https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12922109/Worlds-biggest-cruise-ship-prepares-service-1-198-foot-long-20-DECK-Icon-Seas-55ft-waterfall-rooms-7-600-guests-arrives-Puerto-Rico-trials.html
. . .
Ya know ... these ships are just UGLY. Look like
somebody plopped a hotel on a float.
And, geez, 7600 ... that's more than the pop of
most smallish US towns. This will be super-busy,
super-packed, super-confused ... may as well
just stay home and PRETEND you're on a cruise.
I've always wondered what happens these days if
one of these ships sinks or catches fire. There
were big losses back in the day - but now the
ships carry almost ten times more. I don't think
you can get enough rescue to the site fast enough.
Idiocy can sink big ships - but these days there
are *terrorists* and national-level entities that
want to seed chaos.
And finally ... between JoeFlation and such ...
a decreasing number will have the MONEY to book
such cruises. They may have build something
nobody can afford ......
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12922109/Worlds-biggest-cruise-ship-prepares-service-1-198-foot-long-20-DECK-Icon-Seas-55ft-waterfall-rooms-7-600-guests-arrives-Puerto-Rico-trials.html
. . .
Ya know ... these ships are just UGLY. Look like
somebody plopped a hotel on a float.
And, geez, 7600 ... that's more than the pop of
most smallish US towns. This will be super-busy,
super-packed, super-confused ... may as well
just stay home and PRETEND you're on a cruise.
I've always wondered what happens these days if
one of these ships sinks or catches fire. There
were big losses back in the day - but now the
ships carry almost ten times more. I don't think
you can get enough rescue to the site fast enough.
Idiocy can sink big ships - but these days there
are *terrorists* and national-level entities that
want to seed chaos.
And finally ... between JoeFlation and such ...
a decreasing number will have the MONEY to book
such cruises. They may have build something
nobody can afford ......
Le 2024-01-04 à 01:19, 56g.1183 a écrit :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12922109/Worlds-biggest-cruise-ship-prepares-service-1-198-foot-long-20-DECK-Icon-Seas-55ft-waterfall-rooms-7-600-guests-arrives-Puerto-Rico-trials.html
. . .
Ya know ... these ships are just UGLY. Look like
somebody plopped a hotel on a float.
And, geez, 7600 ... that's more than the pop of
most smallish US towns. This will be super-busy,
super-packed, super-confused ... may as well
just stay home and PRETEND you're on a cruise.
I've always wondered what happens these days if
one of these ships sinks or catches fire. There
were big losses back in the day - but now the
ships carry almost ten times more. I don't think
you can get enough rescue to the site fast enough.
Idiocy can sink big ships - but these days there
are *terrorists* and national-level entities that
want to seed chaos.
And finally ... between JoeFlation and such ...
a decreasing number will have the MONEY to book
such cruises. They may have build something
nobody can afford ......
Well in the meantime from what I have read, big cruise ships have their
sails full of wind so to speak. Considering many said during Covid
chapter one that that line of business was now dead and no more cruise
ships would be built, this is even more surprising.
On 1/4/24 1:23 PM, Chasseur wrote:
Le 2024-01-04 à 01:19, 56g.1183 a écrit :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12922109/Worlds-biggest-cruise-ship-prepares-service-1-198-foot-long-20-DECK-Icon-Seas-55ft-waterfall-rooms-7-600-guests-arrives-Puerto-Rico-trials.html
. . .
Ya know ... these ships are just UGLY. Look like
somebody plopped a hotel on a float.
And, geez, 7600 ... that's more than the pop of
most smallish US towns. This will be super-busy,
super-packed, super-confused ... may as well
just stay home and PRETEND you're on a cruise.
I've always wondered what happens these days if
one of these ships sinks or catches fire. There
were big losses back in the day - but now the
ships carry almost ten times more. I don't think
you can get enough rescue to the site fast enough.
Idiocy can sink big ships - but these days there
are *terrorists* and national-level entities that
want to seed chaos.
And finally ... between JoeFlation and such ...
a decreasing number will have the MONEY to book
such cruises. They may have build something
nobody can afford ......
