• Effort to ban nuclear weapons to be accelerated

    From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 1 12:12:57 2023
    The effect of "Oppenheimer" should be to promote a total ban of nuclear weapons world wide AND ALSO to understand that the United States Government has been the primary agent preventing th ban of nuclear weapons since the 1940's.
    NATO acted as a nuclear shield against Stalin at the time of creation. Putin is not Stalin, but US Government behaves as if all Russian Premieres act the same as Stalin would. It is how communists behave, we are told.
    In 1961 as I attended Sunday School on Homestead Air Force Base, I noticed the difference between what Jesus taught and what I learned in school and the base as to the "goodness" of the duty of our fathers as they maintained a nuclear bomber fleet of B-
    52's. Yes, we knew the function of the bomb even at that tender age, but we were taught that their presence contained the evils of communism and also the domino theory. Certainly all this conflicted somewhat concerning my childish understanding of the
    teachings of Jesus. However, to this day the lesson from the teaching remains the same. Yes, a child can understand Jesus quite well. It is a shame that most adults aren't smart enough to think the same way.
    So, if one invents a weapon of mass destruction, and then repents, should we not listen?
    In this world, you work for the devil and he owns what you do and then he will cast you out when you are no longer any use.
    Scientists develop the technology so as to allow the richest powers to weaponize the discoveries, and this is the Faustian reality.
    In this way the discoveries concerning the natural sciences are kept secret from the public keeping them afraid of nuclear science, while the governments attempt to allow only a privileged few access to certain fields of mathematical physics. Oppenheimer
    would insist that other scientists can independently understand how energetic collisions work too. Modern computing technology only expands related ability.
    So US would have humanity persist in this devilish rat race of one-upmanship, while I envision Christ to prefer the world to socially cooperate in perhaps a socialist ashion.
    Imagine the conflict in my childish brain as I seem to think Jesus to be somewhat of a socialist and to be against the greed related to private property. Yes, I guess as a child I didn't understand.

    Yet now, I do understand that the US has a policy of desiring the ownership of nuclear weapons, and the best ones at that, while we think those who live by the gun , die by the gun.

    GOD does not charge HIS prophets to sing praises to the king nor emperor when it is necessary to speak a word out

    I think again. Who, or what power, is the sole and primary reason why there is not a world wide ban on nuclear weapons and the evidence points to the nation with the most nuclear weapons

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  • From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to Lazarus Cain on Tue Aug 1 12:31:06 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:13:00 PM UTC-5, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    The effect of "Oppenheimer" should be to promote a total ban of nuclear weapons world wide AND ALSO to understand that the United States Government has been the primary agent preventing th ban of nuclear weapons since the 1940's.
    NATO acted as a nuclear shield against Stalin at the time of creation. Putin is not Stalin, but US Government behaves as if all Russian Premieres act the same as Stalin would. It is how communists behave, we are told.
    In 1961 as I attended Sunday School on Homestead Air Force Base, I noticed the difference between what Jesus taught and what I learned in school and the base as to the "goodness" of the duty of our fathers as they maintained a nuclear bomber fleet of B-
    52's. Yes, we knew the function of the bomb even at that tender age, but we were taught that their presence contained the evils of communism and also the domino theory. Certainly all this conflicted somewhat concerning my childish understanding of the
    teachings of Jesus. However, to this day the lesson from the teaching remains the same. Yes, a child can understand Jesus quite well. It is a shame that most adults aren't smart enough to think the same way.
    So, if one invents a weapon of mass destruction, and then repents, should we not listen?
    In this world, you work for the devil and he owns what you do and then he will cast you out when you are no longer any use.
    Scientists develop the technology so as to allow the richest powers to weaponize the discoveries, and this is the Faustian reality.
    In this way the discoveries concerning the natural sciences are kept secret from the public keeping them afraid of nuclear science, while the governments attempt to allow only a privileged few access to certain fields of mathematical physics.
    Oppenheimer would insist that other scientists can independently understand how energetic collisions work too. Modern computing technology only expands related ability.
    So US would have humanity persist in this devilish rat race of one-upmanship, while I envision Christ to prefer the world to socially cooperate in perhaps a socialist ashion.
    Imagine the conflict in my childish brain as I seem to think Jesus to be somewhat of a socialist and to be against the greed related to private property. Yes, I guess as a child I didn't understand.

