• Switch to PNN to colonize distant terrestrial-like planets

    From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 06:14:48 2022
    https://www.focus.it/scienza/spazio/scoperta-esopianeti-simili-alla-terra

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN

    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica1.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica2.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica3.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica4.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica5.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica7.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica8.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica10.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamericana11.JPG

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?=@21:1/5 to pnn calmagorod on Fri Dec 30 09:59:27 2022
    On Friday, 30 December 2022 at 16:15:34 UTC+2, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN


    It is possible to reproduce only what has been ever produced. You have
    not produced something so they will fail too.

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 14:12:48 2022
    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:59:27 -0800 (PST), the following
    appeared in talk.origins, posted by Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee>:

    On Friday, 30 December 2022 at 16:15:34 UTC+2, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN


    It is possible to reproduce only what has been ever produced. You have
    not produced something so they will fail too.

    His beloved "PNN" is the tech equivalent of "Yogic Flying";
    neither one works.

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Yogic_flying

    Maybe PNN also involves butt-bouncing...?

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    Bob C.

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    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 15:22:04 2022
    Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 19:00:35 UTC+1 oot...@hot.ee ha scritto:
    On Friday, 30 December 2022 at 16:15:34 UTC+2, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN

    It is possible to reproduce only what has been ever produced. You have
    not produced something so they will fail too.

    jes ....We are selling UAP without your an NASA permission 😊 https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?=@21:1/5 to pnn calmagorod on Fri Dec 30 18:39:44 2022
    On Saturday, 31 December 2022 at 01:25:35 UTC+2, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 19:00:35 UTC+1 oot...@hot.ee ha scritto:
    On Friday, 30 December 2022 at 16:15:34 UTC+2, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN

    It is possible to reproduce only what has been ever produced. You have
    not produced something so they will fail too.

    jes ....We are selling UAP without your an NASA permission 😊

    That is not my business what you sell to fools. Sell them "Do PNN Yourself" kits and when they write that they can't get it to work then organize butt-bouncing training courses for them in Italy. Good for tourism. 😄

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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 09:28:52 2022
    On Dec 30, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<8e55262c-a7e2-4b4c-8a2a-a8786106c8dcn@googlegroups.com>):


    https://www.focus.it/scienza/spazio/scoperta-esopianeti-simili-alla-terra

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-
    LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN

    It doesn’t work. They won’t be able to make it fly.


    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica1.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica2.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica3.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica4.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica5.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica7.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica8.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica10.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamericana11.JPG

    Hmm. ‘Distant’ ‘terrestrial-like’ planets, eh? Let’s see...

    The Moon ain’t distant, and ain’t a planet, and utterly lacks an atmosphere, and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off from even its puny gravity, so you’d need rockets.

    The Earth is a planet, has an atmosphere, but ain’t distant and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off, you’ll need rockets. Note
    that Mars’atmosphere is mostly CO2 and would be unbreathable if it were
    thick enough to breath, which it’s not.

    Mars is a planet, has a very thin atmosphere, isn’t particularly distant, your crap can’t lift from there, you’ll need rockets.

    Venus is a planet, has a very thick, very hot, atmosphere full of CO2 and
    SO2. And it rotates backwards, so that the Sun rises in the west. And it rotates very slowly, its day is longer than its year. And it’s not particularly distant. And your crap can’t lift from there.

    Mercury is a planet, but has no atmosphere, is very hot, and your crap
    can’t generate the accel to lift from there.

    Pluto is no longer a planet, is vey cold, and your crap can’t lift from there.

    The gas giants ain’t ‘terrestrial’ planets, and your crap most
    definitely can’t lift from any of them.

    So you’re going extra-solar to get to the ‘distant’ planets, eh? Hmm. A craft making one gee continuous accel would take about a year to make it to
    c, covering maybe half a light-year, and, of course, another year to
    decelerate back down. Time to Proxima Centuri, the star nearest to Sol, would be maybe five and a half years (one year accel, one year decel, three and a
    bit years coasting at c.) Your crap can’t push one gee. Your crap can’t push one tenth of a gee.

    It would be interesting to see you try to go to ‘distant terrestrial planets’.

    In the meantime, the ISS crew needs someone to give them a lift home, their Russian shitpile has gone all Russian. https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/30/nasa_iss_soyuz_rescue/
    So why don’t you fly on up and offer them a lift down? Other than, oh, your stuff doesn’t bloody work?

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 09:52:35 2022
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 15:30:36 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 30, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<8e55262c-a7e2-4b4c...@googlegroups.com>):


    https://www.focus.it/scienza/spazio/scoperta-esopianeti-simili-alla-terra

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-
    LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN
    It doesn’t work. They won’t be able to make it fly.


    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica1.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica2.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica3.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica4.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica5.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica7.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica8.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica10.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamericana11.JPG
    Hmm. ‘Distant’ ‘terrestrial-like’ planets, eh? Let’s see...

