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On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 12:20:10 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

всички, го караха. Аз още не съм.

Естествено! То не ходи по домашни пернати :-)

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 22:20:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:20:11 PM UTC-4, Радостина wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11026577/amp/Covid-Australia- Data-shows-mask-mandates-dont-work-New-Zealand-Singapore-pass- Australia.html?fbclid=IwAR12d8Pj2VsyWi7sF-Q7NdA0UzhmH5Et9ZJ9C8QRy- k_yC1wjhC2FDkXYoU

https://exxpress.at/war-lockdown-ein-fehler-vorzeigeschueler- neuseeland-hat-mehr-covid-tote-denn-je/? utm_source=CLEVERPUSH&utm_medium=Notifications&utm_campaign=cleverpush-1658668733&fbclid=IwAR3ZZglFUNELHVxTjOexKgcbO-

LxYlUz556SjunlHBrvR9ad5t5HvpDPlHY

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/fda-will-not-require-clinical- trial-data-authorize-redesigned-covid-boosters-2022-06-30/? fbclid=IwAR0sdCTzYlGvEp9J_BMZdWX2UQLqzuxyDffyhB4Xd6NbLxIXBbmo4t5XHCs

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna38348? fbclid=IwAR2E2tJ7rj7sTlv6KVjsE2nHXlFMLPiXn8NhgpmlthJWUghtGg32ZqDFpcw

Не мога да намеря статията, която твърди (цитирам по памет), че всички
с две или повече ваксини против ковид никога няма да изработят пълен
имунитет против ковид и производните му, докато неваксинираните ще
могат на го направят.

Мой приятел в Ирландия току що изкара втори ковид. Преди първия не беше
ваксиниран.

Аз очаквано хванах ковид като бях във Франция в средата на юли. Бях си
сложил бустър седмица по-рано. Прекарах го като съвсем лека настинка.
Моят ваксиниран шеф също.

аха, и имаш нахалството да претендираш, че си компетентен по медицинска и
биомедицинска тематика?!

Вярваш на всякакви глупости стига да съвпадат с предразсъдаците ти.

Ваксините (говор за ковид, не ваксини изобщо) според това изследване де
факто са намалили антителата.

Но в неваксинирани България и Русия починалите от делта вълната бяха 5
пъти повече (на глава) от силно ваксинирана Западна Европа. Факт.

аха, а после се засягаш като те нарека некрофил. ами такъв си, факт.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 06:37:34 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:23:00 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 22:20:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:20:11 PM UTC-4, Радостина wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11026577/amp/Covid- Australia-Data-shows-mask-mandates-dont-work-New-Zealand-Singapore-pass-

Australia.html?fbclid=IwAR12d8Pj2VsyWi7sF-Q7NdA0UzhmH5Et9ZJ9C8QRy-
k_yC1wjhC2FDkXYoU

https://exxpress.at/war-lockdown-ein-fehler-vorzeigeschueler-

neuseeland-hat-mehr-covid-tote-denn-je/?

utm_source=CLEVERPUSH&utm_medium=Notifications&utm_campaign=cleverpush-1658668733&fbclid=IwAR3ZZglFUNELHVxTjOexKgcbO-

LxYlUz556SjunlHBrvR9ad5t5HvpDPlHY

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/fda-will-not-require- clinical-trial-data-authorize-redesigned-covid-boosters-2022-06-30/?

fbclid=IwAR0sdCTzYlGvEp9J_BMZdWX2UQLqzuxyDffyhB4Xd6NbLxIXBbmo4t5XHCs

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna38348?

fbclid=IwAR2E2tJ7rj7sTlv6KVjsE2nHXlFMLPiXn8NhgpmlthJWUghtGg32ZqDFpcw

Не мога да намеря статията, която твърди (цитирам по памет), че
всички с две или повече ваксини против ковид никога няма да
изработят пълен имунитет против ковид и производните му, докато
неваксинираните ще могат на го направят.

Мой приятел в Ирландия току що изкара втори ковид. Преди първия не
беше ваксиниран.

