• Re: Robert de HOLAND

    From J. Sardina@21:1/5 to Dave Utzinger on Sun Nov 28 10:44:51 2021
    On Wednesday, March 5, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Dave Utzinger wrote:
    Generation No. 1
    1. Sir Robert de Holand1 was born Abt 1253. He married Elizabeth De Salmesbury.
    Child of Sir and Elizabeth is:
    + 2 i. Sir Robert de HOLAND2, born Abt 1280; died Oct-1328 in
    Beheaded in
    ENG.

    Generation No. 2
    2. Sir Robert de HOLAND2 (Sir Robert de Holand1) was born Abt 1280,
    and
    died Oct-1328 in Beheaded in ENG. He married MAUD La ZOUCE Abt 1312 in Winchester, ENG, daughter of ALAN La ZOUCE and ELEANOR.
    Child of Sir and MAUD La ZOUCE is:
    + 3 i. Elizabeth de HOLAND3, born Abt 1320.

    Generation No. 3
    3. Elizabeth de HOLAND3 (Sir Robert de HOLAND2, Sir Robert de Holand1)
    was
    born Abt 1320. She married William BOTILLER.
    Child of Elizabeth and William BOTILLER is:
    + 4 i. Alice4 BOTILLER, born Abt 1340 in Wemme, ENG.

    Generation No. 4
    4. Alice4 BOTILLER (Elizabeth de HOLAND3, Sir Robert de HOLAND2, Sir
    Robert de Holand1) was born Abt 1340 in Wemme, ENG. She married Nicholas de SANDFORD, son of Richard.
    Child of Alice BOTILLER and Nicholas is:
    5 i. Richard de SANDFORD5, born Abt 1370 in Sandford, Salop,
    ENG; died Abt
    1451. He married Maude BANASTRE
    Corrections--sources--comments--WELCOME, Really!!
    Always optimistic--Dave


    Hello,

    Following up on this thread, what is the evidence for Alice Botiller, who is said to have married Nicholas de Sandford?

    A marriage like that one is mentioned in an article http://www.hotten.net/open/pages/families/sandford/documents/history.htm

    but there may be a confusion.

    J. Sardina

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  • From J. Sardina@21:1/5 to J. Sardina on Sun Nov 28 11:51:42 2021
    On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 1:44:52 PM UTC-5, J. Sardina wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 5, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Dave Utzinger wrote:
    Generation No. 1
    1. Sir Robert de Holand1 was born Abt 1253. He married Elizabeth De Salmesbury.
    Child of Sir and Elizabeth is:
    + 2 i. Sir Robert de HOLAND2, born Abt 1280; died Oct-1328 in
    Beheaded in
    ENG.

    Generation No. 2
    2. Sir Robert de HOLAND2 (Sir Robert de Holand1) was born Abt 1280,
    and
    died Oct-1328 in Beheaded in ENG. He married MAUD La ZOUCE Abt 1312 in Winchester, ENG, daughter of ALAN La ZOUCE and ELEANOR.
    Child of Sir and MAUD La ZOUCE is:
    + 3 i. Elizabeth de HOLAND3, born Abt 1320.

    Generation No. 3
    3. Elizabeth de HOLAND3 (Sir Robert de HOLAND2, Sir Robert de Holand1)
    was
    born Abt 1320. She married William BOTILLER.
    Child of Elizabeth and William BOTILLER is:
    + 4 i. Alice4 BOTILLER, born Abt 1340 in Wemme, ENG.

    Generation No. 4
    4. Alice4 BOTILLER (Elizabeth de HOLAND3, Sir Robert de HOLAND2, Sir Robert de Holand1) was born Abt 1340 in Wemme, ENG. She married Nicholas de
    SANDFORD, son of Richard.
    Child of Alice BOTILLER and Nicholas is:
    5 i. Richard de SANDFORD5, born Abt 1370 in Sandford, Salop,
    ENG; died Abt
    1451. He married Maude BANASTRE
    Corrections--sources--comments--WELCOME, Really!!
    Always optimistic--Dave


    Hello,

    Following up on this thread, what is the evidence for Alice Botiller, who is said to have married Nicholas de Sandford?

    A marriage like that one is mentioned in an article http://www.hotten.net/open/pages/families/sandford/documents/history.htm

    but there may be a confusion.

    J. Sardina

    A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, Enjoying Territorial Possessions Or High Official Rank: But Uninvested with Heritable Honours
    Volume 2 By John Burke ยท 1835 , p. 666 when discussing the Sandfords says she was daughter of the first lord, but that seems impossible due to the dates.

    J. Sardina

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