Well in the meantime from what I have read, big cruise ships have
their sails full of wind so to speak. Considering many said during
Covid chapter one that that line of business was now dead and no more
cruise ships would be built, this is even more surprising.
I think some people are "making up for" Covid - doing
what they were so long denied, no matter the cost.
But can that LAST ???
Don't think so.
The 'deprived' will take their one big make-up cruise
and then check their bank accounts ... it'll be a long
time before the next .......
On 1/4/24 1:23 PM, Chasseur wrote:
Le 2024-01-04 à 01:19, 56g.1183 a écrit :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12922109/Worlds-biggest-cruise-ship-prepares-service-1-198-foot-long-20-DECK-Icon-Seas-55ft-waterfall-rooms-7-600-guests-arrives-Puerto-Rico-trials.html
. . .
Ya know ... these ships are just UGLY. Look like
somebody plopped a hotel on a float.
And, geez, 7600 ... that's more than the pop of
most smallish US towns. This will be super-busy,
super-packed, super-confused ... may as well
just stay home and PRETEND you're on a cruise.
I've always wondered what happens these days if
one of these ships sinks or catches fire. There
were big losses back in the day - but now the
ships carry almost ten times more. I don't think
you can get enough rescue to the site fast enough.
Idiocy can sink big ships - but these days there
are *terrorists* and national-level entities that
want to seed chaos.
And finally ... between JoeFlation and such ...
a decreasing number will have the MONEY to book
such cruises. They may have build something
nobody can afford ......
Well in the meantime from what I have read, big cruise ships have
their sails full of wind so to speak. Considering many said during
Covid chapter one that that line of business was now dead and no more
cruise ships would be built, this is even more surprising.
I think some people are "making up for" Covid - doing
what they were so long denied, no matter the cost.
But can that LAST ???
Don't think so.
The 'deprived' will take their one big make-up cruise
and then check their bank accounts ... it'll be a long
time before the next .......
People "in the know" will book passage on mid-sized freighters with
cabins near the captain's cabin and will dine with the captain for
meals. It can be a far more interesting voyage than on a crowded
"luxury" liner with much more diverse destinations than where the
typical cruise ships go.
Le 2024-01-04 à 21:55, 56g.1183 a écrit :
On 1/4/24 1:23 PM, Chasseur wrote:Quite right. Let's face it, the old ruggedness values are fading in
Le 2024-01-04 à 01:19, 56g.1183 a écrit :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12922109/Worlds-biggest-cruise-ship-prepares-service-1-198-foot-long-20-DECK-Icon-Seas-55ft-waterfall-rooms-7-600-guests-arrives-Puerto-Rico-trials.html
. . .
Ya know ... these ships are just UGLY. Look like
somebody plopped a hotel on a float.
And, geez, 7600 ... that's more than the pop of
most smallish US towns. This will be super-busy,
super-packed, super-confused ... may as well
just stay home and PRETEND you're on a cruise.
I've always wondered what happens these days if
one of these ships sinks or catches fire. There
were big losses back in the day - but now the
ships carry almost ten times more. I don't think
you can get enough rescue to the site fast enough.
Idiocy can sink big ships - but these days there
are *terrorists* and national-level entities that
want to seed chaos.
And finally ... between JoeFlation and such ...
a decreasing number will have the MONEY to book
such cruises. They may have build something
nobody can afford ......
Well in the meantime from what I have read, big cruise ships have
their sails full of wind so to speak. Considering many said during
Covid chapter one that that line of business was now dead and no more
cruise ships would be built, this is even more surprising.
I think some people are "making up for" Covid - doing
what they were so long denied, no matter the cost.
first world countries. The preparedness and the bite the bullet values
are being replaced by a sense that leisure fun and games are absolute
rights. Add to that the aging of the population who as a lot, are
acutely aware that there are fewer good years ahead than there are
behind and the return of the floating palaces becomes not so much of a surprise.
But can that LAST ???
A very good question......
Don't think so.
A logical conclusion....
The 'deprived' will take their one big make-up cruise
and then check their bank accounts ... it'll be a long
time before the next .......
One can easily extrapolate from the present evident signes and the not
so evident signs also, that big changes are coming.....
