• US House Republicans and Noahic Flood

    From Lawyer Daggett@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 08:06:00 2023
    As some may know, political battles in the US have included some
    inflammatory scare tactics about immigration, especially furtive
    immigration across the Southern border with Mexico.

    Most recently, Texas Governor Abbott has installed some lethal
    barriers midstream in the Rio Grande to deter migrant crossings
    and this has led to at least two deaths, including a small child.

    This has created a legal battle between the State of Texas and the
    Federal Government about control of the river. For obscure reasons
    the applicable laws hinge somewhat on whether or not the Rio Grande
    qualifies as a "navigable waterway".

    A group of Republican Congressmen have joined a filing to the court
    in support of Abbott's rights to install the lethal booby-trap barriers.
    In so doing, they try to discount the fact that boats can travel on the
    Rio Grande with the following:

    . “Indeed, if one takes the Book of Genesis literally, then the entire
    . world was once navigable by boats large enough to carry significant
    . amounts of livestock,” the proposed amicus brief reads. “Under the
    . federal government’s theory, these anecdotes would render any
    . structure built anywhere in Texas an obstruction to navigation
    . subject to federal regulation.”

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  • From Lawyer Daggett@21:1/5 to Burkhard on Fri Aug 11 10:08:27 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:56:10 PM UTC-4, Burkhard wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 4:06:11 PM UTC+1, Lawyer Daggett wrote:
    As some may know, political battles in the US have included some inflammatory scare tactics about immigration, especially furtive immigration across the Southern border with Mexico.

    Most recently, Texas Governor Abbott has installed some lethal
    barriers midstream in the Rio Grande to deter migrant crossings
    and this has led to at least two deaths, including a small child.

    This has created a legal battle between the State of Texas and the
    Federal Government about control of the river. For obscure reasons
    the applicable laws hinge somewhat on whether or not the Rio Grande qualifies as a "navigable waterway".

    A group of Republican Congressmen have joined a filing to the court
    in support of Abbott's rights to install the lethal booby-trap barriers. In so doing, they try to discount the fact that boats can travel on the Rio Grande with the following:

    . “Indeed, if one takes the Book of Genesis literally, then the entire
    . world was once navigable by boats large enough to carry significant
    . amounts of livestock,” the proposed amicus brief reads. “Under the
    . federal government’s theory, these anecdotes would render any
    . structure built anywhere in Texas an obstruction to navigation
    . subject to federal regulation.”
    Just to ruin your day completely, if I read the Texas brief correctly, they are arguing that (illegal) immigration is an invasion and triggers therefore Art 1 of the Constitution and allows measures that would otherwise be
    a violation of federal law (like putting floating booby traps on waterways)

    But if the courts were to accept this interpretation, then also Article I, Sec. 9, Cl. 2 is triggered - which would give the President (or maybe congress
    who knows...) the right to set aside the Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus.

    So I'd say both people from the left and the right should seriously ask themselves
    if they want Biden/Trump/whoever you can imagine to have the power to arrest and indefinitely
    detain also US citizens without trial...

    So going back to the legal system of biblical times seems also on the cards...

    Now, proper originalist judges would on historical grounds reject that interpretation, but
    with the cafeteria originalists currently forming the SCOTUS majority, who knows...

    The legal system of biblical times? I guess that explains the circular saw blades
    on the barriers. They are going full Solomon and suggesting cutting babies in half.

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  • From Burkhard@21:1/5 to Lawyer Daggett on Fri Aug 11 09:54:08 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 4:06:11 PM UTC+1, Lawyer Daggett wrote:
    As some may know, political battles in the US have included some inflammatory scare tactics about immigration, especially furtive
    immigration across the Southern border with Mexico.

    Most recently, Texas Governor Abbott has installed some lethal
    barriers midstream in the Rio Grande to deter migrant crossings
    and this has led to at least two deaths, including a small child.

    This has created a legal battle between the State of Texas and the
    Federal Government about control of the river. For obscure reasons
    the applicable laws hinge somewhat on whether or not the Rio Grande qualifies as a "navigable waterway".

    A group of Republican Congressmen have joined a filing to the court
    in support of Abbott's rights to install the lethal booby-trap barriers.
    In so doing, they try to discount the fact that boats can travel on the
    Rio Grande with the following:

    . “Indeed, if one takes the Book of Genesis literally, then the entire
    . world was once navigable by boats large enough to carry significant
    . amounts of livestock,” the proposed amicus brief reads. “Under the
    . federal government’s theory, these anecdotes would render any
    . structure built anywhere in Texas an obstruction to navigation
    . subject to federal regulation.”

