• Re: =?UTF-8?B?0KDRg9GB0LrQuCDRgdCy0Y/Rgg==?=

    From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu May 5 18:08:40 2022
    On Thu, 5 May 2022 10:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "Всички тези противници на буквата Z трябва да знаят, че вече не могат
    да разчитат на пощада. Говорим вече за концлагери, превъзпитание,
    стерилизация. Нещата са много сериозни."

    А шефката на РТ Маргарита Симонян "в политическо тв шоу ентусиазирано
    заяви, че е крайно време да се приключва с тая свобода на словото. Било
    грешка толкова време Руската федерация да се води по акъла на Запада,
    глупостите със свободата на словото трябва да се изчистят от
    конституцията, защото пречат. Цензурата е хубаво нешо, вижте например
    Китай, даде положителен пример Симонян, която е един от генералите в
    информационната война."

    https://segabg.com/hot/category-then/fashizmut-e-banalizirane-na-zloto

    ехх, тази обсесия.

    няма ли най-после да вземеш мерки?

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 7 05:48:25 2022
    On Fri, 6 May 2022 18:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 11:08:42 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

    On Thu, 5 May 2022 10:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    "Всички тези противници на буквата Z трябва да знаят, че вече не
    могат да разчитат на пощада. Говорим вече за концлагери,
    превъзпитание, стерилизация. Нещата са много сериозни."

    А шефката на РТ Маргарита Симонян "в политическо тв шоу ентусиазирано
    заяви, че е крайно време да се приключва с тая свобода на словото.
    Било грешка толкова време Руската федерация да се води по акъла на
    Запада, глупостите със свободата на словото трябва да се изчистят от
    конституцията, защото пречат. Цензурата е хубаво нешо, вижте например
    Китай, даде положителен пример Симонян, която е един от генералите в
    информационната война."

    https://segabg.com/hot/category-then/fashizmut-e-banalizirane-na-
    zloto

    ехх, тази обсесия.

    няма ли най-после да вземеш мерки?

    Не, по-зле става.

    май си права.

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  • From Dimitar Gueorguiev@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 7 04:44:50 2022
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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 29 08:29:36 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Fri Jul 29 17:40:42 2022
    On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:29:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/29/video-appears-to-show-russian-soldier-castrating-ukrainian-prisoner

    Няма съмнения, че Русия ще започне разследване на случая, ведна след
    като приключат с разследването на клането в Еленовка.

    Колкото Украйна разследва закованият на порта руснак и подобни...
    Такива неща би трябвало да се наказват чрез разстрел, ама едва ли..

    Поне този път theguardian изтъкват че "the Guardian has been unable to
    independently verify the authenticity of the footage" което показва че
    вече са се може би загрижили за репутацията си, която беше съвсем
    подкопана през последните години..

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Fri Jul 29 20:09:39 2022
    On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:29:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/29/video-appears-to-show-
    russian-soldier-castrating-ukrainian-prisoner

    Няма съмнения, че Русия ще започне разследване на случая, ведна след
    като приключат с разследването на клането в Еленовка.

    какво клане в еленовка?

    нещо като независим и достоверен източник можеш ли да посочиш за това
    видео? защото репутацията на theguardian като такъв е отвъд абсолютната
    нула.

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to chorbalan on Fri Jul 29 20:23:13 2022
    On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 17:40:42 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:29:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/29/video-appears-to-show- russian-soldier-castrating-ukrainian-prisoner

    Няма съмнения, че Русия ще започне разследване на случая, ведна след
    като приключат с разследването на клането в Еленовка.

    Колкото Украйна разследва закованият на порта руснак и подобни... Такива
    неща би трябвало да се наказват чрез разстрел, ама едва ли..

    ---8<---
    Украинските силови ведомства настояват ООН и "Червеният кръст" веднага да
    реагират на терористичния акт в Еленовка, в който загинаха 50 души.

    След днешния терористичен акт в колонията се изисква от гарантите на
    сигурността на военопленниците да изпратят инспекция в Еленовка заедно с
    украински представители.

    https://www.segabg.com/hot/category-the-war/ukrayna-obvini-chvk-vagner-za- smurtta-na-53-ma-plennici-azov

    ---8>---

    този верно е на някаква твърд дрога, шизофренията яко го гони. не само
    него, а и тези около него. а обсебения кълве ли, кълве на гол бастун.

    Поне този път theguardian изтъкват че "the Guardian has been unable to
    independently verify the authenticity of the footage" което показва че
    вече са се може би загрижили за репутацията си, която беше съвсем
    подкопана през последните години..

    ;)

    да не се окаже, че жертвата на видеото е руски военнопленник? че нали
    някакъв украинец призоваваше именно към това -- кастрация на руските
    военнопленници? и за това the guardian са неспособни да потвърдят
    автентичността на записа 8-)

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 30 16:52:57 2022
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Sun Jul 31 19:20:43 2022
    On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:52:57 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 10:40:46 AM UTC-7, chorbalan wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:29:36 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/29/video-appears-to-show-russian-soldier-castrating-ukrainian-prisoner

    Няма съмнения, че Русия ще започне разследване на случая, ведна след
    като приключат с разследването на клането в Еленовка.
    Колкото Украйна разследва закованият на порта руснак и подобни...

    "the government in Kyiv said they were taking the allegations of mistreatment “very seriously” and
    that there would be an immediate investigation"

    Казало. Е, и?


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/ukraine-government-investigates-video-alleged-torture-russian-prisoners-of-war

    Дали ще чуем подобно нещо от руските власти, как мислиш?

    Не мисля. Днеска поканиха делегация/комисия на ООН да провери.

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 31 22:23:52 2022
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Mon Aug 1 06:18:31 2022
    On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 22:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:20:47 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

    ...
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/ukraine-government- investigates-video-alleged-torture-russian-prisoners-of-war

    Дали ще чуем подобно нещо от руските власти, как мислиш?
    Не мисля. Днеска поканиха делегация/комисия на ООН да провери.

    А дали ще ги пуснат да отидат на място в идните 3-4 дена (ако изобщо)?

    а дали ще дойдат в идните 3-4 дена?

    и стига толкова. взимай си хапчетата и повече не се обаждай по повод
    русия.

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    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 3 10:22:58 2022
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Wed Aug 3 17:49:28 2022
    On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 10:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:18:33 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 22:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:20:47 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

    ...

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/ukraine-government-
    investigates-video-alleged-torture-russian-prisoners-of-war

    Дали ще чуем подобно нещо от руските власти, как мислиш?
    Не мисля. Днеска поканиха делегация/комисия на ООН да провери.

    А дали ще ги пуснат да отидат на място в идните 3-4 дена (ако
    изобщо)?

    а дали ще дойдат в идните 3-4 дена?

    Както вече казах, едва ли ще ги пуснат.

    "So far the Kremlin has refused to give access to the site to the Red
    Cross and UN"

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/03/blast-that-killed-ukraine-
    pows-was-kremlin-operation-kyiv-claims

    а те дали са отишли?

    и какво казват експертите от bellingcat?


    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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