Аз очаквано хванах ковид като бях във Франция в средата на юли. Бях
си сложил бустър седмица по-рано. Прекарах го като съвсем лека
настинка. Моят ваксиниран шеф също.

аха, и имаш нахалството да претендираш, че си компетентен по медицинска
и биомедицинска тематика?!

???

ми … настинките от какво се предизвикват 8-)

ако си правеше тестове за настинка, все болен щеше да стоиш.

между другото, как разбра, че си го хванал? с тест или реши, че леката
настинка всъщност е корона вирус?

Вярваш на всякакви глупости стига да съвпадат с предразсъдаците ти.

Ваксините (говор за ковид, не ваксини изобщо) според това изследване
де факто са намалили антителата.

Но в неваксинирани България и Русия починалите от делта вълната бяха
5 пъти повече (на глава) от силно ваксинирана Западна Европа. Факт.

аха, а после се засягаш като те нарека некрофил. ами такъв си, факт.

Идиотски твърдения

ами за идиот какви искаш да бъдат твърденията? пък и фактите отговарят на
твърденията 8-)

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 22:20:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Но в неваксинирани България и Русия...

A в неваксинирана Украйна?

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On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 10:38:34 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 4:14:37 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 06:37:34 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:23:00 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 22:20:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:20:11 PM UTC-4, Радостина wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11026577/amp/Covid-

Australia-Data-shows-mask-mandates-dont-work-New-Zealand-Singapore- pass-Australia.html?fbclid=IwAR12d8Pj2VsyWi7sF-Q7NdA0UzhmH5Et9ZJ9C8QRy-

k_yC1wjhC2FDkXYoU

https://exxpress.at/war-lockdown-ein-fehler-vorzeigeschueler-

neuseeland-hat-mehr-covid-tote-denn-je/?

utm_source=CLEVERPUSH&utm_medium=Notifications&utm_campaign=cleverpush-1658668733&fbclid=IwAR3ZZglFUNELHVxTjOexKgcbO-

LxYlUz556SjunlHBrvR9ad5t5HvpDPlHY

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/fda-will-not-require-

clinical-trial-data-authorize-redesigned-covid-boosters-2022-06-30/?

fbclid=IwAR0sdCTzYlGvEp9J_BMZdWX2UQLqzuxyDffyhB4Xd6NbLxIXBbmo4t5XHCs

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna38348?

fbclid=IwAR2E2tJ7rj7sTlv6KVjsE2nHXlFMLPiXn8NhgpmlthJWUghtGg32ZqDFpcw

Не мога да намеря статията, която твърди (цитирам по памет), че
всички с две или повече ваксини против ковид никога няма да
изработят пълен имунитет против ковид и производните му, докато
неваксинираните ще могат на го направят.

Мой приятел в Ирландия току що изкара втори ковид. Преди първия не
беше ваксиниран.

Аз очаквано хванах ковид като бях във Франция в средата на юли.
Бях си сложил бустър седмица по-рано. Прекарах го като съвсем лека
настинка. Моят ваксиниран шеф също.

аха, и имаш нахалството да претендираш, че си компетентен по
медицинска и биомедицинска тематика?!

???

ми … настинките от какво се предизвикват 8-)

От вируси. И?

ми нищо, просто потвърждаваш думите ми.

ако си правеше тестове за настинка, все болен щеше да стоиш.

Глупости.

ето поредното доказателство за твоята некомпетентност 8-)

между другото, как разбра, че си го хванал? с тест или реши, че леката
настинка всъщност е корона вирус?

С антигенен тест (всъщност тестОВЕ понеже проверявах всеки ден).

ахааа, добре. тестове значи. всеки ден. нещо за ваксините да кажеш?
всъщност, по-добре не казвай нищо.

под леглото проверяваш ли?

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 18:18:04 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Дори отидоха болни на концерта на Ил Воло.

