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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 09:41:16 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Интересно мнение.

https://www.dnevnik.bg/analizi/

2023/03/04/4456268_nacionalnata_krepost_v_koiato_se_e_zatvorila_bulgariia/

„У дома липсата на съществени реформи в образователната и други системи
след 1989 г. води до влошаване на наследените проблеми. Към това се
добавят безброй страници черна статистика: българските деца са на последни
позиции по функционална грамотност; българите са на първо място по
смъртност и на последно по продължителност на живота в Европа; на първо
място в ЕС по дял на сивата икономика спрямо БВП...“

това изброеното, дали се дължи на 45-те години социализъм или на 30+
години демокрация?

образователната система, наред със здравеопазването, са двете най-
реформирани системи в българия след 1989 г.

как мислиш, дали госпожицата не послъгва?

„Невъзможно е да строиш общество, ако няма консенсус за минало - каква
всъщност е общата ни история? В държавата ни живеят няколко поколения,
оформени в напълно различни светове - на тоталитарна диктатура, на преход,
и на съвременна (пленена) демокрация. Демокрацията е най-важна ценност за
едва 13% от българите, а само 11% заявяват, че чувстват най-сериозна
принадлежност към света.“

е, моето впечатление е, че такива като нея нито искат, нито търсят
консенсус за миналото.


по-нататък има ли смисъл да се коментира? между другото, под дописката
също има интересни коментари.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 09:41:16 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Интересно мнение.

https://www.dnevnik.bg/analizi/2023/03/04/4456268_nacionalnata_krepost_v_koiato_se_e_zatvorila_bulgariia/

Какво му е интересното - обикновена джендерастка пропаганда..

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 11:09:37 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 10:06:06 AM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 09:41:16 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Интересно мнение.

https://www.dnevnik.bg/analizi/ 2023/03/04/4456268_nacionalnata_krepost_v_koiato_se_e_zatvorila_bulgariia/

„У дома липсата на съществени реформи в образователната и други системи
след 1989 г. води до влошаване на наследените проблеми. Към това се
добавят безброй страници черна статистика: българските деца са на
последни позиции по функционална грамотност; българите са на първо
място по смъртност и на последно по продължителност на живота в Европа;
на първо място в ЕС по дял на сивата икономика спрямо БВП...“

това изброеното, дали се дължи на 45-те години социализъм или на 30+
години демокрация?

В Чехия и Полша също има 30+ години демокрация (и 45 години социализъм).
На какво се дължи по-здравословното състояние на обществото там, според
теб?

първи попитах.

и да те подсетя, че говорим за българия, не за чехия и полша, че пак
изместваш темата.

или да си направя извода, че не можеш да направиш един елементарен анализ
на писан текст?

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 18:06:04 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

българите са на първо място по
смъртност и на последно по продължителност на живота в Европа

За това обаче никой друг не им е виновен - имам над 10 приятели
и познати които се гътнаха без време в резултат на прекалено
пушене, пиене и ядене на боклуци, особено на пиенето.. Българските
тиквеници имат високо кръвно, холестерол и шкембета но не се
отказват от нищо, понеже "нали пия лекарства" !?

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 10:00:29 -0800 (PST), ИлиевBG wrote:

хуманитаристите в БГ са най-активни в „развенчаването на митове“
които по-рано сами са създали?

Toчно това обяснявах преди година тука в Америка относно вилнеещата
джендерастия тука. Спомних си че "Ленин виждаше проблемите там, където
другите виждаха решенията" - демек измисляме си проблеми след което
ги "решаваме" и все сме борци за някаква "правда"..
Aвторката със сигурност е на хранилката на някакво НПО с външно
финансиране.

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:22:10 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 18:06:04 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

българите са на първо място по
смъртност и на последно по продължителност на живота в Европа

За това обаче никой друг не им е виновен - имам над 10 приятели и
познати които се гътнаха без време в резултат на прекалено пушене, пиене
и ядене на боклуци, особено на пиенето.. Българските тиквеници имат
високо кръвно, холестерол и шкембета, но не се отказват от нищо, понеже
"нали пия лекарства" !?

