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    From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 17 04:11:17 2022
    https://kiselec1.blogspot.com/2018/06/4-80-70-197980.html

    Просто великолепен, как да не тъгуваш по него!?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?0JjQu9C40LXQskJH?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 17 02:45:11 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 17 15:58:51 2022
    On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:45:11 -0800 (PST), ИлиевBG wrote:

    On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 6:11:19 AM UTC+2, chorbalan wrote:
    https://kiselec1.blogspot.com/2018/06/4-80-70-197980.html

    Просто великолепен, как да не тъгуваш по него!?

    Я разкажи какво си страдал от цените през 80-те.

    Това е за тия които твърдат че тогава било по-евтино от сега.
    А лично аз страдах, например, от липсата на банани и от цената им:
    един ден работа за две кила банани Така беше с всичко.

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 17 19:34:33 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 18 03:20:14 2022
    On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 11:37:03 -0800 (PST), ИлиевBG wrote:

    On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:58:54 PM UTC+2, chorbalan wrote:
    On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:45:11 -0800 (PST), ИлиевBG wrote:

    On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 6:11:19 AM UTC+2, chorbalan wrote:
    https://kiselec1.blogspot.com/2018/06/4-80-70-197980.html

    Просто великолепен, как да не тъгуваш по него!?

    Я разкажи какво си страдал от цените през 80-те.

    Това е за тия които твърдат че тогава било по-евтино от сега.
    А лично аз страдах, например, от липсата на банани и от цената им:
    един ден работа за две кила банани Така беше с всичко.

    .................................. :)
    Майка едно време ме караше да ям банан за да ме пусне да играя на
    улицата, бях много злояда, помня ядях го и сълзите ми течаха,

    :-D
    Па то при нея какво не е наопаки?

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 17 19:37:36 2022
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  • From N Kostoff@21:1/5 to chorbalan on Sun Dec 18 09:14:44 2022
    On 17.12.2022 г. 17:58, chorbalan wrote:
    On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:45:11 -0800 (PST), ИлиевBG wrote:

    On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 6:11:19 AM UTC+2, chorbalan wrote:
    https://kiselec1.blogspot.com/2018/06/4-80-70-197980.html

    Просто великолепен, как да не тъгуваш по него!?

    Я разкажи какво си страдал от цените през 80-те.

    Това е за тия които твърдат че тогава било по-евтино от сега.
    А лично аз страдах, например, от липсата на банани и от цената им:
    един ден работа за две кила банани Така беше с всичко.


    По онези години беше в сила парадоксът на дефицита, при който поради
    постоянната липса на едни или други неща се създаваше измамно усещане,
    че парите стигат за всичко.

    За мен, например, сметките за електричество - отоплявах се на ток - бяха
    доста сериозно перо и ако не работех допълнително, щеше да ми бъде
    трудно да ги посрещам.

    --
    _____
    НК

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 18 10:37:21 2022
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  • From N Kostoff@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Mon Dec 19 09:18:05 2022
    On 18.12.2022 г. 20:37, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 2:14:46 AM UTC-5, N Kostoff wrote:
    ....
    За мен, например, сметките за електричество - отоплявах се на ток - бяха
    доста сериозно перо и ако не работех допълнително, щеше да ми бъде
    трудно да ги посрещам.

    В този контекст не зле да се отбележи, че след 1984 извън София имаше значителен "дефицит" на ток, в един момент
    (февруари 1985) почти толкова тежък, колкото в Украйна по време на война.


    Зимата 1984/85 бяхме на режим 3/3.Вечерният час беше от 20 до 23 часа и
    вървеше закачката, че полвин София, която имаше ток за "интелектуалци",
    щото можеха да видят поредната серия на "Робинята Изаура" или "Жената
    зад щанда", а другата - сексуални маниаци, щото на тъмно, нали, какво му
    остава на човек ;)
    Но имаше и нещо друго - лимити на потребление. За такива като мен, без
    ТЕЦ, месечният лимит беше 1100 квтч, което не стигаше за прилично
    отопление. Над това количество токът беше по-скъп. Не помня вече
    числата, но при заплата 260 и майчинството на жена ми беше доста тегаво.
    Добре, че се намираше "халтура".

