• God or self? That's your choice...3!

    From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 09:14:19 2024
    XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.christian.catholic, alt.christnet.christianlife XPost: alt.atheism

    (KJV)
    Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine
    integrity? curse God, and die.

    You could write a book on that verse.

    It is true, Job's wife was trying to get him to choose himself, not God,
    like she chose herself (at that time) and not God.

    Job was still at that point.

    But this is the point that Job finally lost his life, choosing God
    before all else...

    (KJV)
    Job 42:5  I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine
    eye seeth thee.
    Job 42:6  Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

    Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him dust and ashes—what he really was. And now God had full control over the clay to
    make him into the image of Himself in the Messiah to come.

    Job would go down into the grave 'in the faith' to receive the Messiah,
    along with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, and all those others.

    Now, "Christian," be not fooled by the lukewarm religionists seeking
    followers or con yourself! Unless you come to that place of Job's
    "abhorrence" and "dust and ashes," you'll always be serving yourself in
    your religion (and in your bible) and not Him.






    Michael Christ

    --
    God is God in all His Being.

    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
    10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
    are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
    God. When you find Him you have found the author."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
    sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    "Man has no greater idol than his own will."

    "Where is God hiding? He isn't."

    "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

    "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
    willingness to believe."

    "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
    and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

    "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
    full of hope."

    "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
    through it so that a sinner could play God."

    "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

    "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
    is the love of God."

    "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
    pretending he is the meaning of life."

    "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
    still according to my power," says the Lord.

    What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
    order to explain the existence of existence.

    "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

    "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
     What a gift in a fallen world!"

    "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

    "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
    that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
    the glory of God"

    "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
    isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
    road."

    "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
    and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
    punished; it is what you are left with."

    "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
    birth it in a man."

    "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness."

    "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

    "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
    The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

    "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

    "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

    "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

    "There is no such thing as random!"

    "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

    "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
    you know nothing."

    "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

    "No sinner is sinless in any way."

    "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

    "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
    a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

    "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to Ted on Fri Apr 5 09:42:37 2024
    XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.christian.catholic, alt.christnet.christianlife XPost: alt.atheism

    On 5/04/2024 5:12 am, Ted wrote:
    Michael Christ wrote:

    (KJV)
    Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine
    integrity? curse God, and die.

    You could write a book on that verse.

    It is true, Job's wife was trying to get him to choose himself, not
    God, like she chose herself (at that time) and not God.

    Job was still at that point.

    But this is the point that Job finally lost his life, choosing God
    before all else...

    (KJV)
    Job 42:5  I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now
    mine eye seeth thee. Job 42:6  Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent
    in dust and ashes.

    Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him dust and
    ashes—what he really was. And now God had full control over the clay
    to make him into the image of Himself in the Messiah to come.

    Job would go down into the grave 'in the faith' to receive the
    Messiah, along with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, and all those
    others.

    Now, "Christian," be not fooled by the lukewarm religionists seeking
    followers or con yourself! Unless you come to that place of Job's
    "abhorrence" and "dust and ashes," you'll always be serving yourself
    in your religion (and in your bible) and not Him.

    Ted wrote:
    Very well said, MX! If I ever become a preacher, I'll hire you to write
    my sermons.

    It would be a pleasure to serve you, and I'll do it for free.

    The only thing I would request is that you would be so kind as to impart
    a blessing—a spaghetti bolognese that only those who know how to cook it would cook.





    Michael Christ

    --
    God is God in all His Being.

    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
    10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
    are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
    God. When you find Him you have found the author."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
    sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    "Man has no greater idol than his own will."

    "Where is God hiding? He isn't."

    "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

    "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
    willingness to believe."

    "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
    and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

    "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
    full of hope."

    "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
    through it so that a sinner could play God."

    "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

    "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
    is the love of God."

    "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
    pretending he is the meaning of life."

    "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
    still according to my power," says the Lord.

    What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
    order to explain the existence of existence.

    "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

    "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
     What a gift in a fallen world!"

    "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

    "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
    that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
    the glory of God"

    "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
    isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
    road."

    "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
    and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
    punished; it is what you are left with."

    "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
    birth it in a man."

    "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness."

    "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

    "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
    The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

    "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

    "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

    "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

    "There is no such thing as random!"

    "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

    "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
    you know nothing."

    "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

    "No sinner is sinless in any way."

    "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

    "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
    a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

    "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to Ted on Sat Apr 6 09:22:44 2024
    XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.christian.catholic, alt.christnet.christianlife XPost: alt.atheism

    On 6/04/2024 1:26 am, Ted wrote:
    Michael Christ wrote:

    On 5/04/2024 5:12 am, Ted wrote:
    Michael Christ wrote:

    (KJV)
    Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine
    integrity? curse God, and die.

    You could write a book on that verse.

    It is true, Job's wife was trying to get him to choose himself,
    not God, like she chose herself (at that time) and not God.

    Job was still at that point.

    But this is the point that Job finally lost his life, choosing God
    before all else...