Тия гадни крави са за бой...и глоба от 3000 лева.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 07:01:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

T.e. от ваксината никакъв ефект

Защо да няма? Нито съм го карал тежко, нито съм умрял от него.

ха-ха, и това казано от човек с претенции, че се занимава с наука.

същото и за некрофилските писаници по-долу.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 07:02:50 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 1:55:59 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

...

ето поредното доказателство за твоята некомпетентност 8-)

между другото, как разбра, че си го хванал? с тест или реши, че
леката настинка всъщност е корона вирус?

С антигенен тест (всъщност тестОВЕ понеже проверявах всеки ден).

ахааа, добре. тестове значи. всеки ден. нещо за ваксините да кажеш?

Какво да кажа за ваксините? Работят.

нали ти казах, че е по-добре нищо да не казваш.

и като работят ваксините, защо беше болен?

и да беше се научил да цитираш коректно.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 11:01:59 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 1:23:14 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 07:02:50 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 1:55:59 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

...

ето поредното доказателство за твоята некомпетентност 8-)

между другото, как разбра, че си го хванал? с тест или реши, че
леката настинка всъщност е корона вирус?

С антигенен тест (всъщност тестОВЕ понеже проверявах всеки ден).

ахааа, добре. тестове значи. всеки ден. нещо за ваксините да кажеш?

Какво да кажа за ваксините? Работят.

нали ти казах, че е по-добре нищо да не казваш.

и като работят ваксините, защо беше болен?

Идиот, я и аз да те попитам нещо. Ваксината БЦЖ, която обсъждахме тук
преди две години, и с която българите се гордееха, ваксина ли е или не?

идиотът си ти, при това с претенции.

Знаеш ли как работи и какъв е ефекта от нея (срещу туберкулоза, не срещу
ковид)?

и като идиот, ще си повторя въпроса -- защо като си ваксиниран, беше
болен?

аз като съм ваксиниран с бцж да съм се разболявал някога от туберкулоза? и
недей да спекулираш, че е възможно да не съм се срещал с бацила.

и следващият път ме слушай, като ти кажа, че е по-добре да мълчиш.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 11:02:15 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 1:36:04 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 07:01:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

T.e. от ваксината никакъв ефект

Защо да няма? Нито съм го карал тежко, нито съм умрял от него.

ха-ха, и това казано от човек с претенции, че се занимава с наука.

Да.

ами хвърли си дипломата и бягай да миеш улици някъде.

твърдение като горното може да каже ирландския ти приятел, дето изкарал за
първи път короната преди да се ваксинира, а след ваксината я е повторил.
той има какво да сравнява, ти нямаш.

аз също мога да кажа, че съм изкарал болестта леко и не съм умрял от нея.
но за разлика от теб, аз нямам приети три дози ваксина. три дози! има ли
нещо между ушите ти? или продължава да дрънчи на кухо?

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 17:23:11 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

и като работят ваксините, защо беше болен?

Я па ти!?

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 21:05:36 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 17:23:11 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

и като работят ваксините, защо беше болен?

Я па ти!?

какво аз?

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:01:25 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

ти колко човека знаеш, които са ваксинирани и въпреки това са карали туберкулоза?

Със сигурност една, и накрая умря от нея.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:15:56 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Друго интересно ми казаха наскоро.

To малкоумниците какво ли не си казвате, не само наскоро...

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 12:24:38 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:27:13 AM UTC-4, Радостина wrote:

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 1:10:46 PM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 11:02:15 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 1:36:04 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 07:01:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

T.e. от ваксината никакъв ефект

Защо да няма? Нито съм го карал тежко, нито съм умрял от него.

ха-ха, и това казано от човек с претенции, че се занимава с наука.

Да.

ами хвърли си дипломата и бягай да миеш улици някъде.

твърдение като горното може да каже ирландския ти приятел, дето
изкарал за първи път короната преди да се ваксинира, а след ваксината
я е повторил. той има какво да сравнява, ти нямаш.

аз също мога да кажа, че съм изкарал болестта леко и не съм умрял от
нея.