чорби, това са думи на авторката, не мои.

а съм казвал, че нехайството на българите към собственото им здраве, наред
със скапаната здравна система и липсата на профилактика, е една от
причините за това.

е, аз не пуша, пия повече от умерено, храня се също толкова, и пак съм в
категорията „с високо кръвно“.

и странно, преди повече от 30 години не бях в нея 8-)

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:32:09 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:22:10 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 18:06:04 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

българите са на първо място по
смъртност и на последно по продължителност на живота в Европа

За това обаче никой друг не им е виновен - имам над 10 приятели и
познати които се гътнаха без време в резултат на прекалено пушене, пиене
и ядене на боклуци, особено на пиенето.. Българските тиквеници имат
високо кръвно, холестерол и шкембета, но не се отказват от нищо, понеже
"нали пия лекарства" !?

чорби, това са думи на авторката, не мои.

Знам.

а съм казвал, че нехайството на българите към собственото им здраве, наред
със скапаната здравна система и липсата на профилактика, е една от
причините за това.

е, аз не пуша, пия повече от умерено, храня се също толкова, и пак съм в
категорията „с високо кръвно“.

Ми добре, значи си под контрол.

Ама да се обвинява здравната система за кретенията на пациентите е нелепо.

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 20:45:56 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:32:09 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:22:10 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 18:06:04 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

българите са на първо място по
смъртност и на последно по продължителност на живота в Европа

За това обаче никой друг не им е виновен - имам над 10 приятели и
познати които се гътнаха без време в резултат на прекалено пушене,
пиене и ядене на боклуци, особено на пиенето.. Българските тиквеници
имат високо кръвно, холестерол и шкембета, но не се отказват от нищо,
понеже "нали пия лекарства" !?

чорби, това са думи на авторката, не мои.

Знам.

а съм казвал, че нехайството на българите към собственото им здраве,
наред със скапаната здравна система и липсата на профилактика, е една
от причините за това.

е, аз не пуша, пия повече от умерено, храня се също толкова, и пак съм
в категорията „с високо кръвно“.

Ми добре, значи си под контрол.

Ама да се обвинява здравната система за кретенията на пациентите е
нелепо.

не я обвинявам, само обяснявам комбинацията от кретения и калпава здравна
система до какво може да доведе. нищо повече.

все пак феноменът „те това на мен няма да ми се случи“ ми е добре познат.

а не ми се обяснява за последния ми сблъсък със здравната система у нас в
края на миналата година.

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 21:02:42 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

а не ми се обяснява за последния ми сблъсък със здравната
система у нас в края на миналата година.

Toва го има навсякъде, само дето на някои места можеш да се
оправиш по-бързо отколкото на други.

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 02:02:58 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 21:02:42 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

а не ми се обяснява за последния ми сблъсък със здравната система у нас
в края на миналата година.

Toва го има навсякъде, само дето на някои места можеш да се оправиш
по-бързо отколкото на други.

може, но беше много неприятно, но не ми се разправят подробности. случката
не е с мен.

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 07:56:03 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 2:22:59 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 11:09:37 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 10:06:06 AM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 09:41:16 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Интересно мнение.

https://www.dnevnik.bg/analizi/

2023/03/04/4456268_nacionalnata_krepost_v_koiato_se_e_zatvorila_bulgariia/

„У дома липсата на съществени реформи в образователната и други
системи след 1989 г. води до влошаване на наследените проблеми. Към
това се добавят безброй страници черна статистика: българските деца
са на последни позиции по функционална грамотност; българите са на
първо място по смъртност и на последно по продължителност на живота
в Европа; на първо място в ЕС по дял на сивата икономика спрямо
БВП...“

това изброеното, дали се дължи на 45-те години социализъм или на 30+
години демокрация?

В Чехия и Полша също има 30+ години демокрация (и 45 години
социализъм).

На какво се дължи по-здравословното състояние на обществото там,
според теб?

