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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Vedrin Jeliazkov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 13:02:32 2023
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 05:28:10 2023
    On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 14:42:07 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    Много от днешните лекарства колкото помагат, толкова и вредят.

    Щото "вчерашните" не вредят? Хеле па тия базирани на "народна медицина"...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Vedrin Jeliazkov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 00:07:12 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to chorbalan on Wed Oct 18 07:53:35 2023
    On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 05:28:10 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

    On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 14:42:07 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    Много от днешните лекарства колкото помагат, толкова и вредят.

    Щото "вчерашните" не вредят? Хеле па тия базирани на "народна
    медицина"...

    Всъщност, ако се замислиш, лекарствата от народната медицина са преминали
    през доста дълъг период на тестване.

    Всичко е въпрос на правилна преценка на отношението вреда/полза.

    Например някои лекарства за кръвно налягане водят до повишени нива на
    пикочна киселина в кръвта, което понякога се тълкува като проблеми в
    обмяната на веществата.

    Активното вещество, което се съдържа в pregabine и brieka води до повишени
    нива на креатинин в кръвта, което понякога се тълкува като проблеми с
    бъбречната функция.

    Та по-скоро проблемът не е в самите лекарства, а в това, че медицината все
    още е изкуство, а не наука.

    Все още има над 2000+ ензима в човешкото тяло, които не са изучени. Да не
    говорим за връзката между тях.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 16:34:41 2023
    On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 08:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    Аз в момента се боря с лекарите, които искат да ме слагат на лекарства.
    Високо кръвно, захар, диабет, проблеми със сърцето...

    Колко си глупава!? Как иначе мислиш да оправиш проблемите които имаш?
    Кръвното няма да спадне особено нито проблемите със сърцето ти да минат
    даже и да отслабнеш в нормата, а диабета си е до гроб и без лекарства ще
    трябва да пасеш като крава и нищо друго.

    В САЩ на лекарите не е разрешено да лекуват с алтернативни методи.

    И правилно. Щото в Бг сума ти алнертантоваджии измряха, от глупост.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 09:32:19 2023
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 16:40:08 2023
    On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 08:02:21 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 10:28:12 PM UTC-7, chorbalan wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 14:42:07 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    Много от днешните лекарства колкото помагат, толкова и вредят.
    Щото "вчерашните" не вредят? Хеле па тия базирани на "народна медицина"...

    Първо, какво разбираш под народна медицина?

    Билкарството, баенето и т.н.

    Второ, можеш ли да посочиш нещо конкретно, което вреди?

    Не мога ама имаше в Калифорния преди няколко години имаше една дето умря
    щото взела някакви билки дето се оказало че не вървели една с друга.

    И после съма ти народ измря в Бг щото вмесо на лекар ходиха на билкар;
    имам роднина която направи подобна глупост, после като стана много лошо
    се затича по лекари, ама не стигна..

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 18:43:41 2023
    On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 08:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 12:53:38 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

    On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 05:28:10 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

    On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 14:42:07 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    Много от днешните лекарства колкото помагат, толкова и вредят.

    Щото "вчерашните" не вредят? Хеле па тия базирани на "народна
    медицина"...

    Всъщност, ако се замислиш, лекарствата от народната медицина са
    преминали през доста дълъг период на тестване.

    Всичко е въпрос на правилна преценка на отношението вреда/полза.

    Отново, трябва да уточним какво се разбира под народна медицина.
    За мен народната медицина не е лекарства а билки, растения, мед...
    Лекарствата са фармацевтика.

    Например някои лекарства за кръвно налягане водят до повишени нива на
    пикочна киселина в кръвта, което понякога се тълкува като проблеми в
    обмяната на веществата.

    Активното вещество, което се съдържа в pregabine и brieka води до
    повишени нива на креатинин в кръвта, което понякога се тълкува като
    проблеми с бъбречната функция.

    Та по-скоро проблемът не е в самите лекарства, а в това, че медицината
    все още е изкуство, а не наука.

    В лекарствата е. Не казвам че няма животоспасяващи лекарства и случаи
    когато са наложителни.
    Но ги дават за щяло и нещяло.
    Аз в момента се боря с лекарите, които искат да ме слагат на лекарства.
    Високо кръвно, захар, диабет, проблеми със сърцето...
    Имам познати тук, които взимат лекарства с шепи.
    Сложат ги на едно, то предизвиква друг проблем, слагат ги на второ, и на
    трето и тн.
    След първите две сесии химиотерапия едва не умрях, мислех да се
    отказвам.
    Фонтани отпред и отзад, едновременно, мислиш, че умираш.
    Нищо не можех да ям, и да пия не можех освен вода с много изстискан
    лимон.
    За една седмица свалих 5 кг. (досега съм свалила около 15 кг, но имам
    още много да свалям,
    не се старая, просто се случва)
    Обриви в устата и абсолютно всичко горчи, главоболие, загуба на
    ориентация,
    изтощение, невропатия, абе... не е за говорене. Каах им след втората
    сесия, че трябва да намалим дозата. Намалихме я на 80%, след третата пак бях зле но и с нови симптоми.
    Получих ужасен болезнен обрив на гърдите, едва ли не рани и отидох в
    бърза помощ,
    дадоха ми крем и искаха да ми предпишат лекарство да пия.
    Моментално попитах за странични ефекти и докторът каза - ами може да има
    реакция с химиотерапията. Отказах. Ако не бях попитала, можеше да стане
    някаква гадна реакция.
    Следващите сесии минаха по-леко...
    От почти вече 2 месеца сме спряли химията, вливанията са само с други
    две вещества,
    маркери им казват, от тях нямам странични ефекти, или поне не съм
    забелязала да имам.