но за разлика от теб, аз нямам приети три дози ваксина. три дози! има
ли нещо между ушите ти? или продължава да дрънчи на кухо?

Четири. Той призна че си е сложил четвърта преди да пътува :-)
Честно и аз не проумявам. И някои хора ще продължат да си ги бият на 6
месеца и да си внушават че работят.

Между другото това с ирландския приятел е много смешно.
Тотално доказва, че това макар и от друга група, си е жив грип :-).

"Гирп", от който за две години само в България починаха над 70,000 души.

La chaîne de télévision australienne largue des bombes de vérité sur les décès de Covid.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1557811316949123073

друга причина ти е посочила радост.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 14:05:43 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:49:11 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 12:24:38 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:27:13 AM UTC-4, Радостина wrote:

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 1:10:46 PM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 11:02:15 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 1:36:04 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 07:01:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

T.e. от ваксината никакъв ефект

Защо да няма? Нито съм го карал тежко, нито съм умрял от
него.

ха-ха, и това казано от човек с претенции, че се занимава с
наука.

Да.

ами хвърли си дипломата и бягай да миеш улици някъде.

твърдение като горното може да каже ирландския ти приятел, дето
изкарал за първи път короната преди да се ваксинира, а след
ваксината я е повторил. той има какво да сравнява, ти нямаш.

аз също мога да кажа, че съм изкарал болестта леко и не съм умрял
от нея.

но за разлика от теб, аз нямам приети три дози ваксина. три дози!
има ли нещо между ушите ти? или продължава да дрънчи на кухо?

Четири. Той призна че си е сложил четвърта преди да пътува :-)
Честно и аз не проумявам. И някои хора ще продължат да си ги бият на
6 месеца и да си внушават че работят.

Между другото това с ирландския приятел е много смешно.
Тотално доказва, че това макар и от друга група, си е жив грип :-).

"Гирп", от който за две години само в България починаха над 70,000
души.

La chaîne de télévision australienne largue des bombes de vérité sur
les décès de Covid.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1557811316949123073

A колко хора умират "само" от грип?!? От девет кладенци вода носите за
да отречете очевидното.

не аз, глупако, австралийци го правят,

аз само ти го показвам в опит да те „излекувам“ от некрофилията ти.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 23:29:56 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 11:56:12 AM UTC-7, chorbalan wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:01:25 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

ти колко човека знаеш, които са ваксинирани и въпреки това са карали туберкулоза?

Със сигурност една, и накрая умря от нея.

и коя е тя, къде, на колко години, преди колко време.

Роднина, преди 4-5-6 години, 67 годишна, здрава от друго.

Винаги има breakthrough cases.

По твоя акъл това значи че ваксините не работят..

Аз карах шарка на 19, при това никой край мен не беше болен.
Но тук е масово.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 06:56:13 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Трънки, умряха поради ред други причини.

По кои прични, и защо в предишни години не умираха в подобни бройки от
тях?

дебил, ето ти един съвсем пресен случай -- на моя позната, синът и снахата
минаха през ковид преди около 4 седмици (не помня точно, а и не заслужаваш
да го уточнявам).

преди два-три дена започва кашлица. личният доктор не дава направление,
защото е сигурен 99%, че е ковид. направеният тест е отрицателен. дават и
се два комплекта лекарства - със ковид или без ковид.

а девойката получава отказ да и бъде направена рентгенография, защото
имала отрицателен тест за корона вирус.

имаш претенции да си компетентен в медицинските въпроси, сега е моментът
да я покажеш -- защо отказът е идиотски и некомпетентен, можеш ли да се
аргументираш?

ето за това умират хората, особено ако са с инфаркт или инсулт - вместо да
вземат мерки за спасяването им, те им правят тестове за коронавирус.

и като се усложнят през това време и вземат, че умрат, се класифицират за
статистиката като починали с усложнения от ковид. разбра ли сега защо си
некрофил?