Keep your powder dry....
On 1/5/24 9:05 AM, Chasseur wrote:
Le 2024-01-04 à 21:55, 56g.1183 a écrit :
On 1/4/24 1:23 PM, Chasseur wrote:Quite right. Let's face it, the old ruggedness values are fading in
Le 2024-01-04 à 01:19, 56g.1183 a écrit :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12922109/Worlds-biggest-cruise-ship-prepares-service-1-198-foot-long-20-DECK-Icon-Seas-55ft-waterfall-rooms-7-600-guests-arrives-Puerto-Rico-trials.html
. . .
Ya know ... these ships are just UGLY. Look like
somebody plopped a hotel on a float.
And, geez, 7600 ... that's more than the pop of
most smallish US towns. This will be super-busy,
super-packed, super-confused ... may as well
just stay home and PRETEND you're on a cruise.
I've always wondered what happens these days if
one of these ships sinks or catches fire. There
were big losses back in the day - but now the
ships carry almost ten times more. I don't think
you can get enough rescue to the site fast enough.
Idiocy can sink big ships - but these days there
are *terrorists* and national-level entities that
want to seed chaos.
And finally ... between JoeFlation and such ...
a decreasing number will have the MONEY to book
such cruises. They may have build something
nobody can afford ......
Well in the meantime from what I have read, big cruise ships have
their sails full of wind so to speak. Considering many said during
Covid chapter one that that line of business was now dead and no
more cruise ships would be built, this is even more surprising.
I think some people are "making up for" Covid - doing
what they were so long denied, no matter the cost.
first world countries. The preparedness and the bite the bullet values
are being replaced by a sense that leisure fun and games are absolute
rights. Add to that the aging of the population who as a lot, are
acutely aware that there are fewer good years ahead than there are
behind and the return of the floating palaces becomes not so much of a
surprise.
Well, in the Declaration, Jeff substituted "happiness" for
Locke's original "property".
So, "Party-On Dude !" ? :-)
But can that LAST ???
A very good question......
Don't think so.
A logical conclusion....
The 'deprived' will take their one big make-up cruise
and then check their bank accounts ... it'll be a long
time before the next .......
One can easily extrapolate from the present evident signes and the not
so evident signs also, that big changes are coming.....
Keep your powder dry....
You can't shoot your way out of this mess. Actual
intelligence and statesmanship will be required.
Ergo, we're doomed :-)
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 09:29:16 -0700, Lucas McCain wrote:
People "in the know" will book passage on mid-sized freighters with
cabins near the captain's cabin and will dine with the captain for
meals. It can be a far more interesting voyage than on a crowded
"luxury" liner with much more diverse destinations than where the
typical cruise ships go.
I had done some research and while it's possible it isn't easy. One
problem with modern container ships is the turnaround time in port is
quite short so you would see a lot of exotic container ports and not much else.
Le 2024-01-05 à 16:17, 56g.1183 a écrit :
On 1/5/24 9:05 AM, Chasseur wrote:
Le 2024-01-04 à 21:55, 56g.1183 a écrit :
On 1/4/24 1:23 PM, Chasseur wrote:Quite right. Let's face it, the old ruggedness values are fading in
Le 2024-01-04 à 01:19, 56g.1183 a écrit :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12922109/Worlds-biggest-cruise-ship-prepares-service-1-198-foot-long-20-DECK-Icon-Seas-55ft-waterfall-rooms-7-600-guests-arrives-Puerto-Rico-trials.html
. . .
Ya know ... these ships are just UGLY. Look like
somebody plopped a hotel on a float.
And, geez, 7600 ... that's more than the pop of
most smallish US towns. This will be super-busy,
super-packed, super-confused ... may as well
just stay home and PRETEND you're on a cruise.
I've always wondered what happens these days if
one of these ships sinks or catches fire. There
were big losses back in the day - but now the
ships carry almost ten times more. I don't think
you can get enough rescue to the site fast enough.
Idiocy can sink big ships - but these days there
are *terrorists* and national-level entities that
want to seed chaos.
And finally ... between JoeFlation and such ...
a decreasing number will have the MONEY to book
such cruises. They may have build something
nobody can afford ......
