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On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 19:21:08 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"Kаква е връзката между отричането на Ковид и ваксините и
защитаването на руската агресия в Украйна?"

"Голяма част от хората, които смятат, че има някаква конспирация,
свързана с коронавируса и ваксините, са симпатизанти на партия
"Възраждане"."

https://www.dnevnik.bg/sviat/voinata_v_ukraina/2022/04/21/4339021_edin_ot_nai-populiarnite_vloguri_e_rupor_na_ruska/

Еврогейската пропаганда свързва в едно всичко което не е изгодно:
'Борци срещу ваксините, "джендърите", а сега и "нацистите в Украйна"'

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On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 18:35:58 -0700 (PDT), Dimitar Gueorguiev wrote:

Путинофилите

Съдейки по коментарите във вестниците по отношение на войната голяма
част от българите не са путинофили или русофили но са украинофоби,
което за мене е много изненадващо.

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On 24.4.2022 г. 5:21, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"Kаква е връзката между отричането на Ковид и ваксините и
защитаването на руската агресия в Украйна?"

"Голяма част от хората, които смятат, че има някаква конспирация,
свързана с коронавируса и ваксините, са симпатизанти на партия
"Възраждане"."

https://www.dnevnik.bg/sviat/voinata_v_ukraina/2022/04/21/4339021_edin_ot_nai-populiarnite_vloguri_e_rupor_na_ruska/

Дневник е твърде пристрастна медия и публикациите там не могат да се
приемат за обективни.

--
_____
НК

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On 25.4.2022 г. 21:04, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 12:20:49 PM UTC-4, N Kostoff wrote:

On 24.4.2022 г. 5:21, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

"Kаква е връзката между отричането на Ковид и ваксините и
защитаването на руската агресия в Украйна?"

"Голяма част от хората, които смятат, че има някаква конспирация,
свързана с коронавируса и ваксините, са симпатизанти на партия
"Възраждане"."

https://www.dnevnik.bg/sviat/voinata_v_ukraina/2022/04/21/4339021_edin_ot_nai-populiarnite_vloguri_e_rupor_na_ruska/

Дневник е твърде пристрастна медия и публикациите там не могат да се
приемат за обективни.

В конкретния случай говорим за мнение. То по дефиниция не може да бъде "обективно".
Мислиш ли обаче, че въпросното мнение е далеч от истината?

Не е мнение, а агресивен опит за делегитимиране на определени медиатори.
В много отношения е неистина - напр идеята, че неутралитетът е заставане
на страна на Русия.


--
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НК

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On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 08:56:58 +0300, N Kostoff wrote:

В много отношения е неистина - напр идеята, че неутралитетът
е заставане на страна на Русия.

Моралното издудване е от години вече modus operandi и в Америка,
а при лесборастната идеология често прераства и в насилие чрез съда.

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:09:45 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 7:19:20 PM UTC-7, chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 18:35:58 -0700 (PDT), Dimitar Gueorguiev wrote:

Путинофилите

Съдейки по коментарите във вестниците по отношение на войната голяма
част от българите не са путинофили или русофили но са украинофоби,
което за мене е много изненадващо.

защо да е изненадващо, за тях всичко безплатно, 5звездни хотели, а бг
пенсионери броят стотинки, и за недоносени бебета се събират капачки....

това не (ме) определя като украинофоб.

но ивайло надали ще го разбере :)

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:48:20 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Между другото защо, според теб, жужето от Кремъл се среща с хора на
десет метрова маса? Защото споделя твоето безгрижие за ковид? Сравни го
с поведението на джуджето от Киев.

баси, до там ли изпаднахте?!

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:40:14 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Така че неутралитетът всъщност се
оказва най-угоден за управляващите в Москва.

Всъщност още по-полезен щеше да е за България.

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 1:17:00 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:40:14 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Така че неутралитетът всъщност се
оказва най-угоден за управляващите в Москва.

Всъщност още по-полезен щеше да е за България.

Как точно? Като докаже категорично, че България е руски троянски кон в ЕС и НАТО?

Глупости, Ивайло. Русия е важен търговски и енергиен партньор и България
няма интерес да си разваля отношенията с нея. Както и Запада не си развали
отношенията със САЩ заради българските визи, а бяха обещали.

