• How to impress JTEM

    From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 28 22:41:40 2023
    I'm going to say something. I've said it before but
    this time, if you really want to impress me, you
    could respond to me. Even point by point.

    See, although this never occurred to you, I grew
    up in the same world as you. I saw the same
    headlines that you did. I learned pretty much the
    same things as you. You don't have to repeat
    any of it back to me know. I know it. And
    regurgitating here, or anywhere, doesn't make
    you look clever or well read or anything like that.

    Repeating what you heard from a documentary
    or a high school teacher doesn't even convey
    understanding. Parroting words never required
    understanding.

    Okay, so impress my, impress the world by
    responding (and not reacting) to this:

    The oldest monkey fossils found in the Americas are
    presently dated at 36 million years. Monkeys were
    already diversified at that point.

    There are no records of monkey behaviors for even
    10% of that history. There's absolutely zero recorded
    observations of monkey behavior for even 1% of that
    history, or 0.01% of that history.

    I defy you to produce any record of monkeys using
    tools that stretches back even 0.001% of that
    history...

    So virtually NOTHING exists for your history of "Tool
    use" in Monkeys. What about birds?

    Birds are popularly dated back 150 million years. So
    that leaves us with 25% of nothing. A little less,
    actually.

    Invertebrates? Now we have to push things back at
    least half a billion years.

    Science is specific. Science needs to be "Precise."
    And the language science uses needs to be precise.
    However, the misuse of the word "Tools" is the
    opposite. It doesn't convey information. It's not
    specific. It has no significance what so ever.

    A human ancestor is no different from a Chimp, no
    more special than a monkey, no more advanced
    than a bird, many other mammals and even
    invertebrates. Nothing useful is being conveyed.

    Nothing.

    It's not how science CAN WORK much less does work.

    And to cure this problem we just have to not be
    stupid...

    Instead of saying "The monkey hammered the nut with
    a rock, thus the rock is now a hammer and a hammer is
    a tools."

    Try this: "The monkey banged the nut with a rock."

    There. No more imaginary hammer, no more imaginary
    "Tool."

    And why this is vitally important is because you are
    witnessing AND DESCRIBING behaviors, not objects.

    BEHAVIORS, not objects.

    VERBS not NOUNS.

    So the rock isn't a tool because, quite literally, the rock
    isn't important. It's not special at all. It's not even the
    focus. No, you're looking at and trying to report THE
    BEHAVIOR.

    Nobody runs down to Home Depot to buy a behavior.

    "Hello, sir, in what isle can I find a behavior for sale."

    Science requires precision. The misuse of the word
    "Tools" accomplishes the exact opposite. It makes
    the history of tools, their frequency of use unknown
    and forever unknowable. And that's not any way that
    science can work.




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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to JTEM is my hero on Sat Jul 29 05:55:59 2023
    JTEM is my hero <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm going to say I've said it before

    Boring public display of who cares what…jerking off in public.

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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 29 09:05:53 2023
    On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 22:41:40 -0700 (PDT), JTEM trolled:

    I'm going to say something. I've said it before but
    this time, if you really want to impress me, you
    could respond to me. Even point by point.


    You first.

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  • From brogers31751@gmail.com@21:1/5 to JTEM is my hero on Sat Jul 29 11:01:02 2023
    On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 1:45:55 AM UTC-4, JTEM is my hero wrote:
    I'm going to say something. I've said it before but
    this time, if you really want to impress me, you
    could respond to me. <snip>

    If

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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to jillery on Sun Jul 30 01:15:42 2023
    jillery wrote:

    You

    Relax. I never implied that you would impress JTEM.




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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 30 01:17:26 2023
    broger...@gmail.com wrote:

    [...]

    If you were cured of your narcissism it's likely you'd recognize that
    there was no expectation of you moving beyond your mental
    problems.






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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to jillery on Sun Jul 30 10:59:18 2023
    On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 09:05:53 -0400
    jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 22:41:40 -0700 (PDT), JTEM trolled:

    I'm going to say something. I've said it before but
    this time, if you really want to impress me, you
    could respond to me. Even point by point.


    You first.

    PDFTT.

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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 30 10:53:06 2023
    Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

    [...]

    If you weren't a screeching narcissist you might consider
    that nobody ever accused you of being capable of
    intelligent responses. There was never any indication of
    an expectation. No, you are what you are and we both
    know how pathetic that is.





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  • From John Harshman@21:1/5 to John on Sun Jul 30 11:12:40 2023
    On 7/30/23 2:59 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
    On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 09:05:53 -0400
    jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 22:41:40 -0700 (PDT), JTEM trolled:

    I'm going to say something. I've said it before but
    this time, if you really want to impress me, you
    could respond to me. Even point by point.


