• Margaret Stapleton in Plantagenet Ancestry

    From fosgate3@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 22 19:04:04 2022
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset and
    nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~

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  • From Darrell E. Larocque@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 22 19:33:29 2022
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 10:04:05 PM UTC-5, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset and
    nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~

    The reference of VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965) pp. 96-103 must be the source for this possible marriage to John Stapleton. I have attempted to find the reference online without success. Sometimes a reference offers a possibility without explanation and that may
    be the case here.

    I wish I could be of help as I have been doing a lot of Stapleton research, but this Stapleton line appears to be an outlier.

    Darrell

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  • From William Acton@21:1/5 to Darrell E. Larocque on Sat Jan 22 23:32:20 2022
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 3:33:31 AM UTC, Darrell E. Larocque wrote:
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 10:04:05 PM UTC-5, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset and
    nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~
    The reference of VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965) pp. 96-103 must be the source for this possible marriage to John Stapleton. I have attempted to find the reference online without success. Sometimes a reference offers a possibility without explanation and that
    may be the case here.

    I wish I could be of help as I have been doing a lot of Stapleton research, but this Stapleton line appears to be an outlier.

    Darrell

    It's a mistake. The name of Margaret's husband(s) and the surnames of her two daughters are unknown.

    Transactions of Shropshire (1915), p. 221 https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh45shro/page/n493/mode/2up

    "De Banco, Easter, 10 Edw. 4., No. 343.
    SALOP. John Leghton, Richard Bondes & Joan his wife, Robert Cresset & Christine his wife,– Robert Mountfort & Thomas Acton were summoned at the suit of Thomas Horde & Joyce his wife in a plea that they should permit a partition to be made of the manors
    of Stepulton, Armegrove & Folhampton which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Armiger, the father of the said Joyce, and of whom she was one of the heirs, between the said Joyce & the said John Leghton son & heir of Elizabeth, daughter and the second
    of the heirs of the said John Stepulton and the said Richard & Joan the daughter and the third heir of the said John Stepulton & Robert Cresset and Christine the daughter of Margaret, the daughter and the fourth heir of the said John Stepulton, and the
    said Robert Mountfort in right of Mary late his wife and another of the heirs of the said Margaret, & Thomas Acton in right of Mary late his wife, the daughter and fifth heir of the said John Stepulton."

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  • From fosgate3@21:1/5 to William Acton on Sun Jan 23 05:52:59 2022
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 1:32:21 AM UTC-6, William Acton wrote:
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 3:33:31 AM UTC, Darrell E. Larocque wrote:
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 10:04:05 PM UTC-5, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset
    and nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~
    The reference of VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965) pp. 96-103 must be the source for this possible marriage to John Stapleton. I have attempted to find the reference online without success. Sometimes a reference offers a possibility without explanation and that
    may be the case here.

    I wish I could be of help as I have been doing a lot of Stapleton research, but this Stapleton line appears to be an outlier.

    Darrell
    It's a mistake. The name of Margaret's husband(s) and the surnames of her two daughters are unknown.

    Transactions of Shropshire (1915), p. 221 https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh45shro/page/n493/mode/2up

    "De Banco, Easter, 10 Edw. 4., No. 343.
    SALOP. John Leghton, Richard Bondes & Joan his wife, Robert Cresset & Christine his wife,– Robert Mountfort & Thomas Acton were summoned at the suit of Thomas Horde & Joyce his wife in a plea that they should permit a partition to be made of the
    manors of Stepulton, Armegrove & Folhampton which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Armiger, the father of the said Joyce, and of whom she was one of the heirs, between the said Joyce & the said John Leghton son & heir of Elizabeth, daughter and the
    second of the heirs of the said John Stepulton and the said Richard & Joan the daughter and the third heir of the said John Stepulton & Robert Cresset and Christine the daughter of Margaret, the daughter and the fourth heir of the said John Stepulton,
    and the said Robert Mountfort in right of Mary late his wife and another of the heirs of the said Margaret, & Thomas Acton in right of Mary late his wife, the daughter and fifth heir of the said John Stepulton."

    Good to know and thank you. I will update my records accordingly.

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  • From fosgate3@21:1/5 to Darrell E. Larocque on Sun Jan 23 05:52:17 2022
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 9:33:31 PM UTC-6, Darrell E. Larocque wrote:
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 10:04:05 PM UTC-5, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset and
    nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~
    The reference of VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965) pp. 96-103 must be the source for this possible marriage to John Stapleton. I have attempted to find the reference online without success. Sometimes a reference offers a possibility without explanation and that
    may be the case here.

    I wish I could be of help as I have been doing a lot of Stapleton research, but this Stapleton line appears to be an outlier.

    Darrell
    Thank you for the info you were able to provide. I appreciate it!

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  • From fosgate3@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 23 06:43:26 2022
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 7:53:00 AM UTC-6, fosgate3 wrote:
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 1:32:21 AM UTC-6, William Acton wrote:
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 3:33:31 AM UTC, Darrell E. Larocque wrote:
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 10:04:05 PM UTC-5, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset
    and nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~
    The reference of VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965) pp. 96-103 must be the source for this possible marriage to John Stapleton. I have attempted to find the reference online without success. Sometimes a reference offers a possibility without explanation and
    that may be the case here.

    I wish I could be of help as I have been doing a lot of Stapleton research, but this Stapleton line appears to be an outlier.

    Darrell
    It's a mistake. The name of Margaret's husband(s) and the surnames of her two daughters are unknown.

    Transactions of Shropshire (1915), p. 221 https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh45shro/page/n493/mode/2up

    "De Banco, Easter, 10 Edw. 4., No. 343.
    SALOP. John Leghton, Richard Bondes & Joan his wife, Robert Cresset & Christine his wife,– Robert Mountfort & Thomas Acton were summoned at the suit of Thomas Horde & Joyce his wife in a plea that they should permit a partition to be made of the
    manors of Stepulton, Armegrove & Folhampton which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Armiger, the father of the said Joyce, and of whom she was one of the heirs, between the said Joyce & the said John Leghton son & heir of Elizabeth, daughter and the
    second of the heirs of the said John Stepulton and the said Richard & Joan the daughter and the third heir of the said John Stepulton & Robert Cresset and Christine the daughter of Margaret, the daughter and the fourth heir of the said John Stepulton,
    and the said Robert Mountfort in right of Mary late his wife and another of the heirs of the said Margaret, & Thomas Acton in right of Mary late his wife, the daughter and fifth heir of the said John Stepulton."
    Good to know and thank you. I will update my records accordingly.
    Has anyone ever discovered which member of the Eyton family Margaret's daughter was supposed to have married?

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 23 12:38:05 2022
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:04:05 PM UTC-8, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset and
    nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~
    The information you've referenced in vol. 2 p. 93 of the 2nd edition of PA also appears in vol. 2 p. 640 of the more recent Royal Ancestry. Aside from the reference to VCH Wiltshire vol. 8 (which unfortunately does not appear to be available online),
    there are two sources listed for "Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414".

    The first source is Weaver's Somerset Medieval Wills, vol. 16, pp. 66-67, which is available via the FHL here: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/285169?availability=Family%20History%20Library The reference is to the 1414 will of Margaret
    Stapleton's grandmother Margaret Hakeluyt. The will mentions "Margaret Stepilton", but it's hard to see how one could conclude from this that Margaret "possibly married John Stapleton".

    The second source is Collections for a History of Staffordshire, 1914, p. 221. Several copies of this volume are available via Hathitrust, microfilmed from different library collections. None of of these copies has a page 221 - the volume ends with
    page 201. And the Stapleton name does not appear in the index for the volume. Something is amiss here....

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to lancast...@gmail.com on Sun Jan 23 15:00:31 2022
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 2:46:05 PM UTC-8, lancast...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 9:38:06 PM UTC+1, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:04:05 PM UTC-8, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset
    and nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~
    The information you've referenced in vol. 2 p. 93 of the 2nd edition of PA also appears in vol. 2 p. 640 of the more recent Royal Ancestry. Aside from the reference to VCH Wiltshire vol. 8 (which unfortunately does not appear to be available online),
    there are two sources listed for "Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414".

    The first source is Weaver's Somerset Medieval Wills, vol. 16, pp. 66-67, which is available via the FHL here: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/285169?availability=Family%20History%20Library The reference is to the 1414 will of Margaret
    Stapleton's grandmother Margaret Hakeluyt. The will mentions "Margaret Stepilton", but it's hard to see how one could conclude from this that Margaret "possibly married John Stapleton".

    The second source is Collections for a History of Staffordshire, 1914, p. 221. Several copies of this volume are available via Hathitrust, microfilmed from different library collections. None of of these copies has a page 221 - the volume ends with
    page 201. And the Stapleton name does not appear in the index for the volume. Something is amiss here....
    Might there be more than one edition (or volume)?
    I had thought of that, but there is no indication of multiple editions or volumes for that year in the collections of CHS that I looked at. I was also hoping that there might be a comprehensive index covering the entire series, or at least various
    segments of it, but I haven't been able to locate such and index.

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  • From lancaster.boon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to jhigg...@yahoo.com on Sun Jan 23 14:46:04 2022
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 9:38:06 PM UTC+1, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:04:05 PM UTC-8, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset and
    nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~
    The information you've referenced in vol. 2 p. 93 of the 2nd edition of PA also appears in vol. 2 p. 640 of the more recent Royal Ancestry. Aside from the reference to VCH Wiltshire vol. 8 (which unfortunately does not appear to be available online),
    there are two sources listed for "Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414".

    The first source is Weaver's Somerset Medieval Wills, vol. 16, pp. 66-67, which is available via the FHL here: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/285169?availability=Family%20History%20Library The reference is to the 1414 will of Margaret
    Stapleton's grandmother Margaret Hakeluyt. The will mentions "Margaret Stepilton", but it's hard to see how one could conclude from this that Margaret "possibly married John Stapleton".

    The second source is Collections for a History of Staffordshire, 1914, p. 221. Several copies of this volume are available via Hathitrust, microfilmed from different library collections. None of of these copies has a page 221 - the volume ends with
    page 201. And the Stapleton name does not appear in the index for the volume. Something is amiss here....

    Might there be more than one edition (or volume)?

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to John Higgins on Sun Jan 23 17:15:40 2022
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 12:38:06 PM UTC-8, John Higgins wrote:
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:04:05 PM UTC-8, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset and
    nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~
    The information you've referenced in vol. 2 p. 93 of the 2nd edition of PA also appears in vol. 2 p. 640 of the more recent Royal Ancestry. Aside from the reference to VCH Wiltshire vol. 8 (which unfortunately does not appear to be available online),
    there are two sources listed for "Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414".

    .I was mistaken when I said that VCH Wiltshire vol. 8 was not available online. In fact, it is online, and pp. 96-103 cited by Richardson comprise the section titled “Warminster- Manors” which is available here: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/
    wilts/vol8/pp96-103. The pertinent part of the discussion is about halfway down the section, in regard to the disposition of the Warminster property among the heirs of the four daughters of Sir Mathew Furneaux (among which heirs were the Stapleton
    family). The references to the Stapleton family are in these paragraphs:

    “The Warminster property was allotted to the descendants of the youngest of these daughters, Margaret, who had married Sir John Beaupré. Their daughter Isabel married John Longland (fn. 158) and left three daughters and coheirs. Of these the eldest,
    Margaret, married Sir Leonard Hackluyt, and left a daughter who married into the Stapleton family of Shropshire and had a son Leonard. The third, Anne, married John Farwaye and left two daughters, one of whom married Thomas Berkeley. At the division of
    the Furneaux property in 1421, Warminster was divided between Leonard Stapleton, who received 2/3, and Thomas Berkeley, who received ⅓. (fn. 159)

    Leonard Stapleton died without issue, and his widow Joyce sued his feoffees for a life estate in the lands in Warminster which had been promised her. (fn. 160) Stapleton's estates, however, went to the heirs of a certain John Stapleton, perhaps his
    brother, whose lands in Shropshire were the subject of a lawsuit in 1470. (fn. 161) The Warminster property was evidently divided between two of the coheirs of John Stapleton, for in 1483 William Ruynon quitclaimed all the lands in Warminster which he
    had by feoffment of Leonard Stapleton to George Booth and Katharine his wife, John Leighton, and Robert Cressett and Christine his wife. (fn. 162) Of these, Leighton was the son of Elizabeth, one of John Stapleton's coheirs. Elizabeth's sister Margaret
    had married a Cressett of Upton Cressett (Salop.), and left two daughters, one of whom married Robert Cressett and the other Robert Mountfort. (fn. 163) Mountfort's daughter and heir married George Booth of Dunham Massey, (Cheshire). (fn. 164) Thus of
    Stapleton's 2/3 of Furnax, ⅓ had passed to John Leighton and 1/6 each to Robert Cressett and George Booth.” [end quote]

    Note the reference to “a certain John Stapleton, perhaps his [Leonard Stapleton’s] brother”. This is presumably the same person that the Richardson narrative in PA and RA refers to when it says “Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton
    after 1414”. So this second John Stapleton would be, according to Richardson, a brother in-law (not brother) of Leonard Stapleton – but with no indication of exactly how he may be otherwise related to the family. BTW footnote 161 in the section
    refers to the Shropshire ANHS Transactions article mentioned earlier in this thread by William Acton – which does not entirely agree with the Richardson narrative.

    The elder John Stapleton was an MP and has a biography in HOP 1386-1421: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/stapleton-john-ii
    Some of the statements in that bio also appear to be at variance with the Richardson narrative in PA and RA.

    This is quite a mare’s nest – not just the Stapleton matter but the entire Furneaux inheritance. The sections in PA and RA are based almost entirely on a lengthy Richardson post in SGM in 2007 titled “Descendants of King John's alleged
    illegitimate daughter, Isabel, wife of Sir Richard Fitz Ives”. https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/0xjbaUOubo4/m/6DlUYQa0PIcJ It’s quite an impressive treatment of a very complex topic, but it may be time for a re-review of the
    material.

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  • From Darrell E. Larocque@21:1/5 to jhigg...@yahoo.com on Sun Jan 23 17:28:45 2022
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 8:15:42 PM UTC-5, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:
    The elder John Stapleton was an MP and has a biography in HOP 1386-1421: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/stapleton-john-ii
    Some of the statements in that bio also appear to be at variance with the Richardson narrative in PA and RA.

    This is quite a mare’s nest – not just the Stapleton matter but the entire Furneaux inheritance. The sections in PA and RA are based almost entirely on a lengthy Richardson post in SGM in 2007 titled “Descendants of King John's alleged
    illegitimate daughter, Isabel, wife of Sir Richard Fitz Ives”. https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/0xjbaUOubo4/m/6DlUYQa0PIcJ It’s quite an impressive treatment of a very complex topic, but it may be time for a re-review of the
    material.

    Twice during my research I have found HOP to be extremely accurate when it came to their biographies, and have contradicted a host of other sources which frankly got it wrong. I would highly recommend reviewing every source used at HOP and just maybe you
    might find something valuable. Just my observations...

    Darrell

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  • From William Acton@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 23 23:29:51 2022
    <snip>
    Leonard Stapleton died without issue, and his widow Joyce sued his feoffees for a life estate in the lands in Warminster which had been promised her. (fn. 160) Stapleton's estates, however, went to the heirs of a certain John Stapleton, perhaps his
    brother, whose lands in Shropshire were the subject of a lawsuit in 1470. (fn. 161) The Warminster property was evidently divided between two of the coheirs of John Stapleton, for in 1483 William Ruynon quitclaimed all the lands in Warminster which he
    had by feoffment of Leonard Stapleton to George Booth and Katharine his wife, John Leighton, and Robert Cressett and Christine his wife. (fn. 162) Of these, Leighton was the son of Elizabeth, one of John Stapleton's coheirs. Elizabeth's sister Margaret
    had married a Cressett of Upton Cressett (Salop.), and left two daughters, one of whom married Robert Cressett and the other Robert Mountfort. (fn. 163) Mountfort's daughter and heir married George Booth of Dunham Massey, (Cheshire). (fn. 164) Thus of
    Stapleton's 2/3 of Furnax, ⅓ had passed to John Leighton and 1/6 each to Robert Cressett and George Booth.” [end quote]

    Note the reference to “a certain John Stapleton, perhaps his [Leonard Stapleton’s] brother”.
    <snip>

    Leonard died childless. Clearly the John Stapleton referred to here is his father not his brother.