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:43:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 2:48:17 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 06:56:13 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Трънки, умряха поради ред други причини. >>

По кои прични, и защо в предишни години не умираха в подобни бройки от
тях?

дебил, ето ти един съвсем пресен случай -- на моя позната, синът и снахата
минаха през ковид преди около 4 седмици (не помня точно, а и не заслужаваш
да го уточнявам).

преди два-три дена започва кашлица. личният доктор не дава направление,
защото е сигурен 99%, че е ковид. направеният тест е отрицателен. дават и
се два комплекта лекарства - със ковид или без ковид.

а девойката получава отказ да и бъде направена рентгенография, защото
имала отрицателен тест за корона вирус.

имаш претенции да си компетентен в медицинските въпроси, сега е моментът
да я покажеш -- защо отказът е идиотски и некомпетентен, можеш ли да се
аргументираш?

ето за това умират хората, особено ако са с инфаркт или инсулт - вместо да
вземат мерки за спасяването им, те им правят тестове за коронавирус.

и като се усложнят през това време и вземат, че умрат, се класифицират за
статистиката като починали с усложнения от ковид.

Koлко ти е IQ-то? Аз не говоря как са ги класифицирали в статистиката, а за това, че от началото на ковид пандемията, в България са починали 73,

000 повече

хора от обичайното, бройка, която хора като теб и Нерадост не могат да обяснят. Другото, което не могат да обяснят, е защо след въвеждането н

а ваксините,

миналата година, се отвори толкова голяма дупка между "excess deaths" в България (и Русия) от една страна и западна Европа от друга.

Той даде добро обяснение с което може да оправдае една част от тези жертви,
щото наистина някой болни не получиха лечение по време на карантината и това
спомогна да се споминат. Такива обаче са доста малка част, а той се опитва
да ги изкара много голяма.

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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:43:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 2:48:17 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 06:56:13 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Трънки, умряха поради ред други причини.

По кои прични, и защо в предишни години не умираха в подобни бройки
от тях?

дебил, ето ти един съвсем пресен случай -- на моя позната, синът и
снахата минаха през ковид преди около 4 седмици (не помня точно, а и не
заслужаваш да го уточнявам).

преди два-три дена започва кашлица. личният доктор не дава направление,
защото е сигурен 99%, че е ковид. направеният тест е отрицателен. дават
и се два комплекта лекарства - със ковид или без ковид.

а девойката получава отказ да и бъде направена рентгенография, защото
имала отрицателен тест за корона вирус.

имаш претенции да си компетентен в медицинските въпроси, сега е
моментът да я покажеш -- защо отказът е идиотски и некомпетентен, можеш
ли да се аргументираш?

ето за това умират хората, особено ако са с инфаркт или инсулт - вместо
да вземат мерки за спасяването им, те им правят тестове за коронавирус.

и като се усложнят през това време и вземат, че умрат, се класифицират
за статистиката като починали с усложнения от ковид.

Koлко ти е IQ-то? Аз не говоря как са ги класифицирали в статистиката, а
за това, че от началото на ковид пандемията, в България са починали
73,000 повече хора от обичайното, бройка, която хора като теб и Нерадост
не могат да обяснят. Другото, което не могат да обяснят, е защо след
въвеждането на ваксините, миналата година, се отвори толкова голяма
дупка между "excess deaths" в България (и Русия) от една страна и
западна Европа от друга.

колкото и да ми е ниско IQ-то, все е по-високо от твоето. факт.

за класифицирането ли намери да се хванеш, вместо за отказа от лечение,
който съм описвал. отказ, а не нещо друго. да ти го напиша буква по буква?

и не знам дали се усети как сам потвърди собствената си некомпетентност в
области, за които имаш претенции, че си компетентен.

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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 22:07:28 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:43:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 2:48:17 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 06:56:13 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Трънки, умряха поради ред други причини.

По кои прични, и защо в предишни години не умираха в подобни бройки
от тях?

дебил, ето ти един съвсем пресен случай -- на моя позната, синът и
снахата минаха през ковид преди около 4 седмици (не помня точно, а и
не заслужаваш да го уточнявам).