    The Moon ain’t distant, and ain’t a planet, and utterly lacks an atmosphere, and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off from even its puny gravity, so you’d need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy


    The Earth is a planet, has an atmosphere, but ain’t distant and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off, you’ll need rockets. Note that Mars’atmosphere is mostly CO2 and would be unbreathable if it were thick enough to breath, which it’s not.

    Mars is a planet, has a very thin atmosphere, isn’t particularly distant, your crap can’t lift from there, you’ll need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    more electric energy


    Venus is a planet, has a very thick, very hot, atmosphere full of CO2 and SO2. And it rotates backwards, so that the Sun rises in the west. And it rotates very slowly, its day is longer than its year. And it’s not particularly distant. And your crap can’t lift from there.

    http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy



    Mercury is a planet, but has no atmosphere, is very hot, and your crap can’t generate the accel to lift from there.

    Pluto is no longer a planet, is vey cold, and your crap can’t lift from there.

    The gas giants ain’t ‘terrestrial’ planets, and your crap most definitely can’t lift from any of them.

    lowering PNN impedance at .01 ohm http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    lift off !
    I need a kilopowe



    So you’re going extra-solar to get to the ‘distant’ planets, eh? Hmm. A
    craft making one gee continuous accel would take about a year to make it to c, covering maybe half a light-year, and, of course, another year to decelerate back down. Time to Proxima Centuri, the star nearest to Sol, would
    be maybe five and a half years (one year accel, one year decel, three and a bit years coasting at c.) Your crap can’t push one gee. Your crap can’t push one tenth of a gee.

    violating II newton law of motion mass decrease
    http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    to speed faster than light



    It would be interesting to see you try to go to ‘distant terrestrial planets’.

    In the meantime, the ISS crew needs someone to give them a lift home, their Russian shitpile has gone all Russian.

    we need a modern Fermi nuclear reactor http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg ... for more electric energy for PNN

    https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/30/nasa_iss_soyuz_rescue/
    So why don’t you fly on up and offer them a lift down? Other than, oh, your
    stuff doesn’t bloody work?

    PNN works and Artritic (artemis) is a comic WC

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com//patent

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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 14:03:37 2022
    On Dec 31, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<c73d7e9d-7f3f-45b7-b225-9a6d2da285c1n@googlegroups.com>):

    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 15:30:36 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 30, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<8e55262c-a7e2-4b4c...@googlegroups.com>):


    https://www.focus.it/scienza/spazio/scoperta-esopianeti-simili-alla-terra

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P
    22-
    LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN
    It doesn’t work. They won’t be able to make it fly.


    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica1.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica2.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica3.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica4.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica5.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica7.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica8.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica10.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamericana11.JPG
    Hmm. ‘Distant’ ‘terrestrial-like’ planets, eh? Let’s see...

    The Moon ain’t distant, and ain’t a planet, and utterly lacks an atmosphere, and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off from even its puny gravity, so you’d need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy

    And here we go with the perpetual motion machine again.



    The Earth is a planet, has an atmosphere, but ain’t distant and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off, you’ll need rockets. Note that Mars’atmosphere is mostly CO2 and would be unbreathable if it were thick enough to breath, which it’s not.

    Mars is a planet, has a very thin atmosphere, isn’t particularly distant, your crap can’t lift from there, you’ll need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    more electric energy

    So why don’t you just FLY THE DAMN THING? Oh. Wait. You can’t it
    doesn’t work.



    Venus is a planet, has a very thick, very hot, atmosphere full of CO2 and SO2. And it rotates backwards, so that the Sun rises in the west. And it rotates very slowly, its day is longer than its year. And it’s not particularly distant. And your crap can’t lift from there.

    http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy

    Repeating the same bullshit about perpetual motion machines won’t make it true.



    Mercury is a planet, but has no atmosphere, is very hot, and your crap can’t generate the accel to lift from there.

    Pluto is no longer a planet, is vey cold, and your crap can’t lift from there.

    The gas giants ain’t ‘terrestrial’ planets, and your crap most definitely can’t lift from any of them.

    lowering PNN impedance at .01 ohm http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    lift off !
    I need a kilopowe

    Lots of ways to get power. Hell, you could get a unit from NASA. https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

    But you won’t. Your crap can’t lift it.





    So you’re going extra-solar to get to the ‘distant’ planets, eh? Hmm. A
    craft making one gee continuous accel would take about a year to make it to c, covering maybe half a light-year, and, of course, another year to decelerate back down. Time to Proxima Centuri, the star nearest to Sol, would
    be maybe five and a half years (one year accel, one year decel, three and a bit years coasting at c.) Your crap can’t push one gee. Your crap can’t push one tenth of a gee.

    violating II newton law of motion mass decrease http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    to speed faster than light

    So you’re going FTL, eh? I guess that having two imposibilies (reactionless drive and perpetual motion), you might as well claim a third.




    It would be interesting to see you try to go to ‘distant terrestrial planets’.

    In the meantime, the ISS crew needs someone to give them a lift home, their Russian shitpile has gone all Russian.

    we need a modern Fermi nuclear reactor http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg ... for more electric energy for PNN

    And again with the perpetual motion


    https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/30/nasa_iss_soyuz_rescue/
    So why don’t you fly on up and offer them a lift down? Other than, oh, your
    stuff doesn’t bloody work?