първи попитах.

Дължи се на _всички_ развития в българското общество за последните
100-150 години, които включват 45 години социализъм и 30+ години
(недъгава) демокрация.

и за това са ти виновни пак комунистите? и обърни внимание на кой въпрос
отговаряш и как пропускаш да отговориш на моя въпрос.

и да те подсетя, че говорим за българия, не за чехия и полша, че пак
изместваш темата.

или да си направя извода, че не можеш да направиш един елементарен
анализ на писан текст?

Чехия и Полша са ясна илюстрация защо "30+ години демокрация" не може да
обясни вредни тенденции, специфични за България.

аха, значи говориш за специфични за българия (според теб) тенденции и ги
обясняваш с чужди държави? има ли нещо между ушите ти?

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 10:52:38 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 07:56:03 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 2:22:59 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 11:09:37 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 10:06:06 AM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 09:41:16 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Интересно мнение.

https://www.dnevnik.bg/analizi/ 2023/03/04/4456268_nacionalnata_krepost_v_koiato_se_e_zatvorila_bulgariia/

„У дома липсата на съществени реформи в образователната и други
системи след 1989 г. води до влошаване на наследените проблеми.
Към това се добавят безброй страници черна статистика:
българските деца са на последни позиции по функционална
грамотност; българите са на първо място по смъртност и на
последно по продължителност на живота в Европа; на първо място в
ЕС по дял на сивата икономика спрямо БВП...“

това изброеното, дали се дължи на 45-те години социализъм или на
30+ години демокрация?

В Чехия и Полша също има 30+ години демокрация (и 45 години
социализъм).

На какво се дължи по-здравословното състояние на обществото там,
според теб?

първи попитах.

Дължи се на _всички_ развития в българското общество за последните
100-150 години, които включват 45 години социализъм и 30+ години
(недъгава) демокрация.

и за това са ти виновни пак комунистите? и обърни внимание на кой
въпрос отговаряш и как пропускаш да отговориш на моя въпрос.

Ти намесваш комунистите в тази дискусия, не аз, но щом настояваш:
Комунистите капсулираха България за 45 години. Резултата беше, че
огромного мнозинство българи живяли по това време имаха напълно
изкривени представи за мястото на България на световната сцена. Това
няма как да няма негативни отражения днес. Виж всички други подобни
страни. Отделно, българският "преход" беше почти изцяло деригиран от
комунистически кадри. При тези обективни реалности се получи логичната
развръзка.

умнико, комунистите ги намесва авторката с твърдението, което съм цитирал.
толкова ли е трудно да го разбереш?

както казах вече, на теб все те са ти виновни.

За Полша и Чехия: И двете страни имаха голяма диаспора и като цяло не
бяха така напълно капсулирани като България. Моето лично обяснение за
различните реалности там днес е свързано предимно с това. Не че те си
нямат проблеми свързани с миналото (вкл. комунистическото).

полша и чехия са ирелевантни в този случай, не те са причина за това,
което авторката описва.

вече казах, че след 1989 година, образованието и здравеопазването са двете
най-реформирани области у нас.

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 07:47:46 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 2:16:25 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 10:00:29 -0800 (PST), ИлиевBG wrote:

хуманитаристите в БГ са най-активни в „развенчаването на митове“
които по-рано сами са създали?

Toчно това обяснявах преди година тука в Америка относно вилнеещата
джендерастия тука. Спомних си че "Ленин виждаше проблемите там, където
другите виждаха решенията" - демек измисляме си проблеми след което
ги "решаваме" и все сме борци за някаква "правда"..
Aвторката със сигурност е на хранилката на някакво НПО с външно
финансиране.

Предполагам по твоите разбирания всеки българин следващ в Западна Европа
или САЩ е "на хранилката на някакво НПО с външно финансиране".

От къде направи този изрод?

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 12:50:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 3:48:08 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 07:47:46 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 2:16:25 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 10:00:29 -0800 (PST), ИлиевBG wrote:

хуманитаристите в БГ са най-активни в „развенчаването на митове“
които по-рано сами са създали?