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to William Acton on Mon Jan 24 09:11:17 2022
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 11:29:52 PM UTC-8, William Acton wrote:
    <snip>
    Leonard Stapleton died without issue, and his widow Joyce sued his feoffees for a life estate in the lands in Warminster which had been promised her. (fn. 160) Stapleton's estates, however, went to the heirs of a certain John Stapleton, perhaps his
    brother, whose lands in Shropshire were the subject of a lawsuit in 1470. (fn. 161) The Warminster property was evidently divided between two of the coheirs of John Stapleton, for in 1483 William Ruynon quitclaimed all the lands in Warminster which he
    had by feoffment of Leonard Stapleton to George Booth and Katharine his wife, John Leighton, and Robert Cressett and Christine his wife. (fn. 162) Of these, Leighton was the son of Elizabeth, one of John Stapleton's coheirs. Elizabeth's sister Margaret
    had married a Cressett of Upton Cressett (Salop.), and left two daughters, one of whom married Robert Cressett and the other Robert Mountfort. (fn. 163) Mountfort's daughter and heir married George Booth of Dunham Massey, (Cheshire). (fn. 164) Thus of
    Stapleton's 2/3 of Furnax, ⅓ had passed to John Leighton and 1/6 each to Robert Cressett and George Booth.” [end quote]

    Note the reference to “a certain John Stapleton, perhaps his [Leonard Stapleton’s] brother”.
    <snip>

    Leonard died childless. Clearly the John Stapleton referred to here is his father not his brother.

    That was my opinion too, but Richardson obviously reached a different conclusion.

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  • From taf@21:1/5 to Darrell E. Larocque on Mon Jan 24 09:50:07 2022
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 5:28:46 PM UTC-8, Darrell E. Larocque wrote:

    Twice during my research I have found HOP to be extremely accurate when it came
    to their biographies, and have contradicted a host of other sources which frankly got
    it wrong. I would highly recommend reviewing every source used at HOP and just
    maybe you might find something valuable. Just my observations...

    I agree for the most part, but I have also found instances where incorrect genealogical information is provided that has simply been taken from sources like Vivian's Visitations of Devon without any attempt to independently evaluate the information.

    taf

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  • From Darrell E. Larocque@21:1/5 to taf on Mon Jan 24 12:38:01 2022
    On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 12:50:08 PM UTC-5, taf wrote:
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 5:28:46 PM UTC-8, Darrell E. Larocque wrote:

    Twice during my research I have found HOP to be extremely accurate when it came
    to their biographies, and have contradicted a host of other sources which frankly got
    it wrong. I would highly recommend reviewing every source used at HOP and just
    maybe you might find something valuable. Just my observations...
    I agree for the most part, but I have also found instances where incorrect genealogical information is provided that has simply been taken from sources like Vivian's Visitations of Devon without any attempt to independently evaluate the information.

    taf

    It is inevitable to find issues with just about every source, but I of course didn't mean to imply HOP was right in every instance. I am still fascinated how HOP was able to nail down the Walter Devereux parentage I was working on when a mind boggling
    number of sources got it wrong. I am hopeful that in the sources HOP provided for John Stapleton there might be a clue.

    I also agree that John Stapleton the father is plausible, and have no idea why Richardson assumed it was her husband.

    Darrell

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  • From Greg Cooke@21:1/5 to jhigg...@yahoo.com on Mon Jan 24 16:30:07 2022
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 1:38:06 PM UTC-7, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:04:05 PM UTC-8, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset and
    nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~
    The information you've referenced in vol. 2 p. 93 of the 2nd edition of PA also appears in vol. 2 p. 640 of the more recent Royal Ancestry. Aside from the reference to VCH Wiltshire vol. 8 (which unfortunately does not appear to be available online),
    there are two sources listed for "Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414".

    The first source is Weaver's Somerset Medieval Wills, vol. 16, pp. 66-67, which is available via the FHL here: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/285169?availability=Family%20History%20Library The reference is to the 1414 will of Margaret
    Stapleton's grandmother Margaret Hakeluyt. The will mentions "Margaret Stepilton", but it's hard to see how one could conclude from this that Margaret "possibly married John Stapleton".

    The second source is Collections for a History of Staffordshire, 1914, p. 221. Several copies of this volume are available via Hathitrust, microfilmed from different library collections. None of of these copies has a page 221 - the volume ends with
    page 201. And the Stapleton name does not appear in the index for the volume. Something is amiss here....

    FWIW: Just a guess here, but I suspect the reference to p221 probably refers to the Transactions reference first mentioned in William Acton's earlier posting and not the Collections volume.

    Greg

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to gdco...@gmail.com on Mon Jan 24 21:47:53 2022
    On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 4:30:09 PM UTC-8, gdco...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 1:38:06 PM UTC-7, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:04:05 PM UTC-8, fosgate3 wrote:
    In volume 2 of Plantagenet Ancestry, p.93, Richardson states Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414 but does not give any information regarding the line of this particular person. The name is presented in boldfaced typeset
    and nothing more. Was this an oversight by Mr. Richardson or is there simply no information regarding who this John Stapleton is?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    ~Glen~
    The information you've referenced in vol. 2 p. 93 of the 2nd edition of PA also appears in vol. 2 p. 640 of the more recent Royal Ancestry. Aside from the reference to VCH Wiltshire vol. 8 (which unfortunately does not appear to be available online),
    there are two sources listed for "Margaret Stapleton possibly married John Stapleton after 1414".

    The first source is Weaver's Somerset Medieval Wills, vol. 16, pp. 66-67, which is available via the FHL here: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/285169?availability=Family%20History%20Library The reference is to the 1414 will of Margaret
    Stapleton's grandmother Margaret Hakeluyt. The will mentions "Margaret Stepilton", but it's hard to see how one could conclude from this that Margaret "possibly married John Stapleton".

    The second source is Collections for a History of Staffordshire, 1914, p. 221. Several copies of this volume are available via Hathitrust, microfilmed from different library collections. None of of these copies has a page 221 - the volume ends with
    page 201. And the Stapleton name does not appear in the index for the volume. Something is amiss here....
    FWIW: Just a guess here, but I suspect the reference to p221 probably refers to the Transactions reference first mentioned in William Acton's earlier posting and not the Collections volume.

    Greg
    I assume you're basing this on the fact that both references refer to a page 221. What you're suggesting, of course, is that a genealogist of Richardson's caliber confused a 1915 issue of the Shropshire ANHS Transactions with a 1914 issue of Collections
    for a History of Staffordshire. That's a pretty serious error - I doubt that Richardson would be that careless.

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  • From Greg Cooke@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 25 05:44:58 2022
    The second source is Collections for a History of Staffordshire, 1914, p. 221. Several copies of this volume are available via Hathitrust, microfilmed from different library collections. None of of these copies has a page 221 - the volume ends with
    page 201. And the Stapleton name does not appear in the index for the volume. Something is amiss here....
    FWIW: Just a guess here, but I suspect the reference to p221 probably refers to the Transactions reference first mentioned in William Acton's earlier posting and not the Collections volume.

    Greg
    I assume you're basing this on the fact that both references refer to a page 221. What you're suggesting, of course, is that a genealogist of Richardson's caliber confused a 1915 issue of the Shropshire ANHS Transactions with a 1914 issue of
    Collections for a History of Staffordshire. That's a pretty serious error - I doubt that Richardson would be that careless.
    ==========
    John,
    I won't dispute DR's qualifications as a genealogist (though some might argue about some of his conclusions).

    That said, there's also no denying that there is no genealogist (ever) who has not made a mistake. It should not be surprising that within the ~3600 pages of RA that there are some errors. Personally, I have compiled a 15 page document of suggestions and
    corrections to RA. Granted, most of these are editorial in nature, including erroneous cross-references, various inconsistencies in wording, and many others due to post-publication research, but still, "mistakes were made."

    Greg

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  • From Darrell E. Larocque@21:1/5 to gdco...@gmail.com on Tue Jan 25 07:43:19 2022
    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 8:44:59 AM UTC-5, gdco...@gmail.com wrote:
    The second source is Collections for a History of Staffordshire, 1914, p. 221. Several copies of this volume are available via Hathitrust, microfilmed from different library collections. None of of these copies has a page 221 - the volume ends
    with page 201. And the Stapleton name does not appear in the index for the volume. Something is amiss here....
    FWIW: Just a guess here, but I suspect the reference to p221 probably refers to the Transactions reference first mentioned in William Acton's earlier posting and not the Collections volume.

    Greg
    I assume you're basing this on the fact that both references refer to a page 221. What you're suggesting, of course, is that a genealogist of Richardson's caliber confused a 1915 issue of the Shropshire ANHS Transactions with a 1914 issue of
    Collections for a History of Staffordshire. That's a pretty serious error - I doubt that Richardson would be that careless.
    ==========
    John,
    I won't dispute DR's qualifications as a genealogist (though some might argue about some of his conclusions).

    That said, there's also no denying that there is no genealogist (ever) who has not made a mistake. It should not be surprising that within the ~3600 pages of RA that there are some errors. Personally, I have compiled a 15 page document of suggestions
    and corrections to RA. Granted, most of these are editorial in nature, including erroneous cross-references, various inconsistencies in wording, and many others due to post-publication research, but still, "mistakes were made."

    Greg

    The pitfalls that we face are numerous, and I second this. I started off my journey working with medieval sources after Richardson in his MCA made my ancestor, Charles Barnes, a footnote and I had to work backwards through to get to a documented line
    within the MCA. I ended up finding some errors and a major discovery which needs correcting, so I wouldn't call it careless to make a mistake as we're human. I'm sure that DR appreciates all of the notes and if they don't end up making it into a future
    edition, there should be serious consideration of some sort of consolidated collaborative effort to note all of the corrections that are needed.

    Darrell

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  • From taf@21:1/5 to jhigg...@yahoo.com on Tue Jan 25 09:46:41 2022
    On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 9:47:55 PM UTC-8, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:

    I assume you're basing this on the fact that both references refer to a page 221. What
    you're suggesting, of course, is that a genealogist of Richardson's caliber confused a
    1915 issue of the Shropshire ANHS Transactions with a 1914 issue of Collections for
    a History of Staffordshire. That's a pretty serious error - I doubt that Richardson would
    be that careless.

    Except we KNOW he made a mistake - there is no page 221 in the named volume. He either got the page wrong (but the index doesn't show the person on a different page of that volume, though it must be said that indexes of this era were terribly incomplete)
    , he got the volume number wrong, or he named the wrong publication. Given he would have been shuffling back and forth among a small number of publications, it is a simple slip to mistakenly put in one source name when intending another, and such a slip
    is all the harder to catch because both the page number and the publication name would have looked familiar, without necessarily catching that they don't go together. I have found this kind of error in doing a final review of something I was writing,
    but can see how it easily could be missed (all the moreso given both the length of the work and the fact that it is self-published, without an editor double checking everything).

    Given that in associated generations he was citing a work with pertinent information on page 221 of a different publication, it is indeed the most likely explanation of the error that he accidentally put the wrong publication name in this citation.

    taf

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to gdco...@gmail.com on Tue Jan 25 11:30:53 2022
    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 5:44:59 AM UTC-8, gdco...@gmail.com wrote:
    The second source is Collections for a History of Staffordshire, 1914, p. 221. Several copies of this volume are available via Hathitrust, microfilmed from different library collections. None of of these copies has a page 221 - the volume ends
    with page 201. And the Stapleton name does not appear in the index for the volume. Something is amiss here....
    FWIW: Just a guess here, but I suspect the reference to p221 probably refers to the Transactions reference first mentioned in William Acton's earlier posting and not the Collections volume.

    Greg
    I assume you're basing this on the fact that both references refer to a page 221. What you're suggesting, of course, is that a genealogist of Richardson's caliber confused a 1915 issue of the Shropshire ANHS Transactions with a 1914 issue of
    Collections for a History of Staffordshire. That's a pretty serious error - I doubt that Richardson would be that careless.
    ==========
    John,
    I won't dispute DR's qualifications as a genealogist (though some might argue about some of his conclusions).

    That said, there's also no denying that there is no genealogist (ever) who has not made a mistake. It should not be surprising that within the ~3600 pages of RA that there are some errors. Personally, I have compiled a 15 page document of suggestions
    and corrections to RA. Granted, most of these are editorial in nature, including erroneous cross-references, various inconsistencies in wording, and many others due to post-publication research, but still, "mistakes were made."

    Greg
    You're correct - the word "careless" was perhaps too strong here.

    In checking adjacent sections of RA in which the Stapleton matter is discussed, I see that an erroneous reference to the 1914 issue of Collections for a History of Staffordshire was substituted for a reference to the 1915 issue of the Shropshire ANHS
    Transactions in at least four other paragraphs in the narrative. In other words, the error occurs five times. So, he made a mistake and copied it forward four times. At any rate, as Edward has noted earlier, it's hard to see how the article in the
    1915 issue of the Shropshire ANHS Transactions supports Richardson's conclusions.

    Two other articles are also cited several times throughout Richardson's narrative of the Furneaux inheritance (which also involves the Stapletons):
    Collectaneaa Topographica et Genealogica, vol.1 (1834), pp. 243-248 {Descendants of Matthew Furneaux]
    https://archive.org/details/collectaneatopo03nichgoog/page/n257/mode/2up?q=%22Descendants+of+Matthew+Furneaux%22
    Somerset and Dorset Notes and Queries vol 16 (1920, pp. 281-285 [The Co-Heirs of Furneaux]
    https://archive.org/details/notesqueriesfors16brid/page/280/mode/2up

    Both of these provide some support for Richardson's conclusions, but neither appears to adequately support his conclusions regarding the Stapleton family.

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  • From Douglas Richardson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 27 10:20:21 2022
    Dear Glen ~

    For your interest, I've copied below my current file account of the Stapleton-Deviock and related families.

    In response to your specific question, the identity of the husband of Margaret Stapleton [Generation 10, ii below] is not clear in contemporary records. We know of Margaret's existence from two records, namely the will of her grandmother, Margaret
    Hakeluyt, dated 1414, and a Common Pleas lawsuit dated 1470. The 1470 lawsuit clearly identifies two daughters for Margaret Stapleton, namely Mary and Christine. There is no reason to doubt the veracity of the 1470 lawsuit as both Mary and Christine
    and their respective husbands appear with other Stapleton family members in other contemporary records cited below. Unfortunately the 1470 lawsuit does not give the maiden names of either Mary or Christine, who were Margaret Stapleton's daughters. As
    such, it is necessary to fall back on other records to tell us their surname.

    According to Lennard & Vincent, Vis. of Warwick 1619 (H.S.P. 12) (1877): 54–56, Margaret's daughter Mary was the "daughter and heir of Leonard Stapleton.”

    And, according to Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 1 (H.S.P. 28) (1889): 157–158 , Margaret's daughter Christine was the "daughter and heir of John Stepleton, of Stepleton, Knt."

    As you can see, both visitations assign the surname Stapleton to both Mary and Christine, but differ as to the name of their father. Clearly Leonard Stapleton is an error, as Leonard was the known brother of Margaret Stapleton herself, thus uncle to the
    two girls.

    That leaves us with the statement in the Shropshire visitation that Christine was the daughter and heir of John Stepleton, Knt. I'm suspicious of this statement as there doesn't appear to be a Sir John Stapleton in the right generation to be the
    husband of Margaret Stapleton. Be that as it may, it should still be considered to be a possibility

    Inasmuch as both visitations assign Stapleton as the birth surname of both Mary and Christine, I'm inclined to accept those statements, albeit the name of the father differ in these accounts.

    Should you encounter additional information regarding this matter, by all means, be sure to let me know.