    PNN works and Artritic (artemis) is a comic WC

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com//patent

    And again the attacks on tech that actually works.

    If your stuff works, FLY IT UP TO ORBIT NOW. You can’t, because it
    doesn’t work. And it never will.

    And Dean had patents in 1959. His stuff didn’t work, either.

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  • From erik simpson@21:1/5 to WolfFan on Sat Dec 31 11:39:02 2022
    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 11:05:35 AM UTC-8, WolfFan wrote:
    On Dec 31, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<c73d7e9d-7f3f-45b7...@googlegroups.com>):
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 15:30:36 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 30, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<8e55262c-a7e2-4b4c...@googlegroups.com>):


    https://www.focus.it/scienza/spazio/scoperta-esopianeti-simili-alla-terra

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P
    22-
    LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN
    It doesn’t work. They won’t be able to make it fly.


    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica1.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica2.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica3.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica4.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica5.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica7.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica8.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica10.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamericana11.JPG
    Hmm. ‘Distant’ ‘terrestrial-like’ planets, eh? Let’s see...

    The Moon ain’t distant, and ain’t a planet, and utterly lacks an atmosphere, and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off from
    even its puny gravity, so you’d need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    And here we go with the perpetual motion machine again.



    The Earth is a planet, has an atmosphere, but ain’t distant and your crap
    doesn’t generate enough access to lift off, you’ll need rockets. Note
    that Mars’atmosphere is mostly CO2 and would be unbreathable if it were
    thick enough to breath, which it’s not.

    Mars is a planet, has a very thin atmosphere, isn’t particularly distant,
    your crap can’t lift from there, you’ll need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    more electric energy
    So why don’t you just FLY THE DAMN THING? Oh. Wait. You can’t it doesn’t work.



    Venus is a planet, has a very thick, very hot, atmosphere full of CO2 and
    SO2. And it rotates backwards, so that the Sun rises in the west. And it rotates very slowly, its day is longer than its year. And it’s not particularly distant. And your crap can’t lift from there.

    http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    Repeating the same bullshit about perpetual motion machines won’t make it true.



    Mercury is a planet, but has no atmosphere, is very hot, and your crap can’t generate the accel to lift from there.

    Pluto is no longer a planet, is vey cold, and your crap can’t lift from
    there.

    The gas giants ain’t ‘terrestrial’ planets, and your crap most definitely can’t lift from any of them.

    lowering PNN impedance at .01 ohm http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    lift off !
    I need a kilopowe
    Lots of ways to get power. Hell, you could get a unit from NASA. https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

    But you won’t. Your crap can’t lift it.




    So you’re going extra-solar to get to the ‘distant’ planets, eh? Hmm.
    A
    craft making one gee continuous accel would take about a year to make it to
    c, covering maybe half a light-year, and, of course, another year to decelerate back down. Time to Proxima Centuri, the star nearest to Sol, would
    be maybe five and a half years (one year accel, one year decel, three and a
    bit years coasting at c.) Your crap can’t push one gee. Your crap can’t
    push one tenth of a gee.

    violating II newton law of motion mass decrease http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    to speed faster than light
    So you’re going FTL, eh? I guess that having two imposibilies (reactionless
    drive and perpetual motion), you might as well claim a third.



    It would be interesting to see you try to go to ‘distant terrestrial planets’.

    In the meantime, the ISS crew needs someone to give them a lift home, their
    Russian shitpile has gone all Russian.

    we need a modern Fermi nuclear reactor http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg ...
    for more electric energy for PNN
    And again with the perpetual motion


    https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/30/nasa_iss_soyuz_rescue/
    So why don’t you fly on up and offer them a lift down? Other than, oh, your
    stuff doesn’t bloody work?

    PNN works and Artritic (artemis) is a comic WC

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com//patent
    And again the attacks on tech that actually works.

    If your stuff works, FLY IT UP TO ORBIT NOW. You can’t, because it doesn’t work. And it never will.

    And Dean had patents in 1959. His stuff didn’t work, either.

    Check out https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/contact
    Zoom in on the map and select "Satelite". It seems to be a spot on a dirt
    road next to an auto-wrecking shop.

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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 15:43:12 2022
    On Dec 31, 2022, erik simpson wrote
    (in article<ddd1e9b6-94c2-4781-9601-fcf106651160n@googlegroups.com>):

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 11:05:35 AM UTC-8, WolfFan wrote:
    On Dec 31, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<c73d7e9d-7f3f-45b7...@googlegroups.com>):
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 15:30:36 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 30, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<8e55262c-a7e2-4b4c...@googlegroups.com>):


    https://www.focus.it/scienza/spazio/scoperta-esopianeti-simili-alla-terra

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid
    =P
    22-
    LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN
    It doesn’t work. They won’t be able to make it fly.


    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica1.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica2.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica3.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica4.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica5.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica7.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica8.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica10.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamericana11.JPG
    Hmm. ‘Distant’ ‘terrestrial-like’ planets, eh? Let’s see...