    Yet now, I do understand that the US has a policy of desiring the ownership of nuclear weapons, and the best ones at that, while we think those who live by the gun , die by the gun.

    GOD does not charge HIS prophets to sing praises to the king nor emperor when it is necessary to speak a word out

    I think again. Who, or what power, is the sole and primary reason why there is not a world wide ban on nuclear weapons and the evidence points to the nation with the most nuclear weapons
    This is the devil's line of bullshit. Has been the same line for 75 years:
    43. The fundamental purpose of NATO’s nuclear capability is to preserve peace, prevent coercion and deter aggression. Nuclear weapons are unique. As long as nuclear weapons exist, NATO will remain a nuclear alliance. NATO’s goal is a safer
    world for all; we seek to create the security environment for a world without nuclear weapons. The circumstances in which NATO might have to use nuclear weapons are extremely remote. Any employment of nuclear weapons against NATO would fundamentally
    alter the nature of a conflict. The Alliance has the capabilities and resolve to impose costs on an adversary that would be unacceptable and far outweigh the benefits that any adversary could hope to achieve.

    44. The strategic nuclear forces of the Alliance, particularly those of the United States, are the supreme guarantee of the security of the Alliance

    It is an assertion that US is quite willing to use nuclear weapons again, and apparently the US voter is OK with this? even now?

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  • From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to Lazarus Cain on Tue Aug 1 12:32:55 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:31:08 PM UTC-5, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:13:00 PM UTC-5, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    The effect of "Oppenheimer" should be to promote a total ban of nuclear weapons world wide AND ALSO to understand that the United States Government has been the primary agent preventing th ban of nuclear weapons since the 1940's.
    NATO acted as a nuclear shield against Stalin at the time of creation. Putin is not Stalin, but US Government behaves as if all Russian Premieres act the same as Stalin would. It is how communists behave, we are told.
    In 1961 as I attended Sunday School on Homestead Air Force Base, I noticed the difference between what Jesus taught and what I learned in school and the base as to the "goodness" of the duty of our fathers as they maintained a nuclear bomber fleet of
    B-52's. Yes, we knew the function of the bomb even at that tender age, but we were taught that their presence contained the evils of communism and also the domino theory. Certainly all this conflicted somewhat concerning my childish understanding of the
    teachings of Jesus. However, to this day the lesson from the teaching remains the same. Yes, a child can understand Jesus quite well. It is a shame that most adults aren't smart enough to think the same way.
    So, if one invents a weapon of mass destruction, and then repents, should we not listen?
    In this world, you work for the devil and he owns what you do and then he will cast you out when you are no longer any use.
    Scientists develop the technology so as to allow the richest powers to weaponize the discoveries, and this is the Faustian reality.
    In this way the discoveries concerning the natural sciences are kept secret from the public keeping them afraid of nuclear science, while the governments attempt to allow only a privileged few access to certain fields of mathematical physics.
    Oppenheimer would insist that other scientists can independently understand how energetic collisions work too. Modern computing technology only expands related ability.
    So US would have humanity persist in this devilish rat race of one-upmanship, while I envision Christ to prefer the world to socially cooperate in perhaps a socialist ashion.
    Imagine the conflict in my childish brain as I seem to think Jesus to be somewhat of a socialist and to be against the greed related to private property. Yes, I guess as a child I didn't understand.

    Yet now, I do understand that the US has a policy of desiring the ownership of nuclear weapons, and the best ones at that, while we think those who live by the gun , die by the gun.

    GOD does not charge HIS prophets to sing praises to the king nor emperor when it is necessary to speak a word out

    I think again. Who, or what power, is the sole and primary reason why there is not a world wide ban on nuclear weapons and the evidence points to the nation with the most nuclear weapons
    This is the devil's line of bullshit. Has been the same line for 75 years: 43. The fundamental purpose of NATO’s nuclear capability is to preserve peace, prevent coercion and deter aggression. Nuclear weapons are unique. As long as nuclear weapons exist, NATO will remain a nuclear alliance. NATO’s goal is a safer world
    for all; we seek to create the security environment for a world without nuclear weapons. The circumstances in which NATO might have to use nuclear weapons are extremely remote. Any employment of nuclear weapons against NATO would fundamentally alter the
    nature of a conflict. The Alliance has the capabilities and resolve to impose costs on an adversary that would be unacceptable and far outweigh the benefits that any adversary could hope to achieve.

