• Re: Yes, George, you got this straight

    From Liberalism, turning men into women@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 25 20:51:25 2022
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    On 25 Jun 2022, "jecorbett19580@yahoo.com" <jecorbett19580@yahoo.com>
    posted some news:9cbfb8e8-8829-4792-9e2f-2b46ee91bda4n@googlegroups.com:

    "So let me get this straight. A state has the right to restrict
    abortions, but doesn't have the right to restrict firearms? Is that
    what we have now in these 'United' States?" George Takei tweeted.

    George wasn't bright enough to be one of the smart kids. I was impressed
    that William Shatner didn't stuff him in a bag and chuck him in a wood
    chipper.

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  • From pH@21:1/5 to turning men into women one fag at a on Sat Jun 25 22:24:32 2022
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution

    On 2022-06-25, Liberalism, turning men into women one fag at a time <queers@liberal-cunts.net> wrote:
    On 25 Jun 2022, "jecorbett19580@yahoo.com" <jecorbett19580@yahoo.com>
    posted some news:9cbfb8e8-8829-4792-9e2f-2b46ee91bda4n@googlegroups.com:

    "So let me get this straight. A state has the right to restrict
    abortions, but doesn't have the right to restrict firearms? Is that
    what we have now in these 'United' States?" George Takei tweeted.

    George wasn't bright enough to be one of the smart kids. I was impressed that William Shatner didn't stuff him in a bag and chuck him in a wood chipper.


    Yes. The States were reluctant to form a Confederation and wanted to insure maximum autonomy.

    The reulting Fedeal Gov't's powers, therefore, were restricted and limited
    to the 13 or 19 (whatever) powers enumerated in the Constitution.

    The States, on the other hand, powers were to be manifest and unlimited with most powers residing in the States and People.

    The right to bear arms is in the Bill of Rights as good old #2 (and "well-regulated" in those days meant to be made regular: ie: well-equipped)
    So the Feds have standing in this arena.

    Abortion is *not* in the Federal Gov't's list of duties and is rightlfully
    left to the States. It's one of those things which will be debated forever
    as the death penalty. This Supreme Court actually followed the law. Good
    for them.

    Our founders did not want centralization of power and neither should we if
    we had any sense.

    Off my soapbox....I feel much better now.....sigh.

    Pureheart in Aptos, CA

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  • From Daniel65@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 26 20:42:41 2022
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution

    pH wrote on 26/6/22 8:24 am:
    On 2022-06-25, Liberalism, turning men into women one fag at a time <queers@liberal-cunts.net> wrote:
    On 25 Jun 2022, "jecorbett19580@yahoo.com"
    <jecorbett19580@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:9cbfb8e8-8829-4792-9e2f-2b46ee91bda4n@googlegroups.com:

    "So let me get this straight. A state has the right to restrict
    abortions, but doesn't have the right to restrict firearms? Is
    that what we have now in these 'United' States?" George Takei
    tweeted.

    George wasn't bright enough to be one of the smart kids. I was
    impressed that William Shatner didn't stuff him in a bag and chuck
    him in a wood chipper.

    Yes. The States were reluctant to form a Confederation and wanted to
    insure maximum autonomy.

    The reulting Fedeal Gov't's powers, therefore, were restricted and
    limited to the 13 or 19 (whatever) powers enumerated in the
    Constitution.

    The States, on the other hand, powers were to be manifest and
    unlimited with most powers residing in the States and People.

    The right to bear arms is in the Bill of Rights as good old #2 (and "well-regulated" in those days meant to be made regular: ie:
    well-equipped) So the Feds have standing in this arena.

    I'm no expert on your Constitution but I though #2 gave you the Rite to
    bare Arms *as part of a (well organised??) Militia* not as any Tom, Dick
    or Harry entitlement!!
    --
    Daniel

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to daniel47@nomail.afraid.org on Mon Jun 27 05:49:02 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.hollywood, alt.startrek
    XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution

    On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 20:42:41 +1000, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    I'm no expert on your Constitution

    That is clear.

    but I though #2 gave you the Rite to
    bare Arms *as part of a (well organised??) Militia* not as any Tom, Dick
    or Harry entitlement!!

    Wrong. It does not give *any* rights. Nothing in the Bill of rights
    gives any rights to anyone.

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  • From Mighty Wannabe@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Mon Jun 27 08:56:11 2022
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution

    Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 6/27/2022 8:49 AM:
    On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 20:42:41 +1000, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    I'm no expert on your Constitution
    That is clear.

    but I though #2 gave you the Rite to
    bare Arms *as part of a (well organised??) Militia* not as any Tom, Dick
    or Harry entitlement!!
    Wrong. It does not give *any* rights. Nothing in the Bill of rights
    gives any rights to anyone.


    It is a God-given right for one to bare one's arms if one wants to. Long sleeves are too cumbersome.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 27 06:06:04 2022
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution

    On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 08:56:11 -0400, Mighty Wannabe <👩ðŸ?½â€?âš•ï¸?👨â€?âš•ï¸?👮👨ðŸ?¿â€?🚒👷@ðŸ?».ðŸ??🎖ï¸?>
    wrote:

    Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 6/27/2022 8:49 AM:
    On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 20:42:41 +1000, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    I'm no expert on your Constitution
    That is clear.

    but I though #2 gave you the Rite to
    bare Arms *as part of a (well organised??) Militia* not as any Tom, Dick >>> or Harry entitlement!!
    Wrong. It does not give *any* rights. Nothing in the Bill of rights
    gives any rights to anyone.


