https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/04/14/prison-ships-stop-crimi nals-avoiding-sentences-buckland/
Ministers should consider bringing back prison ships to
prevent criminals from avoiding jail sentences, a former
justice secretary has said.
Sir Robert Buckland said “imaginative” ways of dealing with
the prison overcrowding crisis should include HMP ships,
former military bases and “virtual” jails, with convicted
offenders kept in the community under effective “house
arrest” through tagging and GPS technology.
His comments came as it emerged that drug dealers, violent
offenders, thieves and dangerous drivers have been spared
jail because judges have ruled that prisons are too full
to take them.
. . .
Sounds kinda familiar to the US audience too ...
Half the prob is prosecutors that won't prosecute but
the other half is that much of our prison space is
full-up. No room for all those little thugs (and gotta
save space for political prisoners !) Oh, and now
prisons are supposed to be like living at a holiday
resort .....
The UK is kinda small - but it DOES have lots of boats,
it DOES have disused military bases, it DOES have lots
of little islands.
The USA is large, lots and lots of empty space. We CAN
throw up makeshift prisons. They would not be holiday
resorts though. GEarth northwestern Nevada sometime -
basically NOTHING there - some places not even roads.
Not entirely sure what to do with all the thugs. They
will still be thugs when they get out of jail. Can't
exactly toss them into a volcano, so WHAT ? We need
them gone semi-permanently, but the age of just dumping
them in some other country has long since ended. No
more Australia's.
On 15 Apr 2023, "26B.X929" <26BX929@zoq22u.net> posted some news:8tecncJaFtgJhKb5nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/04/14/prison-ships-stop-crimi
nals-avoiding-sentences-buckland/
Ministers should consider bringing back prison ships to
prevent criminals from avoiding jail sentences, a former
justice secretary has said.
Sir Robert Buckland said “imaginative†ways of dealing with
the prison overcrowding crisis should include HMP ships,
former military bases and “virtual†jails, with convicted
offenders kept in the community under effective “house
arrest†through tagging and GPS technology.
His comments came as it emerged that drug dealers, violent
offenders, thieves and dangerous drivers have been spared
jail because judges have ruled that prisons are too full
to take them.
. . .
Sounds kinda familiar to the US audience too ...
On 15 Apr 2023, "26B.X929" <26BX929@zoq22u.net> posted some >news:8tecncJaFtgJhKb5nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/04/14/prison-ships-stop-crimi
nals-avoiding-sentences-buckland/
Ministers should consider bringing back prison ships to
prevent criminals from avoiding jail sentences, a former
justice secretary has said.
Sir Robert Buckland said “imaginative? ways of dealing with
the prison overcrowding crisis should include HMP ships,
former military bases and “virtual? jails, with convicted
offenders kept in the community under effective “house
arrest? through tagging and GPS technology.
His comments came as it emerged that drug dealers, violent
offenders, thieves and dangerous drivers have been spared
jail because judges have ruled that prisons are too full
to take them.
. . .
Sounds kinda familiar to the US audience too ...
Half the prob is prosecutors that won't prosecute but
the other half is that much of our prison space is
full-up. No room for all those little thugs (and gotta
save space for political prisoners !) Oh, and now
prisons are supposed to be like living at a holiday
resort .....
The UK is kinda small - but it DOES have lots of boats,
it DOES have disused military bases, it DOES have lots
of little islands.
The USA is large, lots and lots of empty space. We CAN
throw up makeshift prisons. They would not be holiday
resorts though. GEarth northwestern Nevada sometime -
basically NOTHING there - some places not even roads.
Not entirely sure what to do with all the thugs. They
will still be thugs when they get out of jail. Can't
exactly toss them into a volcano, so WHAT ? We need
them gone semi-permanently, but the age of just dumping
them in some other country has long since ended. No
more Australia's.
Create the temporary prisons you've described and place free access
vending machines with confiscated fentanyl in them. Let the problem take >care of itself.
Win win!
On 15 Apr 2023, "26B.X929" <26BX929@zoq22u.net> posted some news:8tecncJaFtgJhKb5nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/04/14/prison-ships-stop-crimi
nals-avoiding-sentences-buckland/
Ministers should consider bringing back prison ships to
prevent criminals from avoiding jail sentences, a former
justice secretary has said.
Sir Robert Buckland said “imaginative” ways of dealing with
the prison overcrowding crisis should include HMP ships,
former military bases and “virtual” jails, with convicted
offenders kept in the community under effective “house
arrest” through tagging and GPS technology.
His comments came as it emerged that drug dealers, violent
offenders, thieves and dangerous drivers have been spared
jail because judges have ruled that prisons are too full
to take them.
. . .
Sounds kinda familiar to the US audience too ...
Half the prob is prosecutors that won't prosecute but
the other half is that much of our prison space is
full-up. No room for all those little thugs (and gotta
save space for political prisoners !) Oh, and now
prisons are supposed to be like living at a holiday
resort .....
The UK is kinda small - but it DOES have lots of boats,
it DOES have disused military bases, it DOES have lots
of little islands.
The USA is large, lots and lots of empty space. We CAN
throw up makeshift prisons. They would not be holiday
resorts though. GEarth northwestern Nevada sometime -
basically NOTHING there - some places not even roads.
Not entirely sure what to do with all the thugs. They
will still be thugs when they get out of jail. Can't
exactly toss them into a volcano, so WHAT ? We need
them gone semi-permanently, but the age of just dumping
them in some other country has long since ended. No
more Australia's.
Create the temporary prisons you've described and place free access
vending machines with confiscated fentanyl in them. Let the problem take care of itself.
Win win!
Marque Garfunkle wrote:
On 15 Apr 2023, "26B.X929" <26BX929@zoq22u.net> posted some
news:8tecncJaFtgJhKb5nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/04/14/prison-ships-stop-crimi
nals-avoiding-sentences-buckland/
Ministers should consider bringing back prison ships to
prevent criminals from avoiding jail sentences, a former
justice secretary has said.
Sir Robert Buckland said “imaginative†ways of dealing with
the prison overcrowding crisis should include HMP ships,
former military bases and “virtual†jails, with convicted
offenders kept in the community under effective “house
arrest†through tagging and GPS technology.
His comments came as it emerged that drug dealers, violent
offenders, thieves and dangerous drivers have been spared
jail because judges have ruled that prisons are too full
to take them.
. . .
Sounds kinda familiar to the US audience too ...
I don't know the UK equivalent to the US Constitution. In the US cruel
and degrading punishment is illegal.
If UK is likewise, prison ships would have to be safe for prisonners.
That increases costs. Do prison ships reduce overall costs?
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