    The Moon ain’t distant, and ain’t a planet, and utterly lacks an atmosphere, and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off from
    even its puny gravity, so you’d need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    And here we go with the perpetual motion machine again.



    The Earth is a planet, has an atmosphere, but ain’t distant and your crap
    doesn’t generate enough access to lift off, you’ll need rockets. Note
    that Mars’atmosphere is mostly CO2 and would be unbreathable if it were
    thick enough to breath, which it’s not.

    Mars is a planet, has a very thin atmosphere, isn’t particularly distant,
    your crap can’t lift from there, you’ll need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    more electric energy
    So why don’t you just FLY THE DAMN THING? Oh. Wait. You can’t it doesn’t work.



    Venus is a planet, has a very thick, very hot, atmosphere full of CO2 and
    SO2. And it rotates backwards, so that the Sun rises in the west. And it
    rotates very slowly, its day is longer than its year. And it’s not particularly distant. And your crap can’t lift from there.

    http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    Repeating the same bullshit about perpetual motion machines won’t make it true.



    Mercury is a planet, but has no atmosphere, is very hot, and your crap can’t generate the accel to lift from there.

    Pluto is no longer a planet, is vey cold, and your crap can’t lift from
    there.

    The gas giants ain’t ‘terrestrial’ planets, and your crap most definitely can’t lift from any of them.

    lowering PNN impedance at .01 ohm http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    lift off !
    I need a kilopowe
    Lots of ways to get power. Hell, you could get a unit from NASA. https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

    But you won’t. Your crap can’t lift it.




    So you’re going extra-solar to get to the ‘distant’ planets, eh? Hmm.
    A
    craft making one gee continuous accel would take about a year to make it
    to
    c, covering maybe half a light-year, and, of course, another year to decelerate back down. Time to Proxima Centuri, the star nearest to Sol, would
    be maybe five and a half years (one year accel, one year decel, three and
    a
    bit years coasting at c.) Your crap can’t push one gee. Your crap can’t
    push one tenth of a gee.

    violating II newton law of motion mass decrease http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    to speed faster than light
    So you’re going FTL, eh? I guess that having two imposibilies (reactionless
    drive and perpetual motion), you might as well claim a third.



    It would be interesting to see you try to go to ‘distant terrestrial planets’.

    In the meantime, the ISS crew needs someone to give them a lift home, their
    Russian shitpile has gone all Russian.

    we need a modern Fermi nuclear reactor http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg ...
    for more electric energy for PNN
    And again with the perpetual motion


    https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/30/nasa_iss_soyuz_rescue/
    So why don’t you fly on up and offer them a lift down? Other than, oh,
    your
    stuff doesn’t bloody work?

    PNN works and Artritic (artemis) is a comic WC

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com//patent
    And again the attacks on tech that actually works.

    If your stuff works, FLY IT UP TO ORBIT NOW. You can’t, because it doesn’t work. And it never will.

    And Dean had patents in 1959. His stuff didn’t work, either.

    Check out https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/contact
    Zoom in on the map and select "Satelite". It seems to be a spot on a dirt road next to an auto-wrecking shop.

    Dosen’t surprise me.

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 14:05:11 2022
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 20:05:35 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 31, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<c73d7e9d-7f3f-45b7...@googlegroups.com>):
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 15:30:36 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 30, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<8e55262c-a7e2-4b4c...@googlegroups.com>):


    https://www.focus.it/scienza/spazio/scoperta-esopianeti-simili-alla-terra

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P
    22-
    LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN
    It doesn’t work. They won’t be able to make it fly.


    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica1.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica2.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica3.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica4.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica5.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica7.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica8.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica10.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamericana11.JPG
    Hmm. ‘Distant’ ‘terrestrial-like’ planets, eh? Let’s see...

    The Moon ain’t distant, and ain’t a planet, and utterly lacks an atmosphere, and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off from
    even its puny gravity, so you’d need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    And here we go with the perpetual motion machine again.
    The pnn experiment show NO PERPETUAL MOTION.
    You are a charlatan





    The Earth is a planet, has an atmosphere, but ain’t distant and your crap
    doesn’t generate enough access to lift off, you’ll need rockets. Note
    that Mars’atmosphere is mostly CO2 and would be unbreathable if it were
    thick enough to breath, which it’s not.

    Mars is a planet, has a very thin atmosphere, isn’t particularly distant,
    your crap can’t lift from there, you’ll need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    more electric energy
    So why don’t you just FLY THE DAMN THING? Oh. Wait. You can’t it doesn’t work.
    I repet that ion moteors work but don't fly. PNN au now is betten than a ion motor





    Venus is a planet, has a very thick, very hot, atmosphere full of CO2 and
    SO2. And it rotates backwards, so that the Sun rises in the west. And it rotates very slowly, its day is longer than its year. And it’s not particularly distant. And your crap can’t lift from there.

    http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    Repeating the same bullshit about perpetual motion machines won’t make it true.

    You are a charlatan


    cut

    lowering PNN impedance at .01 ohm http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    lift off !
    I need a kilopower
    Lots of ways to get power.


    Detail! ......Detail????!!!!

