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  • John =?UTF-8?B?S2VycnnigJlzIERhdWdodGVyIE9yZGVycyBHb3Z04oCZcw==?= To Ma

    From Nick@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 17:41:17 2023
    Малко руска пропаганда за балансиране на емоционалното състояние на
    стресираните от изказванията на бивши шефове на КГБ 8-)

    John Kerry’s Daughter Orders Govt’s To Mass Euthanize BILLIONS of People Before 2030

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru0gWNAiyu8

    ---8<---

    John Kerry’s daughter has urged world governments to urgently ramp up the WEF’s propaganda so that members of the public are mentally prepared to witness the deaths of billions of human beings in the global elite’s great depopulation drive.

    Vanessa Kerry was speaking at a World Economic Forum panel to discuss the elite’s plans to brainwash the public into accepting their fate in order
    to save the planet from so-called “global boiling.”

    According to Kerry, the people of the world have been softened-up by the
    Covid pandemic and they are now “emotionally” ready to accept that culling the vast majority of the population is in the best interests of humanity.

    ---8<---

    Is this true?

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 19:45:48 2023
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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 19:54:07 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu Oct 5 04:31:04 2023
    On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 19:45:48 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 1:41:20 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

    Малко руска пропаганда за балансиране на емоционалното състояние на
    стресираните от изказванията на бивши шефове на КГБ 8-)

    John Kerry’s Daughter Orders Govt’s To Mass Euthanize BILLIONS of
    People Before 2030

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru0gWNAiyu8

    ---8<---

    John Kerry’s daughter has urged world governments to urgently ramp up
    the WEF’s propaganda so that members of the public are mentally
    prepared to witness the deaths of billions of human beings in the
    global elite’s great depopulation drive.

    Vanessa Kerry was speaking at a World Economic Forum panel to discuss
    the elite’s plans to brainwash the public into accepting their fate in
    order to save the planet from so-called “global boiling.”

    According to Kerry, the people of the world have been softened-up by
    the Covid pandemic and they are now “emotionally” ready to accept that >> culling the vast majority of the population is in the best interests of
    humanity.

    ---8<---

    Is this true?

    Щом ни го поднася никому неизвестен ютюб какал няма начин да не е
    истина...

    Вярно, не е the guardian, new york times, CNN, Fox etc., но все пак съм
    задал въпрос. Как си с четенето с разбиране?

    Нали помниш - ти не си чел Солженицин, но го осъждаш? Сутрин как се гледаш
    в огледалото?

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu Oct 5 04:26:00 2023
    On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 19:54:07 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Естествено за теб "Спутник" и никому неизвестни канали в ютюб имат много
    по-голяма тежест като авторитети по въпросите свързани с истината...

    Както знаем от теб, авторитет е твърде субективно понятие. Особено по
    отношение на истината.

    А че си глупак, вече го смятам за доказано.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu Oct 5 05:57:59 2023
    On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 19:54:07 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Естествено за теб "Спутник" и никому неизвестни канали в ютюб имат много
    по-голяма тежест като авторитети по въпросите свързани с истината...

    Авторитети по въпросите свързани с истината като СЗО ли? :-)

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  • From Dimitar Gueorguiev@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 04:09:50 2023
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?0JjQu9C40LXQskJH?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 05:00:22 2023
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  • From Dimitar Gueorguiev@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 05:41:21 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Dimitar Gueorguiev on Thu Oct 5 14:09:31 2023
    On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 05:41:21 -0700 (PDT), Dimitar Gueorguiev wrote:

    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:00:23 AM UTC-4, ИлиевBG wrote:

    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 2:09:51 PM UTC+3, Dimitar Gueorguiev
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:45:49 PM UTC-4, Ivaylo Ivanov
    wrote:

    Щом ни го поднася никому неизвестен ютюб какал няма начин да не е
    истина...

    Естествено в БГ подобни канали се гледат масово и се ползуват със
    значително доверие сред средно-статистическия Българин.

    Откъде разбирате, че средностатистическият българин гледа подобни
    англоезични ютюб канали, пък и им има значително доверие? Пропуснал съм
    да го забележа :(

    Допускам че каналите които гледа Българина са основно на руски ;-) между
    другото не съм споменавал непременно ютюб канали.

    Виж, мисленето в тази плоскост не е силната ти страна, така че
    концентрирай се в професионалната си област, където вярвам, че си добър
    специалист.