Toчно това обяснявах преди година тука в Америка относно вилнеещата
джендерастия тука. Спомних си че "Ленин виждаше проблемите там, където
другите виждаха решенията" - демек измисляме си проблеми след което
ги "решаваме" и все сме борци за някаква "правда"..
Aвторката със сигурност е на хранилката на някакво НПО с външно
финансиране.

Предполагам по твоите разбирания всеки българин следващ в Западна Европа
или САЩ е "на хранилката на някакво НПО с външно финансиране".

От къде направи този изрод?

?

Извод

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 17:41:55 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Западна Европа и САЩ са нищо без експлоатацията на останалия свят.

Ми светът вместо да дреме що не вземе на експлоатира САЩ?
Китай го прави,, останалите що дремят?

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 23:15:39 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 17:41:55 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Западна Европа и САЩ са нищо без експлоатацията на останалия свят.

Ми светът вместо да дреме що не вземе на експлоатира САЩ?
Китай го прави,, останалите що дремят?

не дремят, но ако си мислиш че е лесно.
В цялата си история Западът е имал роби, колонии,
експлоатация. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1190230708292817/?s=single_unit

А изтока не ли? А Африка и там ли не?

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 23:41:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 11:38:03 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 23:15:39 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 17:41:55 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Западна Европа и САЩ са нищо без експлоатацията на останалия свят.

Ми светът вместо да дреме що не вземе на експлоатира САЩ?
Китай го прави,, останалите що дремят?

не дремят, но ако си мислиш че е лесно.
В цялата си история Западът е имал роби, колонии,
експлоатация.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1190230708292817/?s=single_unit

А изтока не ли? А Африка и там ли не?

не

Слаб 2 по история.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 09:16:57 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Има "западен" мироглед (т.е. й липсва кмплекса за величие или малоценност),
но не виждам как това те прави "джендераст"?

Няма просто "западен" мироглед, а има западен мироглед от джендерастки тип.
Ти явно само това признаваш за западен мироглед, или не?

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 10:21:08 -0800 (PST), ИлиевBG wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:16:58 PM UTC+2, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

..................

......... Има "западен" мироглед (т.е. й липсва комплекса за величие
или малоценност), ..........

Малко е дълго, но може би ще е интересно за някой от вас
https://literaturensviat.com/?p=189366 там има и такава фраза:
"А ето и стандартното заключение в духа на Сорос: Няма нужда от
български гражданин! Има нужда от гражданин на света! "

мислиш ли, че ще го разбере?

а иначе авторът е https://literaturensviat.com/?p=14972

интересна биография, не е живял скучно човека (imho).

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:18:10 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 1:21:10 PM UTC-5, ИлиевBG wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:16:58 PM UTC+2, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
..................

......... Има "западен" мироглед (т.е. й липсва комплекса за величие
или малоценност), ..........

Малко е дълго, но може би ще е интересно за някой от вас
https://literaturensviat.com/?p=189366 там има и такава фраза:
"А ето и стандартното заключение в духа на Сорос: Няма нужда от
български гражданин! Има нужда от гражданин на света! "
а иначе авторът е https://literaturensviat.com/?p=14972

Не разбирам защо западния мироглед трябва да се свързва винаги със
Сорос?

"Сорос" не е Запада.

попитай „отворено общество“, щом не разбираш.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:18:10 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 1:21:10 PM UTC-5, ИлиевBG wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:16:58 PM UTC+2, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
..................

......... Има "западен" мироглед (т.е. й липсва >> > комплекса за величие или малоценност), ..........

Малко е дълго, но може би ще е интересно за някой от вас
https://literaturensviat.com/?p=189366
там има и такава фраза:
"А ето и стандартното заключение в духа на Сорос: Няма нужда от български гражданин! Има нужда от гражданин на света! "
а иначе авторът е
https://literaturensviat.com/?p=14972

Не разбирам защо западния мироглед трябва да се свързва винаги със Сорос?
"Сорос" не е Запада.

