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On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:47:41 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Специално за Чорби - защо не точно абортите са отговорни за провала
на републиканците вчера.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/11/red-mist/

Дрън-дрън... Как ще ми обясниш "прогресивните" 4 гадини останаха на
местата си, а републиканците уж загубили заради подкрепа за Тръмп?
Не е ли по-скоро както каза оная от Аризона - прекалено самоуверени
в победата републиканцките избиратели не гласуваха така масово както
трябваше. Може би подведени от червеноидната преса ;-)
Сенатът ще си остане същият, Представителите ще са в републиканците,
педокрацията почва да къца и с двата крака.

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On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 21:08:02 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 7:15:43 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:47:41 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Специално за Чорби - защо не точно абортите са отговорни за провала
на републиканците вчера.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/11/red-mist/

Дрън-дрън... Как ще ми обясниш "прогресивните" 4 гадини останаха на
местата си,

За кои "прогресивни 4 гадини" говорим?

Александра Кортес, суданката(Ирхан,Ихрам?), мексиканката и още една

а републиканците уж загубили заради подкрепа за Тръмп?

Намесата на Tръмп* беше от критично значение за номинацията на 5 кандидати за
сената. Трима се издъниха в щати, в които републиканците иначе можеха да бият.

Това е само теоретично. Иначе е ясно че Западът се комуноидизира и явно така
ще е и занапред, в следващите 30-40 години..

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Am 10.11.2022 um 06:08 schrieb Ivaylo Ivanov:

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 7:15:43 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:47:41 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Специално за Чорби - защо не точно абортите са отговорни за провала
на републиканците вчера.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/11/red-mist/

Дрън-дрън... Как ще ми обясниш "прогресивните" 4 гадини останаха на
местата си,

За кои "прогресивни 4 гадини" говорим?

а републиканците уж загубили заради подкрепа за Тръмп?

Намесата на Tръмп* беше от критично значение за номинацията на 5 кандидати за
сената. Трима се издъниха в щати, в които републиканците иначе можеха да бият. Един
би, а петия е на балотаж и сигурно ще падне през януари. Всъщност до седмица преди
изборите републиканците бяха в подем. После изведнъж Тръмп почна да пуска фитила, че веднаха след изборите ще се кандидатира и привлече ця

лото внимание към себе

си (и своята непопулярност). А той с кандидатурата си се мъчи да изпревари
прокурорите, които май са на прага да му предявят обвинение (но сигурно чакаха да
минат изборите).

*В интерес на истината демократите също пръснаха десетки милиони републиканците
да номинират тези кандидати-откачалки (тръмпови гъзолизци).

Не е ли по-скоро както каза оная от Аризона - прекалено самоуверени
в победата републиканцките избиратели не гласуваха така масово както
трябваше.

Няма логика в това. Ако вярваш, че твоите ще бият обикновено си още по-мотивиран
да гласуваш. Хората ходят на мачовете на побеждаващи отбори.

Хората ходят на мачове на любими или на добри отбори.

Може би подведени от червеноидната преса ;-)
Сенатът ще си остане същият, Представителите ще са в републиканците,
педокрацията почва да къца и с двата крака.

Дори това не е 100% сигурно (24 часа след края на гласуването).

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On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 21:08:02 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Не е ли по-скоро както каза оная от Аризона - прекалено самоуверени
в победата републиканцките избиратели не гласуваха така масово както
трябваше.

Няма логика в това. Ако вярваш, че твоите ще бият обикновено си още по-мотивиран
да гласуваш. Хората ходят на мачовете на побеждаващи от

Toва не е мач. Ако съм сигурен че моите ще бият - може да минат
и без мене ако ме мързи или имам някаква работа или ми е далече..

Както и да е, хората не гласуват за личности а по симпатии и по
идеологически симпатии. Как иначе беше избрат Дементът и Тръмп
преди него според тебе?

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On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 09:33:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 12:38:50 AM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 21:08:02 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 7:15:43 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:47:41 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Специално за Чорби - защо не точно абортите са отговорни за провала
на републиканците вчера.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/11/red-mist/

Дрън-дрън... Как ще ми обясниш "прогресивните" 4 гадини останаха на
местата си,

За кои "прогресивни 4 гадини" говорим?

