/File:Coat_of_arms_of_Bermuda.svg>
Flag of Bermuda: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Bermuda#/media/File:Flag_of_Bermuda.svg>
On 2023-12-24 12:18:29 +0000, J. J. Lodder said:
Northern Tiger <northerntiger@outlook.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-17 08:16:32 +0000, pnn calmagorod said:[repeats from last year]
I've been lurking here for some time. I have noticed that you post
messages similar to this every ever so often. I have also seen that you
always attack rockets but never seem to be able to announce a
successful flight of your own. Perhaps I missed it. Please leave off
the attacks and post something positive about your system.
It also helps to be aware of the fundamental physics
behind energy and momentum conservation.
By Noether's theorem conservation laws are linked to global symmetries.
In particular, energy/momentum conservation follows directly from invariance under space-time translations.
All laws of physics have this symmetry at the fundamental level,
hence energy-momentum conservation must hold at all levels.
Tinkering with macroscopic objects to create a perpetuum mobile
or a reactionless drive adresses the problems
on a level where such attemps are futile.
That is what I thought. I can't see any scenario where a working
reactionless drive can't be used as part of a perpetual motion machine. Perpetual motion machines are impossible. It would have been nice to
have been wrong. A reactionless drive would be very useful. However,
the OP seems to be missing in action. Perhaps he will yet show up and
show everyone a working motor. Probably not.
On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 13:18:29 +0100, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder):
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 15:19:16 -0800, the following appeared[-]
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
Signor Laureti is a nut. He listens to nothing, and has been repeating >> >his junk for years. Don't waste time on him.He pushes the high(?)-tech equivalent of "yogic flying", and
his method works about as well.
Someone who really believed he could do it
has tried to collect the James Randi prize for it.
He could say Hop Hop! to himself, but Randi's camera didn't see air.
Randi tells that the guy was quite surprsed,
because he really believed in himself,
I was unaware of that specific item, but Randi was very good
at puncturing delusions and the claims of charlatans, and
was careful to collect enough objective evidence (such as
you note) in support. Of course, many, especially the
self-deluded, refused to accept the debunking, but that
didn't make the evidence vanish.
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 23:17:09 -0800 (PST)[-]
pnn calmagorod <calmagorod@gmail.com> wrote:
a 100kw kilopower to Mars and return in less than 10 days
quo fata ferunt
Please bring back some rock. Tell you what, I'll be generous, I'll
give you 'til next Xmas, that's 36 lots of 10 days - should be plenty.
On Dec 27, 2023, pnn calmagorod wrote
(in article<227a1965-8d3b-43b7-bd6a-5303e76bf3e5n@googlegroups.com>):
Il giorno domenica 17 dicembre 2023 alle 09:17:11 UTC+1 pnn calmagorod ha scritto:
From Linkedin
Violation of the principle of action and reaction through the PNN www.asps.it (PNN = Non-Newtonian Propulsion)
Funeral song in memory of the petiform propulsion of which the first CEO was Hitler, which works well only to kill people on Earth but is not capable of colonizing anything as has been demonstrated over half a century since Apollo 11: NO HUMAN COLONIES ON THE MOON ... with Musk's comical starpi**a continually exploding :-)
freely tampered with by Asps CEO E.Laureti…. censored wherever there
is a trumpet or scientifically orthodox moderator :-)
Paradise Canto eighth .....He used to believe the world was in danger that the beautiful Ciprigna the crazy love radiate, once in the third epicycle;...... PNN version :-) I used to believe I'd ride it (with a trumpet) in danger (the PNN incu**ta violating the principle of action and reaction REVERIFIED by outside the Asps) that the beautiful
Ciprigna (so to speak...kekkagorod antipnn troll in disguise www.asps.it/gotha.htm) sko**eggiasse up in the third epicycle (Musk's comical bankruptcy and billionaire farts with starpi**a) here is the revolution! https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/ in which the violability of the principle of action and reaction is demonstrated
with a patent.
With all FURTHER demonstrations Experimental ones you want https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=875047050904261&set=a.11012061739 6912
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=874370817638551&set=pcb.87437086430 >5213
Do you really want to colonize Mars? Do it with PNN!
New update in www.asps.it
with 24 dipoles such this
www.asps.it/maomao1.jpg
a 100kw kilopower to Mars and return in less than 10 days
Oh, gee... 100 kilowatts. Hmm. 1 hp is 746 watts. 100 kW is... 134 hp. A Cessna 172 has a 160 hp, just under 120 kW, motor. Your motor is comparable to the motors fitted to light passenger aircraft. A bit less powerful, actually. Hmm. This is supposed to impress people? You're going to go to
Mars in an underpowered Cessna? Really? And what are you going to use to generate that 100kW? You'd better have a robust, non-air-breathing, power system. What is it?
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