преди два-три дена започва кашлица. личният доктор не дава
направление, защото е сигурен 99%, че е ковид. направеният тест е
отрицателен. дават и се два комплекта лекарства - със ковид или без
ковид.

а девойката получава отказ да и бъде направена рентгенография, защото
имала отрицателен тест за корона вирус.

имаш претенции да си компетентен в медицинските въпроси, сега е
моментът да я покажеш -- защо отказът е идиотски и некомпетентен,
можеш ли да се аргументираш?

ето за това умират хората, особено ако са с инфаркт или инсулт -
вместо да вземат мерки за спасяването им, те им правят тестове за
коронавирус.

и като се усложнят през това време и вземат, че умрат, се класифицират
за статистиката като починали с усложнения от ковид.

Koлко ти е IQ-то? Аз не говоря как са ги класифицирали в статистиката,
а за това, че от началото на ковид пандемията, в България са починали
73,000 повече хора от обичайното, бройка, която хора като теб и
Нерадост не могат да обяснят. Другото, което не могат да обяснят, е
защо след въвеждането на ваксините,
миналата година, се отвори толкова голяма дупка между "excess deaths" в
България (и Русия) от една страна и западна Европа от друга.

Той даде добро обяснение с което може да оправдае една част от тези
жертви, щото наистина някой болни не получиха лечение по време на
карантината и това спомогна да се споминат. Такива обаче са доста малка
част, а той се опитва да ги изкара много голяма.

нищо не се опитвам, просто му обяснявам на дебила една от причините.

сложи и високата степен на хронични заболявания у нас, немарливата
профилактика, която се провежда (ако изобщо се провежда), нехайството към
собственото здраве (което е причина пък за високата степен на хронични
заболявания), некомпетентността на част от лекарите и ще видиш, че не
ниското число на ваксинираните у нас са основната причина за увеличените
смъртни случаи.

а, да не забравим все пак и изкривената статистика, на която ивайло
коленопреклонно вярва.

на мен, честно казано, ми писна от некрофилските му коментари по повод
починалите у нас..

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On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:48:09 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

че не ниското число на ваксинираните у нас са основната
причина за увеличените смъртни случаи.

Стига глупости...

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On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 06:04:22 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:48:09 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

че не ниското число на ваксинираните у нас са основната причина за
увеличените смъртни случаи.

Стига глупости...

що ми слагаш тогава думи, които не съм изричал?!

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 09:15:02 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 6:07:29 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:43:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 2:48:17 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 06:56:13 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Трънки, умряха поради ред други причини.

По кои прични, и защо в предишни години не умираха в подобни
бройки от тях?

дебил, ето ти един съвсем пресен случай -- на моя позната, синът и
снахата минаха през ковид преди около 4 седмици (не помня точно, а и
не заслужаваш да го уточнявам).

преди два-три дена започва кашлица. личният доктор не дава
направление, защото е сигурен 99%, че е ковид. направеният тест е
отрицателен. дават и се два комплекта лекарства - със ковид или без
ковид.

а девойката получава отказ да и бъде направена рентгенография,
защото имала отрицателен тест за корона вирус.

имаш претенции да си компетентен в медицинските въпроси, сега е
моментът да я покажеш -- защо отказът е идиотски и некомпетентен,
можеш ли да се аргументираш?

ето за това умират хората, особено ако са с инфаркт или инсулт -
вместо да вземат мерки за спасяването им, те им правят тестове за
коронавирус.

и като се усложнят през това време и вземат, че умрат, се
класифицират за статистиката като починали с усложнения от ковид.

Koлко ти е IQ-то? Аз не говоря как са ги класифицирали в
статистиката, а за това, че от началото на ковид пандемията, в
България са починали 73,000 повече хора от обичайното, бройка, която
хора като теб и Нерадост не могат да обяснят. Другото, което не могат
да обяснят, е защо след въвеждането на ваксините,
миналата година, се отвори толкова голяма дупка между "excess deaths"
в България (и Русия) от една страна и западна Европа от друга.