    Не знам откъде ги вадиш тези допускания, но не са верни.

    Зададох един простичък въпрос - истина ли е това, а вие двамата с ивайло
    се хвърлихте да громите източника, като че ли той е най-важния.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Dimitar Gueorguiev on Thu Oct 5 16:30:00 2023
    On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 04:09:50 -0700 (PDT), Dimitar Gueorguiev wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:45:49 PM UTC-4, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
    Щом ни го поднася никому неизвестен ютюб какал няма начин да не е истина...

    Естествено в БГ подобни канали се гледат масово и се ползуват със значително доверие сред средно-статистическия Българин.

    Па то и в Америка същото, само че в обратна посока.
    Прочее разделението тука и в Бг по въпроса е горе-долу еднакво около 50:50.

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 13:13:40 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu Oct 5 20:38:52 2023
    On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 1:25:53 PM UTC-4, ИлиевBG wrote:
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:00:13 PM UTC+3, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
    ..................................
    В повечето случаи е достатъчно очевадно неверните новини да съвпадат
    с техните предразсъдаци.
    Това е така, но не е изключено да важи и за Ивайло Иванов :)

    Написаното не важи за (скептични) хора, които са обсебени от
    епистемологията на новините.

    Хора, като например Ивайло П. Иванов.

    Аха, нали - хора като Ивайло П. Иванов, които третират произхода на
    новината според собствените си предразсъдъци и ако произходът не съвпада с
    тях, просто отричат новината. Те такова дживотно нема.

    Нещо за бяхме говорили преди време за обективната истина, респективно за
    обективните фактори, но някой не е внимавал и тогава.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Fri Oct 6 00:26:32 2023
    On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    е важи за (скептични) хора, които са обсебени от
    епистемологията на новините.
    Хора, като например Ивайло П. Иванов.

    Има си българска дума: "достоверност". Резоньорството не те прави по-достоверен.
    Рядко има някой като тебе да е така силни и неосъзнати предубежнедия, по това
    прилиаш на Пернатка - впрочем Бог да я поживи - с неините конспиративни теории.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Fri Oct 6 15:15:52 2023
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:26:35 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
    е важи за (скептични) хора, които са обсебени от
    епистемологията на новините.
    Хора, като например Ивайло П. Иванов.
    Има си българска дума: "достоверност". Резоньорството не те прави по-достоверен.
    Рядко има някой като тебе да е така силни и неосъзнати предубежнедия

    Кога съм отричал, че имам предубеждения?!?

    Ми навсякъде ни пробутваш украински "факти" често от източници на които
    в други случаи не се доверяваш.

    , по това
    прилиаш на Пернатка - впрочем Бог да я поживи - с неините конспиративни теории.

    Именно това е една от основните разлики между нея и мен.

    Че имате различни предубежнения ли? Нали това казвах.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Fri Oct 6 21:50:54 2023
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:15:55 AM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:26:35 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
    е важи за (скептични) хора, които са обсебени от
    епистемологията на новините.
    Хора, като например Ивайло П. Иванов.
    Има си българска дума: "достоверност". Резоньорството не те прави по-достоверен.
    Рядко има някой като тебе да е така силни и неосъзнати предубежнедия

    Кога съм отричал, че имам предубеждения?!?
    Ми навсякъде ни пробутваш украински "факти" често от източници на които
    в други случаи не се доверяваш.

    Би ли бил по-конкретен?

    NY Times и Washington Post, например.


    , по това
    прилиаш на Пернатка - впрочем Бог да я поживи - с неините конспиративни теории.

    Именно това е една от основните разлики между нея и мен.
    Че имате различни предубежнения ли? Нали това казвах.

    Че единия от нас има самосъзнание за предубежненията си а другия не.

    Кой точно го има, тя ли? Щото ти нямаш никакво.

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Sat Oct 7 08:42:29 2023
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:15:55 AM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:26:35 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

    On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    е важи за (скептични) хора, които са обсебени от епистемологията
    на новините.
    Хора, като например Ивайло П. Иванов.

    Има си българска дума: "достоверност". Резоньорството не те прави
    по-достоверен.
    Рядко има някой като тебе да е така силни и неосъзнати предубежнедия

    Кога съм отричал, че имам предубеждения?!?