Не винаги, но в случая с авторката.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:20:35 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:06:03 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 09:16:57 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Има "западен" мироглед (т.е. й липсва кмплекса за величие или малоценност),
но не виждам как това те прави "джендераст"?

Няма просто "западен" мироглед, а има западен мироглед от джендерастки тип.
Ти явно само това признаваш за западен мироглед, или не?

Кое от написаното от дамата те кара да мислиш, че тя има "мироглед от джендерастки тип"?

Глобалистка и изглежда историческа ревизионистка. + Истамбулска конвенционалистка..

Любопитен съм да науча. Аз "джендерист" ли съм?

Ти май не си, но когато стане дума за Русия си годов да "обърнеш резбата"..

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 10:06:54 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Средната заплата на работниците във Фейсбук (Мета) е $300,000.

Бе нали уж си то фактите, а гле'й какви ги дрънкаш!?

Facebook Inc pays its employees an average of $128,090 a year. Salaries
at Facebook Inc range from an average of $83,279 to $187,600 a year.
Facebook Inc employees with the job title Senior Software Engineer make
the most with an average annual salary of $149,401, while employees with
the title Product Specialist, (Unspecified Type) make the least with an
average annual salary of $82,179.

The highest reported salary for an employee at Facebook Inc is currently $188k / year

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 12:13:39 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:42:39 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:18:10 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 1:21:10 PM UTC-5, ИлиевBG wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:16:58 PM UTC+2, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
..................

......... Има "западен" мироглед (т.е. й липсва комплекса за
величие или малоценност), ..........

Малко е дълго, но може би ще е интересно за някой от вас
https://literaturensviat.com/?p=189366 там има и такава фраза:
"А ето и стандартното заключение в духа на Сорос: Няма нужда от
български гражданин! Има нужда от гражданин на света! "
а иначе авторът е https://literaturensviat.com/?p=14972

Не разбирам защо западния мироглед трябва да се свързва винаги със
Сорос?

"Сорос" не е Запада.

попитай „отворено общество“, щом не разбираш.

Какво за „отворено общество“?

да ги питаш тях, какво не разбра?

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 12:16:21 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 3:01:26 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:20:35 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:06:03 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 09:16:57 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Има "западен" мироглед (т.е. й липсва кмплекса за величие или малоценност),
но не виждам как това те прави "джендераст"?

Няма просто "западен" мироглед, а има западен мироглед от джендерастки тип.
Ти явно само това признаваш за западен мироглед, или не?

Кое от написаното от дамата те кара да мислиш, че тя има "мироглед от джендерастки тип"?

Глобалистка и изглежда историческа ревизионистка. + Истамбулска конвенционалистка..

"Истанбулската конвенция" е в главите на хората, описани от Йоанна Елми в нейната статия.

Тогава защо се настоява за нея?

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 12:39:34 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 3:09:37 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 10:06:54 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Средната заплата на работниците във Фейсбук (Мета) е $300,000.

Бе нали уж си то фактите, а гле'й какви ги дрънкаш!?

Facebook Inc pays its employees an average of $128,090 a year. Salaries
at Facebook Inc range from an average of $83,279 to $187,600 a year.
Facebook Inc employees with the job title Senior Software Engineer make
the most with an average annual salary of $149,401, while employees with
the title Product Specialist, (Unspecified Type) make the least with an
average annual salary of $82,179.

Предполагам $300,000 се отнася за американските им работници.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/alphabet-meta-had-highest-paid-median-workers-in-2021-says-report-122060300275_1.html

В статията не е уточнено. Дали е $130,000 или $300,000 е безпредметно за моя аргумент. Гугъл и Мета имат най-високи
средни заплати за "S&P 500 corporations" _и_ най-високи печалби от работник - $300,000 за Мета и $320,000 за Гугъл.
Корелацията между високи средни заплати и печалба на глава работник, поне САЩ, сигурно е към 0.8. Връзката е
логична за всеки, който може да мисли.