    It is a God-given right for one to bare one's arms if one wants to. Long >sleeves are too cumbersome.

    You ought to take that act on the road! It's SO FUNNY! I've never
    heard that before!

    No, I mean it!

    Take it on the road.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to queers@liberal-cunts.net on Mon Jun 27 12:51:04 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.startrek, alt.politics.usa.constitution

    "Liberalism, turning men into women one fag at a time" <queers@liberal-cunts.net> wrote in message news:XnsAEC18CF64EE1A6E4BC02@0.0.0.0...
    On 25 Jun 2022, "jecorbett19580@yahoo.com" <jecorbett19580@yahoo.com>
    posted some news:9cbfb8e8-8829-4792-9e2f-2b46ee91bda4n@googlegroups.com:

    "So let me get this straight. A state has the right to restrict
    abortions, but doesn't have the right to restrict firearms? Is that
    what we have now in these 'United' States?" George Takei tweeted.

    George wasn't bright enough to be one of the smart kids. I was impressed that William Shatner didn't stuff him in a bag and chuck him in a wood chipper.

    Well... he was a red shirt....

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to wNOSPAMp@gmail.org on Mon Jun 27 12:49:47 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.hollywood, alt.startrek
    XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution

    "pH" <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> wrote in message
    news:t981tv$3kjcg$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2022-06-25, Liberalism, turning men into women one fag at a time <queers@liberal-cunts.net> wrote:
    On 25 Jun 2022, "jecorbett19580@yahoo.com" <jecorbett19580@yahoo.com>
    posted some news:9cbfb8e8-8829-4792-9e2f-2b46ee91bda4n@googlegroups.com:

    "So let me get this straight. A state has the right to restrict
    abortions, but doesn't have the right to restrict firearms? Is that
    what we have now in these 'United' States?" George Takei tweeted.

    George wasn't bright enough to be one of the smart kids. I was impressed
    that William Shatner didn't stuff him in a bag and chuck him in a wood
    chipper.


    Yes. The States were reluctant to form a Confederation and wanted to
    insure
    maximum autonomy.

    The reulting Fedeal Gov't's powers, therefore, were restricted and limited
    to the 13 or 19 (whatever) powers enumerated in the Constitution.

    The States, on the other hand, powers were to be manifest and unlimited
    with
    most powers residing in the States and People.

    The right to bear arms is in the Bill of Rights as good old #2 (and "well-regulated" in those days meant to be made regular: ie:
    well-equipped)
    So the Feds have standing in this arena.

    Abortion is *not* in the Federal Gov't's list of duties and is rightlfully left to the States. It's one of those things which will be debated
    forever
    as the death penalty.

    I will simply note the death penalty is allowed under the 5th Amendment.

    This Supreme Court actually followed the law. Good
    for them.

    Our founders did not want centralization of power and neither should we if
    we had any sense.

    Off my soapbox....I feel much better now.....sigh.

    Pureheart in Aptos, CA

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  • From pH@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 27 22:51:56 2022
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution

    On 2022-06-27, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen> wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 20:42:41 +1000, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    I'm no expert on your Constitution

    That is clear.

    but I though #2 gave you the Rite to
    bare Arms *as part of a (well organised??) Militia* not as any Tom, Dick
    or Harry entitlement!!

    Wrong. It does not give *any* rights. Nothing in the Bill of rights
    gives any rights to anyone.


    Affirm.
    The U.S. founders operated on the assertion that our rights are innate, or God-given, if you will, and that "...governments are instituted among men to *protect* those rights."

    This is in direct opposition to the UN Declaration of Human Rights where
    they say that they get to enumerate one's rights with their good old item
    #22 I think, where it says they are the Boss in any case, list of 'rights' nonwithstanding.

    pH in Aptos

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 27 16:21:41 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.hollywood, alt.startrek
    XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution

    On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 22:51:56 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
    wrote:

    On 2022-06-27, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen> wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 20:42:41 +1000, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    I'm no expert on your Constitution

    That is clear.

    but I though #2 gave you the Rite to
    bare Arms *as part of a (well organised??) Militia* not as any Tom, Dick >>>or Harry entitlement!!

    Wrong. It does not give *any* rights. Nothing in the Bill of rights
    gives any rights to anyone.


    Affirm.
    The U.S. founders operated on the assertion that our rights are innate, or >God-given, if you will, and that "...governments are instituted among men to >*protect* those rights."

    This is in direct opposition to the UN Declaration of Human Rights where
    they say that they get to enumerate one's rights with their good old item
    #22 I think, where it says they are the Boss in any case, list of 'rights' >nonwithstanding.

    pH in Aptos

    Blue helmets make great targets, if they think they have the power to
    tell me I don't have the right to be armed.

    Funny that "paid vacations" are important enough for them to mention,
    but not self defense.

    Fuck 'em.

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