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On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 11:11:04 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-02-17/prior-covid-infection-brings-strong-long-lasting-immunity-study

Близки хора с ваксина се разболяха два пъти - един път преди
ваксината и после още един път. И двата пъти с температура.

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On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 17:59:38 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:16:49 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 11:11:04 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-02-17/prior-covid-infection-brings-strong-long-lasting-immunity-study

Близки хора с ваксина се разболяха два пъти - един път преди
ваксината и после още един път. И двата пъти с температура.

И какво следва според теб от това? :-)

Че поне при някои хора няма ниаккъв prior-covid-infection-brings-strong-long-lasting-immunity.
Прочее само едно изследване може да ти покаже какво ли не, трябват повече
иначе изглежда като анекдотен резултат.

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On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 00:16:48 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 11:11:04 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-02-17/prior- covid-infection-brings-strong-long-lasting-immunity-study

Близки хора с ваксина се разболяха два пъти - един път преди ваксината и
после още един път. И двата пъти с температура.

не са единствените, короната първият път в къщи я донесе ваксиниран човек.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 16:16:21 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:53:48 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 00:16:48 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 11:11:04 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-02-17/prior-

covid-infection-brings-strong-long-lasting-immunity-study

Близки хора с ваксина се разболяха два пъти - един път преди
ваксината и после още един път. И двата пъти с температура.

не са единствените, короната първият път в къщи я донесе ваксиниран
човек.

Хората не могат да разберат, че ваксинираните са по-заразни.
И боледуват повече.

чак пък по-заразни? това не е ли количествен критерий?

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 13:49:11 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 7:35:10 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 16:16:21 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:53:48 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 00:16:48 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 11:11:04 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-02-17/ prior-covid-infection-brings-strong-long-lasting-immunity-study

Близки хора с ваксина се разболяха два пъти - един път преди
ваксината и после още един път. И двата пъти с температура.

не са единствените, короната първият път в къщи я донесе ваксиниран
човек.

Хората не могат да разберат, че ваксинираните са по-заразни.
И боледуват повече.

чак пък по-заразни? това не е ли количествен критерий?

Това един доктор в България го обясняваше защо е така.
Не, не Мангъров. И помня водещата го накра 2-3 пъти да го обясни.

може, доктори не гледам по телевизията, но за мен заразността е
количествен критерий, за които критерии си има методология за изследване.
за това питам - как е установено, че са по-заразни. ако не са правени
такива изследвания, значи това твърдение подлежи на доказване.

лично за мен е по-важно, от епидемиологична гледна точка, че и двамата
(ваксинирания и неваксинирания) са заразоносители, което обезмисля
ваксините като такива, ако и да смениха сзо дефиницията за ваксина.

както и да е, няма какво да говорим повече, че ставаме досадни.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 13:40:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Но иначе, да, официално, и ваксинирани, и неваксинирани могат да се
заразяват, да пренсят заразата, да боледуват и тн.

Само че ваксинираните боледуват леко и не умират.
В Бг умрелите са много и все неваксинирани, от "много" акъл..

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On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 23:49:30 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 13:40:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Но иначе, да, официално, и ваксинирани, и неваксинирани могат да се
заразяват, да пренсят заразата, да боледуват и тн.

Само че ваксинираните боледуват леко и не умират.
В Бг умрелите са много и все неваксинирани, от "много" акъл..

това вече беше многократно коментирано и ти предлагам да не тръгваме в
тази посока, съгласен ли си?

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On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 13:40:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 9:41:23 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 13:49:11 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 7:35:10 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 16:16:21 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:53:48 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 00:16:48 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 11:11:04 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-02-17/

prior-covid-infection-brings-strong-long-lasting-immunity-study

Близки хора с ваксина се разболяха два пъти - един път преди
ваксината и после още един път. И двата пъти с температура.

не са единствените, короната първият път в къщи я донесе
ваксиниран човек.

Хората не могат да разберат, че ваксинираните са по-заразни.
И боледуват повече.

чак пък по-заразни? това не е ли количествен критерий?

Това един доктор в България го обясняваше защо е така.
Не, не Мангъров. И помня водещата го накра 2-3 пъти да го обясни.

може, доктори не гледам по телевизията, но за мен заразността е
количествен критерий, за които критерии си има методология за
изследване.

за това питам - как е установено, че са по-заразни. ако не са правени
такива изследвания, значи това твърдение подлежи на доказване.

лично за мен е по-важно, от епидемиологична гледна точка, че и двамата
(ваксинирания и неваксинирания) са заразоносители, което обезмисля
ваксините като такива, ако и да смениха сзо дефиницията за ваксина.

както и да е, няма какво да говорим повече, че ставаме досадни.

A какво ти пука, да не четат :-)))
според мен това са много съществени неща.

може да са съществени, но начинът на реагиране в групата е еднопосочен.

Беше някакъв авторитетен лекар, но уви не запомних името.
Той обясняваше нещо, че ваксината предпазвала вътрешните органи,
но не и респираторните и затова ваксинираните били по-големи
разространители на заразата, опитах да го намеря и не можах.

стига де, това не е сериозно. механизмът на действие на ваксините не
предполага избирателна защита на отделни органи, даже бих казал - на
никакви органи. отделно, респираторните органи не са ли вътрешни органи и
те?

не знам защо ги е говорил такива този авторитетен доктор, ако си го
разбрала правилно.

Но иначе, да, официално, и ваксинирани, и неваксинирани могат да се
заразяват, да пренасят заразата, да боледуват и тн.

значи ваксините не са точно ваксини (дано само ивайло е достатъчно умен да
си замълчи) :)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)