• Chez Watt July winner

    From Mark Isaak@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 1 21:55:19 2023
    The winner of the Voting for July Chez Watts was:

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    Category: God and the Art of Automobile Maintenance

    Evolution is to atheism as auto repair is to atheism.

    That is an absolutely horrible analogy. Anyone who has contorted
    themselves to reach a largely unreachable exhaust manifold
    bolt, bashing their knuckles, dusting their eyes with a rain of large
    crusty flakes of rust, only to ultimately have that most inaccessible
    of bolts snap off still holding the manifold firmly in place, knows
    for a FACT that there is no god, no matter how loud and intensely
    they reference him along the way.


    A close second:
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    Who was the founder of Christianity? I think the founders were
    certain Old Testament prophets and the 12 Apostles.


    --
    Mark Isaak
    "Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That
    doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to Mark Isaak on Sat Sep 2 17:58:22 2023
    On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 21:55:19 -0700
    Mark Isaak <specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net> wrote:

    The winner of the Voting for July Chez Watts was:

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    Category: God and the Art of Automobile Maintenance

    Evolution is to atheism as auto repair is to atheism.

    That is an absolutely horrible analogy. Anyone who has contorted
    themselves to reach a largely unreachable exhaust manifold
    bolt, bashing their knuckles, dusting their eyes with a rain of large
    crusty flakes of rust, only to ultimately have that most inaccessible
    of bolts snap off still holding the manifold firmly in place, knows
    for a FACT that there is no god, no matter how loud and intensely
    they reference him along the way.


    "If there is a god, why must he be sane -
    he's probably a raving fruity,
    out of his tiny brain"

    God is Mad - Los Albertos - I expect youtube will have a vid somewhere.


    A close second:
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    Who was the founder of Christianity? I think the founders were
    certain Old Testament prophets and the 12 Apostles.

    Poor Old John the Baptist, always getting overlooked.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From peter2nyikos@gmail.com@21:1/5 to John on Mon Sep 4 09:53:27 2023
    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 1:00:23 PM UTC-4, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 21:55:19 -0700
    Mark Isaak <specime...@curioustaxon.omy.net> wrote:

    The winner of the Voting for July Chez Watts was:

    ====================================================
    Category: God and the Art of Automobile Maintenance

    Evolution is to atheism as auto repair is to atheism.

    That is an absolutely horrible analogy. Anyone who has contorted themselves to reach a largely unreachable exhaust manifold
    bolt, bashing their knuckles, dusting their eyes with a rain of large crusty flakes of rust, only to ultimately have that most inaccessible
    of bolts snap off still holding the manifold firmly in place, knows
    for a FACT that there is no god, no matter how loud and intensely
    they reference him along the way.

    Back in the heyday of Chez Watt, Harvest Dancer (who played the same role
    as MarK Isaak does here) wrote the following when announcing
    the June 2013 winners:

    "Winning authors and nominators are invited to come forward for credit / blame as appropriate."
    --https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/vmy46boX-Vc/m/IK8-nbbOAzgJ
    Re: Chez Watt Ballot, July 1, 2013
    Jul 9, 2013, 2:17:20 PM

    I nominated the one you read above. May the reactions be in the spirit
    of Harvest Dancer's words.


    "If there is a god, why must he be sane -
    he's probably a raving fruity,
    out of his tiny brain"

    God is Mad - Los Albertos - I expect youtube will have a vid somewhere.

    I'd rather it didn't. It is a stopper of all meaningful discussion that is relevant to talk.origins,
    unless one wants to take seriously David Hume's suggestion about the universe having
    been spun from the belly of an infinite spider. Even then, the connection is a stretch.

    Explanation: "tiny brain" precludes the attributes of the God of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic
    tradition, even the one that arises from a literalist reading of the first eleven chapters of Genesis. When one gets to Chapter 20, there is even
    the case of someone shaming God for threatening to punish
    an innocent man, and God acknowledging the reproach, albeit
    in a high-handed way.

    God gets better in the OT as time goes on, even acknowledging that
    Job had told the truth about him, even though Job had railed at God
    for allowing so much evil in the world.

    A close second:
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    Who was the founder of Christianity? I think the founders were
    certain Old Testament prophets and the 12 Apostles.

    Which 12, I wonder. Is it supposed to include Judas? Or Matthias, his replacement
    by the remaining 11? Or Saul of Tarsus, a.k.a. St. Paul, appointed by Jesus
    and the Holy Spirit? He called himself "The last and least of the Apostles."

    Poor Old John the Baptist, always getting overlooked.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

    Poor Jesus, even being overlooked by you.

    By the way, there is a tiny sect of Gnostics called the Mandaeans,
    who make John the Baptist the founder of their sect, and they
    rate him more highly than Jesus.


    Peter Nyikos

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  • From peter2nyikos@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Mark Isaak on Wed Sep 6 12:40:10 2023
    Most explanations of jokes take away from the humor, but I'm hoping that Chez Watts
    are so different from most jokes as to be an exception.

    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 1:00:22 AM UTC-4, Mark Isaak wrote:
    The winner of the Voting for July Chez Watts was:

    ====================================================
    Category: God and the Art of Automobile Maintenance

    Evolution is to atheism as auto repair is to atheism.

    That is an absolutely horrible analogy. Anyone who has contorted
    themselves to reach a largely unreachable exhaust manifold
    bolt, bashing their knuckles, dusting their eyes with a rain of large
    crusty flakes of rust, only to ultimately have that most inaccessible
    of bolts snap off still holding the manifold firmly in place, knows
    for a FACT that there is no god, no matter how loud and intensely
    they reference him along the way.

    Continuing my comments in harmony with Harvest Dancer's words in 2013:

    "Winning authors and nominators are invited to come forward for credit / blame as appropriate."
    --https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/vmy46boX-Vc/m/IK8-nbbOAzgJ

    The Category I chose was with the title of this best-seller very much in mind: _Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance_, by Robert M. Pirsig https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance

    Even where the words aren't the same, the number of letters in the corresponding words
    is the same. We mathematicians would describe this with:
    "An order-preserving bijection of keystrokes, which is the identity function on 5 of the 7 words."
    [bijection = one-to-one correspondence]

    But enough nerdy talk. After I warmed to the nominated comments, I realized that they were
    probably close enough to the spirit of Robert M. Pirsig's book that, were he still alive,
    he might actually enjoy reading them.

    I should add that, not having read the book myself, I am only going on what the Wikipedia article says.
    If anyone reading this has read it, the composer of the winning Chez Watt might
    like to converse with him about it.


    Peter Nyikos

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