    Douglas Richardson, Author

    + + + + + + + + +

    9. MARGARET LONGLAND, daughter and co-heiress, born about 1362 (aged 18 in 1380). She married (1st) JOHN DEVIOCK (or DEVYOK, DEVIOKE). They had one daughter, Margaret. JOHN DEVIOCK died before 16 August 1380. In 1381 Roger Lamarl sued Margaret Devyok,
    John Fareweye and Agnes his wife, and John Rewenon [Ruynon] and Joan his wife, daughters and heirs of John Langelond in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £40. In 1384 William Bowyer, Citizen and skinner of London, sued Margaret Devyok in
    the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £20. Margaret married (2nd) before 1394 LEONARD HAKELUYT (or HAKLUYT), Knt., of Stoke Edith, Herefordshire, and, in right of his wife, of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset, and Degembris (in Newlyn East),
    Tremough, and Carveth (in Mabe), Cornwall, Knight of the Shire for Herefordshire, 1385, 1388, 1394, Escheator of Herefordshire, 1401–2, Sheriff of Herefordshire, 1402, 1408–9, Knight of the Shire for Somerset, 1404, 1406, son of Edmund Hakluyt, Knt.,
    of Longland, Herefordshire, by his wife, Emma. He was born about 1352. They had no issue. In 1388 he sued Thomas Gournay, of Over ?Waye, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £6 7s. 8d. In 1390 he claimed the manor of Shepton Mallet,
    Somerset, by virtue of a prior settlement dated 1368. In 1394 and again in 1411, he and Margaret his wife made a settlement of her lands. In 1394 he sued Roger Pauncefot in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Weston by
    Yarkhill, Herefordshire. In 1394 and 1398 John Coleman, Thomas Blast, and two others, executors of the will of Joan, widow of Edmund Fitz Herbert, sued him in a Sussex plea regarding a debt of 25 marks. In 1399 he sued Hugh Frensch, parson of the
    church of Zedfyn, and John Drake in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £20. In 1404 he was granted the keeping of Mawardyn and Much Marcle, Herefordshire as long as the manors remain in the king’s hand. The same year he presented to the
    church of Shepton Mallet, Somerset. In 1408 he sued William More, of Linton, Herefordshire, and others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Much Marcle, Herefordshire. In 1409 he sued Thomas Mill and others in the Court of
    Common Pleas regarding a debt of £28 8s. 11d. He was a legatee in the 1410 will of Thomas Clanvowe, Knt. In 1412 he sued Richard Amquy and John Amquy in the Court of Common Pleas in a Somerset plea regarding a trespass. At an unknown date, Margaret
    his wife claimed the right to dig turves in the manor of Edington, Somerset by a grant dated c.1269–89 made by John Fitz Geoffrey, lord of Edington, to her ancestor, Hugh de Langlonde and Eleanor his wife. SIR LEONARD HAKELUYT left a will dated 3
    August 1413, proved 17 August 1413. His widow, Margaret, took a vow of perpetual chastity 2 October 1413. In Jan. 1413/4 she was dispensed from a vow she voluntarily made for life to fast every Saturday, which she was unable to do owing to the
    infirmity of her body. In 1414 Margaret was co-heiress to her Furneaux cousin, Alice Blount, wife successively of Richard Stafford, Knt., and Richard Stury, Knt. Margaret left a will dated 29 July 1414, proved 11 August 1414, requesting burial in the
    church of the Friars Minor at Bridgwater, Somerset by her late husband, Sir Leonard Hakluyt.

    Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243–248 (Furneaux ped.: “The furst doughter Margaret [Longland] maried Leonard Hakeluet, kt. of whom commyth Stepulton of Shroppeshier, and had for his parte lands besides Warmester, and in divers places.”). Benolte,
    Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux ped.: “Margerett [Longland], ux. Leonard hackluit.”). Antiq. 14 (1886): 115 (Deviock arms: Party per saltier argent and sable). Weaver, Somerset Incumbents (1889): 180. List of Sheriffs for
    England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 60. Giffard & Bowett, Regs. of Walter Giffard & Henry Bowett, Bishops of Bath & Wells (Somerset Rec. Soc. 13) (1899): 57. Procs. Bath Natural Hist. & Antiq. Field Club 9 (1901): 188–201. Weaver,
    Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 61–62 (will of Leonard Hakeluyt, Knt.), 66–67 (will of Margaret Hakeluyt). Bubwith, Reg. of Nicholas Bubwith Bishop of Bath & Wells 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 29) (1914): 148, 167. Somerset &
    Dorset Notes & Queries 16 (1920): 281–285 (Furneaux ped. dated 1421: “Et predicta Margareta [de Longland] prima filia predictorum Johannis [de Longland] et Isabelle marritata fuit Johanni Devyok et habuerunt exitum Margaretam [Devyok] que fuit
    marritata Johanni Stepulton et habuerunt exitum Leonardum Stepulton.”). C.F.R. 9 (1926): 214–215; 12 (1931): 279–280. Year Books of Richard II 7 (Ames Found. 10) (1929): 159–166. Rowe & Tapley-Soper, Cornwall Feet of Fines 2 (Devon & Cornwall
    Rec. Soc. 1950) (1950): 75, 109. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. Chancery Misc. 3 (List & Index Soc. 26) (1967): 255. Dunning, Hylle Cartulary (Somerset Rec. Soc. 68) (1968): 62. Cal. IPM 15 (1970): 101–102. List of Escheators for England &
    Wales (List & Index Soc. 72) (1971): 61. Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 3 (1992): 265–267 (biog. of Leonard Hakluyt). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/483, image 415 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no483/483_0415.htm). Court of
    Common Pleas, CP40/494, image 92 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no494/494_0092.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/511, image 130 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no511/511_0130.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/533,
    image 108 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no533/533_0108.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/533, image 147 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no533/533_0147.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/553, image 1339d (available
    at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/R2/CP40no553/bCP40no553dorses/IMG_1339.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/589, image 57f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/H4/CP40no589/aCP40no589fronts/IMG_0057.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/594, image 1102d
    (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no594/bCP40no594dorses/IMG_1102.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/605, image 608f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no605/aCP40no605fronts/IMG_0608.htm). Court of King’s Bench, KB27/550, image 93f
    (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/R2/KB27no550/aKB27no550fronts/IMG_0093.htm).

    10. MARGARET DEVIOCK, daughter and heiress, evidently born before 1380. She married before 1400 (as his 1st wife) JOHN STAPLETON (or STEPULTON), Esq., of Stapleton, Shropshire, Dormington, Herefordshire, etc., Knight of the Shire for Shropshire, 1421,
    2nd son of John Stapleton, of Stapleton and Oaks (in Pontesbury), Shropshire, Dormington, Herefordshire, etc., by Katherine, daughter and co-heiress of Edward Burnell, of Langley, Shropshire. They had one son, Leonard, Esq., and two daughters, Margaret
    and Elizabeth. His wife, Margaret, died before 1421. He married (2nd) ] MARGERY _____. They had three daughters, Joyce (wife of Thomas Horde), Joan (wife of Thomas Walwyn and Richard Bondy), and Mary (wife of Thomas Acton). In 1421 his 1st wife
    Margaret’s son, Leonard Stapleton, was her representative as one of the co-heirs named in the division that year of the estates of her Furneaux cousin, Alice (Blount) (Stafford) Stury. In 1438 there was a fire at his moated manor house at Stapleton,
    Shropshire. In 1443 William Adam, of Longden, and Richard Adam, of Cardington, granted John Stepulton, of Stapleton, Shropshire, the manor and advowson of the church of Stapleton, Shropshire for life, with successive remainders to Leonard Stepulton and
    his heirs; the heirs of the said John begotten on the bodies of Margery his wife and Margaret his late wife; John [Talbot], Earl of Shrewsbury, and Margaret his wife and their heirs. JOHN STAPLETON, Esq., was living in 1446, but died before 1450. In
    1470 Thomas Horde and Joyce his wife sued John Leghton, Richard Bondy and Joan his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Robert Mountfort, and Thomas Acton in the Court of Common Pleas in a plea that should be permitted to make a partition of the
    manors of Stepulton, Armegrove, and Folhampton (in Wistanstow), Shropshire, which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Esq., father of the said Joyce.

    Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243–248. Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux ped.: “Margerett, ux. John Stepleton.”). Bye-gones (1903): 195. Colls. Hist. Staffs. 1914 (1914): 221. Somerset & Dorset Notes & Queries 16 (
    1920): 281–285 (Furneaux ped. dated 1421: “Et predicta Margareta [de Beaupre] prima filia predictorum Johannis et Isabelle marritata fuit Johanni Devyok et habuerunt exitum Margaretam [Devyok] que fuit marritata Johanni Stepulton et habuerunt exitum
    Leonardum Stepulton.”). Wedgwood, Hist. of Parliament 1 (1936): 534–535 (biog. of John Leighton), 469 (biog. of Thomas Horde). VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. VCH Shropshire 8 (1968): 164, 266. Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 3 (1992):
    265–267 (biog. of Leonard Hakluyt); 4 (1992): 461–462 (biog. of John Stapleton). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm). National Archives, CP 25/1/195/22, #
    26; CP 25/1/195/22, #27 [see abstract of fines at http:// www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].

    Children of Margaret Deviock by John Stapleton, Esq.:

    i. LEONARD STAPLETON (or STEPULTON, STEPILTON), Esq., of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset, and, in right of his 2nd wife, of Sezincote, Gloucestershire and Milcote, Warwickshire, son and heir by his father’s 1st marriage, born in or before 1400 (minor
    in 1418, of age in 1421). He was a legatee in the 1413 will of his step-grandfather, Leonard Hakluyt, Knt. He was a legatee in the 1414 will of his grandmother, Margaret Hakluyt. In the period, 1426–32, he sued Hugh Stapleton, Gent., and Hugh his
    son in Chancery for killing his horses and cattle at Stapleton, Shropshire, and lying in wait to kill him. He served as one of the feoffees for Edward Benstede, Knt. in 1429. In 1435 he, John Greville, and others were pardoned for acquiring the manor
    of Braunton Gorges, Devon without license from Theobald Gorges alias Russell. He married (1st) before Trinity 1441 MARY _____. In 1441 he and Mary his wife sold the manor of Walton in Gordano, Somerset to Thomas Hethe for 200 marks of silver. In 1442
    he and Mary his wife settled his manor of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset on themselves and their issue, with reversion to the right heirs of Leonard. He was appointed one the executors of the 1444 will of Edward Leighton, of Stretton in the Dale,
    Shropshire. He married (2nd) before 11 March 1445/6 JOYCE COKESEY (or COOKSEY), widow of Walter Beauchamp, Knt. [see POWICK 10.i], of Brewham, Somerset (died before 1427), and John Greville, Esq. [see POWICK 10.i], of Sezincote, Ebrington, Lasborough (
    in Westonbirt), and Meon, Gloucestershire (died 30 Sept.1444), and daughter of Walter Cokesey, Esq., of Great Cooksey (in Upton Warren), Caldwell (in Kidderminster), Great Witley, and Sutton (in Tenbury), Worcestershire, Hunningham, Warwickshire, etc.,
    by Maud (descendant of King John), daughter of Thomas Harcourt, Knt. [see HARCOURT 8.ii for her ancestry]. She was born about 1406 (aged 40 in 1446, 54 in 1460). In 1444, as “Joyce Beauchampe, formerly wife of John Grevel, of Sesyncote, Esq.,” she
    and her sons, John and Maurice Grevel, were admitted members of the gild of Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire. Joyce was heiress in 1445 to her brother, Hugh Cokesey, Knt., by which she inherited the manors of Tetbury, Gloucestershire, Bramley and
    Little Bookham, Surrey, Bidlington (in Bramber), Sussex, Hunningham and Willey, Warwickshire, Great Cooksey (in Upton Warren), Worcestershire, etc. He was granted an exemption for life from being put on assizes, juries, recognitions, etc. in 1448.
    LEONARD STAPLETON, Esq., died before 1450. In the period, 1448–56, as “Joice widow of Sir Walter Beauchamp, Knt., and late the wife of Leonard Stepulton, Esq.” she sued William Bastard and two others, feoffees of Leonard Stepulton, Esq., in
    Chancery regarding the manor of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset and lands in Warminster, Wiltshire. In 1460, as “Joyce Beauchamp,” she sued Edmund Busshell, Gent., of Marston Sicca, Gloucestershire, and another in the Court of Common Pleas
    regarding a trespass at Pebworth, Gloucestershire. Lady Joyce Beauchamp presented to the church of Witley, Worcestershire in 1461. In 1463 Joyce Beauchampe, widow, sued John Fadyr, Gent., of Buckenham Castle, Norfolk, in the Court of Common Pleas
    regarding the theft of charters, writings, and muniments. In 1465, as “Lady Joyce Beauchamp, sister and heiress of Hugh Cokesey, knight,” she demised the site of a watermill at Horsley, Cheshire, together with a watercourse called Horseleywell, for
    a term of 40 years to William Underwoode, of Peckforton, Cheshire, and his son, John. In 1465, as “Joyce Beauchamp, widow,” she sued John Colyn, of Willey, Warwickshire, husbandman, regarding a trespass at Willey, Warwickshire. The same year, as “
    Joyce widow of Walter Beauchamp,” she sued Robert Kyng, of Cranley, Surrey, carpenter, and five others regarding a trespass at Cranley, Surrey. In 1467 she sued Ralph Fitz Herbert, Gent., of Yoxall, Staffordshire, and others in the Court of Common
    Pleas regarding breaking into her close at Eyton (in Dovedale), Derbyshure and cutting down her trees. She presented to the chapel of St. Mary, Kidderminster, Worcestershire in 1468 and 1469, as “Lady Joyce Beauchamp, sister and heir of Hugh Cokesey,
    Knt.,” and again in 1473 as “Joyce Beauchamp, widow.” In 1469 she founded the chantry of St. Catherine in Kidderminster, Worcestershire. In 1470 she sued William Russhale, of Tymber Hougle, Worcestershire, husbandman, in the Court of Common Pleas
    regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Tymber Hougle, Worcestershire. Joyce died 19 July 1473, and was buried in Kidderminster, Worcestershire.

    Dugdale, Antiqs. of Warwickshire (1730): 72–73 (Herdeburgh ped.). Collins, Peerage of England 3 (1756): 661–663 (sub Grevile, Earl Brooke). Universal Mag. of Knowledge & Pleasure 27 (1760): 318–319. Nash, Colls. for the Hist. of Worcestershire 2
    (1782): 50 (Cokesey ped.), 52, 57, 468–469. Fosbrooke, Abstracts of Recs. & MSS respecting the County of Gloucester (1807): 392–396. Lysons & Lysons, Magna Britannia 5 (1817): 129–142. Ormerod, Hist. of Chester 2 (1819): 333 (Cokesay ped.), 336
    337. Coll. Top. et Gen. 6 (1840): 74–75. Lipscomb, Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 1 (1847): 267–268 (Greville ped.). Sussex Arch. Colls. 8 (1856): 97–131. Napier, Swyncombe & Ewelme (1858): 30–34, 46. Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 37 (
    1876): 156–157. Genealogist 6 (1882): 28 (Calendar of Lambeth Wills: “Grevyle, John, Esq. Diocese of Worcester. [Date: 1445]. 128a Stafford.”). Colls. Hist. Staffs. 6 (1883): 320–321 (will of Edward Leighton); n.s. 4 (1901): 150, 152.
    Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux ped.: “Leonard Stepleton.”). Fortescue, Governance of England (1885): 43. Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 2 (H.S.P. 29) (1889): 424–427 (St. Peter ped.:
    Jocosa [Cocksey] soror et hæres nupta Joh’s Greuill de Camden”). Desc. Cat. Ancient Deeds 1 (1890): 505–516; 3 (1900): 282. C.P.R. 1422–1429 (1901): 539. Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 61–62 (will of
    Leonard Hakeluyt, Knt.), 66–67 (will of Margaret Hakeluyt). Feudal Aids 4 (1906): 384. Green, Feet of Fines for Somerset 4 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 22) (1906): 100, 103. C.P.R. 1429–1436 (1907): 456. C.P.R. 1446–1452 (1909): 154. VCH Surrey 3 (1911)
    : 80–86, 335–338. VCH Worcester 3 (1913): 158–173, 173–179, 231–234; 4 (1924): 328–331 (Cooksey arms: Argent a bend azure with three cinqfoils or thereon), 372–375. Maxwell-Lyte, Docs. & Extracts illus. History of the Honour of Dunster (
    Somerset Rec. Soc. 33) (1917): 162–163, 165. Ligon, Madresfield Muniments (1929): 11–17. VCH Warwick 6 (1951): 117–120, 259–261. VCH Sussex 6(1) (1960): 200–214. VCH Gloucester 6 (1965): 100; 11 (1976): 264–269, 285–288. VCH Wiltshire
    8 (1965): 96–103. VCH Shropshire 8 (1968): 164. Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 3 (1992): 240–242 (biog. of John Greville). Brooks & Pevsner, Buildings of England: Worcestershire (2007): 298. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/796, image 1348d (
    available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no796/bCP40no796dorses/IMG_1348.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/807, image 648f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no807/aCP40no807fronts/IMG_0648.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/814,
    image 1138d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no814/bCP40no814dorses/IMG_1138.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/814, image 1203d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no814/bCP40no814dorses/IMG_1203.htm). Court of Common
    Pleas, CP40/837, image 310d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no837/bCP40no837dorses/IMG_0310.htm). Devon Rec. Office: Fortescue of Castle Hill, 1262M/TG/7 (Thomas Lyttylton styled “cousin and counsel” by Dame Joyce Beauchamp in
    letter dated c.1456) (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk). National Archives, C 1/7/159 (Date: 1426–32: Leonard Stepilton, Esq. v. Hugh Stepilton, Gent., and Hugh his son); C 1/17/64; C 146/1289; E 210/11278 (available at http://
    discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk). National Archives, CP 25/1/195/22, #26; CP 25/1/195/22, #27 [see abstract of fines at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].

    ii. MARGARET STAPLETON. She was a legatee in the 1414 will of her grandmother, Margaret Hakluyt, who bequeathed her 10 marks. She married after 1414 _____ (possibly JOHN STAPLETON). They had two daughters, Mary and Christine (or Christian). Margaret
    died sometime before 1455. Eyton, Antiqs. of Shropshire 6 (1858): 118. Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 66–67 (will of Margaret Hakeluyt). Colls. Hist. Staffs. 1914 (1914): 221. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103.
    Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm).