    44. The strategic nuclear forces of the Alliance, particularly those of the United States, are the supreme guarantee of the security of the Alliance

    It is an assertion that US is quite willing to use nuclear weapons again, and apparently the US voter is OK with this? even now?
    If nuclear weapons are banned, NATO will dissolve
    FUCK NATO!

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  • From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to Lazarus Cain on Tue Aug 1 12:40:07 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:32:58 PM UTC-5, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:31:08 PM UTC-5, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:13:00 PM UTC-5, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    The effect of "Oppenheimer" should be to promote a total ban of nuclear weapons world wide AND ALSO to understand that the United States Government has been the primary agent preventing th ban of nuclear weapons since the 1940's.
    NATO acted as a nuclear shield against Stalin at the time of creation. Putin is not Stalin, but US Government behaves as if all Russian Premieres act the same as Stalin would. It is how communists behave, we are told.
    In 1961 as I attended Sunday School on Homestead Air Force Base, I noticed the difference between what Jesus taught and what I learned in school and the base as to the "goodness" of the duty of our fathers as they maintained a nuclear bomber fleet
    of B-52's. Yes, we knew the function of the bomb even at that tender age, but we were taught that their presence contained the evils of communism and also the domino theory. Certainly all this conflicted somewhat concerning my childish understanding of
    the teachings of Jesus. However, to this day the lesson from the teaching remains the same. Yes, a child can understand Jesus quite well. It is a shame that most adults aren't smart enough to think the same way.
    So, if one invents a weapon of mass destruction, and then repents, should we not listen?
    In this world, you work for the devil and he owns what you do and then he will cast you out when you are no longer any use.
    Scientists develop the technology so as to allow the richest powers to weaponize the discoveries, and this is the Faustian reality.
    In this way the discoveries concerning the natural sciences are kept secret from the public keeping them afraid of nuclear science, while the governments attempt to allow only a privileged few access to certain fields of mathematical physics.
    Oppenheimer would insist that other scientists can independently understand how energetic collisions work too. Modern computing technology only expands related ability.
    So US would have humanity persist in this devilish rat race of one-upmanship, while I envision Christ to prefer the world to socially cooperate in perhaps a socialist ashion.
    Imagine the conflict in my childish brain as I seem to think Jesus to be somewhat of a socialist and to be against the greed related to private property. Yes, I guess as a child I didn't understand.

    Yet now, I do understand that the US has a policy of desiring the ownership of nuclear weapons, and the best ones at that, while we think those who live by the gun , die by the gun.

    GOD does not charge HIS prophets to sing praises to the king nor emperor when it is necessary to speak a word out

    I think again. Who, or what power, is the sole and primary reason why there is not a world wide ban on nuclear weapons and the evidence points to the nation with the most nuclear weapons
    This is the devil's line of bullshit. Has been the same line for 75 years: 43. The fundamental purpose of NATO’s nuclear capability is to preserve peace, prevent coercion and deter aggression. Nuclear weapons are unique. As long as nuclear weapons exist, NATO will remain a nuclear alliance. NATO’s goal is a safer world
    for all; we seek to create the security environment for a world without nuclear weapons. The circumstances in which NATO might have to use nuclear weapons are extremely remote. Any employment of nuclear weapons against NATO would fundamentally alter the
    nature of a conflict. The Alliance has the capabilities and resolve to impose costs on an adversary that would be unacceptable and far outweigh the benefits that any adversary could hope to achieve.

    44. The strategic nuclear forces of the Alliance, particularly those of the United States, are the supreme guarantee of the security of the Alliance

    It is an assertion that US is quite willing to use nuclear weapons again, and apparently the US voter is OK with this? even now?
    If nuclear weapons are banned, NATO will dissolve
    FUCK NATO!
    Ukraine can have Crimea if US agrees to ban legal existence of nuclear weapons, and/or not to base nuclear weapons in Europe
    Don't hold your breath!
    It would be like the US making private ownership of automatic weapons illegal.

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