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  • Another piece of evidence for Aquatic Ape

    From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 9 20:33:52 2023
    I swear, as a kid, I remember doing this:

    https://www.vspdirect.com/vision-hub/about-vision-underwater

    : Just like walking, riding a bike, or learning a new language, training
    : your eyes to see underwater can improve your vision underwater.
    : Although studies show that only children can be trained to see
    : underwater.

    Supposedly this is something that all humans can learn, at least as
    children.

    You just kind of... I dunno. You try to see and then you do. That's the
    only way I can explain it. It's like the urge to see underwater signals
    the eyes automatically. Or it doesn't. I imagine it's like tossing the
    baby bird out of the nest and it flies. Or it doesn't... plop.




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    https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/706022903934746624

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  • From Pro Plyd@21:1/5 to JTEM is my hero on Fri Jan 20 20:36:13 2023
    JTEM is my hero wrote:

    I swear, as a kid, I remember doing this:

    https://www.vspdirect.com/vision-hub/about-vision-underwater

    : Just like walking, riding a bike, or learning a new language, training
    : your eyes to see underwater can improve your vision underwater.
    : Although studies show that only children can be trained to see
    : underwater.

    Supposedly this is something that all humans can learn, at least as
    children.

    You just kind of... I dunno. You try to see and then you do. That's the
    only way I can explain it. It's like the urge to see underwater signals
    the eyes automatically. Or it doesn't. I imagine it's like tossing the
    baby bird out of the nest and it flies. Or it doesn't... plop.

    Why is this evidence for an aquatic ape? Even puppies can dive.

    https://www.insider.com/photos-puppies-diving-underwater-2014-9

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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to Pro Plyd on Fri Jan 20 23:01:50 2023
    Pro Plyd wrote:

    Why is this evidence for an aquatic ape? Even puppies can dive.

    Because it's not about diving. It's about an innate human ability
    to see under the water, if we begin in childhood.




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    https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/707031415595925504

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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to Athel Cornish-Bowden on Fri Jan 20 23:27:02 2023
    Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:


    JTEM is my hero wrote:

    I swear, as a kid, I remember doing this:

    https://www.vspdirect.com/vision-hub/about-vision-underwater

    : Just like walking, riding a bike, or learning a new language, training >> : your eyes to see underwater can improve your vision underwater.
    : Although studies show that only children can be trained to see
    : underwater.

    What is the evidence for any of JTEM's pronouncements?

    It's a mystery. To you.

    You can change the name on the outside but the stupid on the inside
    always remains the same...




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    https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/707031415595925504

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  • From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to Pro Plyd on Sat Jan 21 08:19:37 2023
    On 2023-01-21 03:36:13 +0000, Pro Plyd said:

    JTEM is my hero wrote:

    I swear, as a kid, I remember doing this:

    https://www.vspdirect.com/vision-hub/about-vision-underwater

    : Just like walking, riding a bike, or learning a new language, training
    : your eyes to see underwater can improve your vision underwater.
    : Although studies show that only children can be trained to see
    : underwater.

    Supposedly this is something that all humans can learn, at least as
    children.

    You just kind of... I dunno. You try to see and then you do. That's the
    only way I can explain it. It's like the urge to see underwater signals
    the eyes automatically. Or it doesn't. I imagine it's like tossing the
    baby bird out of the nest and it flies. Or it doesn't... plop.

    Why is this evidence for an aquatic ape? Even puppies can dive.

    https://www.insider.com/photos-puppies-diving-underwater-2014-9

    What is the evidence for any of JTEM's pronouncements?

    --
    athel cb : Biochemical Evolution, Garland Science, 2016

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  • From marc verhaegen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 27 05:28:55 2023
    Op zaterdag 21 januari 2023 om 04:40:56 UTC+1 schreef Pro Plyd:

    ...
    Why is this evidence for an aquatic ape? Even puppies can dive. https://www.insider.com/photos-puppies-diving-underwater-2014-9

    "Aquatic ape" is perhaps an unfortunate term (it's not about "apes" but about human ancestors, and most likely it was only semi-aquatic), but it's beyond doubt that early-Pleistocene H.erectus spent a lot of time diving, most likely mostly for shellfish:
    shell engravings (google "Joordens Munro"), brain enlargement (DHA etc. in seafoods), coastal fossilizations & island colonizations (e.g. Flores), pachy-osteo-sclerosis (only seen in salt water slow+shallow-diving tetrapods), stone tools (cf. sea-otters)
    etc.etc. Google:
    - Mio-Pliocene hominoid (ape) evolution, google “aquarboreal”,
    - Plio-Pleistocene Homo, google e.g. “human evolution Verhaegen”.

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