Well in the meantime from what I have read, big cruise ships have
their sails full of wind so to speak. Considering many said during
Covid chapter one that that line of business was now dead and no
more cruise ships would be built, this is even more surprising.
I think some people are "making up for" Covid - doing
what they were so long denied, no matter the cost.
first world countries. The preparedness and the bite the bullet
values are being replaced by a sense that leisure fun and games are
absolute rights. Add to that the aging of the population who as a
lot, are acutely aware that there are fewer good years ahead than
there are behind and the return of the floating palaces becomes not
so much of a surprise.
Well, in the Declaration, Jeff substituted "happiness" for
Locke's original "property".
So, "Party-On Dude !" ? :-)
But can that LAST ???
A very good question......
Don't think so.
A logical conclusion....
The 'deprived' will take their one big make-up cruise
and then check their bank accounts ... it'll be a long
time before the next .......
One can easily extrapolate from the present evident signes and the
not so evident signs also, that big changes are coming.....
Keep your powder dry....
You can't shoot your way out of this mess. Actual
intelligence and statesmanship will be required.
Ergo, we're doomed :-)
Just for the sake of clarity, I used a metaphore here (keep your powder
dry) and what I meant was «Be prepared». The survivalist/prepper in me
is never very far...
As for being doomed I guess time will tell. At least knowing of the
nature of the «problem» and its proximity, may open to the possibility
of surviving it. Caveat emptor.
Alternatively, you could depart that vessel and schedule a different on
to continue your journey. I had a girlfriend in Boulder in the '70s who would find work on cargo ships as a cook and get free passage to Maui
from San Francisco and earn some money on the way, paid in cash and not taxed. She specialized in vegetarian meal preperation but could be versatile.
Oh yea, there are no natural geographical lines for an "Us" and
"Them" - "the enemy" probably lives next door.
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:41:35 -0500, 56g.1183 wrote:
Oh yea, there are no natural geographical lines for an "Us" and
"Them" - "the enemy" probably lives next door.
Nothing new there...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_Kansas
It would be amusing to see Lindsey Graham beating on Chuck Schumer. Or vice-versa, I don't care.
If "Us" and "Them" have a territory to stand in then there will be
allies and resources. However when it's all mixed up ....
Or would you count being The Lord Of 57th And Vine to be a "victory"
.......... ?
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:13:59 -0500, 56g.1183 wrote:
If "Us" and "Them" have a territory to stand in then there will be
allies and resources. However when it's all mixed up ....
Or would you count being The Lord Of 57th And Vine to be a "victory"
.......... ?
We're starting the see the uses and thems self-segregating. Malka Older
has a trilogy where there are 'centenals', geographic areas of 100,000 people. Two adjacent centenals may have completely different systems of government and cultures. If you can't get along where you are you find one more to your liking. There is sort of a world government that limits aggression between centenals. Too bad it's science fiction.
I do not see the current status quo being stable. Enter Caesar stage right
to be followed by Octavian.
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:47:46 -0700, Lucas McCain wrote:
Alternatively, you could depart that vessel and schedule a different onThe '70s were the beginning of the end. My brother-in-law graduated from
to continue your journey. I had a girlfriend in Boulder in the '70s who
would find work on cargo ships as a cook and get free passage to Maui
from San Francisco and earn some money on the way, paid in cash and not
taxed. She specialized in vegetarian meal preperation but could be
versatile. >
the Merchant Marine Academy in '68. The first few years were pretty good. Toward the end he could only work six months a year since the Masters
Mates & Pilots union was trying to spread the work out. He had the rating
but never sailed as a captain since you had to wait for somebody to die to move up. I'd considered the idea in high school in the engineering section rather than deck but fortunately took a different path.
Sailing on a Liberian flagged vessel with a Somali crew could be
entertaining if it didn't turn into 'The Mutiny of the Elsinore'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mutiny_of_the_Elsinore_(novel)
That's not one of London's more popular books. London is claimed by the socialists very gingerly. He definitely wasn't in the DEI camp and didn't have much good to say about the motley crew of the Elsinore.
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