Александра Кортес, суданката(Ирхан,Ихрам?), мексиканката и още една

Тези ("the squad") са 6, не 4. Всичките представляват избирателни райони, в които демократите имат огромно
мнозинство (минимално +25% демократи). Много ясно, че ще бъдат преизбирани без проблем. Тя и откачалаката
тръмпистка Тейлър-Грийн спечели с огромно мнозинаство в републикански бастион. Между другото, не ми е
известно в the squad да има суданци или мексиканци.

а републиканците уж загубили заради подкрепа за Тръмп?

Намесата на Tръмп* беше от критично значение за номинацията на 5 кандидати за
сената. Трима се издъниха в щати, в които републиканците иначе можеха да бият.

Това е само теоретично. Иначе е ясно че Западът се комуноидизира и явно така
ще е и занапред, в следващите 30-40 години..

В Пенсилвания избранника на Тръмп загуби сенатско място заемано досега от републиканец. Както е написано
в статията, която цитирах, в Ню Хампшър избранника на Тръмп загуби много в същата вечер, в кято стандартен
републиканец губернатор (баща му беше министър в администрацията на Буш-баща) бе преизбран в същия щат с 30% мнозинаство. До Тръмп Аризона б�

�ше солидно републикански щат (за десетилетия демократите нямаха сенатор

избран от щата). Избранника на Тръмп там загуби от не особено популярен демократ.

Не съм наясно как точно Тръмп ги е наложил тия, нали уж става с някакви избори?
Или искаш да кажеш че са елиминирани по начина по който 2016 Сандерс беше елиминиран?

Ако "запада се комуноидизира" защо "фашисти" спечелиха изборите в Италия и Швеция (два пресни случая)?

Правилно си сложил кавичките, а и ще видиш че старите им комуноидни политики ще продъжат.

Тръмпистите са като путинистите - "кой ми сра в гащите?"

А ти може да си вярваш каквото си искаш. То и Тръмп така.

То и ти така.
Надявам се да направят някакво социологическо изследване да видим що така.

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On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 09:33:49 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Ако "запада се комуноидизира" защо "фашисти" спечелиха изборите в Италия
и Швеция (два пресни случая)?

а ти защо питаш, след като такива като теб не правят разлика между
„фашист“ и „комунист“?

колко пъти разни идиоти са натяквали за това?

та въпросът ти е абсолютно леймърски.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:42:01 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Вместо изборите да са референдум на демократическото управление за последните две години
(което щеше да е катастрофално за демократите) демократите го направиха отново рефередум
за Тръмп. Хитро.

При цялата им излагация с Демента сега изведнъж Тръмп бил виновен!?
Според мене повечето не гледат нито Тръмп, нито Демента, а всеки си има някакви
пристрастия които са "непробиваеми". Много малко хора гледат наистина конкретни
политики и повечето не по-далече от собственият си моментален интерес. Затова
пише че за 2/3 от младите жени 1/3 от младите мъже абортът е бил от решаващо
значение при гласуването. Тия идиоти си вкараха автогол с това решение което и
аз не подкрепям.

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On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 13:06:15 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Да съм използвал думата "наложил" в дискусията по-горе? Аз поне не помня да съм използвал подобен израз.
Написах "избранника на Тръмп", "намесата на Tръмп". Тръмп или ги нави да се кандидатират, или избра да ги
подкрепи след както те му цуннаха задника (като изразиха публично мнение, че изборите преди две години били
откраднати от демократите в ущърб на Тръмп). След това участва в техните предизборни митинги (на първичните
избори и покъсно на митинги преди изборите тази седмица). Кампаниите
на много други републиканци, включително много републиканци спечелили във вторник, се дистанцираха от
Тръмп, и го помолиха да не се явява на предизборните им митинги. Трети кандидати, например Кемп в Джорджа,
дори бяха нападнати от Тръмп.

Хубаво, ама това как ще накара някой да гласува за демократ?
И защо при Тръмп ще е отблъсква избирателите а при Чучелото не?

Преди седмица се опита да се подиграе и с Десантис

Eстествено, тоя му е Конкурент и може би ще го измести.