    Hell, you could get a unit from NASA.

    Rotfl

    https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

    Nasa hate PNN .... becouse is the end of comic rocketry


    But you won’t. Your crap can’t lift it.




    So you’re going extra-solar to get to the ‘distant’ planets, eh? Hmm.
    A
    craft making one gee continuous accel would take about a year to make it to
    c, covering maybe half a light-year, and, of course, another year to decelerate back down. Time to Proxima Centuri, the star nearest to Sol, would
    be maybe five and a half years (one year accel, one year decel, three and a
    bit years coasting at c.) Your crap can’t push one gee. Your crap can’t
    push one tenth of a gee.

    violating II newton law of motion mass decrease http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    to speed faster than light
    So you’re going FTL, eh? I guess that having two imposibilies (reactionless
    drive and perpetual motion), you might as well claim a third.



    It would be interesting to see you try to go to ‘distant terrestrial planets’.

    In the meantime, the ISS crew needs someone to give them a lift home, their
    Russian shitpile has gone all Russian.

    we need a modern Fermi nuclear reactor http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg ...
    for more electric energy for PNN
    And again with the perpetual motion

    word of a charlatan. Bet some money ($10,000 ? )
    with me on experimental PNN instead of talking nonsense.
    YOU will run away 100% !!! :-)
    To other in this NG : bet some money!

    too many falsehoods

    Stop

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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to You on Sun Jan 1 09:43:17 2023
    On Dec 31, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<63d75f20-42bc-4758-a441-f75de3ed6461n@googlegroups.com>):

    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 20:05:35 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 31, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<c73d7e9d-7f3f-45b7...@googlegroups.com>):
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 15:30:36 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 30, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<8e55262c-a7e2-4b4c...@googlegroups.com>):


    https://www.focus.it/scienza/spazio/scoperta-esopianeti-simili-alla-terra

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid
    =P
    22-
    LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN
    It doesn’t work. They won’t be able to make it fly.


    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica1.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica2.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica3.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica4.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica5.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica7.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica8.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica10.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamericana11.JPG
    Hmm. ‘Distant’ ‘terrestrial-like’ planets, eh? Let’s see...

    The Moon ain’t distant, and ain’t a planet, and utterly lacks an atmosphere, and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off from
    even its puny gravity, so you’d need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    And here we go with the perpetual motion machine again.
    The pnn experiment show NO PERPETUAL MOTION.

    You said that they do. I quoted you. You did not respond.

    You are a charlatan

    I suspect that you are unclear on the meaning of that word. Hint: one of us
    is trying to extract money from rubes by selling them a device which can be a reactionless driver except that it doesn’t work, and which is a perpetual motion machine of the second kind, except that that doesn’t work, either,
    and which, apparently, can go faster than light, which won’t work either. That person is a charlatan. That person is also not me.





    The Earth is a planet, has an atmosphere, but ain’t distant and your crap
    doesn’t generate enough access to lift off, you’ll need rockets. Note
    that Mars’atmosphere is mostly CO2 and would be unbreathable if it were
    thick enough to breath, which it’s not.

    Mars is a planet, has a very thin atmosphere, isn’t particularly distant,
    your crap can’t lift from there, you’ll need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    more electric energy
    So why don’t you just FLY THE DAMN THING? Oh. Wait. You can’t it doesn’t work.
    I repet that ion moteors work but don't fly. PNN au now is betten than a ion motor

    Except that ion motors work, your crap doesn’t.





    Venus is a planet, has a very thick, very hot, atmosphere full of CO2 and
    SO2. And it rotates backwards, so that the Sun rises in the west. And it
    rotates very slowly, its day is longer than its year. And it’s not particularly distant. And your crap can’t lift from there.

    http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    Repeating the same bullshit about perpetual motion machines won’t make it true.

    You are a charlatan

    Nope.


    cut

    lowering PNN impedance at .01 ohm http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    lift off !
    I need a kilopower
    Lots of ways to get power.

    Detail! ......Detail????!!!!

    I gave you a way.


    Hell, you could get a unit from NASA.

    Rotfl

    They’ll be happy to sell you one. And, unlike your stuff, it actually
    works.


    https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

    Nasa hate PNN .... becouse is the end of comic rocketry

    NASA’s kilopower thingie ain’t a rocket. You never even looked at the
    page.


    But you won’t. Your crap can’t lift it.




    So you’re going extra-solar to get to the ‘distant’ planets, eh? Hmm.
    A
    craft making one gee continuous accel would take about a year to make it
    to
    c, covering maybe half a light-year, and, of course, another year to decelerate back down. Time to Proxima Centuri, the star nearest to Sol, would
    be maybe five and a half years (one year accel, one year decel, three and
    a
    bit years coasting at c.) Your crap can’t push one gee. Your crap can’t
    push one tenth of a gee.

    violating II newton law of motion mass decrease http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    to speed faster than light
    So you’re going FTL, eh? I guess that having two imposibilies (reactionless
    drive and perpetual motion), you might as well claim a third.



    It would be interesting to see you try to go to ‘distant terrestrial planets’.