Как не забеляза тънката разлика между заплата и възнаграждение( compensation )!?

The highest reported salary for an employee at Facebook Inc is currently $188k / year

Това е абсурдно твърдение.

Кое му е абсурдното? Това идва от payscale.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:04:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Защото онези в Европа, които настояват за нейното въвеждане, я свързват с
насилието срещу жените, а не с "джендъризма".

Глупост! Срещу насилие си има закони, но на конвенцията целта е подмолно
да прокара "джендъризма" чрез уж невинното му включване в конвенцията.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:15:44 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:04:37 PM UTC-5, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

...

Ако "джендъризма" бъде наложен нсила в Европа това нама да стане чрез "Истанбулската конвенция". Ще стане
чрез институциите в Страсбург и Брюксел. Можем само да се надяваме, че здравият разум ще надделее, и
няма да се стигне до там.

По тази тема забравям да подчертая една иронична подробност: Ако Украйна влезе в ЕС, влиянието на "джендъристите"
в ЕС силно ще намалее. Гравитацията на културното (и политическото) пространство в ЕС силно ще наклони към Източна
Европа, тъй като 1/3 от населението ще бъде източноевропейско. Ако гледаш клипове от войната не може да не си
забелязал, че украинските войници рутинно наричат руснаците "пидери" - "пидерите" това, "пидерите" онова.

Ми те ще дойдат в ЕС след време. До тогава джендеризмът може да е на отживяване..

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:33:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:27:03 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:04:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Защото онези в Европа, които настояват за нейното въвеждане, я свързват с
насилието срещу жените, а не с "джендъризма".

Глупост! Срещу насилие си има закони, но на конвенцията целта е подмолно
да прокара "джендъризма" чрез уж невинното му включване в конвенцията.

Ако това е била очевидната цел защо дори Турция на Ердоган я подписа (първоначално)?

За да залъжат ЕС за членство. Като видяха че няма членство и я зарязаха.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:33:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:27:03 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:04:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Защото онези в Европа, които настояват за нейното въвеждане, я
свързват с насилието срещу жените, а не с "джендъризма".

Глупост! Срещу насилие си има закони, но на конвенцията целта е
подмолно да прокара "джендъризма" чрез уж невинното му включване в
конвенцията.

Ако това е била очевидната цел защо дори Турция на Ердоган я подписа
(първоначално)?

а защо оттегли подписа си?

не забравяй, че турция тогава много искаше да бъде приета в ес.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:03:03 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:00:15 AM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 23:41:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 11:38:03 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 23:15:39 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 17:41:55 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Западна Европа и САЩ са нищо без експлоатацията на останалия
свят.

Ми светът вместо да дреме що не вземе на експлоатира САЩ?
Китай го прави,, останалите що дремят?

не дремят, но ако си мислиш че е лесно.
В цялата си история Западът е имал роби, колонии,
експлоатация.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1190230708292817/?s=single_unit

А изтока не ли? А Африка и там ли не?

не

Слаб 2 по история.

:-)))))

кои са колониите на Африка?

чорби акцентира върху робството, иначе и източна европа не е имала
колонии.

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On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:01:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 6:23:23 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:33:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:27:03 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:04:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Защото онези в Европа, които настояват за нейното въвеждане, я свързват с
насилието срещу жените, а не с "джендъризма".

Глупост! Срещу насилие си има закони, но на конвенцията целта е подмолно
да прокара "джендъризма" чрез уж невинното му включване в конвенцията.

Ако това е била очевидната цел защо дори Турция на Ердоган я подписа (първоначално)?

За да залъжат ЕС за членство. Като видяха че няма членство и я зарязаха.

Истанбулската конвенция беше подписна през 2011. Тогава кой изобщо е говорил за "джендъризм"?
По него време "gender dysphoria" все още беше определяна като психиатрично заболяване в западните
учебници по медицина. Вие в случая сте като тях - искате да пренапишете историята.

Значи са допълвали след 2011, щото това е част от конвенцията. К'во се правиш на ударен?