    (KJV)
    Job 42:5  I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now
    mine eye seeth thee. Job 42:6  Wherefore I abhor myself, and
    repent in dust and ashes.

    Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him dust
    and ashes—what he really was. And now God had full control over
    the clay to make him into the image of Himself in the Messiah to
    come.

    Job would go down into the grave 'in the faith' to receive the
    Messiah, along with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, and all those
    others.

    Now, "Christian," be not fooled by the lukewarm religionists
    seeking followers or con yourself! Unless you come to that place
    of Job's "abhorrence" and "dust and ashes," you'll always be
    serving yourself in your religion (and in your bible) and not Him.

    Ted wrote:
    Very well said, MX! If I ever become a preacher, I'll hire you to
    write my sermons.

    It would be a pleasure to serve you, and I'll do it for free.



    Thanks man.


    The only thing I would request is that you would be so kind as to
    impart a blessing—a spaghetti bolognese that only those who know how
    to cook it would cook.


    Michael Christ


    Oh heck yeah. The women in my family can make all sorts of delicious
    dago food.

    And I like it! :-). My friend's mother, years ago, used to start cooking
    the Sunday lunch sauce on Saturday morning!





    Michael Christ

    --
    God is God in all His Being.

    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
    10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
    are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
    God. When you find Him you have found the author."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
    sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    "Man has no greater idol than his own will."

    "Where is God hiding? He isn't."

    "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

    "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
    willingness to believe."

    "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
    and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

    "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
    full of hope."

    "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
    through it so that a sinner could play God."

    "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

    "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
    is the love of God."

    "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
    pretending he is the meaning of life."

    "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
    still according to my power," says the Lord.

    What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
    order to explain the existence of existence.

    "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

    "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
     What a gift in a fallen world!"

    "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

    "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
    that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
    the glory of God"

    "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
    isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
    road."

    "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
    and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
    punished; it is what you are left with."

    "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
    birth it in a man."

    "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness."

    "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

    "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
    The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

    "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

    "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

    "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

    "There is no such thing as random!"

    "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

    "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
    you know nothing."

    "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

    "No sinner is sinless in any way."

    "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

    "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
    a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

    "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to Ted on Sun Apr 7 10:31:43 2024
    XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.christian.catholic, alt.christnet.christianlife XPost: alt.atheism

    On 6/04/2024 5:17 pm, Ted wrote:
    Michael Christ wrote:

    On 6/04/2024 1:26 am, Ted wrote:
    Michael Christ wrote:

    On 5/04/2024 5:12 am, Ted wrote:
    Michael Christ wrote:

    (KJV)
    Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain
    thine integrity? curse God, and die.

    You could write a book on that verse.

    It is true, Job's wife was trying to get him to choose
    himself, not God, like she chose herself (at that time) and
    not God.

    Job was still at that point.

    But this is the point that Job finally lost his life,
    choosing God before all else...

    (KJV)
    Job 42:5  I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but
    now mine eye seeth thee. Job 42:6  Wherefore I abhor myself,
    and repent in dust and ashes.

    Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him
    dust and ashes—what he really was. And now God had full
    control over the clay to make him into the image of Himself
    in the Messiah to come.

    Job would go down into the grave 'in the faith' to receive the
    Messiah, along with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, and all
    those others.

    Now, "Christian," be not fooled by the lukewarm religionists
    seeking followers or con yourself! Unless you come to that
    place of Job's "abhorrence" and "dust and ashes," you'll
    always be serving yourself in your religion (and in your
    bible) and not Him.

    Ted wrote:
    Very well said, MX! If I ever become a preacher, I'll hire you
    to write my sermons.

    It would be a pleasure to serve you, and I'll do it for free.



    Thanks man.


    The only thing I would request is that you would be so kind as to
    impart a blessing—a spaghetti bolognese that only those who know
    how to cook it would cook.


    Michael Christ


    Oh heck yeah. The women in my family can make all sorts of delicious
    dago food.


    And I like it! :-). My friend's mother, years ago, used to start
    cooking the Sunday lunch sauce on Saturday morning!



    Michael Christ


    Yes, that sounds about right.

    A ton of Italians migrated to the US. A bunch went to the Pittsburgh
    area to work in the steel mills and established communities. In my home
    town, near Pittsburgh, almost everybody has an Italian name.

    You'd be surprised at the variety of Italian foods. There are different variations depending on which part of Italy your family is from. Some Italians, e.g., never use tomato sauce.

    Really? Okay.

    My friend's family—I don't see them now because I travelled a lot—but I remember all of us sitting around the table and yelling and laughing and arguing and fighting over stupid things, but it was the unity I loved.

    Two brothers will be going at it with hammer and tong, almost coming to
    blows, but if a stranger criticises one of the brothers, the other
    brother will rip his head off! :-).

    Beautiful! I love it!

    Something many Australian families just do not have!



    Michael Christ




    Michael Christ

    --
    God is God in all His Being.

    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
    10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
    are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
    God. When you find Him you have found the author."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
    sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    "Man has no greater idol than his own will."

    "Where is God hiding? He isn't."

    "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

    "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
    willingness to believe."