    Children of Margaret Stapleton, by uncertain husband, _____ (possibly John Stapleton):

    a. MARY STAPLETON, daughter and co-heiress. She married before 1455 ROBERT MONTFORT (or MOUNTFORT, MOUNFORD), Esq., styled “the younger,” of Church Bickenhall, Warwickshire, younger son of Baldwin Montfort, Knt., of Avon Dassett, Warwickshire, by
    his wife, Joan Vernon. They had one daughter, Katherine (wife of George Booth, Esq.). In 1455 John Leighton, Robert Mounford and Mary his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Thomas Hord and Joyce his wife, Thomas Walwen and Joan his wife, and
    Thomas Acton, coheirs in the lands and tenements of John Stepulton, Esq., presented to the Free Chapel of St. John the Baptist at Stapleton, Shropshire. In 1465 he was accused of treason. His wife, Mary, died before Easter term 1470 (date of lawsuit).
    In 1470 Thomas Horde and Joyce his wife sued John Leghton, Richard Bondy and Joan his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Robert Mountfort, and Thomas Acton in the Court of Common Pleas in a plea that should be permitted to make a partition of
    the manors of Stepulton, Armegrove, and Folhampton (in Wistanstow), Shropshire, which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Esq., father of the said Joyce. He may be the Robert Mountfort, Esq., “of Wykenhyll,” who issued a bond in 1477 to John Archer,
    Esq., of Tanworth, in the penal sum of £40 not to hinder or threaten any messenger bringing deeds from the house of William Kynge in Shrewsbury, Shropshire to the house of John Archer.

    Dugdale, Antiqs. of Warwickshire 2 (1730): 1007–1008 (Mountfort ped.). Eyton, Antiqs. of Shropshire 6 (1858): 118. Lennard & Vincent Vis. of Warwick 1619 (H.S.P. 12) (1877): 54–56 (Montfort ped.: “Rob. Montford of Colshall in Com. Staff. = Mary d.
    & heire of Leonard Stapleton.”). Willmore, Hist. of Walsall & its Neighbourhood (1887): 280, 281–283 (Montfort ped.), 284–286. Wrottesley, Staffordshire Suits: Plea Rolls (Colls. Hist. Staffs. n.s. 4) (1901): 186. Bye-gones (1903): 195. Desc.
    Cat. Ancient Deeds 5 (1906): 163. Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc. 4th Ser. 5 (1915): 221. VCH Warwick 4 (1947): 35 (author distinguishes him from his uncle, Robert Montfort, the elder, of Monkspath, in Tamworth, Warwickshire); 5 (1949):
    168. TAG 26 (1950): 12–25. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. VCH Stafford 17 (1976): 171. Carpenter, Locality & Polity (1992): 661. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/
    aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm). Shakespeare Birthplace Trust Recs. Office: Archer of Tanworth, DR 37/2/Box 73/37 (bond dated 19 May 1477 from Robert Mountfort, Esq. to John Archer, Esq.) (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk).

    b. CHRISTINE (or CHRISTIAN)) STAPLETON, daughter and co-heiress. She married (1st) before 1455 ROBERT CRESSETT (or CRESSET), Esq., of Upton Cressett, Shropshire, Sheriff of Shropshire, 1468–9, 1484–5, son and heir of Hugh Cressett, Esq., Sheriff of
    Shropshire, 1435. They had one son, Thomas, Esq., and one daughter, Joyce (wife of Ralph Lane and Edward Burton, Gent.). In 1455 John Leighton, Robert Mounford and Mary his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Thomas Hord and Joyce his wife,
    Thomas Walwen and Joan his wife, and Thomas Acton, coheirs in the lands and tenements of John Stepulton, Esq., presented to the Free Chapel of St. John the Baptist at Stapleton, Shropshire. In 1470 Thomas Horde and Joyce his wife sued John Leghton,
    Richard Bondy and Joan his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Robert Mountfort, and Thomas Acton in the Court of Common Pleas in a plea that should be permitted to make a partition of the manors of Stepulton, Armegrove, and Folhampton (in
    Wistanstow), Shropshire, which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Esq., father of the said Joyce. In 1480 he sued William Barbour, of Nether Larden, Shropshire, laborer, executor of the will of John More, of Nether Larden, Shropshire, in the Court of
    Common Pleas regarding a debt of £6. In 1483 her cousin, William Roynon, quitclaimed all his land he had in Warminster, Wiltshire which he had by feoffment of Leonard Stapleton to George Booth and Katherine his wife, John Leighton, and Robert Cressett
    and Christian his wife. The same year John Leghton, Esq., George Bothe, Esq., Robert Cresset, Esq., and James Aysse, Esq., sued William Brent, Gent., of Warminster, Wiltshire, and others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at
    Warminster, Wiltshire. The same year John Leghton, Esq., Robert Cresset, Esq., and George Boothe, Esq., sued John Nuehall, of Bedak,Cornwall, yeoman, and another in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Bedak, Cornwall. ROBERT
    CRESSETT, Esq., left a will proved 27 April 1490. His widow, Christine, married (2nd) _____ EYTON, and (3rd) ROBERT BURTON, Knt., of Longnor, Shropshire, son and heir of Edward Burton, Knt., of Longnor, Shropshire. Christine died before 1495.

    Debrett, Peerage of the United Kingdom 2 (1820): 933 (“sir Robert Burton, knt., had the first grant of arms May 22, 1473; he m. Christa Stapleton, daughter of sir John Stapleton, knt. and relict of Robert Cressett, of Upton Cressett, co. Salop”).
    Owen, Hist. of Shrewsbury 2 (1825): 230–231. Burke Hist. of the Commoners 4 (1838): 261–267 (sub Burton). Eyton, Antiqs. of Shropshire 6 (1858): 118. Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 1 (H.S.P. 28) (1889): 157–158 (
    Cressett ped.: “Robertus Cressett de Uton Cresset in com. Salop [Sheriff 1469].= Xpiana fil. et hær. Joh’es Stepleton de Stepleton mil. 2 nupta …. Eyton et 3 [postea] …. Byrton Burton.”) (Cressett arms: Azure, a cross and bordure both
    engrailed or). Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Nat. Hist. Soc. 2nd Ser. 6 (1894): 180–181. List of Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 118–119. Bye-gones (1903): 195. Wrottesley, Lane of King’s Bromley (Colls. Hist. Staffs.
    3rd Ser. 1910) (1910): 155–163. Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc. 4th Ser. 5 (1915): 221. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. Faraday Cal. of Hereford Probates 1407–1550 (2009): 130. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available
    at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/871, image 724f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no871/aCP40no871fronts/IMG_0724.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/883, image 431f
    (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no883/aCP40no883fronts/IMG_0431.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/883, image 498d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no883/bCP40no883dorses/IMG_0498.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/892,
    image 1286d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/R3/CP40no892/bCP40no892dorses/IMG_1286.htm).

    iii. ELIZABETH STAPLETON, married (as his 1st wife) EDWARD LEIGHTON, of Stretton en le Dale and Leighton, Shropshire, son and heir of John Leighton, Esq., of Leighton, Shropshire, by Maud, daughter and heiress of Walter Cambray, Esq. They had four sons,
    John, Esq., Edward, Cuthbert, Knt., and Richard, and three daughters, Elizabeth (wife of William Lyster), Alice, and Joyce. His wife, Elizabeth, died before 1444. He married (2nd) before 1444 SIBYL _____. EDWARD LEIGHTON left a will dated 1444, proved
    4 March 1456 [P.C.C.], requesting burial in the chapel of St. Mary in the church of Stretton in le Dale, Shropshire. In 1472 John Leyghton, executor of the will of Edward Leyghton, of Stretton, Shropshire, sued William Mynde, Gent., of Mynde, Shropshire,
    executor of the will of John Mynde, Gent., of Mynde, Shropshire, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £10.

    Botfield, Stemmata Botevilliana (1858): 163–165, 183–188 (Leighton ped.). Colls. Hist. Staffs. 6 (1883): 320–321 (will of Edward Leighton). Bye-gones (1903): 195. Burke, Gen. & Heraldic Hist. of the Peerage & Baronetage (76th ed., 1914): 1192–
    1194 (sub Leighton). Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc. 4th Ser. 5 (1915): 221. Wedgwood, Hist. of Parl. 1 (1936): 534–535 (biog. of John Leighton). VCH Shropshire 8 (1968): 164. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at
    http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/841, image 531f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no841/aCP40no841fronts/IMG_0531.htm).

    Child of Elizabeth Stapleton, by Edward Leighton:


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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to Douglas Richardson on Thu Jan 27 15:24:11 2022
    On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 10:20:23 AM UTC-8, Douglas Richardson wrote:
    Dear Glen ~

    For your interest, I've copied below my current file account of the Stapleton-Deviock and related families.

    In response to your specific question, the identity of the husband of Margaret Stapleton [Generation 10, ii below] is not clear in contemporary records. We know of Margaret's existence from two records, namely the will of her grandmother, Margaret
    Hakeluyt, dated 1414, and a Common Pleas lawsuit dated 1470. The 1470 lawsuit clearly identifies two daughters for Margaret Stapleton, namely Mary and Christine. There is no reason to doubt the veracity of the 1470 lawsuit as both Mary and Christine and
    their respective husbands appear with other Stapleton family members in other contemporary records cited below. Unfortunately the 1470 lawsuit does not give the maiden names of either Mary or Christine, who were Margaret Stapleton's daughters. As such,
    it is necessary to fall back on other records to tell us their surname.

    According to Lennard & Vincent, Vis. of Warwick 1619 (H.S.P. 12) (1877): 54–56, Margaret's daughter Mary was the "daughter and heir of Leonard Stapleton.”

    And, according to Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 1 (H.S.P. 28) (1889): 157–158 , Margaret's daughter Christine was the "daughter and heir of John Stepleton, of Stepleton, Knt."

    As you can see, both visitations assign the surname Stapleton to both Mary and Christine, but differ as to the name of their father. Clearly Leonard Stapleton is an error, as Leonard was the known brother of Margaret Stapleton herself, thus uncle to
    the two girls.

    That leaves us with the statement in the Shropshire visitation that Christine was the daughter and heir of John Stepleton, Knt. I'm suspicious of this statement as there doesn't appear to be a Sir John Stapleton in the right generation to be the
    husband of Margaret Stapleton. Be that as it may, it should still be considered to be a possibility

    Inasmuch as both visitations assign Stapleton as the birth surname of both Mary and Christine, I'm inclined to accept those statements, albeit the name of the father differ in these accounts.

    Should you encounter additional information regarding this matter, by all means, be sure to let me know.

    Douglas Richardson, Author


    [snip of lengthy material referenced by link elsewhere in this thread]

    I think we can all agree that Christine, wife of Robert Cressett, and Mary, wife of Robert Montfort, were the granddaughters of John Stapleton the MP by his daughter Margaret. What we do not know is what the name of Margaret’s husband, and thus the
    surname of the daughters, was.

    The 1919 Warwickshire Vis. (for Montfort) and the 1628 Shropshire Vis. (for Cressett) mis-identify the father of Christine Cressett and Mary Montfort. It’s rather a leap of faith to assume that, although the fathers’ names are wrong, they still must
    have been Stapletons. In fact, a simpler and more plausible correction (to at least the Shropshire Vis) would be that the Vis. should have said that Christine was the granddaughter, not the daughter of John Stapleton the MP. No need to invent another
    Stapleton.

    Earlier in this thread, there was a discussion of the Stapleton account in VCH Wiltshire vol. 8 pp. 96-103 (which was cited in the lengthy Richardson narrative). In part it says “Elizabeth's sister Margaret [daughter of John Stapleton] had married a
    Cressett of Upton Cressett (Salop.), and left two daughters, one of whom married Robert Cressett and the other Robert Mountfort. (fn. 163)” Footnote 163 (which I is the same source as footnote 161 previously mentioned) is the Shropshire ANHS
    Transactions article mentioned earlier in this thread by William Acton (https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh45shro/page/n493/mode/2up) I’m rather dubious about this proposed Cressett marriage, but it may or may not be more dubious than the invention of an extra John Stapleton. In searching the archives of the
    group, it appears that there is little knowledge of the family prior to Robert Cressett - or possible other branches.

    BTW I still cannot find evidence to support the statement in the Richardson narrative that says that John Stapleton’s daughter Joan married Thomas Walwyn in addition to Thomas Hoord. Any help regarding evidence for the Walwyn marriage would be welcome.

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  • From fosgate3@21:1/5 to Douglas Richardson on Thu Jan 27 15:36:06 2022
    On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 12:20:23 PM UTC-6, Douglas Richardson wrote:
    Dear Glen ~

    For your interest, I've copied below my current file account of the Stapleton-Deviock and related families.

    In response to your specific question, the identity of the husband of Margaret Stapleton [Generation 10, ii below] is not clear in contemporary records. We know of Margaret's existence from two records, namely the will of her grandmother, Margaret
    Hakeluyt, dated 1414, and a Common Pleas lawsuit dated 1470. The 1470 lawsuit clearly identifies two daughters for Margaret Stapleton, namely Mary and Christine. There is no reason to doubt the veracity of the 1470 lawsuit as both Mary and Christine and
    their respective husbands appear with other Stapleton family members in other contemporary records cited below. Unfortunately the 1470 lawsuit does not give the maiden names of either Mary or Christine, who were Margaret Stapleton's daughters. As such,
    it is necessary to fall back on other records to tell us their surname.

    According to Lennard & Vincent, Vis. of Warwick 1619 (H.S.P. 12) (1877): 54–56, Margaret's daughter Mary was the "daughter and heir of Leonard Stapleton.”

    And, according to Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 1 (H.S.P. 28) (1889): 157–158 , Margaret's daughter Christine was the "daughter and heir of John Stepleton, of Stepleton, Knt."

    As you can see, both visitations assign the surname Stapleton to both Mary and Christine, but differ as to the name of their father. Clearly Leonard Stapleton is an error, as Leonard was the known brother of Margaret Stapleton herself, thus uncle to
    the two girls.

    That leaves us with the statement in the Shropshire visitation that Christine was the daughter and heir of John Stepleton, Knt. I'm suspicious of this statement as there doesn't appear to be a Sir John Stapleton in the right generation to be the
    husband of Margaret Stapleton. Be that as it may, it should still be considered to be a possibility

    Inasmuch as both visitations assign Stapleton as the birth surname of both Mary and Christine, I'm inclined to accept those statements, albeit the name of the father differ in these accounts.