Той даде добро обяснение с което може да оправдае една част от тези
жертви, щото наистина някой болни не получиха лечение по време на
карантината и това спомогна да се споминат. Такива обаче са доста малка
част, а той се опитва да ги изкара много голяма.

Нищо подобно не е обяснил. Ако считаш, че е обяснение как то обяснява
разминаването, което се получи между България от една страна и
Португалия от друга миналата година? Нима там нямаше вънла на заразени
(не по-малка от българската)?

така е, обяснявам некрофилията ти.

за мен няма ясен и категоричен начин, п който да разделиш тези excess
deaths по причини. даже и към числата, които каза радост, се отнасям
скептично.

точно поради това не ги и коментирам и съм го казал още преди година или
там някъде.

оставам и на мнението си за твоята компетентност.

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 09:15:02 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

...което се получи между България от една страна и Португалия ...

щото наистина някой болни не получиха лечение по време на карантината
и това спомогна да се споминат.

Налага ли се да ти обяснявам разликата между двете страни?
А и без това става дума за малка бройка от всичките, така че е излишно
да се разпростираме. Балканските глупаци са си такива, на ваксини не
вярват, щото някой щял да ги чипира, да ги отрови или да спечели от тях..

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 14:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:01:14 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 09:15:02 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 6:07:29 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:43:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 2:48:17 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 06:56:13 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Трънки, умряха поради ред други причини.

По кои прични, и защо в предишни години не умираха в подобни
бройки от тях?

дебил, ето ти един съвсем пресен случай -- на моя позната, синът
и снахата минаха през ковид преди около 4 седмици (не помня
точно, а и не заслужаваш да го уточнявам).

преди два-три дена започва кашлица. личният доктор не дава
направление, защото е сигурен 99%, че е ковид. направеният тест е
отрицателен. дават и се два комплекта лекарства - със ковид или
без ковид.

а девойката получава отказ да и бъде направена рентгенография,
защото имала отрицателен тест за корона вирус.

имаш претенции да си компетентен в медицинските въпроси, сега е
моментът да я покажеш -- защо отказът е идиотски и некомпетентен,
можеш ли да се аргументираш?

ето за това умират хората, особено ако са с инфаркт или инсулт -
вместо да вземат мерки за спасяването им, те им правят тестове за
коронавирус.

и като се усложнят през това време и вземат, че умрат, се
класифицират за статистиката като починали с усложнения от ковид.

Koлко ти е IQ-то? Аз не говоря как са ги класифицирали в
статистиката, а за това, че от началото на ковид пандемията, в
България са починали 73,000 повече хора от обичайното, бройка,
която хора като теб и Нерадост не могат да обяснят. Другото, което
не могат да обяснят, е защо след въвеждането на ваксините,
миналата година, се отвори толкова голяма дупка между "excess
deaths"
в България (и Русия) от една страна и западна Европа от друга.

Той даде добро обяснение с което може да оправдае една част от тези
жертви, щото наистина някой болни не получиха лечение по време на
карантината и това спомогна да се споминат. Такива обаче са доста
малка част, а той се опитва да ги изкара много голяма.

Нищо подобно не е обяснил. Ако считаш, че е обяснение как то обяснява
разминаването, което се получи между България от една страна и
Португалия от друга миналата година? Нима там нямаше вънла на
заразени (не по-малка от българската)?

така е, обяснявам некрофилията ти.

за мен няма ясен и категоричен начин, п който да разделиш тези excess
deaths по причини. даже и към числата, които каза радост, се отнасям
скептично.

точно поради това не ги и коментирам и съм го казал още преди година
или там някъде.

оставам и на мнението си за твоята компетентност.

Данните съм ги събрала от няколко страни, които имат изнесени данни за
excess deaths.

joy, не се съмнявам в теб, просто съм скептичен към данните. както казах
вече, не виждам ясен и безспорен начин да се категоризират тези
допълнителни смъртни случаи по причини, за това мисля, че обсъждането им е
чиста спекулация и араламбене.