    You first.

    PDFTT.

    It may explain JTEM's response to you if I tell you that he thinks most
    posters to TO are sock puppets of mine, and that he has decided that you
    are one of them. I haven't tried to assemble a complete list.

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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to John Harshman on Sun Jul 30 12:12:06 2023
    John Harshman wrote:

    It may explain JTEM's response to you

    "When two men always agree, one of them is irrelevant. On usenet, however,
    one or both are sock puppets."

    You stopped even trying. Years ago.




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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to John Harshman on Mon Jul 31 09:34:56 2023
    On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 11:12:40 -0700
    John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/30/23 2:59 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
    On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 09:05:53 -0400
    jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 22:41:40 -0700 (PDT), JTEM trolled:

    I'm going to say something. I've said it before but
    this time, if you really want to impress me, you
    could respond to me. Even point by point.


    You first.

    PDFTT.

    It may explain JTEM's response to you if I tell you that he thinks most posters to TO are sock puppets of mine, and that he has decided that you
    are one of them. I haven't tried to assemble a complete list.

    JTEM is too obnoxious to engage with. It's just here to rant, so ignoring
    it is the policy I recommend to the house.


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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to admin@127.0.0.1 on Mon Jul 31 12:53:44 2023
    On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 09:34:56 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
    <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 11:12:40 -0700
    John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/30/23 2:59 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
    On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 09:05:53 -0400
    jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 22:41:40 -0700 (PDT), JTEM trolled:

    I'm going to say something. I've said it before but
    this time, if you really want to impress me, you
    could respond to me. Even point by point.


    You first.

    PDFTT.

    It may explain JTEM's response to you if I tell you that he thinks most
    posters to TO are sock puppets of mine, and that he has decided that you
    are one of them. I haven't tried to assemble a complete list.

    JTEM is too obnoxious to engage with. It's just here to rant, so ignoring
    it is the policy I recommend to the house.


    As real world events demonstrate, it's dangerous to ignore willful
    stupidity. OTOH it's useful, both to the self and to the world at
    large, to document it. That's not the same as "engage".

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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to John on Thu Aug 3 10:25:27 2023
    Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

    JTEM is

    It's supposed to be about the topics, the ideas, but you're so
    fucked up you make everything about you... while cowering
    behind a rotating assortment of sock puppets.

    I mean, how did you survive this long with that narcissism?



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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to jillery on Thu Aug 3 10:27:48 2023
    jillery wrote:

    As real world events demonstrate, it's dangerous to ignore willful
    stupidity.

    "lol!"

    "I often post as jillary, amongst other sock puppets. The toast
    does not inform the butter on... no, wait. The butter does not
    inform the toast or the toaster. I forget what I mean."

    You're the intellectual equivalent to what someone left floating
    in a gas station restroom...






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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 15:11:18 2023
    On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 10:27:48 -0700 (PDT), JTEM trolled:

    You're the intellectual equivalent to what someone left floating
    in a gas station restroom...


    Yeah, I get that a lot from willfully stupid trolls.

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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to jillery on Thu Aug 3 22:48:43 2023
    Utterly worthless & knows it, jillery wrote:

    Yeah, I

    I honestly don't give a fuck about your feelings. This isn't therapy.
    Stop sharing already. And as you have proven yourself incapable
    of rendering a intelligent much less informed opinion, why don't
    you take a big dose of Shut The Fuck Up medicine before you say
    anything else stupid?

    Monkey fossils IN THE AMERICAS go back some 36 million years,
    and they were already diversified by that point. If your illness
    causes you to believe behaviors are tools then we're only missing
    about 100% of the history of tool use amongst primates.

    Roughly speaking.

    The percentage of time for which any evidence exist what so ever
    would be so minuscule that, even if we were speaking of the
    percentage of cyanide in your food, it would be pointless to
    consider.



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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 04:48:28 2023
    On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 22:48:43 -0700 (PDT), JTEM trolled:

    I honestly don't give a fuck about your feelings. This isn't therapy.
    Stop sharing already.


    You first.

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    You're not entitled to your own facts.

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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 6 21:23:22 2023
    Utterly worthless, jillery wrote:

    [...]

    Words communicate. In science, words have to have the same
    meaning for EVERYBODY. They have to convey the exact same
    information to EVERYONE. And that information must be of
    some value to science.

    You're a goddamn jackass parroting what it's been told. Without
    question. Without purpose.

    Lol! You actually believe that mindless regurgitating stupid shit
    makes you look smart!

    Oh, honey, there is *So* much wrong with you...





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