    Та мисълта ми е, докторите предписват лекарства за всичко а в много
    случаи състоянието може да се подобри с диети, билки, чист въздух,
    физическа дейност...

    Много от лекарствата имат момент на addiction или са такива, че не могат
    да бъдат спряни или много трудно.

    И ся кво излезе от твоите думи - че проблемът не в лекарствата, а в
    лекарите :)

    Мвжду другото, невропатиите много често са резултат от нелекуван диабет.
    Не че докторите знаят какво точно да правят в твоя случай (примерно).
    Говоря го това от опит с мой много близък в последната година.

    Все още има над 2000+ ензима в човешкото тяло, които не са изучени. Да
    не говорим за връзката между тях.

    Много неща има неизучени. Скоро споменах този филм, който го трият
    непрекъснато, за Рокфелер, който създава сегашния модел на медицината.

    В САЩ на лекарите не е разрешено да лекуват с алтернативни методи.
    В България могат. Много плаха и много бавно на някои места опитват. ..
    UCSD of all places

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 23:07:25 2023
    On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:02:46 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    Type 2 diabetes e reversible.

    Не е. Това е дегенеративна болест.

    Има научни статии които потвърждават, че глад помага.

    Това се знае. Само че ще трябва да си постоянно гладна и отпаднала,
    с глада ще свикнеш горе-долу, ама тонуса ще ти остане нисък.

    Не че източните народи не ползват този метод от столетия, дори хилядолетия,

    То и затова са мрели като мухи на по 35-40. Сега с такова се "лекуват" само
    бедните и изкукувиците като тебе.


    Аз промених навиците си на хранене, чм най-късно 6-7 вечерта и след това на обяд чак.

    Демек ядеш 2 пъти на ден, това е нормалното. Сигурно си намалила и калориите.

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 23:09:35 2023
    On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:15:59 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    Билките, ако се използват умело и със знания, помагат в много случаи.

    Билките помагат само като превантивна мярка и в леки случаи на
    някои заболявания.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?0KDQsNC00L7RgdGC0LjQvdCw?@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 16:31:29 2023
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 01:53:06 2023
    On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:31:29 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    "Although there's no cure for type 2 diabetes, studies show it's
    possible for some people to reverse it."


    Както казах за това трябва не да ядеш, а да пасеш. Като крава, овца
    или каквото там си избереш.

    Това се знае. Само че ще трябва да си постоянно гладна и отпаднала,
    с глада ще свикнеш горе-долу, ама тонуса ще ти остане нисък.

    Ми не е вярно, тъкмо обратното.
    Преди бях все гладна, сега не съм

    Значи не гладуваш достатъчно. Щото за това което казваш трябва да ядеш
    около 5-600 калории на ден ( за средна жена ) което ти не правиш.

    Не че източните народи не ползват този метод от столетия, дори
    хилядолетия,
    То и затова са мрели като мухи на по 35-40. Сега с такова се "лекуват"
    само бедните и изкукувиците като тебе.

    И това не е вярно, но си провери сам.

    Аз съм го проверил. На място. А ти си чела разни глупотии и си мислиш
    че нещо знаеш.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?0KDQsNC00L7RgdGC0LjQvdCw?@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 11:07:35 2023
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 18:57:13 2023
    On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 11:07:35 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    Едно време имах много нездравословни хранителни навици,
    почти не готвех,
    сандвичи, пица, паста (спагети), ядях късно вечер, имах проблеми със
    стомаха.

    Горките ти деца...


    Автофагия.

    Нискокалорийна диета удължава живота с 25-30% при лабораторните прлъхове,
    вероятно и при човека. Същевременно ги прави вяли телесно и умствено( което
    при тях значи че "решават" лабиринти и подобни задачки доста по-бавно, ако
    изобщо успеят )

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Vedrin Jeliazkov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 20 01:03:33 2023
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?0KDQsNC00L7RgdGC0LjQvdCw?@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 20 11:54:01 2023
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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 21 08:55:18 2023
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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