• Webb Telescope Spots 13.5 Billion-Year-Old Galaxy

    From 26C.Z968@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 18 00:00:27 2022
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11440133/NASA-starts-new-chapter-astronomy-image-galaxy-formed-350M-years-big-bang.html

    NASA's James Webb starts a 'new chapter in astronomy' with an
    astounding image of a galaxy that formed only 350 million years
    after the Big Bang - the oldest ever seen by human eyes

    NASA's James Webb snapped an image showing an ‘undiscovered
    country’ of early galaxies, with one forming just 350 million
    years after the big bang that happened 13.8 billion years ago

    . . .

    Looks as if galaxies formed a bit earlier than expected.

    What has not been obtained yet is the spectrographic
    analysis to determine what KIND of stars comprise this
    particular - and very bright - galaxy. There is much
    speculation that it might be "Population-III" stars -
    the first - all hydrogen and helium and no heavy
    elements.

    You'd think the first stars would be called Pop-I :-)

    In any case, this hyper-distant object is heavily
    red-shifted ... likely beyond what Hubble can see.
    And, finding such a structure THAT early suggests
    there may be others even earlier. If found, it
    might bring that supposed 13.8 billion year figure
    for this universe into question.

    Alas even Webb has its limits. What might lie even
    further into the infrared and below ??? The 13.8
    figure was derived from observations - and temporal
    backtracking - but NEW data might upset that math.

    Just for fun, I'm going to propose a very large
    orbital terahertz telescope - synthetic aperture
    tricks or interferometry may be needed to up the
    needed resolution. In principle, because it's
    more "antenna" than "optics", it might be cheaper
    to build than Webb. However it would have to be
    delivered in pieces and assembled in orbit (ask
    Musk to do it, build robot wrench-jockeys too).

    What invisible things would be revealed ???
    13.8, and the data/math behind it, might prove to
    be seriously wrong. I'm gonna throw out a 20-billion
    figure here ... prove me wrong ! :-)

    I'm also going to posit that "black holes" aren't
    really black - just super-dense matter that shifts
    the light emitted WAY red - terahertz, microwave,
    maybe just "Hertz" .......

    Hmm ... if the radius is smaller than the radiation
    wavelength that would be emitted, the 'hole' becomes
    a very inefficient radiator - which would make it
    look even more black. Sub-Hertz telescope anyone ?
    Superconductor strands 100,000+ miles long. Better
    orbit that out past Pluto :-)

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