    Just to ruin your day completely, if I read the Texas brief correctly, they are arguing that (illegal) immigration is an invasion and triggers therefore Art 1 of the Constitution and allows measures that would otherwise be
    a violation of federal law (like putting floating booby traps on waterways)

    But if the courts were to accept this interpretation, then also Article I, Sec. 9, Cl. 2 is triggered - which would give the President (or maybe congress who knows...) the right to set aside the Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus.

    So I'd say both people from the left and the right should seriously ask themselves
    if they want Biden/Trump/whoever you can imagine to have the power to arrest and indefinitely
    detain also US citizens without trial...

    So going back to the legal system of biblical times seems also on the cards...

    Now, proper originalist judges would on historical grounds reject that interpretation, but
    with the cafeteria originalists currently forming the SCOTUS majority, who knows...

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?=@21:1/5 to Burkhard on Fri Aug 11 19:56:18 2023
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 19:56:10 UTC+3, Burkhard wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 4:06:11 PM UTC+1, Lawyer Daggett wrote:
    As some may know, political battles in the US have included some inflammatory scare tactics about immigration, especially furtive immigration across the Southern border with Mexico.

    Most recently, Texas Governor Abbott has installed some lethal
    barriers midstream in the Rio Grande to deter migrant crossings
    and this has led to at least two deaths, including a small child.

    This has created a legal battle between the State of Texas and the
    Federal Government about control of the river. For obscure reasons
    the applicable laws hinge somewhat on whether or not the Rio Grande qualifies as a "navigable waterway".

    A group of Republican Congressmen have joined a filing to the court
    in support of Abbott's rights to install the lethal booby-trap barriers. In so doing, they try to discount the fact that boats can travel on the Rio Grande with the following:

    . “Indeed, if one takes the Book of Genesis literally, then the entire
    . world was once navigable by boats large enough to carry significant
    . amounts of livestock,” the proposed amicus brief reads. “Under the
    . federal government’s theory, these anecdotes would render any
    . structure built anywhere in Texas an obstruction to navigation
    . subject to federal regulation.”
    Just to ruin your day completely, if I read the Texas brief correctly, they are arguing that (illegal) immigration is an invasion and triggers therefore Art 1 of the Constitution and allows measures that would otherwise be
    a violation of federal law (like putting floating booby traps on waterways)

    But if the courts were to accept this interpretation, then also Article I, Sec. 9, Cl. 2 is triggered - which would give the President (or maybe congress
    who knows...) the right to set aside the Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus.

    So I'd say both people from the left and the right should seriously ask themselves
    if they want Biden/Trump/whoever you can imagine to have the power to arrest and indefinitely
    detain also US citizens without trial...

    So going back to the legal system of biblical times seems also on the cards...

    Now, proper originalist judges would on historical grounds reject that interpretation, but
    with the cafeteria originalists currently forming the SCOTUS majority, who knows...

    What Noah? Were the installed traps legal for hunting/fishing? Is hunting
    and cannibalism of foreigners legal?

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  • From Nando Ronteltap@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 16 15:33:34 2023
    The people who don't understand how subjectivity works, evolutionists, expressing their subjective opinions. So trainwreck.




    p vrijdag 11 augustus 2023 om 17:06:11 UTC+2 schreef Lawyer Daggett:S
    As some may know, political battles in the US have included some inflammatory scare tactics about immigration, especially furtive
    immigration across the Southern border with Mexico.

    Most recently, Texas Governor Abbott has installed some lethal
    barriers midstream in the Rio Grande to deter migrant crossings
    and this has led to at least two deaths, including a small child.

    This has created a legal battle between the State of Texas and the
    Federal Government about control of the river. For obscure reasons
    the applicable laws hinge somewhat on whether or not the Rio Grande qualifies as a "navigable waterway".

    A group of Republican Congressmen have joined a filing to the court
    in support of Abbott's rights to install the lethal booby-trap barriers.
    In so doing, they try to discount the fact that boats can travel on the
    Rio Grande with the following:

    . “Indeed, if one takes the Book of Genesis literally, then the entire
    . world was once navigable by boats large enough to carry significant
    . amounts of livestock,” the proposed amicus brief reads. “Under the
    . federal government’s theory, these anecdotes would render any
    . structure built anywhere in Texas an obstruction to navigation
    . subject to federal regulation.”

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