    --
    _____
    НК

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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to N Kostoff on Mon Dec 19 07:23:27 2022
    On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 09:18:05 +0200, N Kostoff wrote:

    On 18.12.2022 г. 20:37, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 2:14:46 AM UTC-5, N Kostoff wrote:
    ....
    За мен, например, сметките за електричество - отоплявах се на ток - бяха
    доста сериозно перо и ако не работех допълнително, щеше да ми бъде
    трудно да ги посрещам.

    В този контекст не зле да се отбележи, че след 1984 извън София имаше значителен "дефицит" на ток, в един момент
    (февруари 1985) почти толкова тежък, колкото в Украйна по време на война.


    Зимата 1984/85 бяхме на режим 3/3.Вечерният час беше от 20 до 23 часа и
    вървеше закачката, че полвин София, която имаше ток за "интелектуалци",
    щото можеха да видят поредната серия на "Робинята Изаура" или "Жената
    зад щанда", а другата - сексуални маниаци, щото на тъмно, нали, какво му
    остава на човек ;)
    Но имаше и нещо друго - лимити на потребление. За такива като мен, без
    ТЕЦ, месечният лимит беше 1100 квтч, което не стигаше за прилично
    отопление. Над това количество токът беше по-скъп. Не помня вече
    числата, но при заплата 260 и майчинството на жена ми беше доста тегаво.
    Добре, че се намираше "халтура".

    Станал си критичен към "народната власт", преди не беше такъв ;-)

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  • From N Kostoff@21:1/5 to chorbalan on Mon Dec 19 12:30:31 2022
    On 19.12.2022 г. 9:23, chorbalan wrote:
    ....

    Станал си критичен към "народната власт", преди не беше такъв ;-)

    Бъркаш ме с някого. Винаги съм бил критичен към режима преди 89-а. Но
    съм клонил повече или по-малко към социалдемокрацията.

    --
    _____
    НК

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?0JjQu9C40LXQskJH?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 19 09:44:16 2022
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  • From N Kostoff@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 21 21:37:40 2022
    On 19.12.2022 г. 19:55, ИлиевBG wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 9:18:05 AM UTC+2, N Kostoff wrote:
    On 18.12.2022 г. 20:37, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 2:14:46 AM UTC-5, N Kostoff wrote:
    ....
    За мен, например, сметките за електричество - отоплявах се на ток - бяха
    доста сериозно перо и ако не работех допълнително, щеше да ми бъде
    трудно да ги посрещам.

    В този контекст не зле да се отбележи, че след 1984 извън София имаше значителен "дефицит" на ток, в един момент
    (февруари 1985) почти толкова тежък, колкото в Украйна по време на война.


    Зимата 1984/85 бяхме на режим 3/3.Вечерният час беше от 20 до 23 часа и
    вървеше закачката, че полвин София, която имаше ток за "интелектуалци",
    щото можеха да видят поредната серия на "Робинята Изаура" или "Жената
    зад щанда", а другата - сексуални маниаци, щото на тъмно, нали, какво му
    остава на човек ;)
    Но имаше и нещо друго - лимити на потребление. За такива като мен, без
    ТЕЦ, месечният лимит беше 1100 квтч, което не стигаше за прилично
    отопление. Над това количество токът беше по-скъп. Не помня вече
    числата, но при заплата 260 и майчинството на жена ми беше доста тегаво.
    Добре, че се намираше "халтура".

    --
    _____
    НК
    Месечен лимит от 1100 квтч осигурява непрекъснато потребление от 1537 вата, което си е стабилен електрически радиатор в непрекъснат режим.

    И което обезпечава отопление в едно помещение. И не включва готварска
    печка и бойлер за топлата вода. А тогава децата бяха на 2-3 години.

    При режим 3/3 мощността може да се увеличи двойно в границите на
    лимита. При цени за дневна тарифа 0.032 лв/квтч и нощна тарифа 0.01
    лв/квтч обшата сума би била 24.47 лв (дневна) + 3.67 лв(нощна) = 28,41
    лв на месец. При заплата 260 лв това е около 10% от зимните разходи.


    --
    _____
    НК

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