    In the meantime, the ISS crew needs someone to give them a lift home, their
    Russian shitpile has gone all Russian.

    we need a modern Fermi nuclear reactor http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg ...
    for more electric energy for PNN
    And again with the perpetual motion

    word of a charlatan.

    Nope.
    Bet some money ($10,000 ? )

    Buy a pig in a poke? But a pig that I _know_ won’t work? Fuck that for a
    game for soldiers.

    with me on experimental PNN instead of talking nonsense.

    Laddie, if your crap worked you could easily demonstrate it. You could send
    me a device, and I could test it. You will never, ever, do this.

    YOU will run away 100% !!! :-)
    To other in this NG : bet some money!

    Why?


    too many falsehoods

    Yes, you have been sprouting quite a few of those.


    Stop

    You won’t. It’s all that you have.

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 1 12:42:52 2023
    Il giorno domenica 1 gennaio 2023 alle 15:45:36 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 31, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<63d75f20-42bc-4758...@googlegroups.com>):
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 20:05:35 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 31, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<c73d7e9d-7f3f-45b7...@googlegroups.com>):
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 15:30:36 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 30, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<8e55262c-a7e2-4b4c...@googlegroups.com>):


    https://www.focus.it/scienza/spazio/scoperta-esopianeti-simili-alla-terra

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid
    =P
    22-
    LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN
    It doesn’t work. They won’t be able to make it fly.


    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica1.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica2.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica3.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica4.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica5.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica7.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica8.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica10.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamericana11.JPG
    Hmm. ‘Distant’ ‘terrestrial-like’ planets, eh? Let’s see...

    The Moon ain’t distant, and ain’t a planet, and utterly lacks an atmosphere, and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off
    from
    even its puny gravity, so you’d need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    And here we go with the perpetual motion machine again.
    The pnn experiment show NO PERPETUAL MOTION.
    You said that they do. I quoted you. You did not respond.

    You are a charlatan

    I suspect that you are unclear on the meaning of that word. Hint: one of us is trying to extract money from rubes by selling them a device which can be a
    reactionless driver except that it doesn’t work, and which is a perpetual motion machine of the second kind, except that that doesn’t work, either, and which, apparently, can go faster than light, which won’t work either. That person is a charlatan. That person is also not me.





    The Earth is a planet, has an atmosphere, but ain’t distant and your
    crap
    doesn’t generate enough access to lift off, you’ll need rockets. Note
    that Mars’atmosphere is mostly CO2 and would be unbreathable if it were
    thick enough to breath, which it’s not.

    Mars is a planet, has a very thin atmosphere, isn’t particularly distant,
    your crap can’t lift from there, you’ll need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    more electric energy
    So why don’t you just FLY THE DAMN THING? Oh. Wait. You can’t it doesn’t work.
    I repet that ion moteors work but don't fly. PNN au now is betten than a ion
    motor
    Except that ion motors work, your crap doesn’t.





    Venus is a planet, has a very thick, very hot, atmosphere full of CO2 and
    SO2. And it rotates backwards, so that the Sun rises in the west. And it
    rotates very slowly, its day is longer than its year. And it’s not particularly distant. And your crap can’t lift from there.

    http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    Repeating the same bullshit about perpetual motion machines won’t make it
    true.

    You are a charlatan
    Nope.


    cut

    lowering PNN impedance at .01 ohm http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more
    electric energy
    lift off !
    I need a kilopower
    Lots of ways to get power.

    Detail! ......Detail????!!!!
    I gave you a way.


    Hell, you could get a unit from NASA.

    Rotfl
    They’ll be happy to sell you one. And, unlike your stuff, it actually works.


    https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

    Nasa hate PNN .... becouse is the end of comic rocketry
    NASA’s kilopower thingie ain’t a rocket. You never even looked at the page.


    But you won’t. Your crap can’t lift it.




    So you’re going extra-solar to get to the ‘distant’ planets, eh?
    Hmm.
    A
    craft making one gee continuous accel would take about a year to make it
    to
    c, covering maybe half a light-year, and, of course, another year to decelerate back down. Time to Proxima Centuri, the star nearest to Sol,
    would
    be maybe five and a half years (one year accel, one year decel, three and
    a
    bit years coasting at c.) Your crap can’t push one gee. Your crap can’t
    push one tenth of a gee.

    violating II newton law of motion mass decrease http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    to speed faster than light
    So you’re going FTL, eh? I guess that having two imposibilies (reactionless
    drive and perpetual motion), you might as well claim a third.



    It would be interesting to see you try to go to ‘distant terrestrial
    planets’.

    In the meantime, the ISS crew needs someone to give them a lift home,
    their
    Russian shitpile has gone all Russian.

    we need a modern Fermi nuclear reactor http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg ...
    for more electric energy for PNN
    And again with the perpetual motion

    word of a charlatan.
    Nope.
    Bet some money ($10,000 ? )
    Buy a pig in a poke? But a pig that I _know_ won’t work? Fuck that for a game for soldiers.

    with me on experimental PNN instead of talking nonsense.
    Laddie, if your crap worked you could easily demonstrate it. You could send me a device, and I could test it. You will never, ever, do this.