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On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 21:54:18 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 3:13:20 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 13:06:15 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Да съм използвал думата "наложил" в дискусията по-горе? Аз поне не помня да съм използвал подобен израз.
Написах "избранника на Тръмп", "намесата на Tръмп". Тръмп или ги нави да се кандидатират, или избра да ги
подкрепи след както те му цуннаха задника (като изразиха публично мнение, че изборите преди две години били
откраднати от демократите в ущърб на Тръмп). След това участва в техните предизборни митинги (на първичните
избори и покъсно на митинги преди изборите тази седмица). Кампаниите
на много други републиканци, включително много републиканци спечелили във вторник, се дистанцираха от
Тръмп, и го помолиха да не се явява на предизборните им митинги. Трети кандидати, например Кемп в Джорджа,
дори бяха нападнати от Тръмп.

Хубаво, ама това как ще накара някой да гласува за демократ?

Когато избора е между Тръмп (или негов гъзолизец) и демократ голяма част от
независимите избиратели избират демократ. Това е вярно дори за много
републикански избиратели. Ето и доказателството:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-independent-voters-broke-for-democrats-in-the-midterms/ar-AA141KnZ

В оригиналната статия са дадени и конкретните числа:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-independent-voters-broke-for-democrats-in-the-midterms-11668249002

59% от независимите имат негативно мнение за демократите и 60% имат негативно
мнение за републиканците (т.е. в това отношение нямат предпочитание), но
"Is a reason for your vote to support/oppose Trump?" - за 54% от незавасимите "не е
фактор", за 34% "за да гласувам против Тръмп", за 11% "за да гласувам за Тръмп".
Това е разликата между нищожна победа за републиканците (както се очертава)
и резгромителна победа (както много, не точно аз, очакваха). Тръмп е като воденичен
камък около врата на републиканците, факт умело използван от демократите. За трети
пореден път (2018, 2020 и 2022) им носи избиретелен успех въпреки ужасните
резултати от управлението на Байдън (78% от всички избиратели в допитването
по-горе казват, че икономиката е в лошо или недобро положение).

Т.е. "ще е застреляме в коляното" и ще гласуваме против Тръпм?
То убаво ама как не гласуват против Байдън който е не по-малко противен?
И защо не виждам подобен разбор за Байдън, а само за Тръмп?

Моето мение е че народа се повлича по цоциалните раздавания, канцелиране
на дълг, кяр в момента, а за бъдещето ще мислят кагато стане настояще,
щото си мислят че до тогава вече ще са изкласили и няма да им е зор да
си плятят това, което изяждат в момента.

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On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 07:41:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Т.е. "ще е застреляме в коляното" и ще гласуваме против Тръпм?

Защо да се застрелват в коланото? Ако не харесват Тръмп гласуват против канидатите му. Какво толкова не
разбираш? Омразата им към Тръмп е по-силна от омразата им към осирането на Байдън. Докато Тръмп е на
сцената навярно ще е така.

Защото Байдън и педократите съсипаха икономинаката, затова се "застрелват
в коляното", и нас покрай тях. Надеждата е че камарата на представителите
ще е републиканска, да ги спре.
Така ще е и без Тръмп на сцената, това е новата епоха..

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:07:55 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

And across the board, the voters who viewed Trump unfavorably voted in vast margins
for the Democratic candidates.

Tия и без друго щяха да си гласуват за демократите. Плебсът завижда на богатите
и злобно иска да ги обере, завистта е един от основните фактори в полза на
демократите и те здраво я раздухват и използват: "they don't pay their fair share".
И както Тръмп каза: "Защо не промените данъчнит законн тогава? Ами защото вашите
донори ще престанат да ви дават, затова."

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 08:38:02 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 8:54:49 PM UTC-5, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:07:55 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

And across the board, the voters who viewed Trump unfavorably voted in vast margins
for the Democratic candidates.

Tия и без друго щяха да си гласуват за демократите.

Ако са щели да гласуват за демократите как да си обясним факта, че Десантис спечели с близо 20% във Флорида??

Лесно - с това че е Флорида. Ако беше Калифорния щеше да е загубил с толкова.

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 13:53:29 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Тази година републиканците номинираха един заклет тръмпист, който падна с 30%.

Ми номинирали са тиквеник значи. То и Тръмп си е тиквеник, но беше полезен, само
дето на моменти съм се учудвал на акъла му ;-)
Ако републиканците не избутат напред някой друг пак ще гласувам за него.

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