    Should you encounter additional information regarding this matter, by all means, be sure to let me know.

    Douglas Richardson, Author

    + + + + + + + + +

    9. MARGARET LONGLAND, daughter and co-heiress, born about 1362 (aged 18 in 1380). She married (1st) JOHN DEVIOCK (or DEVYOK, DEVIOKE). They had one daughter, Margaret. JOHN DEVIOCK died before 16 August 1380. In 1381 Roger Lamarl sued Margaret Devyok,
    John Fareweye and Agnes his wife, and John Rewenon [Ruynon] and Joan his wife, daughters and heirs of John Langelond in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £40. In 1384 William Bowyer, Citizen and skinner of London, sued Margaret Devyok in the
    Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £20. Margaret married (2nd) before 1394 LEONARD HAKELUYT (or HAKLUYT), Knt., of Stoke Edith, Herefordshire, and, in right of his wife, of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset, and Degembris (in Newlyn East),
    Tremough, and Carveth (in Mabe), Cornwall, Knight of the Shire for Herefordshire, 1385, 1388, 1394, Escheator of Herefordshire, 1401–2, Sheriff of Herefordshire, 1402, 1408–9, Knight of the Shire for Somerset, 1404, 1406, son of Edmund Hakluyt, Knt.,
    of Longland, Herefordshire, by his wife, Emma. He was born about 1352. They had no issue. In 1388 he sued Thomas Gournay, of Over ?Waye, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £6 7s. 8d. In 1390 he claimed the manor of Shepton Mallet, Somerset,
    by virtue of a prior settlement dated 1368. In 1394 and again in 1411, he and Margaret his wife made a settlement of her lands. In 1394 he sued Roger Pauncefot in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Weston by Yarkhill,
    Herefordshire. In 1394 and 1398 John Coleman, Thomas Blast, and two others, executors of the will of Joan, widow of Edmund Fitz Herbert, sued him in a Sussex plea regarding a debt of 25 marks. In 1399 he sued Hugh Frensch, parson of the church of Zedfyn,
    and John Drake in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £20. In 1404 he was granted the keeping of Mawardyn and Much Marcle, Herefordshire as long as the manors remain in the king’s hand. The same year he presented to the church of Shepton
    Mallet, Somerset. In 1408 he sued William More, of Linton, Herefordshire, and others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Much Marcle, Herefordshire. In 1409 he sued Thomas Mill and others in the Court of Common Pleas
    regarding a debt of £28 8s. 11d. He was a legatee in the 1410 will of Thomas Clanvowe, Knt. In 1412 he sued Richard Amquy and John Amquy in the Court of Common Pleas in a Somerset plea regarding a trespass. At an unknown date, Margaret his wife claimed
    the right to dig turves in the manor of Edington, Somerset by a grant dated c.1269–89 made by John Fitz Geoffrey, lord of Edington, to her ancestor, Hugh de Langlonde and Eleanor his wife. SIR LEONARD HAKELUYT left a will dated 3 August 1413, proved 17
    August 1413. His widow, Margaret, took a vow of perpetual chastity 2 October 1413. In Jan. 1413/4 she was dispensed from a vow she voluntarily made for life to fast every Saturday, which she was unable to do owing to the infirmity of her body. In 1414
    Margaret was co-heiress to her Furneaux cousin, Alice Blount, wife successively of Richard Stafford, Knt., and Richard Stury, Knt. Margaret left a will dated 29 July 1414, proved 11 August 1414, requesting burial in the church of the Friars Minor at
    Bridgwater, Somerset by her late husband, Sir Leonard Hakluyt.

    Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243–248 (Furneaux ped.: “The furst doughter Margaret [Longland] maried Leonard Hakeluet, kt. of whom commyth Stepulton of Shroppeshier, and had for his parte lands besides Warmester, and in divers places.”). Benolte,
    Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux ped.: “Margerett [Longland], ux. Leonard hackluit.”). Antiq. 14 (1886): 115 (Deviock arms: Party per saltier argent and sable). Weaver, Somerset Incumbents (1889): 180. List of Sheriffs for
    England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 60. Giffard & Bowett, Regs. of Walter Giffard & Henry Bowett, Bishops of Bath & Wells (Somerset Rec. Soc. 13) (1899): 57. Procs. Bath Natural Hist. & Antiq. Field Club 9 (1901): 188–201. Weaver,
    Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 61–62 (will of Leonard Hakeluyt, Knt.), 66–67 (will of Margaret Hakeluyt). Bubwith, Reg. of Nicholas Bubwith Bishop of Bath & Wells 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 29) (1914): 148, 167. Somerset &
    Dorset Notes & Queries 16 (1920): 281–285 (Furneaux ped. dated 1421: “Et predicta Margareta [de Longland] prima filia predictorum Johannis [de Longland] et Isabelle marritata fuit Johanni Devyok et habuerunt exitum Margaretam [Devyok] que fuit
    marritata Johanni Stepulton et habuerunt exitum Leonardum Stepulton.”). C.F.R. 9 (1926): 214–215; 12 (1931): 279–280. Year Books of Richard II 7 (Ames Found. 10) (1929): 159–166. Rowe & Tapley-Soper, Cornwall Feet of Fines 2 (Devon & Cornwall Rec.
    Soc. 1950) (1950): 75, 109. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. Chancery Misc. 3 (List & Index Soc. 26) (1967): 255. Dunning, Hylle Cartulary (Somerset Rec. Soc. 68) (1968): 62. Cal. IPM 15 (1970): 101–102. List of Escheators for England & Wales (List &
    Index Soc. 72) (1971): 61. Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 3 (1992): 265–267 (biog. of Leonard Hakluyt). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/483, image 415 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no483/483_0415.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/
    494, image 92 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no494/494_0092.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/511, image 130 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no511/511_0130.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/533, image 108 (available
    at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no533/533_0108.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/533, image 147 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no533/533_0147.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/553, image 1339d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.
    edu/AALT4/R2/CP40no553/bCP40no553dorses/IMG_1339.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/589, image 57f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/H4/CP40no589/aCP40no589fronts/IMG_0057.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/594, image 1102d (available at http://
    aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no594/bCP40no594dorses/IMG_1102.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/605, image 608f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no605/aCP40no605fronts/IMG_0608.htm). Court of King’s Bench, KB27/550, image 93f (available at http://
    aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/R2/KB27no550/aKB27no550fronts/IMG_0093.htm).

    10. MARGARET DEVIOCK, daughter and heiress, evidently born before 1380. She married before 1400 (as his 1st wife) JOHN STAPLETON (or STEPULTON), Esq., of Stapleton, Shropshire, Dormington, Herefordshire, etc., Knight of the Shire for Shropshire, 1421,
    2nd son of John Stapleton, of Stapleton and Oaks (in Pontesbury), Shropshire, Dormington, Herefordshire, etc., by Katherine, daughter and co-heiress of Edward Burnell, of Langley, Shropshire. They had one son, Leonard, Esq., and two daughters, Margaret
    and Elizabeth. His wife, Margaret, died before 1421. He married (2nd) ] MARGERY _____. They had three daughters, Joyce (wife of Thomas Horde), Joan (wife of Thomas Walwyn and Richard Bondy), and Mary (wife of Thomas Acton). In 1421 his 1st wife Margaret
    s son, Leonard Stapleton, was her representative as one of the co-heirs named in the division that year of the estates of her Furneaux cousin, Alice (Blount) (Stafford) Stury. In 1438 there was a fire at his moated manor house at Stapleton, Shropshire.
    In 1443 William Adam, of Longden, and Richard Adam, of Cardington, granted John Stepulton, of Stapleton, Shropshire, the manor and advowson of the church of Stapleton, Shropshire for life, with successive remainders to Leonard Stepulton and his heirs;
    the heirs of the said John begotten on the bodies of Margery his wife and Margaret his late wife; John [Talbot], Earl of Shrewsbury, and Margaret his wife and their heirs. JOHN STAPLETON, Esq., was living in 1446, but died before 1450. In 1470 Thomas
    Horde and Joyce his wife sued John Leghton, Richard Bondy and Joan his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Robert Mountfort, and Thomas Acton in the Court of Common Pleas in a plea that should be permitted to make a partition of the manors of
    Stepulton, Armegrove, and Folhampton (in Wistanstow), Shropshire, which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Esq., father of the said Joyce.

    Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243–248. Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux ped.: “Margerett, ux. John Stepleton.”). Bye-gones (1903): 195. Colls. Hist. Staffs. 1914 (1914): 221. Somerset & Dorset Notes & Queries 16 (
    1920): 281–285 (Furneaux ped. dated 1421: “Et predicta Margareta [de Beaupre] prima filia predictorum Johannis et Isabelle marritata fuit Johanni Devyok et habuerunt exitum Margaretam [Devyok] que fuit marritata Johanni Stepulton et habuerunt exitum
    Leonardum Stepulton.”). Wedgwood, Hist. of Parliament 1 (1936): 534–535 (biog. of John Leighton), 469 (biog. of Thomas Horde). VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. VCH Shropshire 8 (1968): 164, 266. Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 3 (1992): 265–
    267 (biog. of Leonard Hakluyt); 4 (1992): 461–462 (biog. of John Stapleton). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm). National Archives, CP 25/1/195/22, #26; CP
    25/1/195/22, #27 [see abstract of fines at http:// www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].

    Children of Margaret Deviock by John Stapleton, Esq.:

    i. LEONARD STAPLETON (or STEPULTON, STEPILTON), Esq., of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset, and, in right of his 2nd wife, of Sezincote, Gloucestershire and Milcote, Warwickshire, son and heir by his father’s 1st marriage, born in or before 1400 (
    minor in 1418, of age in 1421). He was a legatee in the 1413 will of his step-grandfather, Leonard Hakluyt, Knt. He was a legatee in the 1414 will of his grandmother, Margaret Hakluyt. In the period, 1426–32, he sued Hugh Stapleton, Gent., and Hugh his
    son in Chancery for killing his horses and cattle at Stapleton, Shropshire, and lying in wait to kill him. He served as one of the feoffees for Edward Benstede, Knt. in 1429. In 1435 he, John Greville, and others were pardoned for acquiring the manor of
    Braunton Gorges, Devon without license from Theobald Gorges alias Russell. He married (1st) before Trinity 1441 MARY _____. In 1441 he and Mary his wife sold the manor of Walton in Gordano, Somerset to Thomas Hethe for 200 marks of silver. In 1442 he and
    Mary his wife settled his manor of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset on themselves and their issue, with reversion to the right heirs of Leonard. He was appointed one the executors of the 1444 will of Edward Leighton, of Stretton in the Dale, Shropshire.
    He married (2nd) before 11 March 1445/6 JOYCE COKESEY (or COOKSEY), widow of Walter Beauchamp, Knt. [see POWICK 10.i], of Brewham, Somerset (died before 1427), and John Greville, Esq. [see POWICK 10.i], of Sezincote, Ebrington, Lasborough (in Westonbirt),
    and Meon, Gloucestershire (died 30 Sept.1444), and daughter of Walter Cokesey, Esq., of Great Cooksey (in Upton Warren), Caldwell (in Kidderminster), Great Witley, and Sutton (in Tenbury), Worcestershire, Hunningham, Warwickshire, etc., by Maud (
    descendant of King John), daughter of Thomas Harcourt, Knt. [see HARCOURT 8.ii for her ancestry]. She was born about 1406 (aged 40 in 1446, 54 in 1460). In 1444, as “Joyce Beauchampe, formerly wife of John Grevel, of Sesyncote, Esq.,” she and her
    sons, John and Maurice Grevel, were admitted members of the gild of Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire. Joyce was heiress in 1445 to her brother, Hugh Cokesey, Knt., by which she inherited the manors of Tetbury, Gloucestershire, Bramley and Little Bookham,
    Surrey, Bidlington (in Bramber), Sussex, Hunningham and Willey, Warwickshire, Great Cooksey (in Upton Warren), Worcestershire, etc. He was granted an exemption for life from being put on assizes, juries, recognitions, etc. in 1448. LEONARD STAPLETON,
    Esq., died before 1450. In the period, 1448–56, as “Joice widow of Sir Walter Beauchamp, Knt., and late the wife of Leonard Stepulton, Esq.” she sued William Bastard and two others, feoffees of Leonard Stepulton, Esq., in Chancery regarding the
    manor of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset and lands in Warminster, Wiltshire. In 1460, as “Joyce Beauchamp,” she sued Edmund Busshell, Gent., of Marston Sicca, Gloucestershire, and another in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass at Pebworth,
    Gloucestershire. Lady Joyce Beauchamp presented to the church of Witley, Worcestershire in 1461. In 1463 Joyce Beauchampe, widow, sued John Fadyr, Gent., of Buckenham Castle, Norfolk, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding the theft of charters,
    writings, and muniments. In 1465, as “Lady Joyce Beauchamp, sister and heiress of Hugh Cokesey, knight,” she demised the site of a watermill at Horsley, Cheshire, together with a watercourse called Horseleywell, for a term of 40 years to William
    Underwoode, of Peckforton, Cheshire, and his son, John. In 1465, as “Joyce Beauchamp, widow,” she sued John Colyn, of Willey, Warwickshire, husbandman, regarding a trespass at Willey, Warwickshire. The same year, as “Joyce widow of Walter Beauchamp,
    ” she sued Robert Kyng, of Cranley, Surrey, carpenter, and five others regarding a trespass at Cranley, Surrey. In 1467 she sued Ralph Fitz Herbert, Gent., of Yoxall, Staffordshire, and others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding breaking into her
    close at Eyton (in Dovedale), Derbyshure and cutting down her trees. She presented to the chapel of St. Mary, Kidderminster, Worcestershire in 1468 and 1469, as “Lady Joyce Beauchamp, sister and heir of Hugh Cokesey, Knt.,” and again in 1473 as “
    Joyce Beauchamp, widow.” In 1469 she founded the chantry of St. Catherine in Kidderminster, Worcestershire. In 1470 she sued William Russhale, of Tymber Hougle, Worcestershire, husbandman, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis]
    at Tymber Hougle, Worcestershire. Joyce died 19 July 1473, and was buried in Kidderminster, Worcestershire.