    YOU will run away 100% !!! :-)
    To other in this NG : bet some money!
    Why?


    too many falsehoods

    Yes, you have been sprouting quite a few of those.


    Stop

    You won’t. It’s all that you have.

    With the shuttle it ended badly with Artemis it will be worse. In the sense that the propulsion to farts
    by comedian Artemis will outrun the failed Shuttle and manage to kill more than 14 astronauts. Nasa will have died on the moon since you don't want to see experimentally what comes from this patent https://www.propulsion-revolution.com//patent . All the
    Artemis-based media buzz will end in deaths on the Moon either from starvation or explosions or chemical propulsion failures. This scrap www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg which returns to the Earth braking like a frying pan, not even with a mass of 1% of
    what left, cannot be a spaceship which, like Columbus's caravels, colonized the americas .

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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 2 09:11:32 2023
    On Jan 1, 2023, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<0f4385af-4cc5-4305-9f85-808077fcbf0cn@googlegroups.com>):

    Il giorno domenica 1 gennaio 2023 alle 15:45:36 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 31, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<63d75f20-42bc-4758...@googlegroups.com>):
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 20:05:35 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 31, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<c73d7e9d-7f3f-45b7...@googlegroups.com>):
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 15:30:36 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Dec 30, 2022, pnn calmagorod wrote
    (in article<8e55262c-a7e2-4b4c...@googlegroups.com>):


    https://www.focus.it/scienza/spazio/scoperta-esopianeti-simili-alla-ter
    ra

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_c
    id
    =P
    22-
    LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    Some americans are already starting to reproduce PNN
    It doesn’t work. They won’t be able to make it fly.


    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica1.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica2.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica3.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica4.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica5.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica7.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica8.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamerica10.JPG
    www.asps.it/Pnnamericana11.JPG
    Hmm. ‘Distant’ ‘terrestrial-like’ planets, eh? Let’s see...

    The Moon ain’t distant, and ain’t a planet, and utterly lacks an
    atmosphere, and your crap doesn’t generate enough access to lift off
    from
    even its puny gravity, so you’d need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    And here we go with the perpetual motion machine again.
    The pnn experiment show NO PERPETUAL MOTION.
    You said that they do. I quoted you. You did not respond.

    You are a charlatan

    I suspect that you are unclear on the meaning of that word. Hint: one of us is trying to extract money from rubes by selling them a device which can be a
    reactionless driver except that it doesn’t work, and which is a perpetual motion machine of the second kind, except that that doesn’t work, either, and which, apparently, can go faster than light, which won’t work either. That person is a charlatan. That person is also not me.

    And you failed to address this.






    The Earth is a planet, has an atmosphere, but ain’t distant and your
    crap
    doesn’t generate enough access to lift off, you’ll need rockets.
    Note
    that Mars’atmosphere is mostly CO2 and would be unbreathable if it
    were
    thick enough to breath, which it’s not.

    Mars is a planet, has a very thin atmosphere, isn’t particularly distant,
    your crap can’t lift from there, you’ll need rockets.

    no .... http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    more electric energy
    So why don’t you just FLY THE DAMN THING? Oh. Wait. You can’t it doesn’t work.
    I repet that ion moteors work but don't fly. PNN au now is betten than a ion
    motor
    Except that ion motors work, your crap doesn’t.

    And this






    Venus is a planet, has a very thick, very hot, atmosphere full of CO2
    and
    SO2. And it rotates backwards, so that the Sun rises in the west. And it
    rotates very slowly, its day is longer than its year. And it’s not
    particularly distant. And your crap can’t lift from there.

    http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more electric energy
    Repeating the same bullshit about perpetual motion machines won’t make
    it
    true.

    You are a charlatan
    Nope.

    You made no comment



    cut

    lowering PNN impedance at .01 ohm http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg more
    electric energy
    lift off !
    I need a kilopower
    Lots of ways to get power.

    Detail! ......Detail????!!!!
    I gave you a way.

    Again you failed to address this.



    Hell, you could get a unit from NASA.

    Rotfl
    They’ll be happy to sell you one. And, unlike your stuff, it actually works.

    And this.



    https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

    Nasa hate PNN .... becouse is the end of comic rocketry
    NASA’s kilopower thingie ain’t a rocket. You never even looked at the page.

    And this.



    But you won’t. Your crap can’t lift it.




    So you’re going extra-solar to get to the ‘distant’ planets, eh?
    Hmm.
    A
    craft making one gee continuous accel would take about a year to make it
    to
    c, covering maybe half a light-year, and, of course, another year to
    decelerate back down. Time to Proxima Centuri, the star nearest to Sol,
    would
    be maybe five and a half years (one year accel, one year decel, three
    and
    a
    bit years coasting at c.) Your crap can’t push one gee. Your crap can’t
    push one tenth of a gee.

    violating II newton law of motion mass decrease http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    to speed faster than light
    So you’re going FTL, eh? I guess that having two imposibilies (reactionless
    drive and perpetual motion), you might as well claim a third.



    It would be interesting to see you try to go to ‘distant terrestrial
    planets’.

