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  • Miami Condo Collapse Report - Support Pillars Were All ROTTEN

    From 67hx.1803@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 7 18:08:55 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.survival, alt.politics.usa

    https://www.wptv.com/news/state/miami-dade/investigators-say-tenant-garage-below-collapsed-surfside-condo-tower-had-many-faulty-support-columns

    Federal investigators determining why a South Florida condominium
    tower partially collapsed three years ago, killing 98 people,
    said Thursday there were many faulty support columns in the
    tenant garage that ran below it and the adjoining pool deck.

    National Institute of Standards and Technology investigators
    told an advisory panel that tests show that some of the steel-
    reinforced concrete columns at Champlain Towers South were half
    the strength they should have been and were not up to construction
    standards in 1980 when the 12-story tower was built. The steel
    in some had become moderately to extremely corroded, weakening
    them further.

    . . .

    So ... they were crap when they were put IN - yet
    mysteriously passed all inspections - and after
    the salt air got to work they were WORSE than crap
    yet STILL managed to pass inspections.

    Ya know ... somebody needs to stick an extra-large
    microscope up the "inspection" trades ASS.

    I do remember seeing some photos taken by the tenants
    of columns where the concrete was all spalled off and
    lethally-rusting steel exposed. Management just had
    someone plaster-over that ... all fixed.

    Now esp in the 70s/80s the mantra was "Build 'em
    QUICK and CHEAP". Local pols were completely down
    with that because lots of big beach condos meant
    prestige and TAX REVENUES. The east coast from
    about SC down and around Florida slammed up these
    crackerboxes en-masse. The structural design - and
    sources for the components and often contractors -
    were pretty much the same. Draw your own conclusions.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 04:29:59 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.survival, alt.politics.usa

    67hx.1803 wrote on 3/7/2024 6:08 PM:
    https://www.wptv.com/news/state/miami-dade/investigators-say-tenant-garage-below-collapsed-surfside-condo-tower-had-many-faulty-support-columns


    Federal investigators determining why a South Florida condominium
    tower partially collapsed three years ago, killing 98 people,
    said Thursday there were many faulty support columns in the
    tenant garage that ran below it and the adjoining pool deck.

    National Institute of Standards and Technology investigators
    told an advisory panel that tests show that some of the steel-
    reinforced concrete columns at Champlain Towers South were half
    the strength they should have been and were not up to construction
    standards in 1980 when the 12-story tower was built. The steel
    in some had become moderately to extremely corroded, weakening
    them further.

    . . .

      So ... they were crap when they were put IN - yet
      mysteriously passed all inspections - and after
      the salt air got to work they were WORSE than crap
      yet STILL managed to pass inspections.

      Ya know ... somebody needs to stick an extra-large
      microscope up the "inspection" trades ASS.

      I do remember seeing some photos taken by the tenants
      of columns where the concrete was all spalled off and
      lethally-rusting steel exposed. Management just had
      someone plaster-over that ... all fixed.

      Now esp in the 70s/80s the mantra was "Build 'em
      QUICK and CHEAP". Local pols were completely down
      with that because lots of big beach condos meant
      prestige and TAX REVENUES. The east coast from
      about SC down and around Florida slammed up these
      crackerboxes en-masse. The structural design - and
      sources for the components and often contractors -
      were pretty much the same. Draw your own conclusions.


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