    Dugdale, Antiqs. of Warwickshire (1730): 72–73 (Herdeburgh ped.). Collins, Peerage of England 3 (1756): 661–663 (sub Grevile, Earl Brooke). Universal Mag. of Knowledge & Pleasure 27 (1760): 318–319. Nash, Colls. for the Hist. of Worcestershire 2 (
    1782): 50 (Cokesey ped.), 52, 57, 468–469. Fosbrooke, Abstracts of Recs. & MSS respecting the County of Gloucester (1807): 392–396. Lysons & Lysons, Magna Britannia 5 (1817): 129–142. Ormerod, Hist. of Chester 2 (1819): 333 (Cokesay ped.), 336–
    337. Coll. Top. et Gen. 6 (1840): 74–75. Lipscomb, Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 1 (1847): 267–268 (Greville ped.). Sussex Arch. Colls. 8 (1856): 97–131. Napier, Swyncombe & Ewelme (1858): 30–34, 46. Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 37 (1876):
    156–157. Genealogist 6 (1882): 28 (Calendar of Lambeth Wills: “Grevyle, John, Esq. Diocese of Worcester. [Date: 1445]. 128a Stafford.”). Colls. Hist. Staffs. 6 (1883): 320–321 (will of Edward Leighton); n.s. 4 (1901): 150, 152. Benolte, Vis. of
    Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux ped.: “Leonard Stepleton.”). Fortescue, Governance of England (1885): 43. Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 2 (H.S.P. 29) (1889): 424–427 (St. Peter ped.: “Jocosa [Cocksey]
    soror et hæres nupta Joh’s Greuill de Camden”). Desc. Cat. Ancient Deeds 1 (1890): 505–516; 3 (1900): 282. C.P.R. 1422–1429 (1901): 539. Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 61–62 (will of Leonard Hakeluyt, Knt.),
    66–67 (will of Margaret Hakeluyt). Feudal Aids 4 (1906): 384. Green, Feet of Fines for Somerset 4 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 22) (1906): 100, 103. C.P.R. 1429–1436 (1907): 456. C.P.R. 1446–1452 (1909): 154. VCH Surrey 3 (1911): 80–86, 335–338. VCH
    Worcester 3 (1913): 158–173, 173–179, 231–234; 4 (1924): 328–331 (Cooksey arms: Argent a bend azure with three cinqfoils or thereon), 372–375. Maxwell-Lyte, Docs. & Extracts illus. History of the Honour of Dunster (Somerset Rec. Soc. 33) (1917):
    162–163, 165. Ligon, Madresfield Muniments (1929): 11–17. VCH Warwick 6 (1951): 117–120, 259–261. VCH Sussex 6(1) (1960): 200–214. VCH Gloucester 6 (1965): 100; 11 (1976): 264–269, 285–288. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. VCH Shropshire
    8 (1968): 164. Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 3 (1992): 240–242 (biog. of John Greville). Brooks & Pevsner, Buildings of England: Worcestershire (2007): 298. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/796, image 1348d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/
    H6/CP40no796/bCP40no796dorses/IMG_1348.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/807, image 648f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no807/aCP40no807fronts/IMG_0648.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/814, image 1138d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.
    edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no814/bCP40no814dorses/IMG_1138.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/814, image 1203d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no814/bCP40no814dorses/IMG_1203.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/837, image 310d (available at http://
    aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no837/bCP40no837dorses/IMG_0310.htm). Devon Rec. Office: Fortescue of Castle Hill, 1262M/TG/7 (Thomas Lyttylton styled “cousin and counsel” by Dame Joyce Beauchamp in letter dated c.1456) (available at http://discovery.
    nationalarchives.gov.uk). National Archives, C 1/7/159 (Date: 1426–32: Leonard Stepilton, Esq. v. Hugh Stepilton, Gent., and Hugh his son); C 1/17/64; C 146/1289; E 210/11278 (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk). National Archives,
    CP 25/1/195/22, #26; CP 25/1/195/22, #27 [see abstract of fines at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].

    ii. MARGARET STAPLETON. She was a legatee in the 1414 will of her grandmother, Margaret Hakluyt, who bequeathed her 10 marks. She married after 1414 _____ (possibly JOHN STAPLETON). They had two daughters, Mary and Christine (or Christian). Margaret
    died sometime before 1455. Eyton, Antiqs. of Shropshire 6 (1858): 118. Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 66–67 (will of Margaret Hakeluyt). Colls. Hist. Staffs. 1914 (1914): 221. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. Court
    of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm).

    Children of Margaret Stapleton, by uncertain husband, _____ (possibly John Stapleton):

    a. MARY STAPLETON, daughter and co-heiress. She married before 1455 ROBERT MONTFORT (or MOUNTFORT, MOUNFORD), Esq., styled “the younger,” of Church Bickenhall, Warwickshire, younger son of Baldwin Montfort, Knt., of Avon Dassett, Warwickshire, by
    his wife, Joan Vernon. They had one daughter, Katherine (wife of George Booth, Esq.). In 1455 John Leighton, Robert Mounford and Mary his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Thomas Hord and Joyce his wife, Thomas Walwen and Joan his wife, and
    Thomas Acton, coheirs in the lands and tenements of John Stepulton, Esq., presented to the Free Chapel of St. John the Baptist at Stapleton, Shropshire. In 1465 he was accused of treason. His wife, Mary, died before Easter term 1470 (date of lawsuit). In
    1470 Thomas Horde and Joyce his wife sued John Leghton, Richard Bondy and Joan his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Robert Mountfort, and Thomas Acton in the Court of Common Pleas in a plea that should be permitted to make a partition of the
    manors of Stepulton, Armegrove, and Folhampton (in Wistanstow), Shropshire, which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Esq., father of the said Joyce. He may be the Robert Mountfort, Esq., “of Wykenhyll,” who issued a bond in 1477 to John Archer, Esq.
    , of Tanworth, in the penal sum of £40 not to hinder or threaten any messenger bringing deeds from the house of William Kynge in Shrewsbury, Shropshire to the house of John Archer.

    Dugdale, Antiqs. of Warwickshire 2 (1730): 1007–1008 (Mountfort ped.). Eyton, Antiqs. of Shropshire 6 (1858): 118. Lennard & Vincent Vis. of Warwick 1619 (H.S.P. 12) (1877): 54–56 (Montfort ped.: “Rob. Montford of Colshall in Com. Staff. = Mary d.
    & heire of Leonard Stapleton.”). Willmore, Hist. of Walsall & its Neighbourhood (1887): 280, 281–283 (Montfort ped.), 284–286. Wrottesley, Staffordshire Suits: Plea Rolls (Colls. Hist. Staffs. n.s. 4) (1901): 186. Bye-gones (1903): 195. Desc. Cat.
    Ancient Deeds 5 (1906): 163. Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc. 4th Ser. 5 (1915): 221. VCH Warwick 4 (1947): 35 (author distinguishes him from his uncle, Robert Montfort, the elder, of Monkspath, in Tamworth, Warwickshire); 5 (1949): 168. TAG
    26 (1950): 12–25. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. VCH Stafford 17 (1976): 171. Carpenter, Locality & Polity (1992): 661. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm)
    . Shakespeare Birthplace Trust Recs. Office: Archer of Tanworth, DR 37/2/Box 73/37 (bond dated 19 May 1477 from Robert Mountfort, Esq. to John Archer, Esq.) (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk).

    b. CHRISTINE (or CHRISTIAN)) STAPLETON, daughter and co-heiress. She married (1st) before 1455 ROBERT CRESSETT (or CRESSET), Esq., of Upton Cressett, Shropshire, Sheriff of Shropshire, 1468–9, 1484–5, son and heir of Hugh Cressett, Esq., Sheriff of
    Shropshire, 1435. They had one son, Thomas, Esq., and one daughter, Joyce (wife of Ralph Lane and Edward Burton, Gent.). In 1455 John Leighton, Robert Mounford and Mary his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Thomas Hord and Joyce his wife,
    Thomas Walwen and Joan his wife, and Thomas Acton, coheirs in the lands and tenements of John Stepulton, Esq., presented to the Free Chapel of St. John the Baptist at Stapleton, Shropshire. In 1470 Thomas Horde and Joyce his wife sued John Leghton,
    Richard Bondy and Joan his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Robert Mountfort, and Thomas Acton in the Court of Common Pleas in a plea that should be permitted to make a partition of the manors of Stepulton, Armegrove, and Folhampton (in
    Wistanstow), Shropshire, which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Esq., father of the said Joyce. In 1480 he sued William Barbour, of Nether Larden, Shropshire, laborer, executor of the will of John More, of Nether Larden, Shropshire, in the Court of
    Common Pleas regarding a debt of £6. In 1483 her cousin, William Roynon, quitclaimed all his land he had in Warminster, Wiltshire which he had by feoffment of Leonard Stapleton to George Booth and Katherine his wife, John Leighton, and Robert Cressett
    and Christian his wife. The same year John Leghton, Esq., George Bothe, Esq., Robert Cresset, Esq., and James Aysse, Esq., sued William Brent, Gent., of Warminster, Wiltshire, and others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at
    Warminster, Wiltshire. The same year John Leghton, Esq., Robert Cresset, Esq., and George Boothe, Esq., sued John Nuehall, of Bedak,Cornwall, yeoman, and another in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Bedak, Cornwall. ROBERT
    CRESSETT, Esq., left a will proved 27 April 1490. His widow, Christine, married (2nd) _____ EYTON, and (3rd) ROBERT BURTON, Knt., of Longnor, Shropshire, son and heir of Edward Burton, Knt., of Longnor, Shropshire. Christine died before 1495.

    Debrett, Peerage of the United Kingdom 2 (1820): 933 (“sir Robert Burton, knt., had the first grant of arms May 22, 1473; he m. Christa Stapleton, daughter of sir John Stapleton, knt. and relict of Robert Cressett, of Upton Cressett, co. Salop”).
    Owen, Hist. of Shrewsbury 2 (1825): 230–231. Burke Hist. of the Commoners 4 (1838): 261–267 (sub Burton). Eyton, Antiqs. of Shropshire 6 (1858): 118. Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 1 (H.S.P. 28) (1889): 157–158 (Cressett
    ped.: “Robertus Cressett de Uton Cresset in com. Salop [Sheriff 1469].= Xpiana fil. et hær. Joh’es Stepleton de Stepleton mil. 2 nupta …. Eyton et 3 [postea] …. Byrton Burton.”) (Cressett arms: Azure, a cross and bordure both engrailed or).
    Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Nat. Hist. Soc. 2nd Ser. 6 (1894): 180–181. List of Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 118–119. Bye-gones (1903): 195. Wrottesley, Lane of King’s Bromley (Colls. Hist. Staffs. 3rd Ser. 1910) (
    1910): 155–163. Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc. 4th Ser. 5 (1915): 221. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. Faraday Cal. of Hereford Probates 1407–1550 (2009): 130. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.
    uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/871, image 724f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no871/aCP40no871fronts/IMG_0724.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/883, image 431f (available at http://
    aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no883/aCP40no883fronts/IMG_0431.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/883, image 498d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no883/bCP40no883dorses/IMG_0498.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/892, image 1286d (available
    at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/R3/CP40no892/bCP40no892dorses/IMG_1286.htm).

    iii. ELIZABETH STAPLETON, married (as his 1st wife) EDWARD LEIGHTON, of Stretton en le Dale and Leighton, Shropshire, son and heir of John Leighton, Esq., of Leighton, Shropshire, by Maud, daughter and heiress of Walter Cambray, Esq. They had four sons,
    John, Esq., Edward, Cuthbert, Knt., and Richard, and three daughters, Elizabeth (wife of William Lyster), Alice, and Joyce. His wife, Elizabeth, died before 1444. He married (2nd) before 1444 SIBYL _____. EDWARD LEIGHTON left a will dated 1444, proved 4
    March 1456 [P.C.C.], requesting burial in the chapel of St. Mary in the church of Stretton in le Dale, Shropshire. In 1472 John Leyghton, executor of the will of Edward Leyghton, of Stretton, Shropshire, sued William Mynde, Gent., of Mynde, Shropshire,
    executor of the will of John Mynde, Gent., of Mynde, Shropshire, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £10.

    Botfield, Stemmata Botevilliana (1858): 163–165, 183–188 (Leighton ped.). Colls. Hist. Staffs. 6 (1883): 320–321 (will of Edward Leighton). Bye-gones (1903): 195. Burke, Gen. & Heraldic Hist. of the Peerage & Baronetage (76th ed., 1914): 1192–
    1194 (sub Leighton). Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc. 4th Ser. 5 (1915): 221. Wedgwood, Hist. of Parl. 1 (1936): 534–535 (biog. of John Leighton). VCH Shropshire 8 (1968): 164. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http:/
    /aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/841, image 531f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no841/aCP40no841fronts/IMG_0531.htm).

    Child of Elizabeth Stapleton, by Edward Leighton:


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  • From William Acton@21:1/5 to Douglas Richardson on Fri Jan 28 00:07:04 2022
    On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 6:20:23 PM UTC, Douglas Richardson wrote:
    Dear Glen ~

    For your interest, I've copied below my current file account of the Stapleton-Deviock and related families.

    In response to your specific question, the identity of the husband of Margaret Stapleton [Generation 10, ii below] is not clear in contemporary records. We know of Margaret's existence from two records, namely the will of her grandmother, Margaret
    Hakeluyt, dated 1414, and a Common Pleas lawsuit dated 1470. The 1470 lawsuit clearly identifies two daughters for Margaret Stapleton, namely Mary and Christine. There is no reason to doubt the veracity of the 1470 lawsuit as both Mary and Christine and
    their respective husbands appear with other Stapleton family members in other contemporary records cited below. Unfortunately the 1470 lawsuit does not give the maiden names of either Mary or Christine, who were Margaret Stapleton's daughters. As such,
    it is necessary to fall back on other records to tell us their surname.

    According to Lennard & Vincent, Vis. of Warwick 1619 (H.S.P. 12) (1877): 54–56, Margaret's daughter Mary was the "daughter and heir of Leonard Stapleton.”

    And, according to Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 1 (H.S.P. 28) (1889): 157–158 , Margaret's daughter Christine was the "daughter and heir of John Stepleton, of Stepleton, Knt."

    As you can see, both visitations assign the surname Stapleton to both Mary and Christine, but differ as to the name of their father. Clearly Leonard Stapleton is an error, as Leonard was the known brother of Margaret Stapleton herself, thus uncle to
    the two girls.

    That leaves us with the statement in the Shropshire visitation that Christine was the daughter and heir of John Stepleton, Knt. I'm suspicious of this statement as there doesn't appear to be a Sir John Stapleton in the right generation to be the
    husband of Margaret Stapleton. Be that as it may, it should still be considered to be a possibility

    Inasmuch as both visitations assign Stapleton as the birth surname of both Mary and Christine, I'm inclined to accept those statements, albeit the name of the father differ in these accounts.

    Should you encounter additional information regarding this matter, by all means, be sure to let me know.

    Douglas Richardson, Author

    + + + + + + + + +

    9. MARGARET LONGLAND, daughter and co-heiress, born about 1362 (aged 18 in 1380). She married (1st) JOHN DEVIOCK (or DEVYOK, DEVIOKE). They had one daughter, Margaret. JOHN DEVIOCK died before 16 August 1380. In 1381 Roger Lamarl sued Margaret Devyok,
    John Fareweye and Agnes his wife, and John Rewenon [Ruynon] and Joan his wife, daughters and heirs of John Langelond in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £40. In 1384 William Bowyer, Citizen and skinner of London, sued Margaret Devyok in the
    Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £20. Margaret married (2nd) before 1394 LEONARD HAKELUYT (or HAKLUYT), Knt., of Stoke Edith, Herefordshire, and, in right of his wife, of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset, and Degembris (in Newlyn East),
    Tremough, and Carveth (in Mabe), Cornwall, Knight of the Shire for Herefordshire, 1385, 1388, 1394, Escheator of Herefordshire, 1401–2, Sheriff of Herefordshire, 1402, 1408–9, Knight of the Shire for Somerset, 1404, 1406, son of Edmund Hakluyt, Knt.,
    of Longland, Herefordshire, by his wife, Emma. He was born about 1352. They had no issue. In 1388 he sued Thomas Gournay, of Over ?Waye, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £6 7s. 8d. In 1390 he claimed the manor of Shepton Mallet, Somerset,
    by virtue of a prior settlement dated 1368. In 1394 and again in 1411, he and Margaret his wife made a settlement of her lands. In 1394 he sued Roger Pauncefot in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Weston by Yarkhill,
    Herefordshire. In 1394 and 1398 John Coleman, Thomas Blast, and two others, executors of the will of Joan, widow of Edmund Fitz Herbert, sued him in a Sussex plea regarding a debt of 25 marks. In 1399 he sued Hugh Frensch, parson of the church of Zedfyn,
    and John Drake in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £20. In 1404 he was granted the keeping of Mawardyn and Much Marcle, Herefordshire as long as the manors remain in the king’s hand. The same year he presented to the church of Shepton
    Mallet, Somerset. In 1408 he sued William More, of Linton, Herefordshire, and others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Much Marcle, Herefordshire. In 1409 he sued Thomas Mill and others in the Court of Common Pleas
    regarding a debt of £28 8s. 11d. He was a legatee in the 1410 will of Thomas Clanvowe, Knt. In 1412 he sued Richard Amquy and John Amquy in the Court of Common Pleas in a Somerset plea regarding a trespass. At an unknown date, Margaret his wife claimed
    the right to dig turves in the manor of Edington, Somerset by a grant dated c.1269–89 made by John Fitz Geoffrey, lord of Edington, to her ancestor, Hugh de Langlonde and Eleanor his wife. SIR LEONARD HAKELUYT left a will dated 3 August 1413, proved 17
    August 1413. His widow, Margaret, took a vow of perpetual chastity 2 October 1413. In Jan. 1413/4 she was dispensed from a vow she voluntarily made for life to fast every Saturday, which she was unable to do owing to the infirmity of her body. In 1414
    Margaret was co-heiress to her Furneaux cousin, Alice Blount, wife successively of Richard Stafford, Knt., and Richard Stury, Knt. Margaret left a will dated 29 July 1414, proved 11 August 1414, requesting burial in the church of the Friars Minor at
    Bridgwater, Somerset by her late husband, Sir Leonard Hakluyt.

    Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243–248 (Furneaux ped.: “The furst doughter Margaret [Longland] maried Leonard Hakeluet, kt. of whom commyth Stepulton of Shroppeshier, and had for his parte lands besides Warmester, and in divers places.”). Benolte,
    Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux ped.: “Margerett [Longland], ux. Leonard hackluit.”). Antiq. 14 (1886): 115 (Deviock arms: Party per saltier argent and sable). Weaver, Somerset Incumbents (1889): 180. List of Sheriffs for
    England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 60. Giffard & Bowett, Regs. of Walter Giffard & Henry Bowett, Bishops of Bath & Wells (Somerset Rec. Soc. 13) (1899): 57. Procs. Bath Natural Hist. & Antiq. Field Club 9 (1901): 188–201. Weaver,
    Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 61–62 (will of Leonard Hakeluyt, Knt.), 66–67 (will of Margaret Hakeluyt). Bubwith, Reg. of Nicholas Bubwith Bishop of Bath & Wells 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 29) (1914): 148, 167. Somerset &
    Dorset Notes & Queries 16 (1920): 281–285 (Furneaux ped. dated 1421: “Et predicta Margareta [de Longland] prima filia predictorum Johannis [de Longland] et Isabelle marritata fuit Johanni Devyok et habuerunt exitum Margaretam [Devyok] que fuit
    marritata Johanni Stepulton et habuerunt exitum Leonardum Stepulton.”). C.F.R. 9 (1926): 214–215; 12 (1931): 279–280. Year Books of Richard II 7 (Ames Found. 10) (1929): 159–166. Rowe & Tapley-Soper, Cornwall Feet of Fines 2 (Devon & Cornwall Rec.
    Soc. 1950) (1950): 75, 109. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. Chancery Misc. 3 (List & Index Soc. 26) (1967): 255. Dunning, Hylle Cartulary (Somerset Rec. Soc. 68) (1968): 62. Cal. IPM 15 (1970): 101–102. List of Escheators for England & Wales (List &
    Index Soc. 72) (1971): 61. Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 3 (1992): 265–267 (biog. of Leonard Hakluyt). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/483, image 415 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no483/483_0415.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/
    494, image 92 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no494/494_0092.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/511, image 130 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no511/511_0130.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/533, image 108 (available
    at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no533/533_0108.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/533, image 147 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no533/533_0147.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/553, image 1339d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.
    edu/AALT4/R2/CP40no553/bCP40no553dorses/IMG_1339.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/589, image 57f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/H4/CP40no589/aCP40no589fronts/IMG_0057.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/594, image 1102d (available at http://
    aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no594/bCP40no594dorses/IMG_1102.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/605, image 608f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no605/aCP40no605fronts/IMG_0608.htm). Court of King’s Bench, KB27/550, image 93f (available at http://
    aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/R2/KB27no550/aKB27no550fronts/IMG_0093.htm).

    10. MARGARET DEVIOCK, daughter and heiress, evidently born before 1380. She married before 1400 (as his 1st wife) JOHN STAPLETON (or STEPULTON), Esq., of Stapleton, Shropshire, Dormington, Herefordshire, etc., Knight of the Shire for Shropshire, 1421,
    2nd son of John Stapleton, of Stapleton and Oaks (in Pontesbury), Shropshire, Dormington, Herefordshire, etc., by Katherine, daughter and co-heiress of Edward Burnell, of Langley, Shropshire. They had one son, Leonard, Esq., and two daughters, Margaret
    and Elizabeth. His wife, Margaret, died before 1421. He married (2nd) ] MARGERY _____. They had three daughters, Joyce (wife of Thomas Horde), Joan (wife of Thomas Walwyn and Richard Bondy), and Mary (wife of Thomas Acton). In 1421 his 1st wife Margaret
    s son, Leonard Stapleton, was her representative as one of the co-heirs named in the division that year of the estates of her Furneaux cousin, Alice (Blount) (Stafford) Stury. In 1438 there was a fire at his moated manor house at Stapleton, Shropshire.
    In 1443 William Adam, of Longden, and Richard Adam, of Cardington, granted John Stepulton, of Stapleton, Shropshire, the manor and advowson of the church of Stapleton, Shropshire for life, with successive remainders to Leonard Stepulton and his heirs;
    the heirs of the said John begotten on the bodies of Margery his wife and Margaret his late wife; John [Talbot], Earl of Shrewsbury, and Margaret his wife and their heirs. JOHN STAPLETON, Esq., was living in 1446, but died before 1450. In 1470 Thomas
    Horde and Joyce his wife sued John Leghton, Richard Bondy and Joan his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Robert Mountfort, and Thomas Acton in the Court of Common Pleas in a plea that should be permitted to make a partition of the manors of
    Stepulton, Armegrove, and Folhampton (in Wistanstow), Shropshire, which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Esq., father of the said Joyce.

    Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243–248. Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux ped.: “Margerett, ux. John Stepleton.”). Bye-gones (1903): 195. Colls. Hist. Staffs. 1914 (1914): 221. Somerset & Dorset Notes & Queries 16 (
    1920): 281–285 (Furneaux ped. dated 1421: “Et predicta Margareta [de Beaupre] prima filia predictorum Johannis et Isabelle marritata fuit Johanni Devyok et habuerunt exitum Margaretam [Devyok] que fuit marritata Johanni Stepulton et habuerunt exitum
    Leonardum Stepulton.”). Wedgwood, Hist. of Parliament 1 (1936): 534–535 (biog. of John Leighton), 469 (biog. of Thomas Horde). VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. VCH Shropshire 8 (1968): 164, 266. Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 3 (1992): 265–
    267 (biog. of Leonard Hakluyt); 4 (1992): 461–462 (biog. of John Stapleton). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm). National Archives, CP 25/1/195/22, #26; CP
    25/1/195/22, #27 [see abstract of fines at http:// www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].

    Children of Margaret Deviock by John Stapleton, Esq.:

    i. LEONARD STAPLETON (or STEPULTON, STEPILTON), Esq., of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset, and, in right of his 2nd wife, of Sezincote, Gloucestershire and Milcote, Warwickshire, son and heir by his father’s 1st marriage, born in or before 1400 (
    minor in 1418, of age in 1421). He was a legatee in the 1413 will of his step-grandfather, Leonard Hakluyt, Knt. He was a legatee in the 1414 will of his grandmother, Margaret Hakluyt. In the period, 1426–32, he sued Hugh Stapleton, Gent., and Hugh his
    son in Chancery for killing his horses and cattle at Stapleton, Shropshire, and lying in wait to kill him. He served as one of the feoffees for Edward Benstede, Knt. in 1429. In 1435 he, John Greville, and others were pardoned for acquiring the manor of
    Braunton Gorges, Devon without license from Theobald Gorges alias Russell. He married (1st) before Trinity 1441 MARY _____. In 1441 he and Mary his wife sold the manor of Walton in Gordano, Somerset to Thomas Hethe for 200 marks of silver. In 1442 he and
    Mary his wife settled his manor of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset on themselves and their issue, with reversion to the right heirs of Leonard. He was appointed one the executors of the 1444 will of Edward Leighton, of Stretton in the Dale, Shropshire.
    He married (2nd) before 11 March 1445/6 JOYCE COKESEY (or COOKSEY), widow of Walter Beauchamp, Knt. [see POWICK 10.i], of Brewham, Somerset (died before 1427), and John Greville, Esq. [see POWICK 10.i], of Sezincote, Ebrington, Lasborough (in Westonbirt),
    and Meon, Gloucestershire (died 30 Sept.1444), and daughter of Walter Cokesey, Esq., of Great Cooksey (in Upton Warren), Caldwell (in Kidderminster), Great Witley, and Sutton (in Tenbury), Worcestershire, Hunningham, Warwickshire, etc., by Maud (
    descendant of King John), daughter of Thomas Harcourt, Knt. [see HARCOURT 8.ii for her ancestry]. She was born about 1406 (aged 40 in 1446, 54 in 1460). In 1444, as “Joyce Beauchampe, formerly wife of John Grevel, of Sesyncote, Esq.,” she and her
    sons, John and Maurice Grevel, were admitted members of the gild of Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire. Joyce was heiress in 1445 to her brother, Hugh Cokesey, Knt., by which she inherited the manors of Tetbury, Gloucestershire, Bramley and Little Bookham,
    Surrey, Bidlington (in Bramber), Sussex, Hunningham and Willey, Warwickshire, Great Cooksey (in Upton Warren), Worcestershire, etc. He was granted an exemption for life from being put on assizes, juries, recognitions, etc. in 1448. LEONARD STAPLETON,
    Esq., died before 1450. In the period, 1448–56, as “Joice widow of Sir Walter Beauchamp, Knt., and late the wife of Leonard Stepulton, Esq.” she sued William Bastard and two others, feoffees of Leonard Stepulton, Esq., in Chancery regarding the
    manor of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset and lands in Warminster, Wiltshire. In 1460, as “Joyce Beauchamp,” she sued Edmund Busshell, Gent., of Marston Sicca, Gloucestershire, and another in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass at Pebworth,
    Gloucestershire. Lady Joyce Beauchamp presented to the church of Witley, Worcestershire in 1461. In 1463 Joyce Beauchampe, widow, sued John Fadyr, Gent., of Buckenham Castle, Norfolk, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding the theft of charters,
    writings, and muniments. In 1465, as “Lady Joyce Beauchamp, sister and heiress of Hugh Cokesey, knight,” she demised the site of a watermill at Horsley, Cheshire, together with a watercourse called Horseleywell, for a term of 40 years to William
    Underwoode, of Peckforton, Cheshire, and his son, John. In 1465, as “Joyce Beauchamp, widow,” she sued John Colyn, of Willey, Warwickshire, husbandman, regarding a trespass at Willey, Warwickshire. The same year, as “Joyce widow of Walter Beauchamp,
    ” she sued Robert Kyng, of Cranley, Surrey, carpenter, and five others regarding a trespass at Cranley, Surrey. In 1467 she sued Ralph Fitz Herbert, Gent., of Yoxall, Staffordshire, and others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding breaking into her
    close at Eyton (in Dovedale), Derbyshure and cutting down her trees. She presented to the chapel of St. Mary, Kidderminster, Worcestershire in 1468 and 1469, as “Lady Joyce Beauchamp, sister and heir of Hugh Cokesey, Knt.,” and again in 1473 as “
    Joyce Beauchamp, widow.” In 1469 she founded the chantry of St. Catherine in Kidderminster, Worcestershire. In 1470 she sued William Russhale, of Tymber Hougle, Worcestershire, husbandman, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis]
    at Tymber Hougle, Worcestershire. Joyce died 19 July 1473, and was buried in Kidderminster, Worcestershire.

    Dugdale, Antiqs. of Warwickshire (1730): 72–73 (Herdeburgh ped.). Collins, Peerage of England 3 (1756): 661–663 (sub Grevile, Earl Brooke). Universal Mag. of Knowledge & Pleasure 27 (1760): 318–319. Nash, Colls. for the Hist. of Worcestershire 2 (
    1782): 50 (Cokesey ped.), 52, 57, 468–469. Fosbrooke, Abstracts of Recs. & MSS respecting the County of Gloucester (1807): 392–396. Lysons & Lysons, Magna Britannia 5 (1817): 129–142. Ormerod, Hist. of Chester 2 (1819): 333 (Cokesay ped.), 336–
    337. Coll. Top. et Gen. 6 (1840): 74–75. Lipscomb, Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 1 (1847): 267–268 (Greville ped.). Sussex Arch. Colls. 8 (1856): 97–131. Napier, Swyncombe & Ewelme (1858): 30–34, 46. Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 37 (1876):
    156–157. Genealogist 6 (1882): 28 (Calendar of Lambeth Wills: “Grevyle, John, Esq. Diocese of Worcester. [Date: 1445]. 128a Stafford.”). Colls. Hist. Staffs. 6 (1883): 320–321 (will of Edward Leighton); n.s. 4 (1901): 150, 152. Benolte, Vis. of
    Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux ped.: “Leonard Stepleton.”). Fortescue, Governance of England (1885): 43. Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 2 (H.S.P. 29) (1889): 424–427 (St. Peter ped.: “Jocosa [Cocksey]
    soror et hæres nupta Joh’s Greuill de Camden”). Desc. Cat. Ancient Deeds 1 (1890): 505–516; 3 (1900): 282. C.P.R. 1422–1429 (1901): 539. Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 61–62 (will of Leonard Hakeluyt, Knt.),
    66–67 (will of Margaret Hakeluyt). Feudal Aids 4 (1906): 384. Green, Feet of Fines for Somerset 4 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 22) (1906): 100, 103. C.P.R. 1429–1436 (1907): 456. C.P.R. 1446–1452 (1909): 154. VCH Surrey 3 (1911): 80–86, 335–338. VCH
    Worcester 3 (1913): 158–173, 173–179, 231–234; 4 (1924): 328–331 (Cooksey arms: Argent a bend azure with three cinqfoils or thereon), 372–375. Maxwell-Lyte, Docs. & Extracts illus. History of the Honour of Dunster (Somerset Rec. Soc. 33) (1917):
    162–163, 165. Ligon, Madresfield Muniments (1929): 11–17. VCH Warwick 6 (1951): 117–120, 259–261. VCH Sussex 6(1) (1960): 200–214. VCH Gloucester 6 (1965): 100; 11 (1976): 264–269, 285–288. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. VCH Shropshire
    8 (1968): 164. Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 3 (1992): 240–242 (biog. of John Greville). Brooks & Pevsner, Buildings of England: Worcestershire (2007): 298. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/796, image 1348d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/
    H6/CP40no796/bCP40no796dorses/IMG_1348.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/807, image 648f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no807/aCP40no807fronts/IMG_0648.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/814, image 1138d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.
    edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no814/bCP40no814dorses/IMG_1138.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/814, image 1203d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no814/bCP40no814dorses/IMG_1203.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/837, image 310d (available at http://
    aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no837/bCP40no837dorses/IMG_0310.htm). Devon Rec. Office: Fortescue of Castle Hill, 1262M/TG/7 (Thomas Lyttylton styled “cousin and counsel” by Dame Joyce Beauchamp in letter dated c.1456) (available at http://discovery.
    nationalarchives.gov.uk). National Archives, C 1/7/159 (Date: 1426–32: Leonard Stepilton, Esq. v. Hugh Stepilton, Gent., and Hugh his son); C 1/17/64; C 146/1289; E 210/11278 (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk). National Archives,
    CP 25/1/195/22, #26; CP 25/1/195/22, #27 [see abstract of fines at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].

    ii. MARGARET STAPLETON. She was a legatee in the 1414 will of her grandmother, Margaret Hakluyt, who bequeathed her 10 marks. She married after 1414 _____ (possibly JOHN STAPLETON). They had two daughters, Mary and Christine (or Christian). Margaret
    died sometime before 1455. Eyton, Antiqs. of Shropshire 6 (1858): 118. Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 66–67 (will of Margaret Hakeluyt). Colls. Hist. Staffs. 1914 (1914): 221. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. Court
    of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm).

    Children of Margaret Stapleton, by uncertain husband, _____ (possibly John Stapleton):

    a. MARY STAPLETON, daughter and co-heiress. She married before 1455 ROBERT MONTFORT (or MOUNTFORT, MOUNFORD), Esq., styled “the younger,” of Church Bickenhall, Warwickshire, younger son of Baldwin Montfort, Knt., of Avon Dassett, Warwickshire, by
    his wife, Joan Vernon. They had one daughter, Katherine (wife of George Booth, Esq.). In 1455 John Leighton, Robert Mounford and Mary his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Thomas Hord and Joyce his wife, Thomas Walwen and Joan his wife, and
    Thomas Acton, coheirs in the lands and tenements of John Stepulton, Esq., presented to the Free Chapel of St. John the Baptist at Stapleton, Shropshire. In 1465 he was accused of treason. His wife, Mary, died before Easter term 1470 (date of lawsuit). In
    1470 Thomas Horde and Joyce his wife sued John Leghton, Richard Bondy and Joan his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Robert Mountfort, and Thomas Acton in the Court of Common Pleas in a plea that should be permitted to make a partition of the
    manors of Stepulton, Armegrove, and Folhampton (in Wistanstow), Shropshire, which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Esq., father of the said Joyce. He may be the Robert Mountfort, Esq., “of Wykenhyll,” who issued a bond in 1477 to John Archer, Esq.
    , of Tanworth, in the penal sum of £40 not to hinder or threaten any messenger bringing deeds from the house of William Kynge in Shrewsbury, Shropshire to the house of John Archer.