    In the meantime, the ISS crew needs someone to give them a lift home,
    their
    Russian shitpile has gone all Russian.

    we need a modern Fermi nuclear reactor http://www.asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
    ...
    for more electric energy for PNN
    And again with the perpetual motion

    word of a charlatan.
    Nope.

    And this

    Bet some money ($10,000 ? )
    Buy a pig in a poke? But a pig that I _know_ won’t work? Fuck that for a game for soldiers.

    And this


    with me on experimental PNN instead of talking nonsense.
    Laddie, if your crap worked you could easily demonstrate it. You could send me a device, and I could test it. You will never, ever, do this.

    I’m totally unsurprised that you failed to address this.


    YOU will run away 100% !!! :-)
    To other in this NG : bet some money!
    Why?


    too many falsehoods

    Yes, you have been sprouting quite a few of those.

    Or this



    Stop

    You won’t. It’s all that you have.

    With the shuttle it ended badly with Artemis it will be worse. In the sense that the propulsion to farts
    by comedian Artemis will outrun the failed Shuttle and manage to kill more than 14 astronauts. Nasa will have died on the moon since you don't want to see experimentally what comes from this patent https://www.propulsion-revolution.com//patent . All the Artemis-based media buzz will end in deaths on the Moon either from starvation or explosions or chemical propulsion failures. This scrap www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg which returns to the Earth braking like a frying pan, not even with a mass of 1% of what left, cannot be a spaceship which, like Columbus's caravels, colonized the americas .

    And again you attack something that works rather than showing how your stuff works. Mostly because your stuff doesn’t work.

    You are nothing but a scammer. You want people to fork over $10,000 or more
    to get to try to build something which will, allegedly, be:

    1. A reactionless drive

    2. A perpetual motion machine of the second kind

    3. A FTL drive

    All wrapped up in one package... which will never work. You decline to
    actually fly one. If the thing can’t lift from Earth, it might be useful in orbit, but to get ton orbit you’ll need rockets as it can’t lift from Earth. You spend all off your time bad-mouthing rockets. Exactly how you plan to get your stuff to orbit, so that it can actually do something useful, assuming that it works, which it doesn’t, is unclear. Why, it’s almost as if you don’t want anyone to actually be able to test your stuff in orbit. Why, oh, why, might this be so? I can think of a reason...

    Any further posts from you which don’t address the actual point or which do nothing except bad-mouth rockets will be ignored.

    Say hello to Dean for me, laddie.

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 2 10:16:09 2023
    Il giorno lunedì 2 gennaio 2023 alle 15:15:38 UTC+1 WolfFan ha scritto:
    On Jan 1, 2023, pnn calmagorod wrote


    CUT ……….. CUT

    With the shuttle it ended badly with Artemis it will be worse. In the sense
    that the propulsion to farts
    by comedian Artemis will outrun the failed Shuttle and manage to kill more than 14 astronauts. Nasa will have died on the moon since you don't want to
    see experimentally what comes from this patent https://www.propulsion-revolution.com//patent . All the Artemis-based media
    buzz will end in deaths on the Moon either from starvation or explosions or
    chemical propulsion failures. This scrap www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg which
    returns to the Earth braking like a frying pan, not even with a mass of 1% of
    what left, cannot be a spaceship which, like Columbus's caravels, colonized
    the americas .
    And again you attack something that works rather than showing how your stuff works. Mostly because your stuff doesn’t work.

    It works to fail :-) if NASA declares that with Artemis 1 returning losing 99.7% of its mass it will colonize the moon.
    I would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving $$$$$

    You are nothing but a scammer. You want people to fork over $10,000 or more to get to try to build something which will, allegedly, be:

    Just come to our laboratories to see if they work or reproduce them patiently with all the info provided in:
    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/ https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1
    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com//patent
    www.asps.it


    1. A reactionless drive

    2. A perpetual motion machine of the second kind

    3. A FTL drive

    All wrapped up in one package... which will never work. You decline to actually fly one. If the thing can’t lift from Earth, it might be useful in
    orbit, but to get ton orbit you’ll need rockets as it can’t lift from Earth. You spend all off your time bad-mouthing rockets. Exactly how you plan
    to get your stuff to orbit, so that it can actually do something useful, assuming that it works, which it doesn’t, is unclear. Why, it’s almost as
    if you don’t want anyone to actually be able to test your stuff in orbit. Why, oh, why, might this be so? I can think of a reason...

    Any further posts from you which don’t address the actual point or which do
    nothing except bad-mouth rockets will be ignored.

    Say hello to Dean for me, laddie.

    You are lying, we say that before buying F432BA, the buyer must verify its functioning.
    The $10,000 was for you who are sure PNN is not working. Will you understand? No because you are a forger who lies about everything. There is push without reactions as others say before me.
    You keep ranting about Dean thinking he could get around Newton using Newton. 😊

    I've already answered your other nonsense and I don't feel like adding anything else.
    However, a url dedicated to NASA will follow in which it will be demonstrated that NASA is lying if it says it can colonize the moon with FART PROPULSION 😊

    E.Laureti

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