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On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 13:19:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 2:31:57 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:01:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 6:23:23 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:33:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:27:03 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:04:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Защото онези в Европа, които настояват за нейното въвеждане, я свързват с
насилието срещу жените, а не с "джендъризма".

Глупост! Срещу насилие си има закони, но на конвенцията целта е подмолно
да прокара "джендъризма" чрез уж невинното му включване в конвенцията.

Ако това е била очевидната цел защо дори Турция на Ердоган я подписа (първоначално)?

За да залъжат ЕС за членство. Като видяха че няма членство и я зарязаха.

Истанбулската конвенция беше подписна през 2011. Тогава кой изобщо е говорил за "джендъризм"?
По него време "gender dysphoria" все още беше определяна като психиатрично заболяване в западните
учебници по медицина. Вие в случая сте като тях - искате да пренапишете историята.

Значи са допълвали след 2011, щото това е част от конвенцията. К'во се правиш на ударен?

Какво са "допълвали след 2011"?

Конвенцията. С джендърските текстове. Иначе защо изведнъж стана проблем?

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On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 17:28:01 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:28:05 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:03:03 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:00:15 AM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 23:41:52 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 11:38:03 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 23:15:39 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 7:12:22 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 17:41:55 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote: >>

Западна Европа и САЩ са нищо без експлоатацията на останалия
свят.

Ми светът вместо да дреме що не вземе на експлоатира САЩ?
Китай го прави,, останалите що дремят?

не дремят, но ако си мислиш че е лесно. >> >> >> > В цялата си история Западът е имал роби, колонии,
експлоатация.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1190230708292817/?s=single_unit

А изтока не ли? А Африка и там ли не?

не

Слаб 2 по история.

:-)))))

кои са колониите на Африка?

чорби акцентира върху робството, иначе и източна европа не е имала
колонии.

Аз говорех за колонизиране, заробване (в смисъл на подчинение)
това го умеят САЩ и Западна Европа.

А кой не го умее, птицечовкова?

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On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 19:49:47 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 6:39:31 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 13:19:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 2:31:57 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:01:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 6:23:23 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:33:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:27:03 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:04:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Защото онези в Европа, които настояват за нейното въвеждане, я свързват с
насилието срещу жените, а не с "джендъризма".

Глупост! Срещу насилие си има закони, но на конвенцията целта е подмолно
да прокара "джендъризма" чрез уж невинното му включване в конвенцията.

Ако това е била очевидната цел защо дори Турция на Ердоган я подписа (първоначално)?

За да залъжат ЕС за членство. Като видяха че няма членство и я зарязаха.

Истанбулската конвенция беше подписна през 2011. Тогава кой изобщо е говорил за "джендъризм"?
По него време "gender dysphoria" все още беше определяна като психиатрично заболяване в западните
учебници по медицина. Вие в случая сте като тях - искате да пренапишете историята.

Значи са допълвали след 2011, щото това е част от конвенцията. К'во се правиш на ударен?

Какво са "допълвали след 2011"?

Конвенцията. С джендърските текстове. Иначе защо изведнъж стана проблем?

Именно на този въпрос трябва да си отговориш. Защо документ подписан от десетки държави през 2011
без особени спорове стана проблем 6-7 години по-късно?

Ами защото тогава почнаха да натискат Източна Европа, която се опъна на джендерията?

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:25:14 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Докато Западът и САЩ могат само това.

A изтока защо забрави, малоглавке? Египет? Вавилон? Хуни? Турци? Монголи? Японци? Китайци? И други..
А Африка къде отиде? Нубия, Картаген, Тимбукту, Зулуската империя и т.н...
Главата ти е куха Съевата Дупка :-)

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 17:47:10 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 11:09:52 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 19:49:47 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 6:39:31 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 13:19:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 2:31:57 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:01:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 6:23:23 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:33:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:27:03 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:04:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Защото онези в Европа, които настояват за нейното въвеждане, я свързват с
насилието срещу жените, а не с "джендъризма".