Във всички тях водещи бяха сърдечните заболявания. По принцип от ковид
не се умира, умира се от различни усложнения.

ами преди две години някъде, един български доктор (май се казваше
симидчиев) беше казал същото -- че ковид трябва да се разглежда като
сърдечно-съдово заболяване и да се прилага съответна терапия.

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On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 20:38:43 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

1. България има недостиг на лекари

И този недостиг се е появил ВНЕЗАПНО във втората половина на 2021,
докато в Португалия, също така внезапно, са паднали хиляди лекари от
Луната?

2. Не им бе оказана своевременна помощ 3. Леченията, операциите на
много хора бяха отменени 4. България е със астаряло население 5. Не
на последно място статистиките са фалшиви

Т.е. НЯМАШ и един логичен и смислен отговор на моя въпрос.

Нали ти казх, циклиш като латерна и не чуваш какво ти казвам. )

изненадана ли си?

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 06:34:09 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Аргументите ти са на ниво "Тръмп" - "кагато фактите не ми харесват
аз си измислям мои".

Айде глупости сега - кой политик не прави така?

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:17:04 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 12:53:40 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 06:34:09 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Аргументите ти са на ниво "Тръмп" - "кагато фактите не ми харесват
аз си измислям мои".

Айде глупости сега - кой политик не прави така?

Това е така. Просто Тръмп е особено очевиден пример.

Очевидното при него е смешният - и понякога нелеп - начин по който
го прави но по нахалство не може да се сравни с повечето политици;
виж например т.н. inflation reduction act oт напоследък.

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* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 13:47:51 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 2:35:29 PM UTC-4, Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 9:46:21 PM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 14:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Данните съм ги събрала от няколко страни, които имат изнесени данни
за excess deaths.

joy, не се съмнявам в теб, просто съм скептичен към данните. както
казах вече, не виждам ясен и безспорен начин да се категоризират тези
допълнителни смъртни случаи по причини, за това мисля, че обсъждането
им е чиста спекулация и араламбене.

Те всички данни за ковид са спекулация. След като видях глупостите в
някои статистики, вече грам не им вярвам. Нямаме начин да проверим дали
наситина толкова са починали,

Какво означава това?!? Данните за броя на смъртните актове в България са
фалшиви?? Данните за броя на смъртните актове в Португалия са фалшиви??
Какви са тези глупости??

означава да спреш да се правиш на идиот. не че не ти отива и ти идва
отвътре, но вече става досадно на моменти.

аз не виждам някой да оспорва броя на смъртните актове. оспорват се други
неща.

после защо съм ти викал некрофил. но е истина, че трябва да ти викам
лицемерен некрофил.

от какво и тн. Но просто цитирах статистика изнесена от някои страни,
за целия свят не можах да намеря.

Във всички тях водещи бяха сърдечните заболявания. По принцип от
ковид не се умира, умира се от различни усложнения.

ами преди две години някъде, един български доктор (май се казваше
симидчиев) беше казал същото -- че ковид трябва да се разглежда като
сърдечно-съдово заболяване и да се прилага съответна терапия.

Не зная. За мен продължава да е загадка защо млади хора загиваха, Камен
Чанев примерно,

А уж си математичка...

а 99-годишни оздравяваха. Няма да си променя мнението, че това е вид
биологично оръжие,

Със сигурност унищожи и малкото мозък в главите на хора като теб.

значи ти си късметлия.

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On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 12:15:19 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

означава да спреш да се правиш на идиот. не че не ти отива и ти идва
отвътре, но вече става досадно на моменти.

аз не виждам някой да оспорва броя на смъртните актове. оспорват се
други неща.

A Нерадост какво прави според теб с твърдението " След като видях
глупостите в някои статистики, вече грам не им вярвам. Нямаме начин да
проверим дали наситина толкова са починали"???

ами проверява те дали внимаваш 8-)

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