• There is no problem between Science & Torah about creation

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 12 15:51:15 2023
    I think there is no problem, but maybe you all want there to be a
    problem ? The way the problem seems solved is that "the world" means
    ... the world of farming and animal husbandry (gardening ... remember
    Adam & Eve in a ... garden?). This event is about 6,000 years ago. You
    also see that besides Adam & Eve there are "other humans". Who are they
    ? The ones who do not garden (yet). What is the life of such people ? A
    lot like animals. Everything changes once you stand still on the land,
    and this is how we went from throwing stones to throwing satellites
    into orbit and raining down Nuclear fire of hell. It took 6,000.years,
    and so we can also now see why there is such a defined end to "this
    world". The humans where going to abuse their new found powers, and
    destroy each other and themselves (or worse).

    So many of you seem to think that "the world" has to mean "the
    Universe". However this may not be correct, and it also does not seem
    to line up with how other tribes have thought about their past. For
    example in Central or South America I have heard of indian tribes who
    say they where "born out of a corn stalk". In Scandinavia, the whole
    world was created out of a cow. When you take this serious, it seems
    to both make sense. Also keep in mind: a more limited vocabulary (why
    would they need 5 words to describe something being made or came into
    being, when production was as simple as it was ?), and also how telling
    stories over and over again may have led to misunderstandings and slight changes of emphasis. They may themselves no longer understand their
    own stories. But what do we see: they put their creation as a tribe at
    the point that they start farming or doing animal husbandry and that
    makes a lot of sense, because everything changes. The old ways where
    forgotten and this locked them in (at least, that's what science says,
    and I believe that is probably true).

    This leaves the "6 days of creation", but to God one day is a thousand
    years, and the Sun itself gets created during these days, and so it is
    clear that these are not ordinary days. I find the whole story to be quite close (possibly perfect) for the Creation of the Earth and it's animals.

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