    Dugdale, Antiqs. of Warwickshire 2 (1730): 1007–1008 (Mountfort ped.). Eyton, Antiqs. of Shropshire 6 (1858): 118. Lennard & Vincent Vis. of Warwick 1619 (H.S.P. 12) (1877): 54–56 (Montfort ped.: “Rob. Montford of Colshall in Com. Staff. = Mary d.
    & heire of Leonard Stapleton.”). Willmore, Hist. of Walsall & its Neighbourhood (1887): 280, 281–283 (Montfort ped.), 284–286. Wrottesley, Staffordshire Suits: Plea Rolls (Colls. Hist. Staffs. n.s. 4) (1901): 186. Bye-gones (1903): 195. Desc. Cat.
    Ancient Deeds 5 (1906): 163. Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc. 4th Ser. 5 (1915): 221. VCH Warwick 4 (1947): 35 (author distinguishes him from his uncle, Robert Montfort, the elder, of Monkspath, in Tamworth, Warwickshire); 5 (1949): 168. TAG
    26 (1950): 12–25. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. VCH Stafford 17 (1976): 171. Carpenter, Locality & Polity (1992): 661. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm)
    . Shakespeare Birthplace Trust Recs. Office: Archer of Tanworth, DR 37/2/Box 73/37 (bond dated 19 May 1477 from Robert Mountfort, Esq. to John Archer, Esq.) (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk).

    b. CHRISTINE (or CHRISTIAN)) STAPLETON, daughter and co-heiress. She married (1st) before 1455 ROBERT CRESSETT (or CRESSET), Esq., of Upton Cressett, Shropshire, Sheriff of Shropshire, 1468–9, 1484–5, son and heir of Hugh Cressett, Esq., Sheriff of
    Shropshire, 1435. They had one son, Thomas, Esq., and one daughter, Joyce (wife of Ralph Lane and Edward Burton, Gent.). In 1455 John Leighton, Robert Mounford and Mary his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Thomas Hord and Joyce his wife,
    Thomas Walwen and Joan his wife, and Thomas Acton, coheirs in the lands and tenements of John Stepulton, Esq., presented to the Free Chapel of St. John the Baptist at Stapleton, Shropshire. In 1470 Thomas Horde and Joyce his wife sued John Leghton,
    Richard Bondy and Joan his wife, Robert Cresset and Christine his wife, Robert Mountfort, and Thomas Acton in the Court of Common Pleas in a plea that should be permitted to make a partition of the manors of Stepulton, Armegrove, and Folhampton (in
    Wistanstow), Shropshire, which formerly belonged to John Stepulton, Esq., father of the said Joyce. In 1480 he sued William Barbour, of Nether Larden, Shropshire, laborer, executor of the will of John More, of Nether Larden, Shropshire, in the Court of
    Common Pleas regarding a debt of £6. In 1483 her cousin, William Roynon, quitclaimed all his land he had in Warminster, Wiltshire which he had by feoffment of Leonard Stapleton to George Booth and Katherine his wife, John Leighton, and Robert Cressett
    and Christian his wife. The same year John Leghton, Esq., George Bothe, Esq., Robert Cresset, Esq., and James Aysse, Esq., sued William Brent, Gent., of Warminster, Wiltshire, and others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at
    Warminster, Wiltshire. The same year John Leghton, Esq., Robert Cresset, Esq., and George Boothe, Esq., sued John Nuehall, of Bedak,Cornwall, yeoman, and another in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Bedak, Cornwall. ROBERT
    CRESSETT, Esq., left a will proved 27 April 1490. His widow, Christine, married (2nd) _____ EYTON, and (3rd) ROBERT BURTON, Knt., of Longnor, Shropshire, son and heir of Edward Burton, Knt., of Longnor, Shropshire. Christine died before 1495.

    Debrett, Peerage of the United Kingdom 2 (1820): 933 (“sir Robert Burton, knt., had the first grant of arms May 22, 1473; he m. Christa Stapleton, daughter of sir John Stapleton, knt. and relict of Robert Cressett, of Upton Cressett, co. Salop”).
    Owen, Hist. of Shrewsbury 2 (1825): 230–231. Burke Hist. of the Commoners 4 (1838): 261–267 (sub Burton). Eyton, Antiqs. of Shropshire 6 (1858): 118. Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 1 (H.S.P. 28) (1889): 157–158 (Cressett
    ped.: “Robertus Cressett de Uton Cresset in com. Salop [Sheriff 1469].= Xpiana fil. et hær. Joh’es Stepleton de Stepleton mil. 2 nupta …. Eyton et 3 [postea] …. Byrton Burton.”) (Cressett arms: Azure, a cross and bordure both engrailed or).
    Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Nat. Hist. Soc. 2nd Ser. 6 (1894): 180–181. List of Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 118–119. Bye-gones (1903): 195. Wrottesley, Lane of King’s Bromley (Colls. Hist. Staffs. 3rd Ser. 1910) (
    1910): 155–163. Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc. 4th Ser. 5 (1915): 221. VCH Wiltshire 8 (1965): 96–103. Faraday Cal. of Hereford Probates 1407–1550 (2009): 130. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http://aalt.law.
    uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/871, image 724f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no871/aCP40no871fronts/IMG_0724.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/883, image 431f (available at http://
    aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no883/aCP40no883fronts/IMG_0431.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/883, image 498d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no883/bCP40no883dorses/IMG_0498.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/892, image 1286d (available
    at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/R3/CP40no892/bCP40no892dorses/IMG_1286.htm).

    iii. ELIZABETH STAPLETON, married (as his 1st wife) EDWARD LEIGHTON, of Stretton en le Dale and Leighton, Shropshire, son and heir of John Leighton, Esq., of Leighton, Shropshire, by Maud, daughter and heiress of Walter Cambray, Esq. They had four sons,
    John, Esq., Edward, Cuthbert, Knt., and Richard, and three daughters, Elizabeth (wife of William Lyster), Alice, and Joyce. His wife, Elizabeth, died before 1444. He married (2nd) before 1444 SIBYL _____. EDWARD LEIGHTON left a will dated 1444, proved 4
    March 1456 [P.C.C.], requesting burial in the chapel of St. Mary in the church of Stretton in le Dale, Shropshire. In 1472 John Leyghton, executor of the will of Edward Leyghton, of Stretton, Shropshire, sued William Mynde, Gent., of Mynde, Shropshire,
    executor of the will of John Mynde, Gent., of Mynde, Shropshire, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £10.

    Botfield, Stemmata Botevilliana (1858): 163–165, 183–188 (Leighton ped.). Colls. Hist. Staffs. 6 (1883): 320–321 (will of Edward Leighton). Bye-gones (1903): 195. Burke, Gen. & Heraldic Hist. of the Peerage & Baronetage (76th ed., 1914): 1192–
    1194 (sub Leighton). Trans. Shropshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc. 4th Ser. 5 (1915): 221. Wedgwood, Hist. of Parl. 1 (1936): 534–535 (biog. of John Leighton). VCH Shropshire 8 (1968): 164. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/835, image 625f (available at http:/
    /aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no835/aCP40no835fronts/IMG_0625.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/841, image 531f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no841/aCP40no841fronts/IMG_0531.htm).

    Child of Elizabeth Stapleton, by Edward Leighton:


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  • From Douglas Richardson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 9 16:00:45 2022
    Below is an abstract of the newly discovered 1451 Common Pleas lawsuit which I mentioned in my previous post:

    In Easter term 1451 Margery, widow of John Stepulton, late the wife of Edward Sprengeaux, Knt., Thomas Hord, and Thomas Acton, executors of the will of John Stepulton, sued Joyce, widow of Walter Beauchamp, Knt., of Sezincote, Gloucestershire, widow,
    and John Tommys, clerk, of Campeden [Campden], Gloucestershire, executors of the will of Leonard Stepulton, Esq., in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £40.

    Reference:
    Court of Common Pleas, CP40/761, image 110f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no761/aCP40no761fronts/IMG_0110.htm).

    DR

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  • From Douglas Richardson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 9 15:23:58 2022
    My comments are interspersed below. DR

    On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 1:07:06 AM UTC-7, William Acton wrote:
    < I think the Visitations identify Mary and Christiana as 'Stapleton' because they were coheirs of their Stapleton grandfather. There is no
    < contemporary evidence for the identity of Margaret Stapleton's husband.

    As a general rule, visitations are fairly accurate .... although certainly it depends on the visitation in question, as accuracy can and does vary. In this case, you have two SEPARATE visitations which identify Stapleton as the birth surname of Margaret
    Stapleton's two daughters, Mary and Christian. This is supported by the record which you found taken from Bodl. MS., Salop, 10 f. 248.

    I personally see no problem accepting that Mary and Christian's father bore the same surname as their mother.

    As for other news, this past week I located a Common Pleas lawsuit dated Easter term 1451, which proves that Margery, the 2nd wife and surviving widow of John Stapleton, Esq. (he died c. 1450), was previously the wife of Sir Edward Sprenghose [
    Sprengeaux] (died 1417). A modern biography of Sir Edward Sprenghose can be found in Roskell, Members of Parliament, at the following weblink:.

    https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/sprenghose-edward-1417

    As indicated by Roskell, Edward Sprenghose was Sheriff of Shropshire in 1410-1411, which statement is supported by the published list of Shropshire medieval sheriffs:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hnkhj8&view=1up&seq=222&skin=2021&q1=Stepulton

    <Robert Mountfort had married Mary by 1451, see CP 25/1/293/72, number 362:
    <
    < http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_293_72.shtml

    Regarding the marriage date of Robert and Mary Montfort, you appear to have confused two different Robert Montfort's, one of Bescot (in Walsall), Staffordshire, the other of Church Bickenhall, Warwickshire. The two men were uncle and nephew, and both
    men had a wife named Mary. It was the Bescot man who was involved in the 1451 fine which you've cited in your post, not his nephew Robert, of Church Bickenhall, Warwickshire. Robert of Church Bickenhall is the one who married Mary Stapleton.

    For further particulars of Robert Montfort of Bescot, see VCH Stafford 17 (1976): 169-175, at the following weblink:

    https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/staffs/vol17/pp169-175

    Douglas Richardson, Author

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  • From William Acton@21:1/5 to Douglas Richardson on Wed Feb 9 23:50:53 2022
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 11:24:00 PM UTC, Douglas Richardson wrote:
    My comments are interspersed below. DR
    On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 1:07:06 AM UTC-7, William Acton wrote:
    < I think the Visitations identify Mary and Christiana as 'Stapleton' because they were coheirs of their Stapleton grandfather. There is no
    < contemporary evidence for the identity of Margaret Stapleton's husband.
    As a general rule, visitations are fairly accurate .... although certainly it depends on the visitation in question, as accuracy can and does vary. In this case, you have two SEPARATE visitations which identify Stapleton as the birth surname of
    Margaret Stapleton's two daughters, Mary and Christian. This is supported by the record which you found taken from Bodl. MS., Salop, 10 f. 248.

    I personally see no problem accepting that Mary and Christian's father bore the same surname as their mother.

    Well you are being inconsistent with yourself. Here's a comment you made about the 1620 Visitation in another thread:

    https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/OPxRqTBbwPw/m/U78U2E66AAAJ

    "According to the 1620 Visitation of Shropshire (which is not the best visitation)...

    The 1620 Visitation identifies no less than three daughters and co-heirs for this "Pierre Bruse" of Hochampe, namely Alice, wife of Ralph de Saint Owen, Maud, wife of John de Vaux, and Elizabeth, wife of William Molineux. As far as I know, there is no
    Peter de Bruse (or Brewes) in this time period who had such daughters."

    So does this mean you suddenly accept everything the visitation says, even when there is no contemporary evidence? Better to hold off from any firm conclusions until you can find contemporary evidence that Margery's husband was called Stapleton.

    As for other news, this past week I located a Common Pleas lawsuit dated Easter term 1451, which proves that Margery, the 2nd wife and surviving widow of John Stapleton, Esq. (he died c. 1450), was previously the wife of Sir Edward Sprenghose [
    Sprengeaux] (died 1417). A modern biography of Sir Edward Sprenghose can be found in Roskell, Members of Parliament, at the following weblink:.

    https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/sprenghose-edward-1417

    As indicated by Roskell, Edward Sprenghose was Sheriff of Shropshire in 1410-1411, which statement is supported by the published list of Shropshire medieval sheriffs:

    Thank you for this new evidence, very interesting.

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hnkhj8&view=1up&seq=222&skin=2021&q1=Stepulton
    <Robert Mountfort had married Mary by 1451, see CP 25/1/293/72, number 362: <
    < http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_293_72.shtml Regarding the marriage date of Robert and Mary Montfort, you appear to have confused two different Robert Montfort's, one of Bescot (in Walsall), Staffordshire, the other of Church Bickenhall, Warwickshire. The two men were uncle and nephew, and both
    men had a wife named Mary. It was the Bescot man who was involved in the 1451 fine which you've cited in your post, not his nephew Robert, of Church Bickenhall, Warwickshire. Robert of Church Bickenhall is the one who married Mary Stapleton.

    Mea culpa, thank you for correcting me.

    For further particulars of Robert Montfort of Bescot, see VCH Stafford 17 (1976): 169-175, at the following weblink:

    https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/staffs/vol17/pp169-175

    Douglas Richardson, Author

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  • From William Acton@21:1/5 to Douglas Richardson on Thu Feb 10 00:08:14 2022
    On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 12:00:48 AM UTC, Douglas Richardson wrote:
    Below is an abstract of the newly discovered 1451 Common Pleas lawsuit which I mentioned in my previous post:

    In Easter term 1451 Margery, widow of John Stepulton, late the wife of Edward Sprengeaux, Knt., Thomas Hord, and Thomas Acton, executors of the will of John Stepulton, sued Joyce, widow of Walter Beauchamp, Knt., of Sezincote, Gloucestershire, widow,
    and John Tommys, clerk, of Campeden [Campden], Gloucestershire, executors of the will of Leonard Stepulton, Esq., in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £40.

    Reference:
    Court of Common Pleas, CP40/761, image 110f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no761/aCP40no761fronts/IMG_0110.htm).

    DR

    Many thanks for this. There is another reference to Margery here:

    http://aalt.law.uh.edu/Indices/CP40Indices/CP40no629/CP40no629Cty.htm

    d 880 Bucks dower Carvell, William; Elizabeth, his wife Sprenchose, Margery, formerly wife of Edward Sprenchose, knight

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  • From Johnny Brananas@21:1/5 to William Acton on Thu Feb 10 10:08:19 2022
    On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:08:16 AM UTC-5, William Acton wrote:
    On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 12:00:48 AM UTC, Douglas Richardson wrote:
    Below is an abstract of the newly discovered 1451 Common Pleas lawsuit which I mentioned in my previous post:

    In Easter term 1451 Margery, widow of John Stepulton, late the wife of Edward Sprengeaux, Knt., Thomas Hord, and Thomas Acton, executors of the will of John Stepulton, sued Joyce, widow of Walter Beauchamp, Knt., of Sezincote, Gloucestershire, widow,
    and John Tommys, clerk, of Campeden [Campden], Gloucestershire, executors of the will of Leonard Stepulton, Esq., in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £40.

    Reference:
    Court of Common Pleas, CP40/761, image 110f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no761/aCP40no761fronts/IMG_0110.htm).

    DR
    Many thanks for this. There is another reference to Margery here:

    http://aalt.law.uh.edu/Indices/CP40Indices/CP40no629/CP40no629Cty.htm

    d 880 Bucks dower Carvell, William; Elizabeth, his wife Sprenchose, Margery, formerly wife of Edward Sprenchose, knight

    "Sprencheaux" is another common spelling of the surname ...

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Transactions/RIouAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=sprencheaux&dq=sprencheaux&printsec=frontcover

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