    "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
    and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

    "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
    full of hope."

    "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
    through it so that a sinner could play God."

    "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

    "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
    is the love of God."

    "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
    pretending he is the meaning of life."

    "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
    still according to my power," says the Lord.

    What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
    order to explain the existence of existence.

    "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

    "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
     What a gift in a fallen world!"

    "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

    "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
    that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
    the glory of God"

    "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
    isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
    road."

    "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
    and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
    punished; it is what you are left with."

    "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
    birth it in a man."

    "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness."

    "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

    "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
    The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

    "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

    "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

    "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

    "There is no such thing as random!"

    "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

    "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
    you know nothing."

    "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

    "No sinner is sinless in any way."

    "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

    "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
    a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

    "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to Ted on Mon Apr 8 07:47:05 2024
    XPost: alt.bible, alt.religion.christian.catholic, alt.christnet.christianlife XPost: alt.atheism

    On 8/04/2024 5:35 am, Ted wrote:
    Michael Christ wrote:

    On 6/04/2024 5:17 pm, Ted wrote:
    Michael Christ wrote:

    On 6/04/2024 1:26 am, Ted wrote:
    Michael Christ wrote:

    On 5/04/2024 5:12 am, Ted wrote:
    Michael Christ wrote:

    (KJV)
    Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still
    retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.

    You could write a book on that verse.

    It is true, Job's wife was trying to get him to choose
    himself, not God, like she chose herself (at that time)
    and not God.

    Job was still at that point.

    But this is the point that Job finally lost his life,
    choosing God before all else...

    (KJV)
    Job 42:5  I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear:
    but now mine eye seeth thee. Job 42:6  Wherefore I abhor
    myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

    Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made
    him dust and ashes—what he really was. And now God had
    full control over the clay to make him into the image of
    Himself in the Messiah to come.

    Job would go down into the grave 'in the faith' to
    receive the Messiah, along with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,
    David, and all those others.

    Now, "Christian," be not fooled by the lukewarm
    religionists seeking followers or con yourself! Unless
    you come to that place of Job's "abhorrence" and "dust
    and ashes," you'll always be serving yourself in your
    religion (and in your bible) and not Him.

    Ted wrote:
    Very well said, MX! If I ever become a preacher, I'll hire
    you to write my sermons.

    It would be a pleasure to serve you, and I'll do it for free.



    Thanks man.


    The only thing I would request is that you would be so kind
    as to impart a blessing—a spaghetti bolognese that only those
    who know how to cook it would cook.


    Michael Christ


    Oh heck yeah. The women in my family can make all sorts of
    delicious dago food.


    And I like it! :-). My friend's mother, years ago, used to start
    cooking the Sunday lunch sauce on Saturday morning!



    Michael Christ


    Yes, that sounds about right.

    A ton of Italians migrated to the US. A bunch went to the Pittsburgh
    area to work in the steel mills and established communities. In my
    home town, near Pittsburgh, almost everybody has an Italian name.

    You'd be surprised at the variety of Italian foods. There are
    different variations depending on which part of Italy your family
    is from. Some Italians, e.g., never use tomato sauce.

    Really? Okay.

    My friend's family—I don't see them now because I travelled a lot—but
    I remember all of us sitting around the table and yelling and
    laughing and arguing and fighting over stupid things, but it was the
    unity I loved.



    I know what you mean. It's how people are supposted to live.


    Two brothers will be going at it with hammer and tong, almost coming
    to blows, but if a stranger criticises one of the brothers, the other
    brother will rip his head off! :-).


    Yeah, that isn't uncommon.


    Beautiful! I love it!

    Something many Australian families just do not have!



    Michael Christ


    I guess Australia didn't have the massive immigration waves we did
    here. That's interesting. I've travelled all over the US, and there are
    many places like that here, e.g. the southeast. Most of the immigrants
    from Italy remained in the northeast.

    Here's an interesting fact: Chicago has more Polish people than any
    city in Poland other than Warsaw. And a lot of them are first
    generation. You can't go to Chicago without encountering somebody who
    moved there from Poland.

    Surprising.







    Michael Christ

    --
    God is God in all His Being.

    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
    10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
    are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
    God. When you find Him you have found the author."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
    sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    "Man has no greater idol than his own will."

    "Where is God hiding? He isn't."

    "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

    "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
    willingness to believe."

    "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
    and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

    "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
    full of hope."

    "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
    through it so that a sinner could play God."

    "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

    "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
    is the love of God."

    "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
    pretending he is the meaning of life."

    "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
    still according to my power," says the Lord.

    What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
    order to explain the existence of existence.

    "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

    "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
     What a gift in a fallen world!"

    "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

    "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
    that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
    the glory of God"

    "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
    isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
    road."

    "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
    and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
    punished; it is what you are left with."

    "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
    birth it in a man."

    "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness."

    "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

    "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
    The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

    "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

    "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

    "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

    "There is no such thing as random!"

    "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

    "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
    you know nothing."

    "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

    "No sinner is sinless in any way."

    "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

    "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
    a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

    "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

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