Глупост! Срещу насилие си има закони, но на конвенцията целта е подмолно
да прокара "джендъризма" чрез уж невинното му включване в конвенцията.

Ако това е била очевидната цел защо дори Турция на Ердоган я подписа (първоначално)?

За да залъжат ЕС за членство. Като видяха че няма членство и я зарязаха.

Истанбулската конвенция беше подписна през 2011. Тогава кой изобщо е говорил за "джендъризм"?
По него време "gender dysphoria" все още беше определяна като психиатрично заболяване в западните
учебници по медицина. Вие в случая сте като тях - искате да пренапишете историята.

Значи са допълвали след 2011, щото това е част от конвенцията. К'во се правиш на ударен?

Какво са "допълвали след 2011"?

Конвенцията. С джендърските текстове. Иначе защо изведнъж стана проблем?

Именно на този въпрос трябва да си отговориш. Защо документ подписан от десетки държави през 2011
без особени спорове стана проблем 6-7 години по-късно?

Ами защото тогава почнаха да натискат Източна Европа, която се опъна на джендерията?

Сбъркал си причинноследстената връзка.

Kaк точно?

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 03:22:07 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 17:47:10 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 11:09:52 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 19:49:47 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 6:39:31 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 13:19:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 2:31:57 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:01:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 6:23:23 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:33:12 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:27:03 PM UTC-5, chorbalan
wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 14:04:36 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov
wrote:

Защото онези в Европа, които настояват за нейното
въвеждане, я свързват с насилието срещу жените, а не с
"джендъризма".

Глупост! Срещу насилие си има закони, но на конвенцията
целта е подмолно да прокара "джендъризма" чрез уж
невинното му включване в конвенцията.

Ако това е била очевидната цел защо дори Турция на Ердоган
я подписа (първоначално)?

За да залъжат ЕС за членство. Като видяха че няма членство и
я зарязаха.

Истанбулската конвенция беше подписна през 2011. Тогава кой
изобщо е говорил за "джендъризм"?
По него време "gender dysphoria" все още беше определяна като
психиатрично заболяване в западните учебници по медицина. Вие
в случая сте като тях - искате да пренапишете историята.

Значи са допълвали след 2011, щото това е част от конвенцията.
К'во се правиш на ударен?

Какво са "допълвали след 2011"?

Конвенцията. С джендърските текстове. Иначе защо изведнъж стана
проблем?

Именно на този въпрос трябва да си отговориш. Защо документ подписан
от десетки държави през 2011 без особени спорове стана проблем 6-7
години по-късно?

Ами защото тогава почнаха да натискат Източна Европа, която се опъна
на джендерията?

Сбъркал си причинноследстената връзка.

Kaк точно?

намеква ти, че първо източна европа е започнала да се опъва и тогава са я
натиснали, но забравя за причината за опъването и твърди, че тя всъщност
не е съществувала.

абе положението е неспасяемо :)

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:10:21 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

После руската пропаганда усети, че може да превърне ратифицирането
в "wedge issue" запали фитила в България и цяла Източна Европа.

Aйде пак си пееме песента...

*Това съвпадна с джендърастките екцесии в САЩ (при президенството на
Тръмп), което силно улесни задачата им.

Ето ти отговора защо, а не "това съвпадна"..

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 19:01:48 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 8:21:18 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:10:21 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

После руската пропаганда усети, че може да превърне ратифицирането
в "wedge issue" запали фитила в България и цяла Източна Европа.

Aйде пак си пееме песента...

*Това съвпадна с джендърастките екцесии в САЩ (при президенството на
Тръмп), което силно улесни задачата им.

Ето ти отговора защо, а не "това съвпадна"..

Но конвенцията няма нищо общо с джендъристите, за които през 2011
никой не беше и чувал. Тогава на дневен ред сред световната прогрерсатия
все още бяха педерстките бракове, които нямат нищо общо с Истанбулската
конвенция.

Ми добре. Значи "подводният камък" е забелязан по-късно и курсът - сменен.

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