    Ми навсякъде ни пробутваш украински "факти" често от източници на които
    в други случаи не се доверяваш.

    Би ли бил по-конкретен?

    , по това

    прилиаш на Пернатка - впрочем Бог да я поживи - с неините
    конспиративни теории.

    Именно това е една от основните разлики между нея и мен.

    Че имате различни предубежнения ли? Нали това казвах.

    Че единия от нас има самосъзнание за предубежненията си а другия не.

    Я пък ти - ако осъзнаваше предубежденията си, нямаше да си такъв.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 7 16:02:37 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Sun Oct 8 06:45:13 2023
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 16:02:37 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:50:55 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:15:55 AM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:26:35 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

    On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    е важи за (скептични) хора, които са обсебени от
    епистемологията на новините.
    Хора, като например Ивайло П. Иванов.

    Има си българска дума: "достоверност". Резоньорството не те прави
    по-достоверен.
    Рядко има някой като тебе да е така силни и неосъзнати
    предубежнедия

    Кога съм отричал, че имам предубеждения?!?

    Ми навсякъде ни пробутваш украински "факти" често от източници на
    които в други случаи не се доверяваш.

    Би ли бил по-конкретен?

    NY Times и Washington Post, например.

    Кога съм оспорвал _факти_ публикувани в NY Times и Washington Post??
    Моят проблем с тях е редакционната им политика, и фактите които _не
    публикуват_, а не фактите, които публикуват.

    Леле, ти си неспасяем. Къде Чорби е споменал нещо за оспорване от твоя
    страна?! Той ти говори точно за обратното - че вярваш на тях и ги
    пробутваш на нас. Как си с четенето с разбиране?

    Става дума за това, че ти вярваш безпрекословно на „фактите", публикувани
    в подобни медии, без да използваш обсесията си към епистемологията на тези
    „факти“, както твърдиш, че обикновено правиш.

    Чорби, не си струва повече да си губиш времето с този (imho).

    И горното му твърдение е потвърждение за това, че изобщо не е осъзнал
    предразсъдъците си и предубежденията си.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 8 15:38:47 2023
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Mon Oct 9 01:01:36 2023
    On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 15:38:47 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Ако аз _вярвам_ на тях и ви ги "пробутвам", какъв е проблема?!?

    Ми никакъв. Само дето се заблуждаваш че си наясно с предубежденята си.

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Mon Oct 9 05:16:39 2023
    On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 15:38:47 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 2:45:15 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 16:02:37 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:50:55 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:15:55 AM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:26:35 PM UTC-4, chorbalan
    wrote:

    On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    е важи за (скептични) хора, които са обсебени от
    епистемологията на новините.
    Хора, като например Ивайло П. Иванов.

    Има си българска дума: "достоверност". Резоньорството не те
    прави по-достоверен.
    Рядко има някой като тебе да е така силни и неосъзнати
    предубежнедия

    Кога съм отричал, че имам предубеждения?!?

    Ми навсякъде ни пробутваш украински "факти" често от източници на
    които в други случаи не се доверяваш.

    Би ли бил по-конкретен?

    NY Times и Washington Post, например.

    Кога съм оспорвал _факти_ публикувани в NY Times и Washington Post??
    Моят проблем с тях е редакционната им политика, и фактите които _не
    публикуват_, а не фактите, които публикуват.

    Леле, ти си неспасяем. Къде Чорби е споменал нещо за оспорване от твоя
    страна?!

    Леле, ти си неспасяем! Какво означава: "източници на които в други
    случаи не се доверяваш"?

    Означава, че медиите, на които вярваш, цитират „факти“ от други медии, на
    които ти не вярваш. Нататък трябва вече да ти е по-лесно.

    Той ти говори точно за обратното - че вярваш на тях и ги пробутваш на
    нас. Как си с четенето с разбиране?

    Ало, как сме с четенето и разбирането? Ако аз _вярвам_ на тях и ви ги
    "пробутвам", какъв е проблема?!?

    Проблемът е, че ги пробутваш, не че вярваш. Вярването е твой проблем. Как
    си с четенето с разбиране? И с осмислянето на писан текст?

    Друг проблем е, че имаш претенции да си наясно със себе си. Виж си там
    дрънканиците за епистемологията.

    Иначе знаеш онзи златен лаф - „Пилите, Шура, пилите. Она золотая.“?

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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