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:16:27 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Аналогията с визите е абсурдна именно защото за колективния
ЕС България е нищо сравнена със САЩ.

Колективният ЕС е голяма работа за САЩ, ама ЕС егоистично не
поиска да си мръдне пръста, а щеше на стане. Но сега настояват
за подкрепа, че и нахално натискат за РСМто.

В сегашната ситуация дори Орбан не смее много да мърда.

Точно де, аз от кога това казвам -
Давайте като Орбан,
за да няма .бан

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On 29.4.2022 г. 20:56, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 1:17:00 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:40:14 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Така че неутралитетът всъщност се
оказва най-угоден за управляващите в Москва.

Всъщност още по-полезен щеше да е за България.

Как точно? Като докаже категорично, че България е руски троянски кон в ЕС и НАТО?

Това е тъпо изказване.

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On 29.4.2022 г. 18:40, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Прочетох пак цялата статия. "Неутралитетът" се споменава само веднъж в следния абзац:
"В момента позицията, която очевидно тези хора се опитват да наложат, е поддържането на неутралитет към
руската агресия в Украйна. Напълно ясно е, че България, като член на НАТО И ЕС, няма как да застане на
страната на Кремъл. Така че неутралитетът всъщност се оказва най-угоден за управляващите в Москва."

Ти искаш да ни кажеш, че си несъгласен с него??? Според мен извън всякакво съмнение е, "че България,
като член на НАТО И ЕС, няма как да застане на страната на Кремъл. Така че неутралитетът всъщност се
оказва най-угоден за управляващите в Москва." Не съм сигурен по какъв начим можеш да оспориш
толкова очевидно мнение.

Това "мнение" е просто друг изказ на принципа "който не е с нас е против
нас>



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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:13:37 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

. Аз лично чх историята много пъти от мои познати в БГ,

Намерила кого да слуша!? Па тия в Бг-то са по-залупени и от тебе!

Все още 8% от изследваните са болни, което си е доста.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Тук вижам елемент на "гузен негонен бяга".

От какво точно е гузен?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Sun, 1 May 2022 13:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 1:19:21 AM UTC-4, N Kostoff wrote:

On 29.4.2022 г. 20:56, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 1:17:00 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:40:14 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Така че неутралитетът всъщност се
оказва най-угоден за управляващите в Москва.

Всъщност още по-полезен щеше да е за България.

Как точно? Като докаже категорично, че България е руски троянски кон в ЕС и НАТО?

Това е тъпо изказване.

Kaто тези, предполагам: https://segabg.com/category-video/troyanskite-magareta-na-putin

А имаше време, когато СЕГА беше русофилско-путинофилско сборище...

Ми сега вече ръблите се обезцениха и почнаха да приемат долари..
Статията е проста антируска пропаганда, нищо съществено ..

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On 2.5.2022 г. 0:08, chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 1 May 2022 13:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 1:19:21 AM UTC-4, N Kostoff wrote:

On 29.4.2022 г. 20:56, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 1:17:00 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:40:14 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Така че неутралитетът всъщност се
оказва най-угоден за управляващите в Москва.

Всъщност още по-полезен щеше да е за България.

Как точно? Като докаже категорично, че България е руски троянски кон в ЕС и НАТО?

Това е тъпо изказване.

Kaто тези, предполагам:
https://segabg.com/category-video/troyanskite-magareta-na-putin

А имаше време, когато СЕГА беше русофилско-путинофилско сборище...

Ми сега вече ръблите се обезцениха и почнаха да приемат долари..
Статията е проста антируска пропаганда, нищо съществено ..

Именно.

--
_____
НК

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On 1.5.2022 г. 23:38, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 1:19:21 AM UTC-4, N Kostoff wrote:

On 29.4.2022 г. 20:56, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 1:17:00 PM UTC-4, chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:40:14 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Така че неутралитетът всъщност се
оказва най-угоден за управляващите в Москва.

Всъщност още по-полезен щеше да е за България.

Как точно? Като докаже категорично, че България е руски троянски кон в ЕС и НАТО?

Това е тъпо изказване.

Kaто тези, предполагам: https://segabg.com/category-video/troyanskite-magareta-na-putin

Да.

А имаше време, когато СЕГА беше русофилско-путинофилско сборище...

--
_____
НК

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)