On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 14:23:53 +0100, Martin Harran
<martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 08:21:57 -0700 (PDT), erik simpson ><eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 8:10:40?AM UTC-7, jillery wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:24:47 +0100, Martin Harran
<martin...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 17:19:23 -0700 (PDT), "peter2...@gmail.com"
<peter2...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 6:25:37?PM UTC-4, Martin Harran wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 12:28:37 -0700 (PDT), "peter2...@gmail.com"

<peter2...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:30:18?AM UTC-4, Martin Harran wrote: >>> >>> >> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 08:14:15 -0700 (PDT), "peter2...@gmail.com"

<peter2...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 12:40:13?PM UTC-4, Martin Harran wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 06:10:48 -0700 (PDT), "peter2...@gmail.com" >>> >>> >> >> <peter2...@gmail.com> wrote:

All through the post to which I've replied, you've restricted >>> >>> >> >> >yourself to insults for which you haven't given a single
illustrative example, or even hinted at one. So you have
yet to initiate the process I've described.

So speaks he who said he would produce examples of my lack o0r respect
for the teaching of Jesus - twelve weeks have elapsed and you haven't
produced a single example.

You are shamelessly lying. I caught you red-handed in recklessly disregarding
Jesus's commandment, "Do not bear false witness" on another thread, where
you spewed outrageous falsehoods about me:

https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/xqiemRxP0mI/m/zJ8rzQ7uAAAJ
Re: A thread about banning, paradoxically about stopping discussion of banning
Jun 9, 2023, 7:05:49?PM


I thoroughly refuted the following two-part falsehood of yours there:

"as is well known here, if
you are not Peter's friend you are de facto his enemy"


Not content with that, you finished that sentence with an even more monstrous falsehood:

"and therefore, in his eyes, open to any kind of accusation however unfounded."

This is more outrageous than *anything* that ANYONE
has ever accused me of on the internet, including jillery.

To make matters even worse, you wrote these things in a direct reply to Bill Rogers,
who has me killfiled and cannot know how outrageously you misrepresented me:


You actually replied to the post I linked above, and deleted your lies
-- now that you've shamelessly lied about me above, I make bold to call them that--
calling my reaction to them "obfuscation" and demanding that
I do something that would have no bearing on the shameless lie that you uttered here.

Having recounted your reckless disregard of Jesus's commandment, "Do not bear
false witness" above, I asked the following question about it:

What do you suppose will happen to you after you die (if anything) >>> >>> >> >if you do not repent of this behaviour?

And you replied with the one-liner,

You really do need to get help

Are you saying this because you think I am taking the possibility far too seriously
of there being a life after death, with different outcomes that depend on what
one does in this life?

You duck this new question with a meaningless polemical device, followed by
a misrepresentation of my question:

My observation was based on your entire post, not just your "Have you >>> >>> stopped beating your wife?" style question.

You are just being more cryptic about your alleged "observation",
for which you give not an iota of evidence.

My question is not of the "Yes you lose, no you lose"

Yes it is.

style as that hoary classic, but could have been answered in any number of ways,
one of which is suggested by what I wrote next:

I wouldn't dream of asking such a question of John Harshman, who is convinced
that the notions of a life after death and God are fairy tales which mature adults
need to grow out of.

On the other hand, I thought that, since you say that your Catholic religion means
a lot to you, you would give a less cryptic answer than your one-liner.

Are you afraid to give an account of what you believe or disbelieve about life after death?

I have explained to you ad nauseam why treat you as I do and don't try >>> >to have a rational discussion with you. As recently as last December,
I reminded you:

"It's because of the lies you tell about me; the insults you throw at
me; the way you bring my name into discussions in which I have had no
part; the way you accuse me of taking part in some sort of grand
conspiracy against you, an imaginary conspiracy formed purely by your
paranoia."

I reminded you yet again in this very thread back just before you went >>> >off on your break:

"In my own case, *hostility* has nothing to do with your views about
evolution, it is a direct reaction to the way you tell lies and try to
impugn my character and that of others who disagree with you […] Add
to that your exceptionally irritating posting style of replying to
points that are many layers deep, using threads to attack people who
are not involved in the thread and dragging in obscure arguments from
other newsgroups which most people here do not participate in."

Even in your post above, you have tried to drag Harshman's name into
something he hasn't been involved in. I (and others) have been telling >>> >you these things for years but they have had no impact on you
whatsoever. Here's a typical example from me back in 2021:

"If you stick to the topic, I might [join in the discussion]. If you
start things like trying to drag in posters who aren't involved, or
issues from other threads, or discussions from other newsgroups, then
I certainly won't."

And one from back in 2019:

"Peter, I have told you before that I have no interest whatsoever in
trying to make sense of any of your posts where you hop about like a
demented hare from poster to poster and up and down attribute levels
like a yo-yo in the hands of somebody that is drunk."

So killfile him already, and quit yer bitchin'.
--

Excellent advice.

I don't engage with Peter without killfiling him because he regularly
tosses out bullshit about me in conversations in which I am not
involved (as he does with others) and I like to keep an eye on that.
That's different from another poster whom I have killfiled because
that poster's snide remarks are so puerile that their snideness is
glaringly self-evident and they don't warrant being addressed.

Because it's OBVIOUS? Once again Harran shows his hypocrisy.

--
You're entitled to your own opinions.
You're not entitled to your own facts.

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